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RiseAgainst
Jun 11, 2003, 01:59 AM
Hi, i just recently switched and still working through some things. How come it is not possible to optimize a drive that is the start up drive. Ive used disk warrior and drive x but non let me do it. Y is that, and is there a program that will let me?



zimv20
Jun 11, 2003, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by RiseAgainst
Hi, i just recently switched and still working through some things. How come it is not possible to optimize a drive that is the start up drive. Ive used disk warrior and drive x but non let me do it. Y is that, and is there a program that will let me?

do you mean to say that you've booted the machine w/ your normal startup drive, inserted the CD and run the program?

if so, the program is telling you the correct thing.

instead: stick in the CD, reboot while holding down the C key (it forces the machine to boot from the CD drive) and the fix-it program should start. now, the CD is the startup drive and you can fix Machintosh HD (or whatever you've called it).

mmmdreg
Jun 11, 2003, 05:18 AM
bear in mind booting from cd's can be painfully slow depending on the system.

maradong
Jun 11, 2003, 05:32 AM
is that what has to be done to do things like defragment the disc ?

Once we re back in the optimizing topic. how do i manually free unneeded , and occupied ram ? i know it is used as cache for closed programms, but just tell me. i heart that the os might get slow with uptimes over 10 says.

blogo
Jun 11, 2003, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by maradong
is that what has to be done to do things like defragment the disc ?

Once we re back in the optimizing topic. how do i manually free unneeded , and occupied ram ? i know it is used as cache for closed programms, but just tell me. i heart that the os might get slow with uptimes over 10 says.

it's called reboot

Schiffi
Jun 11, 2003, 11:05 AM
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7610

This program will free ram for you, but there is a command in Terminal which does this (I am currently searching for it).

mactastic
Jun 11, 2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by RiseAgainst
Hi, i just recently switched and still working through some things. How come it is not possible to optimize a drive that is the start up drive. Ive used disk warrior and drive x but non let me do it. Y is that, and is there a program that will let me?

Your aren't allowed to make modifications to your startup disk with utilities like diskwarrior. You need to have system software somewhere else than your hard drive in order to do this. Firewire disks work, as do system cds. By far the most common method is to boot off a CD. Diskwarrior has all the system info needed to do this, but unless you have the new version it will boot in OS9. don't be scared, it still works just fine. And if you recently purchased an older version of diskwarrior, call alsoft and they will send you the latest version for free, all you pay is like $7 for shipping. I just got mine about 2 weeks ago.

zimv20
Jun 11, 2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by maradong
how do i manually free unneeded , and occupied ram ? i know it is used as cache for closed programms, but just tell me. i heart that the os might get slow with uptimes over 10 says.

unix is a robust operating system and it'll handle memory management for you. as far as the OS slowing down after some period of time, i haven't noticed it. my webserver was up > 100 days until a power failure brought it down.

RiseAgainst
Jun 11, 2003, 03:51 PM
booting from the cd worked great. Thanks alot.

zimv20
Jun 11, 2003, 03:56 PM
you are most welcome.

jelloshotsrule
Jun 11, 2003, 05:30 PM
sorry for the off topic post... but is your name in reference to the band (rise against)?

RiseAgainst
Jun 12, 2003, 07:06 AM
Yep

jelloshotsrule
Jun 12, 2003, 09:43 AM
cool. good band... are you in it? ;) are they even still together?

mdeschenes
Jun 12, 2003, 07:08 PM
If you happen to have an external drive with an operating system installed, it works quite well. I placed Drive 10 on my external. I then go to preferences to reboot via the external. I can do all of my maintanance of the Primary Drive and it is somewhat faster than booting with the CD.
The price of externals is dropping from a few years ago so I figured it was a great investment to save work and to have an alternate start up disk in case of some unforseen disaster.

Mike

maradong
Jun 13, 2003, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by zimv20
unix is a robust operating system and it'll handle memory management for you. as far as the OS slowing down after some period of time, i haven't noticed it. my webserver was up > 100 days until a power failure brought it down.
i know, but there are some people on this forum who told somewhere the system gets slow with big uptimes. I haven t noticed that on my linux systems though. Just wanted to know. wasn t sure.