View Full Version : Battlefield 2142 Mac Version not working (crash log)
kkat69
Sep 5, 2007, 02:30 PM
I know for some 733t few the game seems to work fine, but for those of us who have been dealing with it crashing at start up (get the <close> <submit> <reopen> box) and the ingame video being f00ked, etc etc. Can we compare crash logs?
Background info and symptons:
System Info:
Model: iMac7,1, BootROM IM71.007A.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.8 GHz, 2 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro, ATI,RadeonHD2600, PCIe, 256 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 1 GB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 1 GB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
Symptons:
Crash at start up
InGame Video distorted but audio works
Resolution restricted (in bootCamp I have access to loads but that's also the windows version of bf2142)
lots of "BLUE" textures (in AppleStore reviews someone called BF2142, "Welcome To Waterworld")
Jerky mouse
Laggy as all get out.
My crash log shows the following (after a clean re-install and initial start of the game)
Date/Time: 2007-09-05 00:50:10.864 -0400
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R4031)
Report Version: 4
Command: cider
Path: /Applications/Battlefield 2142.app/Contents/Resources/Battlefield 2142.app/Contents/MacOS/cider
Parent: WindowServer [100]
Version: 1.25 (1)
Build Version: 485
Project Name: Cider
Source Version: 485
PID: 555
Thread: 1
Exception: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (0x0002)
Code[0]: 0x0000000d
Code[1]: 0x00000000
Thread 0:
..... bla bla
Thread 1 Crashed:
0 libntdll.dylib 0x10a7d465 wine_server_call + 233
1 libntdll.dylib 0x10a82827 __wine_recv_unix_signal + 78
2 libntdll.dylib 0x10a1fd48 usr1_handler + 80
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9011072c _sigtramp + 49
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009cd7 mach_msg_trap + 7
5 com.unsanity.ape 0xc0001d48 __ape_agent + 307
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024227 _pthread_body + 84
Thread 2:
..... bla bla
Thread 3:
..... bla bla
Thread 4:
..... bla bla
Thread 5:
..... bla bla
Thread 6:
..... bla bla
Thread 1 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x10a7d38d ecx: 0xb009da80 edx: 0x9006529c
edi: 0xb009daec esi: 0xb009db24 ebp: 0xb009da68 esp: 0xb009d9c0
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x10a7d465 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
Luap
Sep 5, 2007, 04:12 PM
You might want to check this thread.. Seems similar?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=349235
Basically, there is a known issue with these new iMacs, and at present they don't get along with many popular games. Usually the crash brings down the entire mac. Although its actually the graphics system crying enough, which makes the mac appear that it has frozen solid. But more often than not, it hasnt. Even if the end result is much the same.
I dont think it is any hardware fault. So will mostly likely be fixed in a software update at some point. Perhaps 10.4.11
I could be wrong of course.. but thats my take on it.
kkat69
Sep 5, 2007, 04:24 PM
You might want to check this thread.. Seems similar?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=349235
Basically, there is a known issue with these new iMacs, and at present they don't get along with many popular games. Usually the crash brings down the entire mac. Although its actually the graphics system crying enough, which makes the mac appear that it has frozen solid. But more often than not, it hasnt. Even if the end result is much the same.
I dont think it is any hardware fault. So will mostly likely be fixed in a software update at some point. Perhaps 10.4.11
I could be wrong of course.. but thats my take on it.
Good to know, I'll repost this in the BF forums as well. Might be a workaround somewhere or at least shed some beacon of hope for us that are disgusted with the port of the game.
TrickyX
Sep 5, 2007, 08:13 PM
You might want to check this thread.. Seems similar?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=349235
Basically, there is a known issue with these new iMacs, and at present they don't get along with many popular games. Usually the crash brings down the entire mac. Although its actually the graphics system crying enough, which makes the mac appear that it has frozen solid. But more often than not, it hasnt. Even if the end result is much the same.
I dont think it is any hardware fault. So will mostly likely be fixed in a software update at some point. Perhaps 10.4.11
I could be wrong of course.. but thats my take on it.
What a freaking joke. They have what.. Like 5 different computers to test on? Vs like 10 billion combos of parts and cards on Windows machines. They did a really sad job on this and I hope that either Cider gets to offering 100% performance of DirectX or they earn there money, charging us premium prices for these games, that are half a$$ ports. They need to either port them propertly, or resolve the issues with Cider. BF2142 at this point is 10x better in Windows. Pisses me off as I paid for the PC version, then paid 40 bucks for the Mac version, which runs like crap in comparision and the PC version is only 20 bucks now.
EA sucks..
kkat69
Sep 5, 2007, 08:40 PM
What a freaking joke. They have what.. Like 5 different computers to test on? Vs like 10 billion combos of parts and cards on Windows machines. They did a really sad job on this and I hope that either Cider gets to offering 100% performance of DirectX or they earn there money, charging us premium prices for these games, that are half a$$ ports. They need to either port them propertly, or resolve the issues with Cider. BF2142 at this point is 10x better in Windows. Pisses me off as I paid for the PC version, then paid 40 bucks for the Mac version, which runs like crap in comparision and the PC version is only 20 bucks now.
EA sucks..
Although I think it might be a driver issue on the new iMacs seeing as how other ppl on older systems say some of these "cider" games run fine. I do agree with your response.
Cider to me is a glorified Wine (for those that know what wine is for linux) and wine was and always in an opensource constant state of development. Let me say that again "constant state of development."
What EA should have done was gone back to Aspyre and had them port the games properly to a native code like other games aspyre was contracted to do.
Wine is something I can download for free, not pay 40 bucks for someone to setup for me to run a windows game in a non windows environment.
Bottom line, I want to play this on mac so I dont have to boot camp (even boot camping isn't working well and I think it's the video drivers again) but would rather play it natively like I should be.
Been playing around with settings in Cider AND BF and still no luck. even played singleplayer mode with default video settings (fresh install and not modifying in game options) and it was like I was playing errr walking around on hot lava. There was nothing but RED all over the place.
Def something really wrong here.
Lock
Sep 7, 2007, 05:10 PM
I'm also disgusted with this game. I have yet to finish a full round of solo play and I've only managed to run about 10 ft in mutiplayer before it crashed. It crashes on startup, it crashes in the menus, it crashes in game. Usually I can force quit, but once it needed a reboot. The quality of this "port" is just unacceptable; I honestly can't believed they shipped this piece of junk.
If the situation doesn't improve I'm just going to give up and go back to playing bf1942, which is depressing because I'll be back on my powermac and not using my shiny new laptop.
pprior
Sep 7, 2007, 09:17 PM
The multiplayer problem may be with the punkbuster client - I was unable to play until someone showed me how to manually update the client via going to their website (punkbuster). Since I got that fixed it runs just fine in multiplayer.
overcast
Sep 7, 2007, 09:33 PM
Although I think it might be a driver issue on the new iMacs seeing as how other ppl on older systems say some of these "cider" games run fine. I do agree with your response.
Cider to me is a glorified Wine (for those that know what wine is for linux) and wine was and always in an opensource constant state of development. Let me say that again "constant state of development."
What EA should have done was gone back to Aspyre and had them port the games properly to a native code like other games aspyre was contracted to do.
Wine is something I can download for free, not pay 40 bucks for someone to setup for me to run a windows game in a non windows environment.
Bottom line, I want to play this on mac so I dont have to boot camp (even boot camping isn't working well and I think it's the video drivers again) but would rather play it natively like I should be.
Been playing around with settings in Cider AND BF and still no luck. even played singleplayer mode with default video settings (fresh install and not modifying in game options) and it was like I was playing errr walking around on hot lava. There was nothing but RED all over the place.
Def something really wrong here.
What do you think CIDER is, it's a Wine library for Apple Intel machines. Literally.
ViperDesign
Sep 7, 2007, 11:45 PM
It's EA, seriously do they EVER turn out a finished working product? I really don't know how this company continues to make money with the crap they put out in the market.
kkat69
Sep 8, 2007, 11:07 AM
It's EA, seriously do they EVER turn out a finished working product? I really don't know how this company continues to make money with the crap they put out in the market.
Actually it's APE. Application Enhancer program that sometimes comes packaged with several other apps.
It was causing the initial crash.
The graphics issues are actually noted with Apple themselves. The new ATI drivers are causing the bulk of many peoples problems not only this game but also with WoW, UT2k4, and a few others.
Some games like Prey run just fine (using newer dx10 technology) but not previous dx9 type games.
also this is mainly hitting the newer iMac's and not older ones which run the game better.
Until Apple puts out newer drivers or Cider/Ea come up with a patch this game is almost unplayable in OSX.
Disapointing really but fortunately I have the windows version and bootcamp to play. Even there I get rare crashes due to the ati drivers that got ported to windows from osx.
So it's not really EA, but unfortunately their lack of written support on this matter would make them look guilty, it would be a combination of all 3 companies together. Apple, Ea, and Cider. Personally this should have been a proper native port rather than a Wine emulator port.
Lock
Sep 8, 2007, 12:45 PM
The multiplayer problem may be with the punkbuster client - I was unable to play until someone showed me how to manually update the client via going to their website (punkbuster). Since I got that fixed it runs just fine in multiplayer.
Thanks, that seemed to do the trick.
soulvoid
Sep 8, 2007, 03:28 PM
Funny I ran accross this thread.
Before i even got 2142 for osx i had a buddy who kinda played his bf2142 on his windows machine. Well so he gave me his install dvd for my bootcamp partition. Little did i know EA made it where you had to have an account to login to 2142 now. Not just a good cd key. So i NEVER got to play 2142 on my windows bootcamp partition.
So i was in the apple store the other day and picked up 2142 for my mbp thinking sweet! No more bootcamp crap and i can actually play now.
So i install 2142 to my mac. Load it up. Everything loaded good but the performance was HORRIBLE. Not to mention the fact that the res of the game would only go to like 1280x760 or something so i had a 4:3 picture on a widescreen mbp.
Needless to say i was very very dissapointed.
So i thought to myself....Hey... I wonder if i can use this cd key for my previous 2142 install in my bootcamp windows version.
Rebooted, loaded in my cd key. Updated 2142 to 1.25version. And it runs like a D R E A M!
It runs SOO much better in windows its not even funny.
The only downside is having to reboot to windows every time but oh well.
CIDER has dissapointed me with their performance so far.
CharlieX
Sep 10, 2007, 12:29 PM
POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR MACBOOK PRO!
I haven't narrowed it down completely, my method involved changing a lot of things at once, but I've gotten it to run without any crashes for over 2 hours of play:
Opened the "config" file in it's Preferences folder. Under sdldrv it set 'screendepth' to 16 and "displaysettingsdialong" to 1.
When it starts you get a CIDER options dialog. I turned OFF "FBO Backbuffer"
Still crashed.
Then I plugged in my 23" Cinema to the DVI port and played Battlefield off it. Turned the resolution to 1900x1200 and defaults to Low. Getting about 40fps. But it PLAYS!
Obviously I need to retrace my steps and find the point where things break up again. I have a feeling it all about the external monitor and the resolution. I read a thread where someone had switched their 24" display for a 17" and it worked.
MBP 2.4/Core 2 Duo
4GB RAM
Nvidia GeForce 8600M w/ 256MB
23" Apple Cinema
10.4.10
drumminelsewher
Sep 14, 2007, 02:03 PM
Ok I'm in the same boat but with different issues.
I have a macbook pro 17 inch with 2 gigs of ram
My graphics card is a GeForce 8600M GT
So I bought the game, couldn't wait man. I have bose 5 series computer speakers and couldn't wait to hear this game in it's glory. Only problem is the game WON'T WORK WITH MY SPEAKERS. It's all fuzzy and sounds terrible. I tried every configuration and e-mail EA and they simply said "we know we're having problems with usb speakers, nothing we can do". Ok so I still have my bose headphones, they'll do.
As I play the first level I notice that there aren't any buildings..."no problem" must be a bland map. Then I start running in to "invisible" boundaries....maybe because it's so futuristic I say? So I try another map, same thing, then I go online, same thing. I can't see any buildings!
Also trying to find the patch for mac I think is impossible. Everything is for windows on the EA site..I don't what to do.
kkat69
Sep 14, 2007, 02:48 PM
Also trying to find the patch for mac I think is impossible. Everything is for windows on the EA site..I don't what to do.
That's because there isn't one. BF2142 is pre-patched to 1.25 and it's wrapped in a Virtual machine emulator called CIDER.
What your experiencing sounds like the graphis for those objects either haven't had time to load or are refusing to load or whatever.
I would try (try being the operative word) contacting EA, creating a ticket, make sure to take screenshots of this since they just might ask, also your system profiler in a text format will help as well. Plus any cider.crash.log files you find.
drumminelsewher
Sep 14, 2007, 05:21 PM
That's because there isn't one. BF2142 is pre-patched to 1.25 and it's wrapped in a Virtual machine emulator called CIDER.
What your experiencing sounds like the graphis for those objects either haven't had time to load or are refusing to load or whatever.
I would try (try being the operative word) contacting EA, creating a ticket, make sure to take screenshots of this since they just might ask, also your system profiler in a text format will help as well. Plus any cider.crash.log files you find.
A virtual emulator? I'm sorry but I'm lost....if you could explain that'd be awesome.
I contacted them and they asked me to send them the complete specs of my computer. We will see what they say.
kkat69
Sep 15, 2007, 12:18 AM
A virtual emulator? I'm sorry but I'm lost....if you could explain that'd be awesome.
I contacted them and they asked me to send them the complete specs of my computer. We will see what they say.
CIDER is a wrapper that allows windows exe's to run in the OSX environment. They have a similar vm/wrapper for linux type environments.
drumminelsewher
Sep 15, 2007, 07:05 PM
CIDER is a wrapper that allows windows exe's to run in the OSX environment. They have a similar vm/wrapper for linux type environments.
Ah that makes sense, so is this why there are so many glitches?
kkat69
Sep 15, 2007, 11:17 PM
Ah that makes sense, so is this why there are so many glitches?
I think that might be part of it.
IMO I think it's a combination of Apple's ATI drivers, CIDER's wrapper, and EA's poor decision to use a wrapped game rather than have a company like Aspyr create native ports which would allow the game to run just as well as it's windows counterpart.
Since Aspyr has written several of EA games before I'm surprised they didn't do this one. Who knows.
Personally I'm holding out for this game to work sooner or later. I still have my windows version and Leopard is around the corner so we might see some improvements with graphics drivers and handling.
kkat69
Sep 16, 2007, 09:18 PM
For those of you who don't know or don't understand the new Alum iMacs troubles running BF2142, I wanted to share some screenshots (these were also sent to EA, the response was "we might not have an answer for you on this anytime soon" which was a little unnerving.)
Pre 1.0 Mac Update (locks up everytime not playable at all):
http://gallery.mac.com/kehlebracht/100097/Picture-202/web.jpg
Post 1.0 update and Post 1.1 update (no change):
so good so far...
http://gallery.mac.com/kehlebracht/100097/Graphics-20ok-20here/web.jpg
ohhhhh snap, WTH?
http://gallery.mac.com/kehlebracht/100097/wonder-20if-20his-20feet-20are-20melting/web.jpg
Just wanted to share these with the forums.
FYI there was no difference between windowed and full screen.
drumminelsewher
Sep 18, 2007, 12:13 PM
So far it's been 3 days without a word from EA games about my problems. This is just a real nightmare man, I spent 40 bucks on this game and haven't played it since.
kkat69
Sep 18, 2007, 09:26 PM
So far it's been 3 days without a word from EA games about my problems. This is just a real nightmare man, I spent 40 bucks on this game and haven't played it since.
I hear yah. Here's the last msg from the tech support from EA:
Response (Alex I.) 09/14/2007 11:22 AM
Greetings,
We might not have a solution for this right away, but I will forward along all these details.
drumminelsewher
Sep 19, 2007, 08:00 AM
well after finally getting back to me, they told me to set my video settings to low.
After doing that it fixed the problem but it's frustrating because I have to run this game in the lowest settings? I bought a 3 thousand dollar computer to run this game in the lowest setting possible......
Also the problem with my speakers is for all EA games I found out so that REALLY sucks.
kkat69
Sep 19, 2007, 10:07 AM
well after finally getting back to me, they told me to set my video settings to low.
After doing that it fixed the problem but it's frustrating because I have to run this game in the lowest settings? I bought a 3 thousand dollar computer to run this game in the lowest setting possible......
Also the problem with my speakers is for all EA games I found out so that REALLY sucks.
what you see in my screenshots above ARE the lowest settings on my machine.
noah03ark@hotma
Sep 22, 2007, 01:48 AM
on the macbook pro thing, i took charlie's advice and set the thing in the config to '1' and that is the farthest ive gotten: it has the battlefield logo, but it then says please unload the debugger...how do i fix this?
thanks
mackster
Sep 27, 2007, 12:37 PM
I have a 15'' Mac Book Pro and seem to be having similar problems. So far I've gotten to the actual game once and have really been enjoying the menus before they crash. I usually am able to get to the sign in part and I'm lucky to get past that. I also used to play games on Boot Camp but that started messing up recently and can't anymore, don't know if the two are related.
jrm16311
Sep 29, 2007, 09:55 AM
I have a 24 inch 2.4 iMac.
None of the start up screens show up, but I can get to the game login page by pressing the ESC key. I can play the game just fine, and haven't had any problems with my graphics or my audio as far as I can tell. The screen flickers and I get like a "bad video" feed when I get shot with the "blue electric shock" thingy (obviously i'm a total noob at the game) when in a vehicle. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a game effect of if its a video problem, but its no bigdeal.
The real problems comes with quitting the game. I have yet to quit a game and not have my Mac crash on me. This happens everytime, black screen with the mouse pointer visible. I tried every keyboard shortcut combo to force quit, restart, shutdown etc and none work. The only solution is to pull the plug, which I would rather avoid.
I hope the fix comes out soon, this game seems to be loads of fun.
pprior
Oct 1, 2007, 06:12 PM
All of a sudden , I can't get a game to load, it will start loading map and then about 2/3 of the way through it will either lock up whole machine or if I'm lucky dump me to the desktop - it's happened at least 5 times in a row now.
Where/how do I find a crashlog for this game to check and see what is going on?
TJIrwin
Oct 1, 2007, 08:22 PM
I'm starting to have the same problem. Crash on the load screen between 50-75%. Started about 10 days ago after otherwise flawless gameplay at decent enough graphics settings. Slightly annoying to say the least. Only connecting about 1 in 10 attempts now, and mid game crashes seem to be a hell of a lot more regular.
Haven't been able to work out the issue as yet. Seemingly came out of nowhere. Perfect performance in the morning before work, didn't work when I came back that evening.
rlvdijk
Oct 12, 2007, 08:36 AM
Hi,
I can't play BF 2142 in any resolution higher than 1024x768. I've tried to change the settings in the .con files, but it doesn't work.
I also renamed the .bik files for skipping the crappy intro's (black-flickering-screens).
Any suggestions for running BF2142 in higher resolutions ? I've read that a few of you can actually play at 1900x1200 or 1280x760...
I've got a new iMac (aluminium) with 256Mb video and 1Gb RAM.
kkat69
Oct 12, 2007, 09:05 AM
Hi,
I can't play BF 2142 in any resolution higher than 1024x768. I've tried to change the settings in the .con files, but it doesn't work.
I also renamed the .bik files for skipping the crappy intro's (black-flickering-screens).
Any suggestions for running BF2142 in higher resolutions ? I've read that a few of you can actually play at 1900x1200 or 1280x760...
I've got a new iMac (aluminium) with 256Mb video and 1Gb RAM.
Native in OSX on the new Alum iMacs, there hasn't been a notable way to get the resolution higher since apparently either BF/Cider incorrectly pulls the video card info or the video card/driver is not reporting the resolutions properly to BF/Cider.
You can't force it via .config file as someone else suggested, neither myself nor an Apple Genius could get that to work. Maybe on other mac systems but on the new alum iMacs resolution was bad.
If you hook up an external monitor either cinema display or another monitor and make it your primary you can probably get higher resolutions but not on the newer iMac as the primary.
spyker3292
Oct 13, 2007, 02:06 PM
Although I think it might be a driver issue on the new iMacs seeing as how other ppl on older systems say some of these "cider" games run fine. I do agree with your response.
It's not the new iMacs, works fine on mine. How do you get it windowed? Then I would record a little video of it working fine.
caseydude
Oct 24, 2007, 02:32 PM
I think it is the new imacs got my Battlefield 2142 game today and it will not run freezes back to desktop and says please make sure disk is in( and the disk is in) darn Imac!:mad:
spyker3292
Oct 24, 2007, 02:58 PM
I think it is the new imacs got my Battlefield 2142 game today and it will not run freezes back to desktop and says please make sure disk is in( and the disk is in) darn Imac!:mad:
Oh, I got that the first 3 times, just keep on trying and force quit things in the activity monitor (specifically cider or wine related things)
kkat69
Oct 24, 2007, 03:13 PM
It's not the new iMacs, works fine on mine. How do you get it windowed? Then I would record a little video of it working fine.
It is the new iMacs, confirmed by several sources. It has to do with the ATI card drivers.
Running windowed and taking a video won't prove much, run it while making a video of it running showing your system and maybe I'll buy it.
I can easily load it in windows and take a video and say "see it runs on the new iMacs"
We're talking about OSX native as well, in Bootcamp it runs just fine. That's also WINDOWS on the new iMac. OSX and the ATI Drivers in iMac don't work together properly and produce shabby graphics.
It's proven by other games as well. Straight out the box, brand new iMac, updated to 1.0 (and 1.1 and as far as that goes, even factory drivers) BF2142 has shoddy textures and game glitching to high heaven. Factory drivers lock the game completely, 1.1 and your 50/50 the game will lock AND the textures are still messed up, 1.0 graphically is still the same as 1.1 but without the constant lock ups.
There's a fix on the way as announced by Apple, I 'CANT' say much more than that (hint hint).
caseydude
Oct 24, 2007, 03:18 PM
ok stupid question time are the new Alu Imacs g-5 systems?
kkat69
Oct 24, 2007, 03:55 PM
ok stupid question time are the new Alu Imacs g-5 systems?
Unless I'm mistaken G5 iMacs are the white ones ( I could be wrong, I just refer to them as iMac, the other white meat LOL). Those have nVidia cards in them.
the Al iMacs have ATI 2400/2600 HD cards which are commonly referred to that I've seen as Al iMacs (Al standing for Aluminum sp*).
caseydude
Oct 24, 2007, 04:03 PM
Unless I'm mistaken G5 iMacs are the white ones ( I could be wrong, I just refer to them as iMac, the other white meat LOL). Those have nVidia cards in them.
the Al iMacs have ATI 2400/2600 HD cards which are commonly referred to that I've seen as Al iMacs (Al standing for Aluminum sp*).
Ok thanks,I was thinking maybe that would explain why I cant get Battlefield 2142 to run,it says on the Apple site that it will not run on g3 g4 g5 systems.
kkat69
Oct 24, 2007, 04:24 PM
Ok thanks,I was thinking maybe that would explain why I cant get Battlefield 2142 to run,it says on the Apple site that it will not run on g3 g4 g5 systems.
There are a few known (some of which aren't documented well) issues with and in particular BF2142 and the new Alum iMacs with the ATI graphics cards.
1. Application Enhancer - If you have this installed (check your system preferences) it will cause your BF2142 to crash yet you can still play it however it will hang the wineserver app and you need to kill that process in order to start the game a 2nd time.
2. Punkbuster doesn't update properly - I have never had this issue but people have reported this to be an issue on the Mac version of the game. I don't have links but the EA Mac forums has one post on it that can help (http://forums.ea.com/mboards/forum.jspa?forumID=4166) Yes we have a specific forums for BF2142 now.
3. Graphical glitches (Textures) - This is the one I've been most following as it was noticed when I first bought the game for Mac. Bootcamp it works fine but in OSX depending on the map you'll get different textures (See pictures in this thread). This is being worked on at the present. I can't comment on this to much but it IS being worked on by Apple.
4. Shoddy performance - Glitch jumping, bad response with mouse. Probably fixed with next patch or even new graphic drivers may or may not help. It seems like graphic lag more than anything.
spyker3292
Oct 24, 2007, 05:32 PM
It is the new iMacs, confirmed by several sources. It has to do with the ATI card drivers.
Running windowed and taking a video won't prove much, run it while making a video of it running showing your system and maybe I'll buy it.
I can easily load it in windows and take a video and say "see it runs on the new iMacs"
We're talking about OSX native as well, in Bootcamp it runs just fine. That's also WINDOWS on the new iMac. OSX and the ATI Drivers in iMac don't work together properly and produce shabby graphics.
It's proven by other games as well. Straight out the box, brand new iMac, updated to 1.0 (and 1.1 and as far as that goes, even factory drivers) BF2142 has shoddy textures and game glitching to high heaven. Factory drivers lock the game completely, 1.1 and your 50/50 the game will lock AND the textures are still messed up, 1.0 graphically is still the same as 1.1 but without the constant lock ups.
There's a fix on the way as announced by Apple, I 'CANT' say much more than that (hint hint).
Well... since no one believes me. I will use my old video camera to take a video of it with the computer in the video :).
synth3tik
Oct 24, 2007, 05:33 PM
I gave up on the game. EA support was a stupid as the game.
spyker3292
Oct 24, 2007, 06:04 PM
It is processing
....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heiTOEHAFM
kkat69
Oct 24, 2007, 06:37 PM
Well... since no one believes me. I will use my old video camera to take a video of it with the computer in the video :).
I can play it, so I honestly don't care if you can. I know there are issues with the game. Factory drivers, 1.0 drivers AND 1.1 drivers. I know they are there, Apple knows they are there, EA knows they are there but that doesn't mean I CAN'T play the game. I CAN if I can tolerate the graphics and graphic jerks.
If it works on yours so be it. Maybe you have a magical machine. What you just described above would prove and what I was trying to say needed to be done. ANyone can shoot in game footage and claim it on any machine.
I can do the same and show it running as well, I can also show you the issues with it. I never said it 100% does NOT work.
Also it has to be (and stress this) legitimate store bought mac version not the pre-beta release or a hacked cider copy using the current cider hack to get windows games working.
kkat69
Oct 24, 2007, 06:41 PM
It is processing
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heiTOEHAFM
From your video and the way it appears looks like you suffer from the same things I've been complaining about and Apple is working on.
Thanks for posting that, I can show that to Apple as well.
caseydude
Oct 24, 2007, 09:32 PM
well from that video it looks like it has the same driver problems but at least it loaded
spyker3292
Oct 24, 2007, 09:36 PM
From your video and the way it appears looks like you suffer from the same things I've been complaining about and Apple is working on.
Thanks for posting that, I can show that to Apple as well.
I suffer from not being able to see the EA logo at the beginning? That's the only problem. Nothing else is wrong, there is the standard spawn lag but that's normal. I also tried to die ASAP for the video, I got lucky that some guy shot me :D.
caseydude
Oct 24, 2007, 09:39 PM
I suffer from not being able to see the EA logo at the beginning? That's the only problem. Nothing else is wrong, there is the standard spawn lag but that's normal. I also tried to die ASAP for the video, I got lucky that some guy shot me :D.
Do you have all of the software (apple) upgrades installed or not?
kkat69
Oct 24, 2007, 09:56 PM
I suffer from not being able to see the EA logo at the beginning? That's the only problem. Nothing else is wrong, there is the standard spawn lag but that's normal. I also tried to die ASAP for the video, I got lucky that some guy shot me :D.
The videos in the beginning are also a known issue. You can download a bink player to view them but I just deleted them since after playing for so long they're rather annoying now. You'll need to show contents of the Battlefield 2142.app then open "Contents\Resouces" then do show contents again on the Battlefield 2142.app there then go "Contents\Resources\transgaming\c_drive\" from there I think you can find your way around, it's pretty basic. You'll need to go into the "mods\bf2142\movies" then delete the files.
Now rather than show probably the only map that isn't totally affected, try showing more maps.
Trust me man, I know there's issues with this game and the new iMacs. I can't say much about it yet but there is.
Here's my YouTube showing the 'OTHER' maps since you only showed one. I even included the Camp map that does work, or at least works most of the time.
Again I never said it 100% did NOT work. When you see the video (it's being played using 1.0 drivers and the game still crashes) you'll see yes I can play, but who wants to play with graphics like this.
I start out with medium settings, then move up to high settings, no AA or anything since that adds mondo lag. But you can see maps like Sidi, Suez are botched to high heaven, Minsk as well, Camp works ok most of the time. Cerbere is one that works sometimes, but also suffers depending on your graphics settings.
I even did Minsk at high settings and it still suffered. These issues are known and according to official Apple a driver fix is on the way. I can't go beyond that.
UGGGGG still uploading, I'll post the link in a bit
Ok here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r7iTkHkzUg
Quality stinks due to poor lighting in my office and I had the brightness turned down on the iMac.
Zephyr5000
Oct 29, 2007, 12:50 AM
If it's any help I have figured out how to quit BattleField 2142 without a system freeze or crash. When done playing click the grey box on the top right of the screen to logout of your account then click the grey box once again. I find this works 90% of the time. Hope this helps you.
Terasaka
Mar 18, 2008, 09:34 AM
This was posted on the EA forums, and seems to have fixed my problems:
To any Mac users encountering this problem, load and login, go in to the Community tab, click custom game, and launch the most recent item I had to do it twice, because the game froze when it was rebooting, and I ran into the "Losing Key Packets" error. If this happens, just do it again, and it should be fine.
pprior
Mar 21, 2008, 11:51 AM
This was posted on the EA forums, and seems to have fixed my problems:
To any Mac users encountering this problem, load and login, go in to the Community tab, click custom game, and launch the most recent item I had to do it twice, because the game froze when it was rebooting, and I ran into the "Losing Key Packets" error. If this happens, just do it again, and it should be fine.
My son's imac was having the "map loading partway and then freezing" problem, and I tried this and it fixed it.
I'm not sure exactly what it does, but thanks so much. I never even knew that was there.
Anyone else?
Terasaka
Mar 21, 2008, 07:16 PM
My guess as to why this happens is perhaps during a map download, maybe a small map mod is downloaded to our computers. Maybe a Punkbuster update? That leads to the first lock, and then leads to repeat map load locking following. Maybe it's a mod that only works on the PC side (forgive me Father, for I have invoked) and not the Mac side.
In any case, reloading the patched game likely wipes the mod, and leads to it loading correctly.
In any case, thank goodness it works because it was driving me crazy.
vanduym
Jan 26, 2009, 04:03 PM
I really love BF2142 (much to the chagrin of my wife). However, in the last couple of days I can't play the multiplayer version without the iMac freezing up entirely after about 5 minutes. I have to reboot to get back control of my iMac. I think this has something to do with PunkBuster. About every six months PunkBuster changes settings and it messes with Macs playing this game. Are there any other BF2142 Mac users with this same problem? I can play the single player version without issue. The program loads without issue as well.
Less Exciting
Jan 26, 2009, 05:42 PM
To the above poster:
On my community forums, everyone with a mac has been reporting crashes in game within about 5 minutes. I originally thought it was probably punkbuster, but now think it may be perhaps something to do with the latest quicktime update.
If anyone has any info regarding this, please post here. I'm going to contact evenbalance or anyone else that may be able to help and try and work it out.
Bernd
Jan 26, 2009, 07:00 PM
aspyr has been having problems with about 1/2 of their games with the quicktime update. say they are working on it with apple. see the civ 3/4 crashing thread. also see some of the followup posts on the Apple support forums linked in the thread.
Thelonepiper
Jan 26, 2009, 07:31 PM
I've been having a different crash issue. Whenever I try and play a game (single player OR multiplayer), the game loads successfully, but when I come to the weapons select menu, the mouse icon is frozen to the center of the screen. can't select anything, and the game has started. All I can do is quit the game. Anyone know what the problem might be?
pprior
Jan 27, 2009, 10:27 AM
To the above poster:
On my community forums, everyone with a mac has been reporting crashes in game within about 5 minutes. I originally thought it was probably punkbuster, but now think it may be perhaps something to do with the latest quicktime update.
If anyone has any info regarding this, please post here. I'm going to contact evenbalance or anyone else that may be able to help and try and work it out.
I also have had major problems. to the point where I have to hard reset the computer.
shoie2
Jan 27, 2009, 08:54 PM
My BF2142 started freezing a few days ago, usually within a few minutes of starting a round. I reinstalled and manually updated Punkbuster. Didn't help. The only changes to my mac were recent updates to Safari and Logic Pro but since other people seem to be having the same problem, doubt that's it. Please post a solution if you hear one.
natty3187
Jan 28, 2009, 07:57 AM
I've had the same problems. Originally I thought it was a punkbuster thing, but after updating to the latest files, the problem still persisted. I haven't updated the quicktime patch yet so I'm not sure if that is what is causing the problem either. I've contacted evenbalance.com and also EA. I'll post back here if I get any response
Natty
natty3187
Jan 29, 2009, 08:23 AM
I heard back from the punk buster people and they simply pointed me to down load the latest version of the client.
That didnt work
I was speaking to some of the guys in my clan and one suggested to turn down the video settings to LOW.
That worked! no more freezes!
I played pretty much a whole round without a freeze. Can someone please try it to verify this fix
Thanks
vanduym
Jan 29, 2009, 10:10 AM
Natty,
I tried your suggestion. I went from high settings to medium settings to low settings. My system froze every time within 5 minutes of playing multiplayer mode. I think it really has to do with the QuickTime player upgrade. Everything worked great till I auto upgraded to the latest version of QuickTime player. Since then the game won't play in multiplayer mode any longer.
Less Exciting
Jan 29, 2009, 12:11 PM
Natty,
I tried your suggestion. I went from high settings to medium settings to low settings. My system froze every time within 5 minutes of playing multiplayer mode. I think it really has to do with the QuickTime player upgrade. Everything worked great till I auto upgraded to the latest version of QuickTime player. Since then the game won't play in multiplayer mode any longer.
I don't think the graphics options will change anything. Probably just a fluke somehow?
Regarding quicktime, I've been discussing the issue on my community's forums, and the crashes are happening simultaneously with PC users, so it can't be quicktime. The ability to play on single player with no issue supports this.
Thus, it is a punkbuster issue. My even balance ticket told me to just install the latest punkbuster. I have done this in the past, and it just does not do anything. Plus, evenbalance's pbsetup application does absolutely nothing.
If anyone has any luck, please post.
vanduym
Jan 29, 2009, 06:07 PM
Here is what EA support told me after running me through some basic configuration questions and tests -
Thank you for contacting EA Game support.
Due to the nature of your issue, more time is required for investigation. I apologize for any prolonged delays this might cause, but please rest assured that we are trying to handle your issue in a timely manner.
We appreciate the opportunity to assist you and look forward to getting you back in the game!
Thank you,
EA Rep Rafael
Player Relations EA.
I'll update everyone if I find a solution from EA. Less Exciting is probably right that its a Punkbuster issue. Especially if its affecting PCs and Macs in this game. In my brief one year experience with this game, if there ever is an issue its always with Punkbuster.
natty3187
Jan 30, 2009, 03:47 AM
Thanks for giving it a try and posting your results
I'm not sure if its the quicktime upgrade because on my system, the freezes were happening before I decided to upgrade......
natty3187
Jan 30, 2009, 04:18 AM
I went online again with the lower video settings and it froze!
Sorry to get everyone's hopes up!
I called apple and they told me to clear out the caches, which I did, but it hasnt helped either.
They recommended to reinstall the game, has anyone tried this?
Also I'm thinking that perhaps this isnt a video/driver/punkbuster problem, but perhaps something has changed on the servers that affects the way the game talks to our macs.....
opus138
Jan 31, 2009, 09:16 AM
I don't believe it is a Punkbuster-related issue -- the last PB updated file was November.
I'm getting the same issue as anyone else: My computer freezes up anywhere from 20 seconds into the game to 20 minutes. The screen locks and the sound locks. I have to hard-restart my computer.
I had an issue back in November with the PB update - back then, the game would just kick me out of the server, no lock-up happened.
I got on the horn with Apple Support about trying to revert to an older version of QT. I was told that the only way to do that was to reinstall the OS, and when prompted with updates, don't update QT - just go to apple.com and download the previous version.
Ugh...
Less Exciting
Jan 31, 2009, 09:38 AM
I don't believe it is a Punkbuster-related issue -- the last PB updated file was November.
I'm getting the same issue as anyone else: My computer freezes up anywhere from 20 seconds into the game to 20 minutes. The screen locks and the sound locks. I have to hard-restart my computer.
I had an issue back in November with the PB update - back then, the game would just kick me out of the server, no lock-up happened.
I got on the horn with Apple Support about trying to revert to an older version of QT. I was told that the only way to do that was to reinstall the OS, and when prompted with updates, don't update QT - just go to apple.com and download the previous version.
Ugh...
It's not quicktime. Playing single player with no problems indicates this. The problem is also occurring on windows machines as well.
PB was updated in november, which is quite far away now, so I'm not to sure about it either. But going on past experience, PB is usually the culprit.
Others have suggested that it's an EA master server issue. I'm not sure how one would test this.
pprior
Jan 31, 2009, 08:52 PM
I have been getting audio lockups tonight - play for maybe a few minutes (10 or so max) and then it will loop audio (same sound over and over) and the whole game locks up - have to command-option-escape to quit.
Man this is annoying. I really hate ea support (non existent)
opus138
Feb 1, 2009, 11:36 AM
It's not quicktime. Playing single player with no problems indicates this.
Unless it's something to do with how servers interact with QT that is causing the issue, then it could be QT.
The problem is also occurring on windows machines as well.
That's the first I've heard of that. The folks I play with are all PC owners and they've had zero problems.
nickarmadillo
Feb 3, 2009, 10:00 AM
I'm getting the same problem, but I have not installed either of the last 2 QT updates. This leads me to believe that it is a Punk Buster issue.
vanduym
Feb 3, 2009, 02:38 PM
I didn't upgrade anything or change my settings BUT... THE GAME IS BACK ON! I played four rounds on multiplayer without issue. I didn't change Punkbuster, QT or anything else. I just waited and whatever someone was doing I'm BACK and playing again without issue. You might want to try it for yourself. YEAH!
remorce
Feb 3, 2009, 04:59 PM
Idk if it has been fixed yet (above post) But im pretty sure that it is punkbuster related. I can play forever on a non-punkbuster server. Punkbuster server = Freeze with looping sound within minutes.
shoie2
Feb 3, 2009, 09:42 PM
I got mine working again. Under audio options switch the audio rendering to "hardware" from "software". That seemed to do the trick. No idea why but it hasn't frozen in-game since then. Maybe just a fluke.
Less Exciting
Feb 4, 2009, 09:16 AM
The problem seems to be fixed for anyone who hasn't discovered themselves yet. I made no alterations to any settings. If it worked after you changed something it was no doubt a coincidence.
remorce
Feb 4, 2009, 01:12 PM
IT WORKSSS Yay!:D
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