The big, fat Halo 3 thread [Archive]

Chone

Sep 19, 2007, 03:40 PM

wow that's a great score from a crowd that don't normally go into the FPS genre.

No doubt we'll be seeing 9 & 10's all over the place here, but I'm stll only getting it because I can get it for €1

If I had to pay full price, I probably would give it a miss. Too many other games coming out that I probably wont have enough time to play it anyway.

€1? Why?

Anyways, I really hope Halo 3 is much better than Halo 2 which was really disappointing.

I'm still not hyped about Halo 3 though but I'll probably buy it when I get a 360 or when the PC version is released, whichever comes first.

MacRumorUser

Sep 19, 2007, 04:10 PM

€1? Why?

Special offer at gamestop. Trade any two 360 games and get Halo3 for €1

I've got more than 1 or 2 older games laying around doing nothing, so that's why I'll go for it.

TimJim

Sep 19, 2007, 04:23 PM

H3 has 2 million pre-orders already
H2 had 1.5 million pre-orders and a year after it's released it had sold a total of 7 million.

i think Halo 3 will reach 12 million in a year easy.

Dagless

Sep 19, 2007, 04:33 PM

H3 has 2 million pre-orders already
H2 had 1.5 million pre-orders and a year after it's released it had sold a total of 7 million.

i think Halo 3 will reach 12 million in a year easy.

Um... There aren't that many 360's out?

I say it makes 5 million max in a year. That's assuming half of the people with 360's buy Halo 3. Which would be a little bit remarkable.

SpankyPenzaanz

Sep 19, 2007, 10:09 PM

Dont forget that there have been quite a few who have said and maintained that they will get a 360 when Halo3 hits

ReanimationLP

Sep 19, 2007, 11:22 PM

Dont forget that there have been quite a few who have said and maintained that they will get a 360 when Halo3 hits

Most people who are doing that are buying the console... now.

Why? That way, when the 25th comes around, everythings all set up, their Live account, everything. All they gotta do is break that shrinkwrap and put that disc into their machine.

On another funnier note, we now sell video game hardware and software in the stores. (Radioshack.)

Mainly due to Halo 3.

zap2

Sep 20, 2007, 05:14 AM

I'm getting a 360 just for Halo 3!

I'll be picking up other games...but this forces me to buy it now

takao

Sep 20, 2007, 06:29 AM

wow that's a great score from a crowd that don't normally go into the FPS genre.

Famitsu gave Halo 2 exactly the same score: 37/40 so it's hardly surprising that they come out with such a high score

famitsu are ironically not only the rpg lovers but also the 360 lovers in japan ;)

Dagless

Sep 20, 2007, 07:07 AM

Famitsu gave Halo 2 exactly the same score: 37/40 so it's hardly surprising that they come out with such a high score

Bugger :(

wwooden

Sep 20, 2007, 09:07 AM

Special offer at gamestop. Trade any two 360 games and get Halo3 for €1

I've got more than 1 or 2 older games laying around doing nothing, so that's why I'll go for it.

Anyone know of any deals like this going on in the US? I have quite a few old 360 games I don't play that I wouldn't mind trading in. I looked on the gamestop website and they say nothing about that.

Also, I have a question regarding Halo 3 campaign:

As most of you know by know, there is going to be 4-person online co-op in Halo 3. The first person gets to play as Master Chief and the other 3 play as elites. My question is:

Hopefully at some point Cortana will meet back up with Master Chief and be back in his suite. When this happens, we can hear her suggestions and thoughts. If you are playing co-op and not MC, will we still hear Cortana talk? I mean, the Elite don't have the special suite that she can link into and it would not flow with the story to have the Elite communicate with her.

I will admit, I was extremely excited when I heard there was going to online co-op in Halo 3, but I was also shocked they didn't just do it like the other 2 games, where the extra person is another Spartan. It never bothered me that both people were the same, and it also solved this problem. Anyone has any ideas?

Markleshark

Sep 21, 2007, 06:14 AM

News just in, we got all our Halo 3 stuff in this morning for Wednesday. 8 Legendary Editions. Chuffed, and can't wait now. Thats actually more than we got of those Bioshocks with the figure.

BoyBach

Sep 21, 2007, 06:55 AM

Argos Jumps Halo 3 Gun

Catalogue giant Argos, has been caught with its pants down this week, after it emerged that some shoppers managed to get hold off the forthcoming Halo 3 game a full week early.

This is not the first leak of what will be Microsoft’s most important Xbox 360 games launch to date, but it’s the first one in the UK. Comet has already denied rumours that its online operation slipped out a few early Master Chiefs. Argos grovelled thus:

“Argos would like to make it clear that it does not endorse breaking street dates and continues to be committed to preventing pre-release sales through its stores and Web site. However, we are aware that a genuine administrative error has resulted in a small number of cases where Halo 3 has already been sold.

We are currently ensuring that there are no further sales of this product in-store until the official release date, Wednesday 26 September. We have already taken steps to ensure that Halo 3 is unavailable on the Argos Web site for reservation or purchase until the correct date.”

Microsoft has said it's unhappy but there will be no spankings - this time.

More importantly, Microsoft has backtracked on earlier, scary reports that it would ban the LIVE accounts of early purchasers of Halo 3, saying now that only those accounts of Microsoft employees trying to get in an early frag will be banned.

Somehow, I think having their accounts banned will be the least of their problems.

Gizmodo UK News Link (http://uk.gizmodo.com/2007/09/21/argos_jumps_halo_3_gun.html)

So did anybody here get lucky, or know of someone who did?

85561

P.S. Is that a quote from The Sun on the front cover of the game? :eek:

Sky Blue

Sep 21, 2007, 08:31 AM

umm..it's famitsu..their scores are always moneyhatted.

Dagless

Sep 21, 2007, 08:42 AM

P.S. Is that a quote from The Sun on the front cover of the game? :eek:

Dear god I think you're right.

Next up, OK Magazine says Shakespeare play is a 'bit of alright'.

Jasonbot

Sep 21, 2007, 10:20 AM

Does anyone here have the hacked illegal leaked version yet?

takao

Sep 21, 2007, 10:23 AM

about halo marketing:

why is it that there is so much ads and marketing done about halo in the US/UK and like zero around here ?

i also checked the stocks of my favorite local gameshop and they have 100+(!) limited legendary editions with helmets (129€ *gasp*) and multiple hundreds of normal ones available

somebody from non-uk-europe saw any halo 3 ads already ?

Jasonbot

Sep 21, 2007, 11:26 AM

somebody from non-uk-europe saw any halo 3 ads already ?

I've seen a whole load of single and double page magazine adverts in October issues that are out already (Car and Popular Mechanics) And I also saw posters in shop windows.

Markleshark

Sep 21, 2007, 11:31 AM

Hmmm, Argos sold them? In the past when a retailer breaks the launch date, it goes on sale immediately afterwards.

This is usual practice, strange it hasn't happened with Halo. I mean, surely its not bigger than the retail industry.

Dagless

Sep 21, 2007, 11:58 AM

Don't wait for it! Argos it!

Markleshark

Sep 21, 2007, 12:56 PM

LOL. Nice.

Woolworths did it with CoD3, almost a week early.

zero2dash

Sep 21, 2007, 03:04 PM

I got an email this morning from bestbuy.com saying my Halo 3 LE copy had shipped. :eek: :D :D :D should get it Monday...can't wait :)

twoodcc

Sep 21, 2007, 09:47 PM

i'll probably get it when it's in stores.....i'm assuming that won't be for awhile, since everyone will be sold out?

Markleshark

Sep 22, 2007, 01:11 AM

MacRumorUser

Sep 22, 2007, 04:33 AM

Don't wait for it! Argos it!

Dont Argos it, B&Q it :D

Dagless

Sep 22, 2007, 04:54 AM

Pfft, they shut down the big B&Q in Oldham. I mean there's a new one on the other side of town.

I haven't seen much in the way of advertising yet. Any TV ads yet?

2nyRiggz

Sep 22, 2007, 09:12 AM

I guess I'll be the only walk in for this game...if its in the shop then I'll pick it up but if its not....no rush.

The game does look good from the latest videos.

Bless

twoodcc

Sep 22, 2007, 11:05 PM

I guess I'll be the only walk in for this game...if its in the shop then I'll pick it up but if its not....no rush.

The game does look good from the latest videos.

Bless

nah, i stated earlier that i would do that also. i'll get it when i walk in and see it in the store.

JackAxe

Sep 23, 2007, 04:45 PM

StokeLee

Sep 23, 2007, 05:17 PM

A certain Supermarket near me, not mentioning any names tes *cough* co, had it on sale on Wednesday, 8 people from my friends list are online and playing it, it was sold out when i got there :o( not very happy, oh well, only a few more days to go.

sikkinixx

Sep 23, 2007, 07:07 PM

IGN gave it a 9.5

Nice to know in co-op it takes under 5 hours to beat :p Multiplayer sounds awesome though

it's an odd review, aside from the multiplayer he doesn't sound all that in awe of it but still gives it 9.5/10's on most categories

Dagless

Sep 23, 2007, 07:35 PM

Mr. Joystiq is saying it has the best bits and disposes of the worst bits from Halo 1 and 2 (there was a worst bit in Halo 1?).

Late edit after much thought: The Library *shudders*

JackAxe

Sep 23, 2007, 08:02 PM

I equate the first Halo to listening to an enjoyable record with friends, but it tends to skip way too much during the middle and really isn't anything we've heard before. :)

Average reader is only 8.6, that's not bad. :o

<]=)

2nyRiggz

Sep 23, 2007, 08:56 PM

IGN once again with there scores....95 is a good score but with all the negative the fella mentions in the review I would think 95 to be a bit too much. A whole level that sucks arse and shady AI at times but still a 95.....well this game is all about the multiplayer but the score still shoulda been knock down if the single player wasn't what it suppose to be.(some people don't play online..isn't that the usual excuse)

I'm not knocking Halo 3 guys....just the IGN review....I'ma have to getthis for myself and be the judge.

I'm wondering if we could play this game in 3rd person because in the review they were doing a lot of that.

Bless

MacRumorUser

Sep 24, 2007, 06:37 AM

^ its great that it runs in 1080p though. :)

Will get it - even if I end up not playing it much :D

coffey7

Sep 24, 2007, 10:25 PM

Famitsu gives it a 37/40 (stolen from Joystiq).

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/19/famitsu-gives-halo-3-a-37-40/

Worries about the single player and story being as bad as Halo 2 are fading, that's a pretty nifty score!

How was the single player in Halo2 bad? Just because everyone didn't like the ending didn't mean it was a bad game. I loved it. The controls and game play were great. Better than any gamecube or Wii game. Playing super mario sunshine made me sick with the wacko camera controls. Same with Zelda(cartoon game) on the cube.

Joystiq is very anti-microsoft. I get emails(yahoo alerts) every day from them saying that the 360 is done and the Wii is the best thing ever.

coffey7

Sep 24, 2007, 10:30 PM

Solid. I'm still not hyped at all for this game, though- Halo 2 was really that bad, in my opinion.

I may give it a rent someday, though.

Yeah me too. I was really crazy for that excite truck game and that trauma center game on the Wii. Those were really great games. :D

shortyjj

Sep 25, 2007, 10:36 AM

Color me very impressed so far... beautiful game, fights already very challenging (heroic difficulty) on the first level. Perhaps too difficult? *cough* If anybody is up for online co-op, look me up: username Tikum.

Replay with screenshots is my new favorite toy ever.

takao

Sep 25, 2007, 10:39 AM

for the german speaking readers of macrumors: avoid the german languge version at all costs
according to first reports the german voice work is somewhere between "you have to live with it" "with good luck B movie quality" and "insulting to your ears" ...
Halo is _the_ microsoft AAA title and yet they can't spend the money for decent voicework or at least made it possible to choose the english voice instead of the german one

you can watch it here:
http://www.areagames.de/xbox360/news/31832/Wir-haben-Halo-3-Die-ersten-10-Minuten--Intro.aspx

Dagless

Sep 25, 2007, 10:49 AM

I'd like to know what people who loved Halo 1 and despised Halo 2 think of the game so far.

Nickygoat

Sep 25, 2007, 11:42 AM

Um... There aren't that many 360's out?

I say it makes 5 million max in a year. That's assuming half of the people with 360's buy Halo 3. Which would be a little bit remarkable.

If you read the threads on places like HUKD, people are trying to buy upwards of 10 copies of the legendary edition to sell on eBay.

They're never going to get all of them obviously but will Microsoft claim them as sales?

My legendary edition supposedly comes tomorrow :D Lucky I'm off work with a slipped disc :o

Antares

Sep 25, 2007, 11:49 AM

If you read the threads on places like HUKD, people are trying to buy upwards of 10 copies of the legendary edition to sell on eBay.

They're never going to get all of them obviously but will Microsoft claim them as sales?

My legendary edition supposedly comes tomorrow :D Lucky I'm off work with a slipped disc :o

Of course Microsoft will claim sales. They don't count aftermarket sales, just the original purchase....

And you should be resting, not playing games. :mad:

takao

Sep 25, 2007, 11:59 AM

i've heard that some people are out there who actually bought all 3 version for themselves ...

that said the regular version is 70 euro and the limited 75.....

Nickygoat

Sep 25, 2007, 12:00 PM

Of course Microsoft will claim sales. They don't count aftermarket sales, just the original purchase....

And you should be resting, not playing games. :mad:

The most comfortable place is my Aeron, conveniently placed about 6' from my TV and my Mac :D

Apart from that it's agony :(

tkepongo

Sep 25, 2007, 04:58 PM

I always disliked the first two Halos because it was over-rated. With all the hype and cool looking ads, I decided to pick it up this morning and give it a try. Its still over-rated. Anyone agree?

StokeLee

Sep 25, 2007, 05:23 PM

I always disliked the first two Halos because it was over-rated. With all the hype and cool looking ads, I decided to pick it up this morning and give it a try. Its still over-rated. Anyone agree?

go find a ps3 forum to have a flame war.

MacRumorUser

Sep 25, 2007, 05:39 PM

^ LOL! You have your trolldar on full today stokelee :)

FullCollapse

Sep 25, 2007, 06:18 PM

beat it on normal with my roommates a couple hours ago. i loved it, but the campaign was short. xbox live is awesome too, but i haven't played much yet. really all we've played is the campaign.

twoodcc

Sep 25, 2007, 06:32 PM

i did pick up the game today. haven't even played it yet though

Creeping-Death

Sep 25, 2007, 10:18 PM

I picked it up this morning, started playing around 5 pm with my friend.... [kinda spoiler] and we're already done... it's got to be the shortest of the 3.... kinda decieving. [kinda spoiler]

sikkinixx

Sep 25, 2007, 10:22 PM

Halo 1 was sweet, Halo 2 was fun but had amazing multiplayer...

so far, 2 chapters in, Halo 3 is a big yawn. I'm unimpressed :( But hey, still a good bit left to play and still have to break into multiplayer so hopefully things pick up :)

2nyRiggz

Sep 25, 2007, 10:37 PM

^indeed...I haven't even open my copy but I'm watching my friend play and its boooooring....multiplayer is the key here.

Bless

Mackilroy

Sep 26, 2007, 12:36 AM

I beat it about an hour ago and I thought it was pretty cool. Some parts were boring, but hey, no game can be 100 percent perfect. Multiplayer is awesome, I did a bit of that as well and it turns out my Spartan Laser skills from the Halo 3 Beta are going to go to good use. :)

jasko

Sep 26, 2007, 12:53 AM

Eidorian

Sep 26, 2007, 12:55 AM

It was a short singleplayer campaign with some awkward narration moments. It was quite easy on Heroic.

Nermal

Sep 26, 2007, 01:22 AM

Good grief, it's only been out two days and you've finished it already?! I bought Halo 2 (for Windows) the day it came out and I haven't finished it yet :p

Eidorian

Sep 26, 2007, 01:59 AM

Good grief, it's only been out two days and you've finished it already?! I bought Halo 2 (for Windows) the day it came out and I haven't finished it yet :p6-7 hours at most.

dukebound85

Sep 26, 2007, 02:18 AM

i must suck at video games.

MacRumorUser

Sep 26, 2007, 02:40 AM

The reviews all say the 'heroic' difficulty level is ridiculously easy.

They all advise anyone with any previous FPS experience to play o Legendary for this.

Markleshark

Sep 26, 2007, 05:28 AM

I'm... Impressed. But not amazed.

It's good, don't get me wrong but I've not managed to get right into it yet, only played for about an hour.

However, I did get a Spartan Controller and that is ace, I'm loving it. Might take some Legendary/Controller photos later.

tominated

Sep 26, 2007, 05:44 AM

i rented it out from the video shop and I'm certainly impressed. I haven't finished halo 2 (try to play it at my friends place when i go) so I don't know where cortana is and why she keeps popping up with these message things. can anybody tell me?

Markleshark

Sep 26, 2007, 05:47 AM

Later... Now... Whatever.

synth3tik

Sep 26, 2007, 05:52 AM

If you pay $60 and up for a game and finish it within 2 days, thats not money well spent. I would be rather ticked.

Jasonbot

Sep 26, 2007, 06:04 AM

Later... Now... Whatever.

Where's the little figurine that came with the controller?

twoodcc

Sep 26, 2007, 06:08 AM

its alright so far. I've barely played it though

Markleshark

Sep 26, 2007, 06:12 AM

Where's the little figurine that came with the controller?

I couldn't get it to stand up, and I didn't want to take it out of the plastic. :o

kjr39

Sep 26, 2007, 06:37 AM

So far it seems to be the same as the other two...

In retrospect, I want my $60 back...

Dagless

Sep 26, 2007, 07:15 AM

Yes yes another Halo 3 thread. So lets keep it short and sweet!

What's the situation with Halo 3 and split screen co-op games? What's the max number of players you can get on 1 display?

wwooden

Sep 26, 2007, 07:25 AM

I haven't finished the campaign yet, i'm on the 6th level now, probably finish it tonight. It is a shame the campaign is rather short, I don't really feel like much has happened plot wise and I am almost 2/3's done! The level design is top-notch quality, every corner and room is filled with props and great textures. I don't have a favorite level yet, gonna wait to decide until after I finish. Even though the campaign is short, I can see a lot of replay in it by playing with friends and trying to find all the skulls (only found one so far).

Multiplayer is just as good as Halo 2, really, no need to change what isn't broken. I haven't jumped into this too much because I want to finish the campaign first but I did play a little forge with my friends online. That was interesting, I'm still learning the controllers and what the capabilities are. I don't have any real strategy with forge yet.

By far my favorite part of Halo 3 is the saved films. It blows my mind every time I watch one of either campaign or matchmaking. I love freezing time and rotating around characters, feels just like the Matrix. I only wish it could show me the best action at each moment instead of just having me fly around the whole time to see everything. What I mean is, if I am watching one of my multiplayer matches, I only know the whole fight from my perspective, there could have been many other great battles within that time that I didn't know about. It would take a ton of time for me to pause every second, fly to the next group in the heat of battle and watch them. I wish there was an option to tell it to "jump to the most action at the moment" in the match. That way I can just sit back and watch it like a movie and know I am seeing the best fights in the match.

kjr39

Sep 26, 2007, 07:47 AM

If you pay $60 and up for a game and finish it within 2 days, thats not money well spent. I would be rather ticked.

I imagine that there were people that had it beat by 6:00 am the morning of the release....

monkeydo_jb

Sep 26, 2007, 08:18 AM

If you pay $60 and up for a game and finish it within 2 days, thats not money well spent. I would be rather ticked.

I'd wager a guess that's why they included an extensive online multiplayer option.

thegreatunknown

Sep 26, 2007, 08:26 AM

It keeps freezing my system in random spots. Happened twice so far, and I've only played it twice. I've been playing Solo mode, and it's locked my system up twice. I'm pretty pissed. I have a 2 month old 360 elite, btw.

Anyone else having this problem?

that is the beginning of the three red lights setting in. Exact same thing happened to me. After time it won't be game specific, it will happen with all of them. And then happen more often. And then it will go dead.

sorry.

zero2dash

Sep 26, 2007, 09:09 AM

4. (source (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/h/halo3/gamedetailpage.htm))

1-4 local, 1-4 on Live for Co-op.

Dagless

Sep 26, 2007, 09:18 AM

So 4 players on 1 screen and 1 xbox?

It's just confusing when it says local, I take that to mean local LAN.

stagecustom

Sep 26, 2007, 09:22 AM

that is the beginning of the three red lights setting in. Exact same thing happened to me. After time it won't be game specific, it will happen with all of them. And then happen more often. And then it will go dead.

sorry.

agreed, it happened to me with gears alone, then with all my games! on christmas eve to boot!

mkubal

Sep 26, 2007, 09:43 AM

So far it seems to be the same as the other two...

In retrospect, I want my $60 back...

I guess I just don't understand why you and the OP didn't like Halo 1 or 2, but you went ahead and bought 3. :confused:

I've played through about 2/3 of the campaign. It certainly doesn't live up to the hype, but what could?

I'd say if you don't plan to use the online multiplayer it might not be worth $60. If you do it's probably worth more than $60.

twoodcc

Sep 26, 2007, 09:46 AM

So 4 players on 1 screen and 1 xbox?

It's just confusing when it says local, I take that to mean local LAN.

yes, local means 1 screen

zero2dash

Sep 26, 2007, 09:51 AM

Sorry, yes, I take that to mean local on one box and one tv.

Going off the website at least; my copy will arrive today (not yesterday like I thought/hoped).

Also says system link: 2-16 so (again) I think we can safely assume 1-4 per Xbox 360 system and tv, with a max of 4 systems/tvs linked together.

zero2dash

Sep 26, 2007, 10:04 AM

If you pay $60 and up for a game and finish it within 2 days, thats not money well spent. I would be rather ticked.

I'd wager a guess that's why they included an extensive online multiplayer option.

QFT

Do you expect first person shooters to be 40-50 hour games?
Didn't think so.
10 hours if you're lucky, anything over that is a bonus.

Sorry, I won't be complaining about Halo 3's length when I finish the game (which will probably take 6-7 hours for me as well) because a) I can play multiplayer til the cows come home and b) there are plenty of other great games to play as well.

Seriously...I think Halo's screwed no matter what happens because the hype will do it in just like it did the second one. There's so much hype, that if someone plays it and doesn't see sliced bread #2, they're disappointed. For most everyone else - the hype is so elevated to ludicrous levels that they're expecting everything AND the kitchen sink and they'll be disappointed as well.

IMO:
It's Halo. If you've enjoyed either of the other two, you'll enjoy the third one. It'll be a good game. Don't expect it to cure cancer or feed the starving children of Africa and you'll be ok.

Dagless

Sep 26, 2007, 10:07 AM

Fantastic :) should be a good evening then!

Jasonbot

Sep 26, 2007, 10:09 AM

I couldn't get it to stand up, and I didn't want to take it out of the plastic. :o

Now thats real figurine collector attitude, I'm proud!

Markleshark

Sep 26, 2007, 10:18 AM

Now thats real figurine collector attitude, I'm proud!

Hehe. If I could have afforded it, I would have got a regular version of Halo as well, so I didn't have to open my Legendary. Never mind.

... :o

Dagless

Sep 26, 2007, 10:26 AM

QFT

Do you expect first person shooters to be 40-50 hour games?
Didn't think so.
10 hours if you're lucky, anything over that is a bonus.

HL2 took me a good 15 hours to complete, Ep1 about 6 (which really was too short, by any standards). It can be done but the pace is so much faster in Halo. They don't have puzzles, it's just straight on shooter. But now I'm preaching to the choir :p

Halo has always seemed like a good deal for me because of the replayability. I can't manage to put myself through HL2 again, but I've completed Halo 1 many times over in co-op mode (biggest selling point IMO). I wouldn't mind spending £35 for a 10 hour game if it's as replayable as Halo 1.

Antares

Sep 26, 2007, 10:27 AM

I played the first 2 Halo's and agree that they were way overhyped. They were not nearly as good as the hype made them out to be. I haven't played Halo 3, yet So, I can't give an honest comment on it right now.

Side note: I still wish the original Halo came out in 1999 instead of being modified and delayed to launch with the Xbox. I would probably have enjoyed it way more, then.

wwooden

Sep 26, 2007, 10:58 AM

If you look at this post on bungie.net

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=h3networking

It says in the first question:

Q: Do I need Broadband and Live to play Halo 3 multiplayer?

A: No, LAN games (games played on a Local Area Network) and System Link games are still possible. For two 360 systems, simply connect them together with any Ethernet cable (360 automatically does the “crossover” process. For more than two players, up to a maximum of 16, a LAN or router(s) will be required. This will give you access to Co-op, (up to four players, a maximum of two per screen) Multiplayer (up to 16 players) and Forge. For more advanced features, such as File Share and more, a Live account and Broadband connection are required.

To me, that means if you want to play more than 2 player co-op or multiplayer locally, you will need a second system. Or maybe i am reading that wrong.

MacRumorUser

Sep 26, 2007, 11:11 AM

Just got my copy. Traded in a few old DS games and picked up a copy of Warhawk and the BT headset too.

Now if only I had frigging time to play the games I buy :rolleyes: I swear it's been one of those weeks / months / years.... :(

zero2dash

Sep 26, 2007, 11:52 AM

HL2 took me a good 15 hours to complete, Ep1 about 6 (which really was too short, by any standards). It can be done but the pace is so much faster in Halo. They don't have puzzles, it's just straight on shooter. But now I'm preaching to the choir :p

Halo has always seemed like a good deal for me because of the replayability. I can't manage to put myself through HL2 again, but I've completed Halo 1 many times over in co-op mode (biggest selling point IMO). I wouldn't mind spending £35 for a 10 hour game if it's as replayable as Halo 1.

I haven't played much of HL2 but will soon once I get Orange Box.
I have played through HL and Opposing Force...I remember maybe 10-ish hours?
(spent between hours and hours and hours of TFC :D)

It's great when shooters are longer, but again...shooters aren't long games and they really never have been. Some of them have other things to keep you occupied, whether multiplayer or other "perks" (like the unlockables in Goldeneye [N64] or achievements on the 360) but I'd never buy an FPS and expect 15+ hours out of it in a single player campaign. Maybe it's just me though. ;)

Just got my copy. Traded in a few old DS games and picked up a copy of Warhawk and the BT headset too.

Now if only I had frigging time to play the games I buy :rolleyes: I swear it's been one of those weeks / months / years.... :(

I don't know what's worse...having a pile of games and no time to play them (you) or being broke, not having a pile of games and slightly more time to play them if they were owned (me). :D

Glass half empty, half full I guess. ;)
I'm always bumming out because of being broke and wanting games, but I suppose it's equally sucky to have all the games but no time to play them. :)

shortyjj

Sep 26, 2007, 11:57 AM

Antares

Sep 26, 2007, 12:20 PM

I don't know what's worse...having a pile of games and no time to play them (you) or being broke, not having a pile of games and slightly more time to play them if they were owned (me). :D

I have a great idea. Since you are broke and MacRumorUser doesn't have the time....why doesn't he buy the game, send it to you to play. In return, you create game saves at key points in the game and tell him all about what's going on in the game . When you're done with the game, you send it back to him with a copy of those game saves. That way, he can maximize his time by only playing the key parts of the game and you save a lot of money by playing the game for free (with just a little bit of extra work on your part). It's a win-win situation. :)

Markleshark

Sep 26, 2007, 01:15 PM

Really getting into this now, I was a bit 'Meh' after the first 2 Chapters, but I've just got to the end of the 5th one and I'm loving it.

It is a bit short though, does actually seem it as well, if you know what I mean, you can tell.

Happy though. Have to crack the Multi-Player out soon. ;)

mkubal

Sep 26, 2007, 01:50 PM

Has anyone gotten a local party (more than one player) onto Live multiplayer? I tried last night, but gave me a message that each person on my system had to have a unique Live account... that seems unbelievable. It's especially odd since there are three days of free Gold access anyway.

I was playing against people last night who seemed to be doing just that. Three people with the same screen name followed by a number to differentiate them. So it should work, but it could be related to the problems MS was having with the deluge of people on Live.

MacRumorUser

Sep 26, 2007, 03:43 PM

I have a great idea. Since you are broke and MacRumorUser doesn't have the time....why doesn't he buy the game, send it to you to play. In return, you create game saves at key points in the game and tell him all about what's going on in the game . When you're done with the game, you send it back to him with a copy of those game saves. That way, he can maximize his time by only playing the key parts of the game and you save a lot of money by playing the game for free (with just a little bit of extra work on your part). It's a win-win situation. :)

You really spent too much time thinking that one out :p :D

zero2dash

Sep 26, 2007, 03:59 PM

[has a good idea]

Eh I'm all for that.
MRU would you like a rental fee? :D
I'll offer 3/4 of what Gamefly charges. :p

Dagless

Sep 26, 2007, 04:32 PM

Gamefly?

Anyways. We had a little 4 player deathmatch action, then we took out mini army and went online. It was a total "meh" fest until we ended up on some big party social thing on a big desert map. Then it became very fun, driving around on that Elephant truck :D

But single player? oooh boy was that dull. I'm glad I watched that ending now as there is no way I'll ever be awake enough to complete it. Graphics, or the faces at least looked terrible.

Better multiplayer maps than Halo 2 (no Sidewinder still?) so I can imagine this being on our LAN party playlist for a while. I couldn't play this completely online. Really is a party FPS.

Side note- that menu system was a bit confusing at first.

Chone

Sep 26, 2007, 05:18 PM

twoodcc

Sep 26, 2007, 05:40 PM

Nothing beats a good LAN with friends, and I mean NOTHING.

you are right there. those are fun

Markleshark

Sep 26, 2007, 06:14 PM

Not even...? Nope, your right, nothing...

MacRumorUser

Sep 26, 2007, 06:37 PM

Nothing beats a good LAN with friends, and I mean NOTHING.

God your sex life must be awful ;):p:D

Or is it that Lan parties last longer than 5 minutes ? ;):p:D

Gilgam

Sep 27, 2007, 01:51 AM

The game is very good, both single player and mulitplayer :D Only complaint thus far is the screen waste in split-screen (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/25/halo-3-split-screen-wastes-16-9-hdtv-edges/) I understand that they're doing this to keep the image unstreched...but I don't like it :(

BoyBach

Sep 27, 2007, 02:31 PM

Video game Halo 3 earned more than £84m ($170m) in sales in its first 24 hours on release, according to Microsoft.

The game sets the record for the most money earned in a day by an entertainment product, topping figures set by film Spiderman 3.

...

Sales figures from European launches have yet to be added into the total.

More than 1.4 million people have gone online to play the title since its launch and more than four million online games of Halo 3 were logged in the last 24 hours.

BBC News Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7015663.stm)

That's some mighty impressive numbers. :eek:

EDIT: I have just finished reading the EDGE review and it's only the sixth game to get the coveted Ten. (It looks like I'll be buying a Xbox 360 plus a copy of Halo 3 next summer!)

MacRumorUser

Sep 27, 2007, 05:44 PM

EDIT: I have just finished reading the EDGE review and it's only the sixth game to get the coveted Ten

EDGE™ should be slapped for that one.

Seems to me this is a game for HALO fans. It's not a game to convert those that weren't that impressed by the other two games.

I've played about an hour and I'm bored sh**less of it already. :o

Looks like it's going to join Gears of War on my shelf of the TOP 360 games - that just don't do it for me.

Oh well.

Dagless

Sep 27, 2007, 05:55 PM

It took you an hour?

As soon as Cortana said the word "Lucky" I switched off. I knew it was going to be tripe. A little co-op mess around then on with the missions and yea. snorefest.

My brother was the same as me and told me it doesn't get any better :o

Fan service through and through.

MacRumorUser

Sep 27, 2007, 06:05 PM

It took you an hour?

No the boredom kicked in about 10 minutes, but I gave it an hour just to justify my boredom :D

twoodcc

Sep 28, 2007, 07:19 AM

i personally really only like the multiplayer part - slayer

Markleshark

Sep 28, 2007, 07:32 AM

Yeah, the first few chapters were a bit of a bore-fest. Got really good after the 3rd one.

Multiplayer is awesome though.

Piarco

Sep 28, 2007, 11:20 AM

Yeah, the first few chapters were a bit of a bore-fest. Got really good after the 3rd one.

Multiplayer is awesome though.

That is good to know. I managed to squeeze in some play over lunch and wasn't that in awe...

princealfie

Sep 28, 2007, 11:46 AM

anyone knows how to play halo 3 on a mac... I don't want to buy a 360 just to test it out.

Piarco

Sep 28, 2007, 11:48 AM

anyone knows how to play halo 3 on a mac... I don't want to buy a 360 just to test it out.

Can't be done. Even if it could, you'd be walking down a very dubious road...

Antares

Sep 28, 2007, 12:04 PM

Can't be done. Even if it could, you'd be walking down a very dubious road...

Well, until Bungie releases the Mac version of Halo 3, that is. Next summer, maybe? I'm only guessing.

wwooden

Sep 28, 2007, 01:30 PM

Well, until Bungie releases the Mac version of Halo 3, that is. Next summer, maybe? I'm only guessing.

I doubt anywhere in the next 5 years. It took them what, three years to port halo 2 from the XBox to Windows? I guess some of that came because they wanted to wait for Vista. We haven't even heard if Halo 2 is coming to the Mac, I doubt it will.

To continue the discussion: I am almost done Halo 3 campaign, and as some others have said, the story gets much better after the first 3 levels. After that, it starts to feel like a "Halo" game again; big open levels, get to use vehicles and large weapons, less linear in design, etc. Anyone who stopped in the first hour should try to push through to get through to the 4th level. Maybe everyone on here who stopped playing early should play a co-op campaign game together, that really does make it a lot of fun.

Cassie

Sep 28, 2007, 01:36 PM

I wouldn't have thought so, not the standard editions anyway.

Looks like M$ are really going all out for this launch though, look what engadget got (http://www.engadget.com/photos/xbox-360-halo-3-legendary-edition-unboxing/).

It came with an effing helmet?!

I'm not hyped. Mostly because I don't have a 360, or an Xbox at all for that matter.

However, in 6 or 7 years when it comes out for PC/Mac (If it does) it will be mine.

Antares

Sep 28, 2007, 02:03 PM

I doubt anywhere in the next 5 years. It took them what, three years to port halo 2 from the XBox to Windows? I guess some of that came because they wanted to wait for Vista. We haven't even heard if Halo 2 is coming to the Mac, I doubt it will.

So sad, considering Bungie used to be a Mac-only developer...one of my (former) favorite ones, at that. Even if they ported it, I bet it would be the PC version with the Cider wrapper (or whatever that's called), anyway.

SamIchi

Sep 28, 2007, 02:55 PM

If you pay $60 and up for a game and finish it within 2 days, thats not money well spent. I would be rather ticked.

That depends if you bought H3 for the campaign or for Live. Multiplayer makes it a good buy. Campaign mode is an add on. I never played any of the campaigns in the old ones, but since this one has co-op campaign, it's not bad playin' with friends.

MacRumorUser

Sep 28, 2007, 03:30 PM

Thanks for letting me know its gets better after third level. I was begininng to wonder. :)

Will try and have another whack at it 2moro after work & the gym :rolleyes:

sikkinixx

Sep 28, 2007, 07:06 PM

Dynomite!

Sep 29, 2007, 01:27 AM

MacRumorUser

Sep 29, 2007, 04:08 AM

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25949250

Halo 3 is running at.....640p? lol doesn't really matter but they are rendering it low then upscaling to keep the HDR running smoothly.

Bungies response is priceless and on the mark though.

"In fact, if you do a comparison shot between the native 1152x640 image and the scaled 1280x720, it's practically impossible to discern the difference. We would ignore it entirely were it not for the Internet's propensity for drama where none exists. In fact the reason we haven't mentioned this before in weekly updates, is the simple fact that it would have distracted conversation away from more important aspects of the game, and given tinfoil hats some new gristle to chew on as they catalogued their toenail clippings."

Agathon

Sep 29, 2007, 07:19 PM

Bungies response is priceless and on the mark though.

It's BS. I noticed that Halo 3 does not look anywhere near as good as the GRAW games or Resistance on the PS3. I wondered about it as soon as I fired it up.

And they messed up things like the water as well.

That's not to say that games that run at under 720p need look bad. Perfect Dark Zero does, but its cartoon style graphics don't really suffer from it.

zap2

Sep 29, 2007, 07:24 PM

I played it this week end, at first I wasn't impressed.

But then I played it more today, and I got home, I'm wanting to play it badly!

So I'm getting a 360 tomorrow or sometime this week..for it, Gears of War and some upcoming games

Chone

Sep 29, 2007, 09:59 PM

So sad, considering Bungie used to be a Mac-only developer...one of my (former) favorite ones, at that. Even if they ported it, I bet it would be the PC version with the Cider wrapper (or whatever that's called), anyway.

Any Mac gamer from the 90s worth his salt will think of Marathon with Bungie, not Halo ;).

I still don't think Bungie has surpassed Marathon with the Halo series.

While it may not come to Mac anytime soon I don't think it will take much longer to come to PC, maybe a year or so. Remember, Gears of War was released a year back for 360 and its close to being released for PC. Microsoft is taking their Games For Windows program more serious and unifying it more with their Xbox360 platform, for better and for worse.

MacRumorUser

Sep 30, 2007, 03:40 AM

It's BS. I noticed that Halo 3 does not look anywhere near as good as the GRAW games or Resistance on the PS3. I wondered about it as soon as I fired it up.

And they messed up things like the water as well.

That's not to say that games that run at under 720p need look bad. Perfect Dark Zero does, but its cartoon style graphics don't really suffer from it.

Yeah the game certainly doesnt look anywhere near as good as The Darkness or BioShock and they had amazing lighting too.

Yeah I agree about the water, it just doesnt look right to me either.

PGR3 looked good too and that was under 720p i read.

Halo3 is just ok looking. I played Halo2 for about an hour last night and yes Halo3 does looks a massive leap better than it, but it's just that we have been so treated to better looking games on the hardware, it's hard to forgive some of those ugly character models in cutscenes.

were just all turning into greedy graphics whores :D

Dagless

Sep 30, 2007, 10:58 AM

zap2

Sep 30, 2007, 11:14 AM

Coolio. So 640 against the 576 of my Wii.

I'm probably missing the point or something, but is the Wii just a little bit more powerful than we know? Just that I've yet to find an ounce of slowdown in a Wii game, they're all very fluid at 480p. And Halo 3 has to run at 640p to and still get a bit of slowdown from time to time?

I dunno if I was underestimating the Wii or overestimating these HD consoles...

Come on...stop the FUD

Naturally it’s more complicated than that. In fact, you could argue we gave you 1280 pixels of vertical resolution, since Halo 3 uses not one, but two frame buffers – both of which render at 1152x640 pixels. The reason we chose this slightly unorthodox resolution and this very complex use of two buffers is simple enough to see – lighting. We wanted to preserve as much dynamic range as possible – so we use one for the high dynamic range and one for the low dynamic range values. Both are combined to create the finished on screen image.

This ability to display a full range of HDR, combined with our advanced lighting, material and postprocessing engine, gives our scenes, large and small, a compelling, convincing and ultimately “real” feeling, and at a steady and smooth frame rate, which in the end was far more important to us than the ability to display a few extra pixels. Making this decision simpler still is the fact that the 360 scales the
“almost-720p” image effortlessly all the way up to 1080p if you so desire.

In fact, if you do a comparison shot between the native 1152x640 image and the scaled 1280x720, it’s practically impossible to discern the difference. We would ignore it entirely were it not for the internet’s propensity for drama where none exists. In fact the reason we haven’t mentioned this before in weekly updates, is the simple fact that it would have distracted conversation away from more important aspects of the game, and given tinfoil hats some new gristle to chew on as they catalogued their toenail clippings."

Halo 3 looks much better then anything on Wii. Don't even try and say other wise Jimmi!

Dagless

Sep 30, 2007, 11:40 AM

WTF, I didn't.

I said "why am I playing Wii games without dropped frames in 480p" and "why is Halo 3 running in 640p with dropped frames". Which is why I said am I underestimating the Wii hardware OR overestimating the 360. That is the comparison I am bringing up, nothing to do with "Wii games looking as good as 360 games". W.T.F...

Course theres a lot more AI and stuff running in the background. But for a system with 3 cores, a super powered GPU and more RAM shouldn't Halo be running just a little bit better? Half Life and the Source engine seem to get HDR running on my system pretty well...

MacRumorUser

Sep 30, 2007, 03:43 PM

Actually when you start playing with the Theatre portion of Halo3 you can really see how pretty the game is at times, with great lighting and some amazing particle effects.

The game also does improve after the first few levels which are ironically misleading because they give the first impression of meh! when some of the later levels are really great looking.

Also the fact there is a NOTICEABLE difference when you play the game in 1080p over 720p. It does look much better so whether the game internally is 620p makes bugger all difference because the upscaler hardware on the 360 is doing a great job.

:)

Dagless

Sep 30, 2007, 04:50 PM

MacRumorUser

Sep 30, 2007, 05:46 PM

It seems to be doing a stellar job. 4 player splitscreen and I can still get the long distance sniper shots.

So... the 360 scaler just makes everything 1080p, or does it process the 3D output image into 2D and just stretch it bigger using techniques to make it look native? I've never seen it explained.

I imagine its the same as say running a pc game.

Lets face it bio shock on high settings is the same game, with the same textures and details whether it is run at 800x600 or at 1600x1200 except the resolution is far greater and therefore better looking.

So the scaler just does that job hardware wise.

It just ups the resolution of the content it has. Same as you would see a N64 emulator when upping the res of a game making it look better than it did originally, even though its the same game.

Chone

Sep 30, 2007, 06:04 PM

Chone

Sep 30, 2007, 06:12 PM

I imagine its the same as say running a pc game.

Lets face it bio shock on high settings is the same game, with the same textures and details whether it is run at 800x600 or at 1600x1200 except the resolution is far greater and therefore better looking.

So the scaler just does that job hardware wise.

It just ups the resolution of the content it has. Same as you would see a N64 emulator when upping the res of a game making it look better than it did originally, even though its the same game.

It doesn't really work that way, when you change the resolution in a PC game, the renderer has to render (yay for redundancy) more pixels and in the current days of "per-pixel" lighting models upping the resolution takes a massive hit on performance.

An scaler extrapolates the image so it displays correctly full size on the screen, a "1080p" scaler just means the game was internally extrapolated to 1920x1080 pixels and then sent as a native resolution to the TV, if you scale to "720p" internally then send to the TV, the TV still has to do some work because the image is not a native resolution, this double extrapolation causes further decrease in image quality which is why a 1080p scaler still manages to look better than a 720p scaler.

So in reality, the game is being rendered at 640p or whatever but the Xbox360 is internally scaling it up to the TV's supported resolution, essentially reducing the amount of graphical artifacts from scaling.

Essentially the difference is, a renderer is told to draw an image that fills up a space of 1024x720 pixels and it knows what to put on each pixel with information from the game data files. A scaler is told to draw an image that fills up a space of 1024x720 pixels by using the information from a 800x600 image and "guessing" what properties each pixel should have.

MacRumorUser

Sep 30, 2007, 06:40 PM

^ Cheers I get ye. :) That makes sense.

As long as the end result look I don't mind how it works though :p:D

takao

Oct 1, 2007, 04:26 AM

looks like with halo they already hit some performance limits in the hardware if they have to render it with "less than HD" resolution internal just like they did with PGR3

Markleshark

Oct 1, 2007, 04:47 AM

As long as the end result look I don't mind how it works though :p:D

Thats the point, really, isn't it.

First time I've really gotten into a Halo Multi player though, I'm absolutely loving this.

MacRumorUser

Oct 1, 2007, 05:48 AM

looks like with halo they already hit some performance limits in the hardware if they have to render it with "less than HD" resolution internal just like they did with PGR3

But the new PGR4 doesnt do it, and besides....

There are better looking games (FPS) on the hardware.

Clive Barkers - Jerihco, The Darkness, BioShock, Gears of War, GRAW all look better than Halo3 to me and have as much HDR lighting and such, so I dont think we can just blame 'hardware' and say it's a limitation of it, it seems to me to be more so the developers and the engine they have created limitation.

I think the reason they have stripped down the graphics (if you want to say they are stripped down) is because of the 4 player split-screen. Hence 4x as much to render on screen at one time. Just a thought, though could be wrong.

Thats the point, really, isn't it.

Yep! As long as the scaler works, does it's job and the end result is good/great then really is it really that important ?

Dagless

Oct 1, 2007, 06:10 AM

Yep! As long as the scaler works, does it's job and the end result is good/great then really is it really that important ?

From what I've gathered around't web it's more about the irony of 360 people ripping on the Wii for its lack of HD when the systems flagship game isn't HD.

Personally I don't care. I've locked my PC gaming output to 720p with 3x FSAA and HDR (game allowing).

2nyRiggz

Oct 1, 2007, 07:16 AM

Always good to know that your flagship game isn't running in native HD plus flogging 360s...good job bungie/MS.

The game still looks good but there are at points lot of the jaggies....well once it doesn't hinder gameplay.

were just all turning into greedy graphics whores

Damn right....I payed for it so it better produce the goods.

Bless

MacRumorUser

Oct 1, 2007, 08:35 AM

The game still looks good but there are at points lot of the jaggies....well once it doesn't hinder gameplay.

Jaggies are a curse but there are plenty of games on PS3 with seriously bad jaggies too, so it's not just a system or halo 3 thing.

We deserve better on all our consoles.

Markleshark

Oct 1, 2007, 08:45 AM

Jaggies don't bother me until people mention them...

... :rolleyes:

sikkinixx

Oct 1, 2007, 08:59 AM

the one glaring Halo 3 performance issue I have noticed so far is the occasional massive frame rate drop to about 4 fps. It has only happened about 3 times but it lasted for a good 10 seconds before the game got back up to speed. And oddly it wasn't even during the heaviest of action scenes either. Again its only happened about 3 or 4 times in 5 hours of gameplay but it caused to me to die :p *shakes my fist at bungie*

zero2dash

Oct 1, 2007, 09:34 AM

Oh yeah???!
Well I love it!!!!
so THERE!!! :p :D

I haven't bothered with multiplayer yet and I have already told myself that I will finish campain on Legendary before I dive into multiplayer.

Just finished Act 2 last night...and I love the game.
It's certainly HARD on LEGENDARY but I expected no less.
Try it like me...Legendary, single player only (no co-op whatsoever....not local and not on Live).
See if you can do it. ;)

I got stuck at a few spots already so far but eventually did pass them. The AI is pretty smart especially at flanking and attacking if you are cornered. Brute Chiefs are NASTY, they're like tanks; take a ton of damage and 1-hit kill you if they get close. Them + Jackals with the Particle Beam Rifle (ie 1-hit kill from across the 'world') have already made me (nearly) cry in several spots because of the difficulty. But it's oh so worth it. :)

zap2

Oct 1, 2007, 08:01 PM

So, I went and bought a 360 and Halo 3 today, and WOW...so much fun.

Tons of fun, I love it. I missed having good FPS games(for now, Wii, your FPS suck)

sikkinixx

Oct 1, 2007, 08:57 PM

zero2dash

Oct 1, 2007, 11:12 PM

Just beat it with a buddy.

meh.

the second to last level is ****ing awful... Died about 10 times when we probably died less times in the whole game, totally unbalanced. Well now for it's place on the shelf never to be played again.

LOL
See this is what I'm talking about.
The whole game puts up a challenge but with co-op the challenge is moot unless tables are stacked in ridiculous proportions (like they probably did on the last stage, which I'd expect seeing as IT'S THE LAST STAGE :p).

Play single player, no co-op, then come and tell me the game is unbalanced.

I just started Act 3 on Legendary.
The game is hard, very hard. But not obnoxiously so. No harder than Gears of War on Insane which I also finished by myself, no co-op.
In both games, you are expected to be at the top of your game on the hardest difficulty. You make a mistake, you will die and die often.

All this complaining about Halo 3's difficulty (namely how easy it is and how much the game sucks because of it) and every complaint I've seen (and I'm not just talking about here, I'm talking about here, Joystiq, X3F and other sites) is by a bunch of people playing on co-op. :rolleyes:

Symtex

Oct 2, 2007, 08:35 AM

raggedjimmi complaining about Halo 3, why am i not suprised. Why the hatred Jimmi ? Does it really matter if the game is running on 640p or 1080p ? Bungie has never been known for their graphics but their multiplayer experience. They have more then deliver with Halo 3.

sikkinixx

Oct 2, 2007, 07:23 PM

LOL
See this is what I'm talking about.
The whole game puts up a challenge but with co-op the challenge is moot unless tables are stacked in ridiculous proportions (like they probably did on the last stage, which I'd expect seeing as IT'S THE LAST STAGE :p).

Play single player, no co-op, then come and tell me the game is unbalanced.

I just started Act 3 on Legendary.
The game is hard, very hard. But not obnoxiously so. No harder than Gears of War on Insane which I also finished by myself, no co-op.
In both games, you are expected to be at the top of your game on the hardest difficulty. You make a mistake, you will die and die often.

All this complaining about Halo 3's difficulty (namely how easy it is and how much the game sucks because of it) and every complaint I've seen (and I'm not just talking about here, I'm talking about here, Joystiq, X3F and other sites) is by a bunch of people playing on co-op. :rolleyes:

but the game IS unbalanced. Look, like it or not co-op is how the game is meant to be played. The menu is set up for multiple people to create a party and play campaign mode, and it is scoring for campaign mode. If it was supposed to be single-player with co-op tacked on as an after thought they would have just made you master chief #2 like in Halo 2 when your buddy played with you instead of (very poorly) writing the Arbitor into the story/gameplay. The game should compensate properly for playing co-op not be easy then have one nearly broken level 2/3's through it.

and I'm not saying the game sucked because of it, the (campaign) game sucks for a lot of other reasons, but it shows very poor design on Bungie's part.

Dagless

Oct 2, 2007, 07:51 PM

Well I tried to give it another shot today (up to level 4).

I dunno. It seems like I've been spoiled by Half Life 2. The single player story is more engrossing and better presented, the weapons are much more balanced, AI is better. Then multiplayer is taken care of through Deathmatch and Team Fortress 2. Meh.
If Halo 3 really was just a full Halo 2 then it'd likely be a fantastic game. Similar to how Doom 3 was pushed aside for the original HL2 and even Farcry it just seems Halo 3 was released way too late.

Sky Blue

Oct 2, 2007, 07:52 PM

can someone explain what that ad with the little models is about?

Mackilroy

Oct 2, 2007, 08:29 PM

That's just an ad - it's not canon, as far as I'm aware.

zero2dash

Oct 4, 2007, 02:20 PM

hilarious plasma grenade kill (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/10/04/teh-most-amazing-plasma-grenade-stick-evar/) (with an assist going to the airlift)

Piarco

Oct 5, 2007, 04:27 AM

Just finished the game on Heroic soooooo much more enjoyable than normal. I made a big mistake doing that. And this time I sat through the credits for the actual ending... can't believe I missed that the first time!

Markleshark

Oct 5, 2007, 04:45 AM

hilarious plasma grenade kill (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/10/04/teh-most-amazing-plasma-grenade-stick-evar/) (with an assist going to the airlift)

That. Was. Amazing.

Dagless

Oct 5, 2007, 05:44 AM

hilarious plasma grenade kill (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/10/04/teh-most-amazing-plasma-grenade-stick-evar/) (with an assist going to the airlift)

That is quite a few shades of awesome :eek:

Mackilroy

Oct 5, 2007, 12:38 PM

Now that's impressive.

displaced

Oct 12, 2007, 10:53 AM

1. I open the tray of my newly repaired Xbox 360
2. Insert Halo 3
3. See load screen, then hear that familiar sound......
4. Press Start Solo Match
5. Frozen Screen, RLOD
6. Neighbors hear me scream and call 911....

Why, Microsoft..., why?!?!

Maybe they should stick to software...

Sucks, eh?

My 360 RLOD's first back in August. Got it repaired by a 3rd party because they'd do it in 5 working days compared to a month from MS. Beginning of Sept., it died again. Sent back to the repair company for free repair under their warranty.

Got Halo 3 the weekend after launch. 90mins of play and it died again. I could've cried! :)

I thought I had nothing really left to lose, so I bought the 'x-clamp fix' from www.x-clamp-fix.com. Disassembled my 360 completely, took the standard clamp off the underside of the motherboard and bolted the heatsink down firmly.

It's been running fine since! *crosses fingers*

phil83

Oct 12, 2007, 11:03 AM

mkubal

Oct 12, 2007, 11:42 AM

Is anyone waiting for the xbox arcade to come out Click here if you don't know what that is (http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/11/xbox-360-arcade-ads-spotted-in-the-wild/)
before buying halo3?

I just can't make my self buy the $ 349 360 system just for halo3.

As someone who owns a 360 and H3 I don't think any single game is worth the purchase of any console.

Per the Arcade 360: 256MB memory card. Yuck. No thanks. That should hold about 4 or 5 XBLA games. Why won't MS just bite the bullet and include the HD which probably costs them under $10 to produce. This is absurd.

BengalDuck

Oct 17, 2007, 09:31 PM

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Screenshot.ashx?size=medium&ssid=8FD9E4ABDA021C2D33B00048F3F4BBED

psychofreak

Oct 17, 2007, 09:32 PM

Halo 3 is almost as awesome as I am bad at Halo 3...

BengalDuck

Oct 18, 2007, 02:44 AM

one more try

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m9/BengalDuck/goodgames.jpg

zero2dash

Oct 18, 2007, 09:35 AM

As someone who owns a 360 and H3 I don't think any single game is worth the purchase of any console.

Per the Arcade 360: 256MB memory card. Yuck. No thanks. That should hold about 4 or 5 XBLA games. Why won't MS just bite the bullet and include the HD which probably costs them under $10 to produce. This is absurd.

Two things ;)

-I agree, I don't think Halo 3 is worth the purchase of a 360. In fact other than the first two days after I bought it, I haven't played Halo 3 since. It's not a bad game by any means but I just haven't been in a "finish the fight" mood lately. :) Gears on the other hand...Gears was a must-own for me and the price of the 360 was cheaper than the price [will be] of upgrading a 3 year old computer to run the Windows version of Gears. Bioshock...meh...I like the game, I wouldn't say it's worth the price of admission but to each his own. I've finished Gears on every difficulty by myself and I guarantee I will play through it at least one more time on Insane.

-Re: "arcade" 360 - I think they should (ideally) put the 20gig HD in the "arcade" one and beef up the HD in the Premium but they won't. The arcade one is for cheapskate gamers...after using a Premium and seeing how nice everything is, I'd rather pay the extra $70 for the wireless controller, hard drive, headset + component cables because buying those separately is waaaaaaay over the $70 higher price.

mkubal

Oct 18, 2007, 12:09 PM

Two things ;)

-I agree, I don't think Halo 3 is worth the purchase of a 360. In fact other than the first two days after I bought it, I haven't played Halo 3 since. It's not a bad game by any means but I just haven't been in a "finish the fight" mood lately. :) Gears on the other hand...Gears was a must-own for me and the price of the 360 was cheaper than the price [will be] of upgrading a 3 year old computer to run the Windows version of Gears. Bioshock...meh...I like the game, I wouldn't say it's worth the price of admission but to each his own. I've finished Gears on every difficulty by myself and I guarantee I will play through it at least one more time on Insane.

To each his own, for sure. I played the heck out of Gears and I won't even go into how much time I spent on Viva Pinata. I guess some people are obsessed enough with H3 to think it alone was worth buying a 360. At this point though there are certainly enough good games to justify the purchase. (I need to get Orange Box.)

-Re: "arcade" 360 - I think they should (ideally) put the 20gig HD in the "arcade" one and beef up the HD in the Premium but they won't. The arcade one is for cheapskate gamers...after using a Premium and seeing how nice everything is, I'd rather pay the extra $70 for the wireless controller, hard drive, headset + component cables because buying those separately is waaaaaaay over the $70 higher price.

Precisely. Most people who buy the Arcade are going to end up buying a bunch of accessories. MS introducing this new SKU isn't much of a service to consumers when they'll (likely) end up spending even more in the end.

Somewhat off topic: A week or so ago I was standing in line behind a lady at Best Buy. She was attempting to buy both a Wii and a SE Halo 3 360 at the same time. This was cause for a bit of a backup in the line as she apparently had no idea what she was trying to buy. I wanted to help her, but the Best Buy rep seemed to have it under control. Poor lady was probably completely twisted around about how Halo 3, 360 and Wii were related. That or she has some lucky ass kids/grandkids. :D

ReanimationLP

Oct 21, 2007, 11:09 PM

Sucks, eh?

My 360 RLOD's first back in August. Got it repaired by a 3rd party because they'd do it in 5 working days compared to a month from MS. Beginning of Sept., it died again. Sent back to the repair company for free repair under their warranty.

Got Halo 3 the weekend after launch. 90mins of play and it died again. I could've cried! :)

I thought I had nothing really left to lose, so I bought the 'x-clamp fix' from www.x-clamp-fix.com. Disassembled my 360 completely, took the standard clamp off the underside of the motherboard and bolted the heatsink down firmly.

It's been running fine since! *crosses fingers*

Dont feel bad.

I screamed when I finally got the 360 from my brother last night, popped in Halo 3, went to go start the campaign, watched the first two cutscenes, then got the Disc is Unreadable message.

360 made in July, Standard edition disc with no scratches.