Apple Browser possibilites (with mockup)

[prich]

Hey,

This is my first post! I was wondering what you all think about the possibility of an Apple browser. It seems they've made just about every other internet application (i.e. Sherlock for searching, Quicktime for media, iChat for messaging, etc.). Also, what would it be called? iBrowser? iSurf?

Here's my idea of what it might look like:
http://prich.hypermart.net/applebrowser.jpg

If the picture doesn't show up look here:

(sorry the quaility kinda sucks)

http://prich.hypermart.net/applebrowser.jpg

Prich

[bidge]

Do a search for Apple Browsers here, there are quite a few threads. Nice mock-up though.

[e-coli]

Originally posted by bidge
Do a search for Apple Browsers here, there are quite a few threads. Nice mock-up though.

that wasn't very nice. :p

Nice mockup, man. good effort.

but that is one ugly lookin' jpeg. poor little guy.

[Hemingray]

Welcome to MacRumors! I like your mockup. I'm not sure about the brushed aluminum skin, though. Although it goes with most of the iApps, I think it might interfere a bit too much with some web site designs. Maybe not, it's hard to tell.

I really do hope if Apple puts out its own web browser (iWeb perhaps?) that it will have a powerful engine under the hood and not some watered-down sissy browser like the old AOL 4.0's IE, for example. Whatever browser that is, as long as it's fast and can disable pop-up windows I'll be happy. :)

[rainman::|:|]

Originally posted by Hemingray
I really do hope if Apple puts out its own web browser (iWeb perhaps?) that it will have a powerful engine under the hood and not some watered-down sissy browser like the old AOL 4.0's IE, for example. Whatever browser that is, as long as it's fast and can disable pop-up windows I'll be happy. :)

Hear hear!

Originally posted by Hemingray
Mr. Flibble is very cross. :mad:

my master plan is complete...

:cool:
pnw

[blackpeter]

Originally posted by Hemingray
I'm not sure about the brushed aluminum skin, though. Although it goes with most of the iApps, I think it might interfere a bit too much with some web site designs. Maybe not, it's hard to tell.

I like Cunning's brushed metal interface. Easier on the eyes than the bright pinstripe.

[mac15]

Originally posted by tfaz1


I like Cunning's brushed metal interface. Easier on the eyes than the bright pinstripe.

to bad its so buggy, its fast, but so damn buggy

[funkywhat2]

maybe they will just call it "Browser" like they did with Mail. it would be for both home and pro use, like Mail.

[scem0]

I wouldn't say mail is for 'pro-use' - it has ver limited functionality.

Cunning is cool, but Chimera is better, because it is the same thing with less bugs. I would be happy if apple just basically bought chimera, and named it iBrowse, iSurf, or Browser.

[MrMacMan]

Even thought it is clearly fake, it lacks basic qualities that every browser has.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Even thought it is clearly fake, it lacks basic qualities that every browser has.
Erm...would you care to expand on that?

[samdweck]

I think that an apple broswer is probably something they're working on! I sure hope so, as they have made every single other internet app.!

[G4scott]

heh... yet another contender in the browser wars...

It depends on how fast and simple it is. If it's a nice streamlined browser, I'll use it, but it it lacks certain features, or is just plain slow, you won't find me using it. (but of course, it will be fast, since Apple's making it :cool: )

[samdweck]

Originally posted by G4scott
heh... yet another contender in the browser wars...

It depends on how fast and simple it is. If it's a nice streamlined browser, I'll use it, but it it lacks certain features, or is just plain slow, you won't find me using it. (but of course, it will be fast, since Apple's making it :cool: )

Okay, I would just use it b/c it was made by Apple.. that is how much of a die-hard fan I am. I'm sure however, that if apple made it, it would be truly fantabulous! Go apple! Again, the name...

iBrowse is eyebrows
and everything else is cheesy besides isurf

[SilvorX]

got this of a winblowz forum...maybe a few of u have seen this already...one of the ppl on the site skinned chimera, and this is how he thinks how the new apple internet browser will be...i think lol

[Tommy!]

i think its a really cool design. cept the only thing i want in it is one of those little favorite bar things, i love those. one thing i like about ie is that u can drag them into ims, emails, the dock, the desktop, etc. i dont know if you can do that with other browsers, but prolly.


good job

[benixau]

Please, give us a good web browser. IE is slow, all of the others dont render some MS pages properly and are buggy.

Love the mock ups. You know if jobs sees those then he will either:

buy and become CEO of them or
create something totaly different and easy to use that my mum might use it!!!!!

[marklander]

I was thinking that Chimera and Serlock could be merged into one application. In the browsing mode, a Serlock icon on the toolbar would change the buttons to Serlock Channels. Another icon in Serlock mode would toggle the application back to browsing the web.

[zimv20]

Originally posted by marklander
I was thinking that Chimera and Serlock could be merged into one application. In the browsing mode, a Serlock icon on the toolbar would change the buttons to Serlock Channels. Another icon in Serlock mode would toggle the application back to browsing the web.

i'll sell you 4 h's for a buck.

[Nipsy]

I think looking at the brushed metal mock ups, that brushed metal is too intrusive for a browser.

Then again, I hate all browser chrome save for Mozilla's tabs, and the URL bar...

[wdlove]

Originally posted by SilvorX
got this of a winblowz forum...maybe a few of u have seen this already...one of the ppl on the site skinned chimera, and this is how he thinks how the new apple internet browser will be...i think lol

It would be great for Apple to have its own browser! :)

[DakotaGuy]

I might get flamed, but I think it would be a STUPID idea for Apple to cut ties with Microsoft. The reason I say this, is Apple needs well known MS products on their platform like IE and Office. Maybe someday when they have more market share, but not now as they are trying to gain market share and get people to switch.

The first question people always ask me is will it run MS Office. Look at the switchers website on apple.com. One of the first things they mention is Office v.X. It is a good program and is an industry standard. Also, as most on this message board are well established we don't understand a first timers reaction to the MacOS. I can tell you, many of my PC friends are like, I can use this when they see the familar IE icon. Yes Apple needs to work at getting people to switch, but they should also be working with the Mac division over at MS to help improve IE and Office instead to dumping MS. At this point I think it would be a fatal mistake in marketing.

Microsoft likes having IE on the Mac, well cause you know how they are. I don't think Apple should be working too hard at pissing them off. The switch campaign is good, but if Apple makes a default browser of their own and dumps IE I can say for sure that Office will be dumped by MS as revenge. Then where are we?

[whfsdude]

Chimera is god!!! I think if Apple was smart they would help develop Chimera. What if Apple had help developed Waston, not stealing it or ripping it off. If Apple did this it would send a message towards freeware developers. Apple needs to give a helping hand in getting rid of that evil ie :)

[SilvorX]

Originally posted by Abercrombieboy
I might get flamed, but I think it would be a STUPID idea for Apple to cut ties with Microsoft. The reason I say this, is Apple needs well known MS products on their platform like IE and Office. Maybe someday when they have more market share, but not now as they are trying to gain market share and get people to switch.

if apple included an apple browser with the os, they might as well also include ie, just like including both ie and netscape 4 on os 8x - 9x...since many ppl are fans of ie..

[Natron]

I'd like to see Apple create a browser, if only for my wanting to rid myself of IE. I would also like to be able to connect to newsgroups through .Mac using some sort of iApp. I only wish Apple could create some Gnutella-based download app (ala Limewire) and be able to avoid all the legalities.

I, for one, am tired of the price tag on Microsoft Office. I'm not going to buy a new Mac anytime soon, so the Office deal isn't applicable for me. If Apple wants to have Appleworks compete with Microsoft Office, I am for it, if only to say I use no MS apps. If Apple does that, they need to make darn sure that it is 100% compatible with MS Office, and will really need to push that with the switch campaign. I would really like to see an Apple version of PowerPoint.

-Natron

[mangoduck]

i think cutting off dependencies on ms is a great idea. i say, it's about time.

i despise ie for many reasons, the greatest of which is standard compliance or the lack thereof. for some reason, ms sees nothing wrong with adding their own little tweaks to existing technologies, or changing them just enough to be able to call them their own.a prime example of this is "JScript" used back in ie4, which is an obvious ripoff of "JavaScript". see the resemblance? boy, we sure don't know where you got that idea from. the differences are slight, but significant enough to necessitate writing a second version of nearly all scripting. otherwise ie users will complain about things not working, oblivious to the real reason behind it. i go along with it only because their browser is so widely used, and the alternative limits accessibility. i also see this tactic at work in css to some degree, and it sickens me.

a "call to arms" if you will, for any and all web developers/designers who may read this - stay current on coding standards and use them. validators can be found on the left side of this page (http://www.w3c.org). also, some literature (http://webstandards.org).

chimera would be an excellent choice of browser for apple to adopt. it's completely osx native which makes it speedier than most others, with the possible exception of icab or opera. having branched from the mozilla project, which complies with standards more extensively than any other i've encountered - almost too much in some instances that i won't elaborate on just now, it would surely set apple in the right direction.

as for ms office, i have no use for it. actually, i try to boycott it wherever possible. there have been rumors on mosr about an impending major appleworks update, a large concern of which is supposedly office compatibility. does this not eliminate the need for ms support of the apple platform? if this pulls through, one of the biggest attractions of switchers will still be there, but will no longer involve ms directly or their notoriously shoddy interface design. good riddance.

personally, if i want to distribute any kind of documentation or paperwork via computer, my first choices are rich text and pdf. both widely used and supported, dare i say more so than word documents. and imo pdf is the way to go for anything intended for print on the receiving end for its accuracy and font inclusion. i would like to point out that anything that can be printed using a standard osx print dialog can be saved in this format.

i'll freely admit my bias against ms and their products. but i would hope this makes quite the convincing argument for the ms dependent. thus ends my rant.

[iMac]

In my opinion, I think either we will get an apple browser with 10.3, or they will release it for download at random sometime in mid-2003 to early 2004. What do we call it? iBrowse? Eyebrowse?

[scem0]

Possible names:
iBrowse
iSurf
iWeb
iBrow (hehe, that was a joke by the way)
Browser (going along with the whole 'mail' thing)
Navigator (or a synonym of browser, would go along with 'mail')
iNet
Mac OS X browser (if apple goes for a generic titling scheme)

I think iSurf would be the best. Either iSurf or Mac OS X browser.
I think a browser from apple would be really cool.

Many people are arguing whetherit should be brushed metal or
regular, or something strange/different. I think it should have
skin support. And although apple has never really gotten into
the whole skins thing, I think an apple browser would be a good
place to start.

[benixau]

We ............ need ............ MS

There happy, said it. </tears>

IE and Office make the mac feel more, recognisable, to the computer users of the world.

Mac people are not users. we enjoy our computers.

[Unicron]

Apple own's interface guidelines means the browser will not be in metal.

Metal look is only to be used to virtual devices that represent real world objects. Like the calulator, iSync, Calendar, etc.

Since there is no real-world equivalent to a browser, I'm totally certain it'll use the traditional non-metal, Aqua look.

[backdraft]

How about naming it "Nexus Browser" Nexus essentially means the center, and that pretty much describes the net today. "Apple Nexus Browser" has a nice ring to it. Oh, and the browser Must support tabs (suprised M$ still hasn't ripped this off and put it in IE)

Apple PDA: iNote
Next iApp: iVideo or iCapture or something... (organizes current videos on your Hard Drive, records mp4 videos like tivo, allows playback, syncs with your iPod so ypu can watch music videos on it (color lcd required on iPod)

Just some random thoughts.

- backdraft

[smegdude]

i hope that apple release their own browser, ie sucks. They recently signed up the chimera creator, this is a good indication of where apple wants to go.
M$ won't pull office from apple, it has a team in M$ working on apple products so they aren't just gonna sack everyone because the browser isnt used anymore. Maybe if apple bundled both then everyone would be happy, people who want to use M$ can use ie, and the people who want to browse quickly and with a good browser can use the apple browser.

[Somebody]

Apple own's interface guidelines means the browser will not be in metal.

Metal look is only to be used to virtual devices that represent real world objects. Like the calulator, iSync, Calendar, etc.


What real-world object does iChat represent?

Thank god for Unsanity's (De)Metallifizer. I hate the brushed metal look. I just wish the haxie worked for Carbon stuff like iTunes.

[springscansing]

Originally posted by scem0
Possible names:
iBrowse


iBrowse? eyebrows?

scem0, you're an idiot.

[vniow]

Originally posted by springscansing


iBrowse? eyebrows?

scem0, you're an idiot.


http://www.rx7club.com/forum/images/smilies/asshole.gif

[benixau]

Originally posted by Somebody

What real-world object does iChat represent?


Think of when you were in school, you used to pass note to people. Little things scribbled on paper. Well, iChat and Rendevous allow you to replicate this sort of adhoc connection and send little notes without the teacher knowing.

[Chomolungma]

Say what you will, but I love my IE 5.2


reason 1: all the toolbars are collapsable. the only toolbar i have showing is the status bar. I hate having a quarter of my TiBook screen devoted to toolbars. Netscape blows! The toolbars can be collapse, but it still takes up space (useless design). Opera and Chimera are no better.

Yes, it may be slow loading pages sometimes, but it kicks butt.

If Apple comes out with a faster browser and more beautiful, but doesn't have collapsable toolbars, I'm not going to use it.

[skunk]

If iBrowse (?) turns out as buggy, slow and unreliable as IE, OW and the rest, or jerks the whole system around like iPhoto, iCal and the rest,forget it. I'm tired of having a 1MB cable connection behaving like a 9,600 modem, and having the means obscuring the end.:mad:

[ja0912]

*tests this on Chimera and NS*

Well.. my NS isn't working right, but i believe you can go status bar only in all of them. That's what the little clear button on the top right of your title bar is for... on any window. Gets rid of the toolbars.

[benixau]

Mate, i have IE, NS7, OmniWeb and Chimera on my compmuter and have only one complaint - Hotmail only works well from IE. Otherwise i use Chimera or OW.

Chimera is fast, neat and has tabbed browsing. If you dont like tabbed browsing turn it off.