10.2.6

[sickracer2015]

saw it floating around.. whould would have thought apple would hit 10.2.6.. After 10.2.5 I would figure apple would have their people working on 10.3 for the preview at WWDC..

[Wes]

The copy I see floating around is 10.2.6 6L51

[jholzner]

So, does anyone know anything about the update?

[Wes]

Originally posted by jholzner
So, does anyone know anything about the update?

Well, on the server I saw it, the copy they had was 3.2 megs. And they test the files, this wasn't in the uploads folder.

[arn]

rumored to fix:

Improved reliability for the following applications, services, and technologies: Address Book, Graphics, Printing, OpenGL, and PC Card and USB Hub compatibility.

USB kernal panic fixed, Unreal Tournament 2003 GeForce video improved compatibility and other minor fixes.

[mac15]

wow, its for real

I thought people were just concluding 10.2.6 would come along

[Stelliform]

I hope that they do not hold off UT2K3 until the update. :(

[wsteineker]

Improved printing will be awesome! I'm having some insane wait times to spool documents. As always, OpenGL and graphics improvements are most appreciated. I saw HUGE improvements in QE performance with 10.2.5, and I'm hoping for the same leap with 10.2.6. Let's hope this one cleans up the remaining bugs so that Panther can bring some real performance! :D

[howard]

you know whenever an update occurs i never really feel that much of a difference...unless there is something SPECIFIC being implemented... but i never really notice my comptuer is faster or slower.

[RBMaraman]

Ah yes! I knew Jaguar would have a 10.2.6 update!

I seem to recall a great amount of doubt from people when I mentioned the possibility of a 10.2.6 update in an earlier thread....

Victory is mine! Ha ha ha!

Anyway, I'm going to assume this will be the final update before Panther's release. Does anyone think we will see a 10.2.7 update? Right now, I'm betting that September will be the Panther release month, and 10.2.6 will be available in June. Any takers?

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by howard
you know whenever an update occurs i never really feel that much of a difference...unless there is something SPECIFIC being implemented... but i never really notice my comptuer is faster or slower.

Me neither. I think it's either hope and expectation causing an effect of a speed up or the fact that the installer rebinds everything. I keep my system extremely clean and have never seen a speedup from an update other then 10.1->10.2.

[ebow]

Originally posted by RBMaraman
Anyway, I'm going to assume this will be the final update before Panther's release. Does anyone think we will see a 10.2.7 update? Right now, I'm betting that September will be the Panther release month, and 10.2.6 will be available in June. Any takers?

Nah, the way I see (read: make up) things, the 10.2.x series will end at 10.2.6, but 10.3 will make it up to 10.3.7. Observe:

10.0.0 --> 10.0.4
10.1.0 --> 10.1.5
10.2.0 --> 10.2.6
so...
10.3.0 --> 10.3.7

Eh? Eh? :D

Yeah, so, it's nutty. Sorry, I just finished my last grad school exam ever (most likely)!!! Woo. :) :cool:

[sickracer2015]

I found this:

The 10.2.6 Update delivers enhanced funcionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services, and technologies: Address Book, Graphics, Printing, OpenGL, and PC and USB Hub Device combatibility.

Mac OSX 10.2.5 USB HUB Kernal panic in certain configurations fixed.
Unreal Tournament 2003 and GeForce video on Mac OS X 10.2.5 improved compatibility.
Re-Insertion of Novatel Wireless CDMA 1.9 GHZ PC Card Compatibility Fix.
Using Paint Effect in Maya on Mac OS X 10.2.5 compatibility fix.
LaserWriter 8 printing OpenType fonts compatibility fix.
Added Address book support for Sony Ericcson T610 phone.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by sickracer2015
I found this:

The 10.2.6 Update delivers enhanced funcionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services, and technologies: Address Book, Graphics, Printing, OpenGL, and PC and USB Hub Device combatibility.

Mac OSX 10.2.5 USB HUB Kernal panic in certain configurations fixed.
Unreal Tournament 2003 and GeForce video on Mac OS X 10.2.5 improved compatibility.
Re-Insertion of Novatel Wireless CDMA 1.9 GHZ PC Card Compatibility Fix.
Using Paint Effect in Maya on Mac OS X 10.2.5 compatibility fix.
LaserWriter 8 printing OpenType fonts compatibility fix.
Added Address book support for Sony Ericcson T610 phone.

uh.... wtf?

Where are you getting this? ;) :D

Anyway, Another OpenGL update?? We are getting a little hasty aren't we?

I guess it fixes some UT2K3 problem or something, BTW, They NEED to release it!

[jayscheuerle]

Originally posted by howard
you know whenever an update occurs i never really feel that much of a difference...unless there is something SPECIFIC being implemented... but i never really notice my comptuer is faster or slower.

You obviously don't drink the official MacRumors brand of Kool-Aid! - j

:D

Besides, my system would speed up more if Adobe optimized their apps better. Have they lost the ability to make responsive applications? I've seen fewer dogs in a kennel...

[Freg3000]

What's with this UT2K3 talk? Sounds really strange to me. I doubt Apple would actually cite a specific game in an update.

[Kid Red]

Originally posted by sickracer2015
saw it floating around.. whould would have thought apple would hit 10.2.6.. After 10.2.5 I would figure apple would have their people working on 10.3 for the preview at WWDC..

Maybe something to do with the audio bug crash and a few other USB problems. I don't think Apple intended a x.x.6 update.

[spaced]

I hear 10.2.6 will remove even more debug code and make everyone's system a lot snappier.

[nichrome]

Kernal panics sure are nasty.

The update description is Apple-like, but the typo makes the description sound dubious. Hoax-y, even.

[wsteineker]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Besides, my system would speed up more if Adobe optimized their apps better. Have they lost the ability to make responsive applications? I've seen fewer dogs in a kennel...

No *****. It's killing me. The prime reason I am forced to upgrade my system is friggin' Adobe. It also doesn't help that I've got a minute and a half lag when typing more than one sentence of text into a template in Dreamweaver. No matter, though. Macromedia would have a hard time releasing software that's as pitiful as Adobe's latest efforts in terms of performance. :rolleyes:

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Freg3000
What's with this UT2K3 talk? Sounds really strange to me. I doubt Apple would actually cite a specific game in an update.

It would not be the first time they have mentioned a specific game or program.

About typos, search through apples support site they are all over in these update texts.

[applenut]

Originally posted by howard
you know whenever an update occurs i never really feel that much of a difference...unless there is something SPECIFIC being implemented... but i never really notice my comptuer is faster or slower.

You know I noticed this myself. But maybe it's just me.:rolleyes:

[j33pd0g]

I hope 10.2.6 is true and that it fixes what is stated in the rumor.

10.2.5 made my system slower. However I just tried System Optimizer X 4.0.1 and it sped things up considerably. BTW, and off topic?: Has anybody noticed the .mac service being up and down today? Extra slow for me... also there are periods while connecting times out.

[DeusOmnis]

Originally posted by j33pd0g
I hope 10.2.6 is true and that it fixes what is stated in the rumor.

10.2.5 made my system slower. However I just tried System Optimizer X 4.0.1 and it sped things up considerably. BTW, and off topic?: Has anybody noticed the .mac service being up and down today? Extra slow for me... also there are periods while connecting times out.


.mac has always been as slow as heck, or at least that's what i remember from iTools.

[jouster]

I wonder if this will address the problem I get with sleeping the comp with a 3.5" floppy drive (I know, I know......school requirement....) attached.

It sleeps, but cannot be woken, even though the little LED pulses normally. A hard reset is the only way to get it started.

This also happens with my Powermate.....

[mangoman]

Originally posted by Freg3000
What's with this UT2K3 talk? Sounds really strange to me. I doubt Apple would actually cite a specific game in an update.

Ahh, my friend, we're not talking about ANY game!

muwahahahahahahaha.....

[AppleMatt]

Originally posted by RBMaraman
I seem to recall a great amount of doubt from people when I mentioned the possibility of a 10.2.6 update in an earlier thread....


Same here, I was abused for my prediction :(.

Anyway the amount of bugs 10.2.5 introduced meant that 10.2.6 was definately going to come, whether Apple intended it or not I don't know.

I saw benchmarks somewhere on the 10.2.x updates, and 10.2.5 slowed down everything except the UI. Maybe Apple will address that aswell as the specific problems.

AppleMatt

(If anyone can point me back to those benchmarks...I'd be very grateful)

[gopher]

The USB hub issue has meant I've told all my clients to hold off on getting 10.2.5. Thank goodness there will be a 10.2.6 update.
At least now if 10.3 isn't worth it, people can get Jaguar and enjoy it.

10.2.0 - 10.2.2 AIO HP problems, some 56k modem issues
10.2.3 - some 56k modem issues
10.2.4 - batteries in some iBooks and Powerbooks going dead quicker
10.2.5 - kernal panics in USB hubs.

Let's hope I can get my clients with 56k connections on iBooks and Powerbooks onto a version of Jaguar that works.

[jonfif]

I dunno, I noticed things getting snappier in 10.2.2, 10.2.3, and 10.2.4, particularly with the iApps, Mail and iPhoto being the ones that stand out. But 10.2.5 REALLY slowed things down for me. I'm running it on a G3 500 iMac, 640MB RAM. I'm just hoping Panther doesn't leave me behind... wait, no, I'll be getting a G4 iMac before then. Uh-oh, now I that actually wrote it out, I'm sure to jinx myself and lose my job or something...

As far as .Mac goes, those who remember the glacial pace of iTools, well, I wasn't sure it was gonna be worth paying for, but all the apps, and especially iDisk, SCREAM ever since Jaguar.

[MacsRgr8]

Originally posted by ebow
Nah, the way I see (read: make up) things, the 10.2.x series will end at 10.2.6, but 10.3 will make it up to 10.3.7. Observe:

10.0.0 --> 10.0.4
10.1.0 --> 10.1.5
10.2.0 --> 10.2.6
so...
10.3.0 --> 10.3.7

Eh? Eh? :D

Yeah, so, it's nutty. Sorry, I just finished my last grad school exam ever (most likely)!!! Woo. :) :cool:

Well spotted!

Ehh. by the way (don't kill me if I'm wrong...) but I thought that usually the letter in the build number also moved one up. Like 10.2.5 is 6L29, so 10.2.6 would be 6Mxx...? I'm not sure, and too bad I'm not running 10.2.4 or earlier somewhere anymore to check it. I know it's the first seed, but still...

[TylerL]

Originally posted by MacsRgr8
Ehh. by the way (don't kill me if I'm wrong...) but I thought that usually the letter in the build number also moved one up. Like 10.2.5 is 6L29, so 10.2.6 would be 6Mxx...? I'm not sure, and too bad I'm not running 10.2.4 or earlier somewhere anymore to check it. I know it's the first seed, but still... Apple's build structure looks stupid and confusing, but makes sense after a while.

The first number corresponds to the major version of Darwin, currently version 6 (tidbit: the Public Beta used version 1, and OS 10.0 used version 4).
The letter corresponds to "major minor" changes, to the kernel, included programs, etc.
The second numberset is for minor tweaks and small bug fixes.

So...you can think of OS 10.2.5 as version 6.12.29

It's entirely possible that an update like 10.2.6 could be trivial enough to be considered a bugfix and part of the 6L family.

If I'm wrong or incorrect, please correct me.
...and kill MacsRgr8 while you're at it.

[MacFan25]

If we do see 10.2.6 available to everyone, I predict it will be relased in mid May.

[MacsRgr8]

Originally posted by TylerL


If I'm wrong or incorrect, please correct me.
...and kill MacsRgr8 while you're at it.

I wish I could correct you, but that'll be suicide... :)

Still, tnx for the info.
Just wondering if an update (10.x.x) has been considered a bugfix in the past....

[foniks2020]

10.2.5 really does have a major problem with the USB issue... it killed my gf's 800mhz ibook, we had to do an archive reinstall...

ie; load up the 10.2.3 install CDs that came with it and reinstall while keeping her user account and app folder intact, luckily all went well but she can't update to 10.2.5 until the USB thing is fixed so she's gonna skip it and wait until this .6 comes out.

[rog]

Originally posted by sickracer2015
saw it floating around.. whould would have thought apple would hit 10.2.6.. After 10.2.5 I would figure apple would have their people working on 10.3 for the preview at WWDC..

Who wouldn't have is a better question, given the enormous problems with USB hubs that seem to be affecting many. They should have fixed that within a week and just released a 10.2.6 update to fix it, and throw in this other stuff later. Ending kernal panics is critical and the fix is overdue.

[gopher]

Originally posted by jonfif
I dunno, I noticed things getting snappier in 10.2.2, 10.2.3, and 10.2.4, particularly with the iApps, Mail and iPhoto being the ones that stand out. But 10.2.5 REALLY slowed things down for me. I'm running it on a G3 500 iMac, 640MB RAM. I'm just hoping Panther doesn't leave me behind... wait, no, I'll be getting a G4 iMac before then. Uh-oh, now I that actually wrote it out, I'm sure to jinx myself and lose my job or something...

As far as .Mac goes, those who remember the glacial pace of iTools, well, I wasn't sure it was gonna be worth paying for, but all the apps, and especially iDisk, SCREAM ever since Jaguar.
Speed has never been problem for me. Just read my FAQ, and keep your system optimized:

http://www.macmaps.com/Macosxspeed.html

[F/reW/re]

Originally posted by wsteineker
No *****. It's killing me. The prime reason I am forced to upgrade my system is friggin' Adobe. It also doesn't help that I've got a minute and a half lag when typing more than one sentence of text into a template in Dreamweaver. No matter, though. Macromedia would have a hard time releasing software that's as pitiful as Adobe's latest efforts in terms of performance. :rolleyes:
The new Illustrator 11 is getting better. Since so few actually are using illustrator 10 Adobe decided to do something about the speedproblem. On my iBook 500MHz Illustrator 11 beta runs much smoother than Illustrator 10!

[joelc]

I hope this printing update is true. When I upgraded to 10.2.5, I lost the ability to print to my for-sure functional LW 4/600. It's a real bother, let me tell you. With my luck, every other printer will receive a benefit, but not mine...

[bdkennedy1]

I don't see why people would have thought 10.2.5 would have been the last update. Apple releases an update about every 1 1/2 months and there's at least 4 months left until 10.3 is released. I wouldn't be surprised to see 10.2.8.

[AppleMatt]

Originally posted by bryank1
I don't see why people would have thought 10.2.5 would have been the last update. Apple releases an update about every 1 1/2 months and there's at least 4 months left until 10.3 is released. I wouldn't be surprised to see 10.2.8.

They thought that because Apple Store Employees were reportedly told that it would be the case.

I personally believe they will release updates to fix problems with previous updates, once all are fixed, then we wait for 10.3.

AppleMatt

[MacBandit]

To anyone having update slowdowns and problems I fully recommend doing an archive and reinstall of 10.2 and then using the updater to go straight to the latest build.

I have noticed a slowdown after every build unless I did this. I feel it's the only way to have a clean system and be as bug free as possible. It really is painless and if you do it before you upgrade it means you never have to deal with the headaches and you only have to download the update the one time.

I have and use a USB hub with 10.2.5 with absolutely no problems. It's a Belkin 4 port and it works great.

[BaghdadBob]

Originally posted by nichrome
Kernal panics sure are nasty.

The update description is Apple-like, but the typo makes the description sound dubious. Hoax-y, even.

I just ran across a typo on Apple's official site describing the benefits of their flatscreen monitors...drooool.....some day soon, my pretties....

[WM.]

Originally posted by nichrome
Kernal panics sure are nasty.

The update description is Apple-like, but the typo makes the description sound dubious. Hoax-y, even.
(old stuff deleted)

Edit: Drat, I guess I should really RTFT (thread) again before responding...

Sorry about that. I misinterpreted what you were saying and didn't bother to check back and make sure that that was what you actually meant.

As for:
Originally posted by nichrome
About typos, search through apples support site they are all over in these update texts.
Please do provide some examples.

Thanks
WM

[wsteineker]

Originally posted by F/reW/re
The new Illustrator 11 is getting better. Since so few actually are using illustrator 10 Adobe decided to do something about the speedproblem. On my iBook 500MHz Illustrator 11 beta runs much smoother than Illustrator 10!

Thank god. Now if we can just get something done about all of the drag assing in Photoshop we'll be on the way to making my life a little less painful. :)

[shadowfax]

wow, it will happen after all! this is cool, i think. or do you think this just means 10.3 will probably be released later?

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by WM.
Please do provide some examples.

Thanks
WM

As for examples of typos. The post right before you states they found a typo with on the page describing the benefits of flat screens. Sorry I'm not going to waste an hour to find specific examples. Either trust me on it or go look on your own. The time used looking for examples could be used looking for answers to people problems which is the main reason I am a member of this site.

[BaghdadBob]

Since I saved you time looking up stupid typos, maybe you can tell me why iPhoto won't burn onto my Iomega drive :D

Just a thought :p

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Since I saved you time looking up stupid typos, maybe you can tell me why iPhoto won't burn onto my Iomega drive :D

Just a thought :p

Start a new thread about this in the help section. I have a lot of info for you.

[mangoduck]

opengl improvements are listed yet again. apple seems to be hitting graphics really hard, which leads me to believe they hear the ui speed complaints and agree. i haven't noticed any real difference from 10.2 to 10.2.5 (and all the ones in between), but my machine can't use qe either (imac 400, rage128) so i'm not likely to see anything anyway.

i'm also impressed at how fast they are cranking out these updates as of late. bravo, os x team!

and glad to hear illustrator is getting better. version 9 in os 9 was tolerable, but 10 in osx is a ferret in quicksand tied to an anvil. photoshop 7 is decent though.

[Perceptes]

I use my Mac for pro audio. There have been a lot of problems in the switch to OS X among the sequencers, audio card drivers, and the OS. I have an M-Audio card, and a rep from their company said they are waiting for the 10.2.6 update which is supposed to solve "all" these problems before they start working on new drivers of their own. So apparently better audio support is coming...

[ryan]

Originally posted by spaced
I hear 10.2.6 will remove even more debug code and make everyone's system a lot snappier.
Statements like these kill me. I don't claim to know how Apple manages their source code or build process, but as a software developer I can tell you it is *very* typical to be have a "switch" that can flipped during compile time that allows all debug code to be turned on or off. So, regardless of the amount of debug code in a program, it won't effect the speed of a program if it is turned off in any binary distribution of the code.

[Bengt77]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
You obviously don't drink the official MacRumors brand of Kool-Aid! - j

:D



Snap snap snap! Snappier than ever, anyone?! :cool:

[AppleMatt]

I'd really like to know more about both sides of this argument...

AppleMatt

[encro]

Originally posted by ryan
Statements like these kill me. I don't claim to know how Apple manages their source code or build process, but as a software developer I can tell you it is *very* typical to be have a "switch" that can flipped during compile time that allows all debug code to be turned on or off. So, regardless of the amount of debug code in a program, it won't effect the speed of a program if it is turned off in any binary distribution of the code.

ditto. Maybe he meant optimizations of the NeXT code which I doubt Apple will incorporate into 10.2.6. This is more likely candidate material for 10.3 to help justify another faster better system upgrade.

[JLL]

Originally posted by ryan
Statements like these kill me. I don't claim to know how Apple manages their source code or build process, but as a software developer I can tell you it is *very* typical to be have a "switch" that can flipped during compile time that allows all debug code to be turned on or off. So, regardless of the amount of debug code in a program, it won't effect the speed of a program if it is turned off in any binary distribution of the code.

Hehe, I think he was joking!

Debug code post go back to the 4K78 era.

[MrMacMan]

anyone know when this is coming out?
10.2.6 that is.

[JJTiger1]

Originally posted by ebow
so...
10.3.0 --> 10.3.7

The last OS-X would be;
10.4 over and out

Roger Dodger...:D

JJ

[JLL]

Originally posted by MrMacman
anyone know when this is coming out?
10.2.6 that is.

I think that it will happen very soon since it's a small bug fix.