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bursty
Apr 16, 2006, 03:05 PM
Before you yell, I searched and found the process needed to take my Outlook emails and export them to Mail on my MBP. Here is one such link:
http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/9928
and:
http://guides.macrumors.com/Moving_Email_from_PC_Outlook_to_Apple_Mail

As the process states, it says to simply drag and drop into Entourage. However, the files (emails) that I am moving arent in the ".eml" format that it says. They are all in ".msg" format which wont let me drag and drop into Entourage. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Anyone know of an easier way? Any help is appreciated. :o



pashazade
Apr 16, 2006, 03:43 PM
Before you yell, I searched and found the process needed to take my Outlook emails and export them to Mail on my MBP. Here is one such link:
http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/9928
and:
http://guides.macrumors.com/Moving_Email_from_PC_Outlook_to_Apple_Mail

As the process states, it says to simply drag and drop into Entourage. However, the files (emails) that I am moving arent in the ".eml" format that it says. They are all in ".msg" format which wont let me drag and drop into Entourage. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Anyone know of an easier way? Any help is appreciated. :o

Hi

Did you use Outlook or Outlook Express? According to the O'Reilly site you need to drag the folders from Outlook Express to get the .eml files.

Also, are you dragging the mailboxes; not the mails?

Alternatively you could pay $10 and get Outlook2Mac (http://www.littlemachines.com/)

Good luck.

bursty
Apr 16, 2006, 03:52 PM
Hi

Did you use Outlook or Outlook Express? According to the O'Reilly site you need to drag the folders from Outlook Express to get the .eml files.

Also, are you dragging the mailboxes; not the mails?

Alternatively you could pay $10 and get Outlook2Mac (http://www.littlemachines.com/)

Good luck.
Its Outlook, and I am dragging each individual email, not the folders.

AlBDamned
Apr 16, 2006, 04:18 PM
Is it worth trying to import the mailboxes themselves?

bursty
Apr 16, 2006, 04:27 PM
Is it worth trying to import the mailboxes themselves?
Not sure what you mean :confused: Theres no way in Outlook to "Import to Mac". Theres an option to export to a ".pst" file, but apparently Entourage and Mail dont support .pst files.

This whole process seems extremely simple but my GOD have they made it incredibly complicated. :mad:

AlBDamned
Apr 16, 2006, 04:31 PM
Not sure what you mean :confused: Theres no way in Outlook to "Import to Mac". Theres an option to export to a ".pst" file, but apparently Entourage and Mail dont support .pst files.

This whole process seems extremely simple but my GOD have they made it incredibly complicated. :mad:

No, but there is a very easy import from entourage/outlook option in Mail. :)

bursty
Apr 16, 2006, 06:37 PM
No, but there is a very easy import from entourage/outlook option in Mail. :)
Thats for Outlook on the Mac, not from a PC. :)

The search continues... :(

kiwi-in-uk
Apr 16, 2006, 08:00 PM
A couple of years ago I did this without extra software. I imported from Outlook to Outlook Express. Then imported from OE to Entourage. Then selected all the emails in each mailbox and dragged them to the desktop. (They were placed in mbox format as part of the drag/copy process) then imported to Mail. That worked ok for me but was a bit convoluted & I didn't know any better.

This (http://www.hawkwings.net/2005/09/11/importing-email-from-outlook-and-outlook-express/) contains links and instructions for three alternative tools (Outlook2mac, Dxconv, and another method using Mozilla).

Good luck.

nylon
Apr 16, 2006, 10:46 PM
The best way is to move your PST files from Outlook on Windows over to the Mac. Then use the PST to Entourage converter to import them to Entourage.

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx?pid=download&location=/mac/download/office2004/pstimport.xml&secid=4&ssid=15&flgnosysreq=True

Then import from Entourage using the built in option in Mail.

I know it's a hassle but I think it works.

MisterMe
Apr 16, 2006, 10:57 PM
....

I know it's a hassle but I think it works.No, it does not. PST Import Tool is designed to import .pst files that were created using Outlook 2001, the last Mac version of Outlook, into Entourage 2004. It does not import .pst files created on Windows.

bursty
Apr 16, 2006, 11:34 PM
Yea I tried that as well. I found the pst converter on Apples site, but it didnt work. :o

nylon
Apr 16, 2006, 11:43 PM
No, it does not. PST Import Tool is designed to import .pst files that were created using Outlook 2001, the last Mac version of Outlook, into Entourage 2004. It does not import .pst files created on Windows.

Well that just blows! Way to go MS.

bursty
Apr 17, 2006, 01:04 AM
A couple of years ago I did this without extra software. I imported from Outlook to Outlook Express. Then imported from OE to Entourage. Then selected all the emails in each mailbox and dragged them to the desktop. (They were placed in mbox format as part of the drag/copy process) then imported to Mail. That worked ok for me but was a bit convoluted & I didn't know any better.

This (http://www.hawkwings.net/2005/09/11/importing-email-from-outlook-and-outlook-express/) contains links and instructions for three alternative tools (Outlook2mac, Dxconv, and another method using Mozilla).

Good luck.
I'm gonna try that tomorrow, thanks for the help guys.

and thank you M$ :rolleyes:

killmoms
Apr 17, 2006, 08:41 AM
Do any of the other mail clients on Windows (like Thunderbird, for instance) import Outlook files? Because I'm pretty sure Thunderbird is capable of exporting a format that Mail would be able to open. Not sure though. It's been two and a half years since I moved all my mail from Outlook Express to Mail (and it was a bitch too, I think I used my 60-day free .mac trial IMAP account to do it).

Mitthrawnuruodo
Apr 17, 2006, 09:05 AM
Apple suggest that the easiest way is to go through an IMAP account (like Cless apparently did): Mac OS X Mail: How to import email from a non-Macintosh computer (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106778). Seems quite easy. :)

danny_w
Apr 17, 2006, 09:13 AM
I used dxconv, and it was fairly simple but I lost my folders. Copy the OE files to a working folder (don't work with the woriginal files in case something goes wrong), and run the dxconv program on them (it can do them all at once). This will produce files that Mail can use. I think there are some limitations on attachments, but I didn't care.

Glen Quagmire
Apr 17, 2006, 09:25 AM
I used Outlook2Mac. It cost $10, but it worked flawlessly and the conversion process was simple.

MisterMe
Apr 17, 2006, 09:37 AM
I used dxconv, and it was fairly simple but I lost my folders. Copy the OE files to a working folder (don't work with the woriginal files in case something goes wrong), and run the dxconv program on them (it can do them all at once). This will produce files that Mail can use. I think there are some limitations on attachments, but I didn't care.Outlook Express and Outlook are two different apps. Outlook Express is the free email app which ships with all copies of Windows. Microsoft had a MacOS 9 version, which was the out-of-the-box email app for that OS. Outlook is the office communications app which is bundled with Office:win. There is no MacOS X version of Outlook. As strange as it may seem, Microsoft provided Mac users with MacOS 9-compatible Outlook 2001 as a free download. However, Outlook 2001 was exclusively an Exchange client.

bursty
Apr 21, 2006, 01:39 PM
Well, I got fed up and just bought Outlook2Mac. 10 minutes later, DONE. :)

danny_w
Apr 21, 2006, 02:36 PM
Well, I got fed up and just bought Outlook2Mac. 10 minutes later, DONE. :)
Too bad it doesn't work with Outlook Express. I venture to say there are far more PC users on OE than on Outlook, since it is the free email program. I think it is a real shame that Apple doesn't have an easy migration tool available for OE.

bursty
Apr 21, 2006, 03:08 PM
Too bad it doesn't work with Outlook Express. I venture to say there are far more PC users on OE than on Outlook, since it is the free email program. I think it is a real shame that Apple doesn't have an easy migration tool available for OE.
I agree

MisterMe
Apr 21, 2006, 04:33 PM
Too bad it doesn't work with Outlook Express. I venture to say there are far more PC users on OE than on Outlook, since it is the free email program. I think it is a real shame that Apple doesn't have an easy migration tool available for OE.What's so hard about the Outlook Express import function in Mail?

nylon
Apr 21, 2006, 05:08 PM
I have an IMAP account at work. I am just going to create a couple of folders under that account. Backup my other account emails to those folders and download them and organize them in Mail. Seems like the easiest method. This way at least all the original details are retained (header, date/time,etc)

I wonder if there are free IMAP accounts availalbe of the web or perhaps free trial accounts.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Apr 21, 2006, 05:38 PM
I wonder if there are free IMAP accounts availalbe of the web or perhaps free trial accounts.Like .Mac...? 60 days free trial... :)

danny_w
Apr 21, 2006, 05:48 PM
What's so hard about the Outlook Express import function in Mail?
It only is designed for the Mac version of Outlook Express, and won't work with the PC version. I thought the same thing when I first switched. Why would anybody need a converter from Mac OE to Mac Mail? Sounds like a pretty lame conversion to me.

MisterMe
Apr 21, 2006, 06:45 PM
.... Why would anybody need a converter from Mac OE to Mac Mail? ....For people who upgraded from MacOS 9 to MacOS X. Not all of us came over from the Dark Side.

balamw
Apr 21, 2006, 07:08 PM
Like .Mac...? 60 days free trial... :)
I agree with the IMAP suggestions. For a while there a few years back I was running Pegasus on my Win box to serve mail by IMAP to the other boxes in the house. Now I just use gmail.

I'm a bit surprised that there's no simple version of Courier-IMAP around for Tiger, so you could run your own, with a Maildir back-end, but I guess that is a feature reserved for OS X Server.

B

nylon
Apr 21, 2006, 08:35 PM
Like .Mac...? 60 days free trial... :)

But can you setup your .Mac imap account in Outlook on a Windows box and backup your mail to it, or is it only reserved for Macs. If you can then more power to the people.

In fact if you can then Apple should actively promote that so that switchers not only get the ability to move their email over seamlessly but also so that more switchers are encouraged to try the .Mac service.

kiwi-in-uk
Apr 21, 2006, 09:22 PM
The IMAP approach is good (I tried it) but is not always practical. I was converting around 12,000 messages and attachments totalling over 4GB.

Does anyone know how Outlook2mac handles large volumes of messages?

danny_w
Apr 21, 2006, 10:46 PM
For people who upgraded from MacOS 9 to MacOS X. Not all of us came over from the Dark Side.
So OE was the mail client for OS 9? I didn't know that (I'm new to Macs). Thanks for the info.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Apr 21, 2006, 10:53 PM
But can you setup your .Mac imap account in Outlook on a Windows box and backup your mail to it, or is it only reserved for Macs. If you can then more power to the people.

In fact if you can then Apple should actively promote that so that switchers not only get the ability to move their email over seamlessly but also so that more switchers are encouraged to try the .Mac service.I hope so, since this is what Apple suggests themselves in the article I provided a link for earlier in this thread, Mac OS X Mail: How to import email from a non-Macintosh computer (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106778), though without mentioning Outlook specifically... ;)

Outlook can be made to handle IMAP, right...?

So OE was the mail client for OS 9? I didn't know that (I'm new to Macs). Thanks for the info.One of many, yes. I used Eudora most of my pre-OS X days... much, much better... ;)

bursty
Apr 22, 2006, 01:34 AM
The IMAP approach is good (I tried it) but is not always practical. I was converting around 12,000 messages and attachments totalling over 4GB.

Does anyone know how Outlook2mac handles large volumes of messages?
The account I used it on today was around 3000+ emails, totalling over a gig with attachments. Took maybe 10 minutes or so to archive on my old POS Dell laptop, then another 5 minutes or so importing in Mail on my new MBP :D

Overall, very happy with how simple O2M was, definitely worth the $10

MisterMe
Apr 22, 2006, 08:11 AM
So OE was the mail client for OS 9? I didn't know that (I'm new to Macs). Thanks for the info.When Apple bundled Internet Explorer (in addition to Netscape Communicator) with MacOS 8/9, it also bundled Outlook Express. To this day, Apple bundles these apps with the Classic environment.