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ratspg
Dec 20, 2002, 12:37 AM
I've been updating to the nightly builds of Chimera everyday. As probably the fastest browser available for OSx yet, anyone think Apple will seriously round this up to be an 'Apple browser?' Didn't they hire the main coder too? It would be nice to have an Apple Browser, seems like a lot of work for Apple though...

Lemme know what you all think...



springscansing
Dec 20, 2002, 12:52 AM
I think it would be nice if Chimera had.. oh I donno.. features? I can't even control-click an image to get its URL to show it to someone. What a pain!

scem0
Dec 20, 2002, 01:18 AM
yeah, I can relate to the image URL thing. I think Chimera needs
more features, but I don't want it to become a Mozilla. I want it
to stay a light, fast, and easy browser that works. If apple took
it as their own browser, I would love that, because then it would
be much more popular, and have more support for things.

MacBandit
Dec 20, 2002, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by springscansing
I think it would be nice if Chimera had.. oh I donno.. features? I can't even control-click an image to get its URL to show it to someone. What a pain!

Seems to work for me. I control click it says copy image location and it works.

MacBandit
Dec 20, 2002, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by springscansing
I think it would be nice if Chimera had.. oh I donno.. features? I can't even control-click an image to get its URL to show it to someone. What a pain!

It seems to work for me. If I control click on an image it gives me the option to copy image location.

My favorite feature is being able to control click the Chimera icon in the dock and have it list all my bookmarks from my toolbar.

TheT
Dec 20, 2002, 05:40 AM
Just wait til Jan 7th... what was that talk about a new iApp? It's gonna be iNet, iBrowse, iSurf... call it whatever you want, Apple will find a better name, but it's gonna be Chimera. They've had this programmer for how long now, half a year? Can't wait to see what they'll do... hopefully Brushed Metal interfaces, like Cunning (which is buggy as hell) does...

blogo
Dec 20, 2002, 07:11 AM
It doesn't really look good with brushed metal interface.

Now, what i miss is a better tab-feature.

ryanweb
Dec 20, 2002, 07:52 AM
May be Apple will just add browser functionality to Sherlock. It would be great, right now we have two separate programs (browser and Sherlock) serving the same function - to surf the Internet.
And in this case Apple does not do anything wrong politically, they do not have browser which is opponent to IE , just different and much better product.

dricci
Dec 20, 2002, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by ryanweb
May be Apple will just add browser functionality to Sherlock. It would be great, right now we have two separate programs (browser and Sherlock) serving the same function - to surf the Internet.
And in this case Apple does not do anything wrong politically, they do not have browser which is opponent to IE , just different and much better product.

I hope not! The whole point of Sherlock is to replace inefficient searching in browsers with smart search engines. I don't think I'd like to have to live inside Sherlock when browsing the web. It's seem too cramped.

Raiden
Dec 20, 2002, 09:37 AM
maybe interpoliarity (sp?) between iBrowse and sherlock. I agree browsing inside sherlock would be cramped and ugly as crap.

SilvorX
Dec 20, 2002, 09:42 AM
ive been hearing that apple will be making a browser back in sept/oct, but later on, i heard that apple wont be doing that anymore :(, we'll just have to wait and see

ELYXR
Dec 20, 2002, 01:18 PM
Anything but IE, please. Has anyone tried Netscape 7.0 for OSX? I think it's a great browser with a bad reputation. Then again Microsoft sets a new standard whenever they standardize something into Windows. The problem with an Apple browser (iBrowse or whatever) is that Apple will be forced to play the game that Netscape did.

I think there are a lot of reasons to standardize on the Netscape browser. Netscape has already taken it's bruises... it's standard on Linux ... there's OS8, 9 & OSX and Windows versions. All feature the same rendering engine. Maybe they just need to change the name:)

j763
Dec 20, 2002, 06:06 PM
Apple are widely expected to release a browser at MacWorld San Francisco along with AppleWorks 7 which is comparable to the full-fledged Microsoft Office. Their browser and office suite will be free and available for Mac OS X, Mac OS 9 and Windows. You'll be able to pick up a copy at your local Apple Authorized Retail Facility. In addition, Apple are going to release OS X for x86 boxes, again completely free. In fact, Apple will pay every user transitioning from Windows to OS X for x86 $129 USD cash.

really :rolleyes:

Don't you guys understand anything :confused:

Yes, Apple have got a browser internally, but just like 75% of Apple's technologies, it never sees the light of day.

Apple does not want to tackle Microsoft head-on like that. Period.

Whether you like it or not, Microsoft Office is going to be the standard for the next 20 years. For Apple to piss off MS so they don't make Office would be *the worst* decision Apple has ever made in its history and as we all know, there have been a shirtload of bad decisions made at Apple.

ELYXR
Dec 20, 2002, 07:18 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Apple is NOT, NEVER, NUNCA going to pay every Windows user $129 bucks to switch to x86 OSX!!! That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on these boards. Also, Appleworks costs $99 retail.

Not to mention the fact that you seem to be having a little mini-discussion in the middle of this thread... Are we interrupting you???

blogo
Dec 20, 2002, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by ELYXR
What the hell are you talking about? Apple is NOT, NEVER, NUNCA going to pay every Windows user $129 bucks to switch to x86 OSX!!! That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on these boards. Also, Appleworks costs $99 retail.

Not to mention the fact that you seem to be having a little mini-discussion in the middle of this thread... Are we interrupting you???

d'uh

edesignuk
Dec 20, 2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by ELYXR
What the hell are you talking about? Apple is NOT, NEVER, NUNCA going to pay every Windows user $129 bucks to switch to x86 OSX!!! That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on these boards. Also, Appleworks costs $99 retail.

Not to mention the fact that you seem to be having a little mini-discussion in the middle of this thread... Are we interrupting you???
He was being sarcastic, sheesh! :rolleyes:

funkywhat2
Dec 22, 2002, 12:28 AM
Cyberdog. They'll call it Cyberdog.

And they'll make a version of AOL called eWorld.

UnixMac
Dec 26, 2002, 07:33 PM
I mainly use Chimera but I find myself going back to IE:( once in a while as some pages look like crap in Navigator. I do hope Apple tweaks it and puts a Apple look to it.. I'll be a loyal customer for it. I'll even pay them $10.

NHMac
Dec 26, 2002, 08:42 PM
Would love to see some sort of bookmark sync feature as part of iSync. If apple is going to rebadge chimera it would be a good feature add.

I'm not sure if bookmarks follow a standard format or not... would my chimera bookmarks work with IE (not that I use it anymore)

jettredmont
Dec 26, 2002, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by NHMac
Would love to see some sort of bookmark sync feature as part of iSync. If apple is going to rebadge chimera it would be a good feature add.

I'm not sure if bookmarks follow a standard format or not... would my chimera bookmarks work with IE (not that I use it anymore)

IE's format is completely non-standard. I'm not even sure what it does on the Mac version, but in Windows it uses a folder filled with "URL" files (essentially a file named what the bookmark title is and containing the URL to link to).

Chimera and the rest of the Mozilla crowd use an HTML "bookmarks.html" file to hold bookmarks. You can copy this file to any system as you would any other file. Note that unstable (nightly) builds often ask you to delete your existing profile, and that includes your bookmarks.html file, but I have yet to have a problem keeping my bookmarks across Windows, Linux and Mac Mozilla/Phoenix/Chimera.

You can, of course, open the bookmarks.html file in IE as is, and there is an "import" option in IE (but not in Mozilla's spawn ...) to import the contents of your Chimera bookmarks to IE "Favorites".

Netscape also uses the HTML format. Not sure what Opera etc use.

HasanDaddy
Dec 27, 2002, 06:26 AM
Chimera is great!

Much better than IE!!!

NHMac
Dec 27, 2002, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by jettredmont
IE's format is completely non-standard.


No big surprise there...

If "open" bookmarks are just html files you could do this a couple of ways (at least)
[list=1]
a preference setting to allow a remote file to serve the bookmark, probably the easiest way to do this.
or via isync. A master master file some where in our .mac realm and the ability to sync our local bookmarks to that
[/list=1]
I want it now!

jettredmont
Jan 2, 2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by NHMac


No big surprise there...

If "open" bookmarks are just html files you could do this a couple of ways (at least)
[list=1]
a preference setting to allow a remote file to serve the bookmark, probably the easiest way to do this.
or via isync. A master master file some where in our .mac realm and the ability to sync our local bookmarks to that
[/list=1]
I want it now!

The first is in Mozilla and possibly Chimera ... Doesn't work in Phoenix (yet?), but that doesn't mean much, as many Mozilla prefs are ignored by Phoenix.

I believe you add something like:

user_pref("browser.bookmarks.file", "/home/myname/bookmarks.html");

into the User.js file of all your Netscape/Mozilla/Chimera profiles. Then they all share a bookmark file. Should work on network mount points as well ("/Volumes/MyMount/mydir/bookmarks.html") ...

NHMac
Jan 2, 2003, 01:07 PM
thnx for the tips... will this work with a remote server? i.e. http://www.domain.com/bookmark.html