New Update killed Mac!

[thopunk]

I just installed the update on my macbook pro and mac mini. they both started up, after the restart, the macbook pro into a blue screen with cursor and the mac mini into a gray screen. the mac mini loaded eyetv (set to start at startup), but it was still a gray screen. i hit the menu button on my remote, and everything is going fine. on my macbook pro, i cant get away from the blue screen. and i noticed my fan is going very fast because the computer is heating up. anyone else?>

[overanalyzer]

I had a black screen with cursor on my Mac Pro today after an update. I held down the power button to restart and then it was fine thereafter.

[thopunk]

tried that 3 times, still back to the blue screen with cursor.

[darwinian]

Any more reports of this? Is this widespread at all?

[motulist]

Specifically which updates are you talking about?

[CJRhoades]

Do you mean the new quicktime and iTunes updates?

[jlan]

Specifically which updates are you talking about?

Probably the new updates available today (iTunes, iMovie, Front Row, Quicktime).

No problems on my MB. Everything installed and running just fine.

[thopunk]

all of em. quicktime, itunes, front row, imovie. i installed all of the ones that were released today.

[thopunk]

found this:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306857

it worked. i just installed the app enhancer last night for some stupid reason.

[fwhh]

2 restarts and a long time blue scree for me too...after installing quicktime and itunes update. Stangely my function keys (brightness, sound, keyboardbacklight) stopped working...

[G4DP]

Nothing wrong on this mac pro, all updates went through fine.

[writeous]

My MBP was acting strange after the installs too. It took 10 mins to wake out of sleep and when I restarted, it took about 2 mins to get to the desktop the 3 times I did it. Seems to be running ok now. Why the hell do these updates always **** something up? These are just simple software updates, they shouldnt be causing catastrophe.

[Justinerator]

hmm that's weird. Mine worked fine...

[kaiwai]

hmm that's weird. Mine worked fine...

It works fine for most; its idiots who are installing hackware such as application enhancer - interesting that those of us who have a vanilla installation don't have a single problem

Its the old story of PEBKAC.

[writeous]

My MBP is now acting normal after a couple of more restarts. I dont have any "hackware" installed.

[Cromulent]

It works fine for most; its idiots who are installing hackware such as application enhancer - interesting that those of us who have a vanilla installation don't have a single problem.

While this statement is rather harshly worded it is true. If you don't know what an application does which messes around with the operating system, do not install it. Otherwise you are asking for problems like this and half the time Apple gets the blame because the user does not know what they are doing.

[kaiwai]

While this statement is rather harshly worded it is true. If you don't know what an application does which messes around with the operating system, do not install it. Otherwise you are asking for problems like this and half the time Apple gets the blame because the user does not know what they are doing.

True; or worse, they post on this forum, screaming, yelling and cursing - then later admitting it was them installing stupid crap which caused the problem. Its not just Application Enhancer, but Safari hacks, plugin hacks etc.

Why can't people get it through their thick skulls - install software which relies on undocumented API's - you are going to experience nothing but problems.

[fwhh]

It works fine for most; its idiots who are installing...
There is no hackware on my mac too, and I think you violated the forum rules with this statement.
Direct violation of #1 Rule:
Instantly Bannable Offenses (http://guides.macrumors.com/Help:Forum_Rules#Instantly_Bannable_Offenses)
Anyway, my function keys are back after 4th reboot.

[kaiwai]

There is no hackware on my mac too, and I think you violated the forum rules with this statement.
Direct violation of #1 Rule:
Instantly Bannable Offenses (http://guides.macrumors.com/Help:Forum_Rules#Instantly_Bannable_Offenses)
Anyway, my function keys are back after 4th reboot.

If you actually took the time to read my post, my post was a GENERALISED reply; it was not aimed at a particular individual. For it to be an instant ban, one has to SPECIFICALLY aim the insult at an individual. The fact is, I hadn't, there fore, no ban. May I suggest you actually READ the rules which you point to.

Grow up and do your homework.

[rotlex]

Definite issues with my 24" 2.8 iMac yesterday after the updates. Nothing funky installed for reference, but on first reboot, had a kernel panic after a few minutes, second reboot, another kernel panic, on 3rd reboot, the Dock was "gone" as in no longer visible. Powered off, let it sit for a bit as I started to get very nervous, then powered on again. Ran a permissions repair, and I have not had a problem since.

I left the machine on all night, and when I left for work this morning, it was still up and running fine. Keeping fingers crossed.

[unity]

It works fine for most; its idiots who are installing hackware such as application enhancer - interesting that those of us who have a vanilla installation don't have a single problem

Its the old story of PEBKAC.

Wrong. New iMac, nothing installed besides apps like Quark and VLC player. No third party add-ons/extensions/hacks. When it re-booted it ended up with a black screen for 15 minutes. Fans running fine, wireless keyboard and mouse off-line. Had to do the usual 4-second power button. After it was back up I once again ran permission verify and disk verify, all was well as it was before the updates.

[mileslong]

Grow up and do your homework.
you really need to lighten up big, bad internet bully. these people are looking for solutions not lectures by the likes of you.

as far as the original poster. in stalled the new updates with no problem on my two powerbooks but my girlfriends imac encountered the blue screen as well. i let it run for about an hour then just turned it off with the power button. rebooted and everything works fine. if you have application enhancer then definitely get rid of it. i know someone who caused theirs to freeze up when they installed leopard and then their data board went, i dont if that was a coincidence or not. the only hack i use is saft since its too much for safari to actually be able to click on the tab bar and open a new one.

[SawTooth500]

It works fine for most; its idiots who are installing hackware such as application enhancer - interesting that those of us who have a vanilla installation don't have a single problem

Its the old story of PEBKAC.

Interesting that I don't have a problem after the updates and my application enhancer works just fine.:rolleyes:

[quantumbits]

It works fine for most; its idiots who are installing hackware such as application enhancer - interesting that those of us who have a vanilla installation don't have a single problem

Its the old story of PEBKAC.

::BUZZER:: Wrong answer. Try again, sport.

No "hackware" on my Macbook. Unless, you know, you consider Firefox, Thuderbird, TexShop, VLC Player, Matlab, and MySQL Browser to be 3rd party malware. What's funny (for everyone but me), is that this is the 3rd such crash I've had in a year with the CrapBook. It simply pooped out last Jan. and was killed by the 10.4.9 update in August. BTW, Firefox and Thunderbird were necessary replacements for Safari and Mail.app, respectively. You see, the Mac variants managed to poop out over the course of the last couple of weeks.

Just an hour ago something as presumably innocuous as an iTunes and QuickTime update felled mighty OS X. Hence, why I stumbled onto this forum.

No flaming or fury here. I back up my data religiously. However, it is a pain in the rear to have to deal with 3 system crashes in a month. It takes time to reinstall my nefarious ware. Still, why market a computer under the manta "It Just Works" if any type of 3rd party ware risks screwing the system up for good?

No thanks. I'm passing on OS X. Ubuntu worked fine on the CrapBook in the past. It'll save the day once again.

[kaiwai]

::BUZZER:: Wrong answer. Try again, sport.

No "hackware" on my Macbook. Unless, you know, you consider Firefox, Thuderbird, TexShop, VLC Player, Matlab, and MySQL Browser to be 3rd party malware. What's funny (for everyone but me), is that this is the 3rd such crash I've had in a year with the CrapBook. It simply pooped out last Jan. and was killed by the 10.4.9 update in August. BTW, Firefox and Thunderbird were necessary replacements for Safari and Mail.app, respectively. You see, the Mac variants managed to poop out over the course of the last couple of weeks.

Just an hour ago something as presumably innocuous as an iTunes and QuickTime update felled mighty OS X. Hence, why I stumbled onto this forum.

No flaming or fury here. I back up my data religiously. However, it is a pain in the rear to have to deal with 3 system crashes in a month. It takes time to reinstall my nefarious ware. Still, why market a computer under the manta "It Just Works" if any type of 3rd party ware risks screwing the system up for good?

No thanks. I'm passing on OS X. Ubuntu worked fine on the CrapBook in the past. It'll save the day once again.

Mate, you've failed like everyone else to explain to me how I can update-update-update-update without any problems. 5 years of Mac goodness, and not a single problem. How the bloody hell is that possible? do I have divine update luck on my side or something?

[quantumbits]

Mate, you've failed like everyone else to explain to me how I can update-update-update-update without any problems.

When did the discussion shift to me invalidating YOUR experience? Hint: It didn't. You're the one who presumed to invalidate another person's experience. Furthermore, you did it via spurious logic. In this case, you resorted to the blanket generalization that these issues are the fault of the user; namely, that they are the result of installing malicious or unstable ware. I pointed out the flaw in your logic by citing my own experience.


5 years of Mac goodness, and not a single problem. How the bloody hell is that possible? do I have divine update luck on my side or something?

I'm glad that your Mac experience has been outstanding. I can understand your continued desire to use their products. I wish I could say the same, but I've had the opposite experience. Furthermore, my experience isn't the result of some malicious 3rd party ware or the ignorant tinkerings of a computer noob. The fault falls squarely on Apple in my case, both in terms of defective hardware and an dodgy OS.

Am I the exception? Perhaps. I'm privy to the consumer satisfaction numbers and rankings. But my experience has been so bad that its soured me on the Apple brand for good. It has fallen woefully short of my expectations and all of the grandiose marketing slogans. In my case, the Apple premium has turned out to be a sunk cost. As such, I can't recommend their products to anyone based on my own experience. But I always encourage everyone to do their own research. YMMV.

Once my CrapBook peters out for good, then my money will be spent on a Lenovo, on which I will gladly toss a Linux distro. That set-up suits my needs fine and will offer me a consistent, safe and satisfactory experience.