Using Ubuntu Linux as compared to Mac OS X.

[princealfie]

I am rather impressed by using Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty on a lot of my Macs. Granted it may not be as user friendly as Tiger but it runs a little bit snappier using the same specs. I even had 7.04 installed on my Tangerine iBook 300mhz and it wasn't bad at all.

Granted, there are quite of apps with Mac OS X and Ubuntu. Now that Ubuntu Studio is released perhaps we have something comparable to Final Cut Express which is open source.

Plus Ubuntu has very few problems with the drivers on the Macs as compared to the PCs I tried to install on (Alienware was a nightmare to deal with). Thus Macs are good for running Ubuntu, Tiger and Windows Vista! :D

Honestly, Vista is out the door and I am preferring Ubuntu much more than the M$ software.

Any other Ubuntu/Mac OS X users here? :D

[bokdol]

i am loving ubuntu. 7.04 runs real nice on this old pentium 1.6 notebook i am using. it's great. but i did not know ubuntu studio came out. thats great. thanks for the info.

[princealfie]

i am loving ubuntu. 7.04 runs real nice on this old pentium 1.6 notebook i am using. it's great. but i did not know ubuntu studio came out. thats great. thanks for the info.

Nice, once you install ubuntu studio tell us how you liked it :D.

[Since '76]

I noticed the other day that Dell is going to be shipping some laptop and desktop models with Ubuntu preinstalled and fully supported:
link 1 (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs)
link 2 (http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3674996)
I could be very interested if the price is right

[RaMaz]

I noticed the other day that Dell is going to be shipping some laptop and desktop models with Ubuntu preinstalled and fully supported:
link 1 (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs)
link 2 (http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3674996)
I could be very interested if the price is right

that would be great! now for OS X :-P :p

[princealfie]

that would be great! now for OS X :-P :p

Indeed, although that could get a lil hairy there.

[trevorlsciact]

Indeed, although that could get a lil hairy there.

Not if Steve Jobs remembers to shave.

[skinnylegs]

Sorry.....any OS that requires another dl for something as simple as playing a DVD isn't for me.

[iToaster]

I've been toying around with the idea of Ununtu on my MacBook, but it seems a little complicated, I think I need to find a lot of drivers and such, anyone want to help?

[wrldwzrd89]

I used Kubuntu, a similar project, on my Windows PC (overwriting the Windows installation). It works well enough, but I don't really use it all that much. The only reason I used Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu is because I was introduced to Linux with Knoppix, which uses KDE. I'm a total newbie to GNOME. I tried to install Kubuntu under Parallels on my MBP, but it stalled and wouldn't run for some strange reason, so I'm switching to Fedora 7 as soon as it's released (it's due about 2 weeks from now, and Parallels supports Fedora directly).

[iJawn108]

I am a casual ubuntu fan, i rarely use it but sometimes.

PC-BSD is pretty nice also.

[sishaw]

I've been toying around with the idea of Ununtu on my MacBook, but it seems a little complicated, I think I need to find a lot of drivers and such, anyone want to help?

There is an extremely helpful Ubuntu users forum, http://ubuntuforums.org/, and a script called Automatix that will solve most of the post installation "tweaks".

[djstarrock]

Sorry this is off-topic but which one should I download for my MacBook.

[mattsajay]

I am rather impressed by using Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty on a lot of my Macs. Granted it may not be as user friendly as Tiger but it runs a little bit snappier using the same specs. I even had 7.04 installed on my Tangerine iBook 300mhz and it wasn't bad at all.

Granted, there are quite of apps with Mac OS X and Ubuntu. Now that Ubuntu Studio is released perhaps we have something comparable to Final Cut Express which is open source.

Plus Ubuntu has very few problems with the drivers on the Macs as compared to the PCs I tried to install on (Alienware was a nightmare to deal with). Thus Macs are good for running Ubuntu, Tiger and Windows Vista! :D

Honestly, Vista is out the door and I am preferring Ubuntu much more than the M$ software.

Any other Ubuntu/Mac OS X users here? :D

I plan to partition my hard disc of the MBP or MB, whichever I buy in the next couple of days to make a dual boot tiger/ubuntu machine.
any pointers as to how to partition the disk with the mac os that comes installed in the machine.

[mkrishnan]

So in terms of the Ubuntu studio packaged tools... Ardour is amazing. As is GIMP. Does anyone have any experience with PiTiVi? Is it usable?

[dpaanlka]

Ubuntu (and any other Linux) is cool at first but the coolness quickly wears off once you realize you have to download and install extra software just to do about anything, and you constantly have to tap into the online communities to figure even the simplest tasks out. Lots and lots of toil and effort on your part just getting the damn system to do anything productive.

[sishaw]

Ubuntu is quite a nicely packaged user-friendly form of Linux. It's not as slick as OS X, but then, what is? I found it good for websurfing, writing, music (Ogg Vorbis encoding of my own CDs), photo editing (once you get used to the GIMP, which has a different interface than Photoshop). I found it much less good for anything video, and I believe that has to do with copyrights.

To me, it all boils down to what you want to do with the computer. One thing about Ubuntu, and much more so other distros, is that if you don't want to use it as it comes out of the box, you have to learn how to use the command line and write some simple scripts. Once you do, it's very rewarding, if a bit arcane for us non-IT professionals. I would say it requires an interest or at least a willingness to figure things out; it's not the sort of operating system that you can just ignore.

I never got to the point where I could give up my Windows partition (this was on an old Windows computer I used to own) because there was always SOMETHING I had to have windows for, so I dual booted. One problem I ran into is that if I spent too much time in my Windows partition, I would start to forget whatever Linux tricks I'd learned.

If you like the ease of use of OS X, Ubuntu is probably the closest Linux you'll find. It's certainly worth playing with using the Live CD, if only to get a feel for what's possible outside of the commercial software box.

[sishaw]

Ubuntu (and any other Linux) is cool at first but the coolness quickly wears off once you realize you have to download and install extra software just to do about anything, and you constantly have to tap into the online communities to figure even the simplest tasks out. Lots and lots of toil and effort on your part just getting the damn system to do anything productive.

Ubuntu now comes packages with quite a bit of software, and Automatix will install most of the usual drivers and extras you need, so I'm not sure this is still correct.

What does tend to happen is, you want to find out what ELSE Linux can do, and then you're in trouble or on a fascinating journey, depending on your POV.

[MacRumorUser]

Shame I cant get it to work on my Macbook Pro or MacPro :( Both 7.04 Ubuntu & Kubuntu just hang and never boot up... :(

[FreakinSyco]

Shame I cant get it to work on my Macbook Pro or MacPro :( Both 7.04 Ubuntu & Kubuntu just hang and never boot up... :(

That sucks. Im dual booting Ubuntu and OSX (used bootcamp to do the partitioning). I need to use Ubuntu quite a bit for school so it was a neccesity for me to have them both. I mainly stick to OSX for computing at home... unless I just feel like messing around with things.. then its Ubuntu.

The 7.04 DVD image booted and installed flawlessly for me. Heres the tutorial I used for a reference to get everything up and going:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook

[sishaw]

Shame I cant get it to work on my Macbook Pro or MacPro :( Both 7.04 Ubuntu & Kubuntu just hang and never boot up... :(

Go on the user forum. It may be a simple matter. I recall that there's a way to start up in verbose mode so you can see what is making it hang, then you should be able to find the solution.

[-::ubermann::-]

i use suse on my macbook but soon ill install ubuntu i need to make more space

[clevin]

i use suse on my macbook but soon ill install ubuntu i need to make more space

I was using SUSE a year ago, I think Ubuntu is much faster than SUSE, and easier to use.

[bloodycape]

Kind of a related issues. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio and tried to burn the ISO using Toast 8. However, toast tries to burn the ISO as CD-ROM XA format(or file not really sure). So then I thought maybe I can burn it on my PC using Nero, it was working until it half way done and fails. So any ideas how I can get to burn with toast? Thank you.

[kalisphoenix]

I used to use Gentoo (http://www.gentoo.org/) religiously until I got my first iBook. I still use it, but only on my server (old PMacG4). OS X's too bloated for an old budget server. Gentoo's perfect.

[mkrishnan]

Kind of a related issues. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio and tried to burn the ISO using Toast 8. However, toast tries to burn the ISO as CD-ROM XA format(or file not really sure). So then I thought maybe I can burn it on my PC using Nero, it was working until it half way done and fails. So any ideas how I can get to burn with toast? Thank you.

What's wrong with burning it using Disk Utility, out of curiosity?

[clevin]

Kind of a related issues. I downloaded Ubuntu Studio and tried to burn the ISO using Toast 8. However, toast tries to burn the ISO as CD-ROM XA format(or file not really sure). So then I thought maybe I can burn it on my PC using Nero, it was working until it half way done and fails. So any ideas how I can get to burn with toast? Thank you.

get a free simplyburns (http://simplyburns.berlios.de/) and burn it as an image file to disk.
http://simplyburns.berlios.de/screenshots/SimplyBurns-rev180-StartupPanel.png

[bloodycape]

What's wrong with burning it using Disk Utility, out of curiosity?

Never thought of it that one. I usually burn my iso with Toast on my mac. But for some odd reason it keeps thinking it is a CD file and not a DVD file or something. Is this normal with Toast?

[psychofreak]

OK...tomorrow I am going to someone's house (his Windows box has seemingly unfixable software issues)...I will install Ubuntu.

He is not very computer savvy, and would like to have a package that works without messing with it. I would like someone to please give me a list / link to a list to all the things to install / download. He doesn't want Beryl. I have only used Ubuntu very briefly. No terminal should be needed for him after I have set it up. He tried setting it up, and then deleted it as he had no idea what to do.

I need (if possible, and if they're not included): Codecs (VLC for video, something for video in Firefox, MP3 and WAV support)

Something as close to iTunes as possible - at least until Songbird comes out, as its too buggy now

A way to get pictures from and music onto his Nokia N70

A torrent app

An unarchiving app

I'm not sure what Logitech mouse he has, but it has back and forward buttons, that apparently don't work straight away in Ubuntu

Any help is appreciated :)

[dpaanlka]

tomorrow I am going to someone's house tomorrow

So you're going to this person's house the day after tomorrow?

[psychofreak]

So you're going to this person's house the day after tomorrow?

Oops...

[b0redom]

I don't understand why guys want to install Ubuntu. Unless you have no resources running OSX - I would have to say that OSX presents the better desktop OS.

I use Windows, Redhat Enterprise, AIX and Solaris at work, and for me at least OSX has all the functionality of Linux with the slickness and pointy-clickiness of Windows.

Sure if you have a cheap Intel based PC Ubuntu might be a good intro to Linux, but if you're paying a premium for Apple kit and OSX why bother?

[psychofreak]

I don't understand why guys want to install Ubuntu. Unless you have no resources running OSX - I would have to say that OSX presents the better desktop OS.

I use Windows, Redhat Enterprise, AIX and Solaris at work, and for me at least OSX has all the functionality of Linux with the slickness and pointy-clickiness of Windows.

Sure if you have a cheap Intel based PC Ubuntu might be a good intro to Linux, but if you're paying a premium for Apple kit and OSX why bother?

If someone wants to do quite advanced photo editing for free, GIMP in Linux is better than it is in X11 for example. People like experimenting (Beryl is fun...)

[clevin]

I need (if possible, and if they're not included): Codecs (VLC for video, something for video in Firefox, MP3 and WAV support)

Something as close to iTunes as possible - at least until Songbird comes out, as its too buggy now

A way to get pictures from and music onto his Nokia N70

A torrent app

An unarchiving app

I'm not sure what Logitech mouse he has, but it has back and forward buttons, that apparently don't work straight away in Ubuntu

Any help is appreciated :)
dont worry codecs, the totem movie play is built-in, and it will download any codec u need when necessary, u just need to click ok.
of course. (play commercial DVD is different, u need to check ubuntu wiki, its not difficult, just not automatic)

music/podcast/stream management, try rhythmbox music player (built-in), or amarok (which i like, install through add/remove apps function), or banshee (which is similar to rhythmbox).
amarok
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/4665/screenshotxy0.png

rhythmbox
http://johnny.chadda.se/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/rhythmbox.png
be sure to go through add/remove app function from ubuntu's applications drop-down menu, it can meet most of your need.

add/remove has 3 or four bt apps, but best bt app is still uTorrent, u need to install wine to use it. (ps, u can install transmission, but u need to search google for a transmission deb package for ubuntu)
http://www.ubuntu.com/include/img/add-remove.png
unarchiving function is built-in, right click the compressed file and u can extract it from there.

Sure if you have a cheap Intel based PC Ubuntu might be a good intro to Linux, but if you're paying a premium for Apple kit and OSX why bother?
think about this, only way to get windows apps (like many games) running on osx w/o a VM is crossover, which cost $59. while for linux, u can save that 60 bucks.

there are many comparisons one can make between osx and linux. to assert osx being better is too rush, especially one individual with one ancient linux distro can not be fair at all.

[ezekielrage_99]

I noticed the other day that Dell is going to be shipping some laptop and desktop models with Ubuntu preinstalled and fully supported:
link 1 (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs)
link 2 (http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3674996)
I could be very interested if the price is right

That's great news for the Linux community :D