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Europe calling
Jan 18, 2008, 06:08 AM
Desperately awaiting an update, for 10.5.1 gives me constant kernel panics.
How much longer do we have to wait? :(


apachie2k
Jan 18, 2008, 06:09 AM
until your computer dies and you have to buy a new one :eek:
Rustman
Jan 18, 2008, 06:15 AM
Wow, I've only had two Kernel Panics on my new iMac and I thought those were caused by the 4GB of RAM I installed. Turns out that it was only a version of Parallels that I was running. I have a friend at work who has a Mac Pro and Tiger and Parallels made his Kernel Panic for the first time ever.

I didn't realise that I was so lucky. How many panics have you had? Have you considered looking at software that is running to find a common element? It might not be Leopard so much as software that doesn't play nice with Leopard.
Europe calling
Jan 18, 2008, 06:25 AM
How many panics have you had?

I have about three of them every day. Can't leave it unattended without saving my work, because chances are huge i will lose it.
I used my machine in exactly the same configuration for about 5 months running 10.4.10, later with 10.5.0 without any problems. It all started after the 10.5.1 update...
xUKHCx
Jan 18, 2008, 06:31 AM
Kernel panics are generally a sign of bad hardware / bad drivers for that hardware. Usually it is the former (bad ram) but if it coincided with 10.5.1 release the perhaps it is a driver issue. Some people have had problems with wireless networks. Have you tried reapplying the latest update (http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1051update.html).
johny5
Jan 18, 2008, 06:39 AM
What apps are you using when it panics?
Europe calling
Jan 18, 2008, 07:13 AM
What apps are you using when it panics?

It never happens when i am working at the computer. It always happens when i have been away for a while and my computer has been idle. When i come back the screen does'nt wake from sleep anymore, keyboard and mouse don't work. Apps that are open all the time are mostly Safari, Mail,SpamSieve, Tri-Backup, Font Explorer X, NetBarrier.
stomer
Jan 18, 2008, 07:45 AM
I think we'll probably see 10.5.2 within the next two weeks. Apparently the developer seeds are looking good. Maybe next week if we're lucky.
darthraige
Jan 18, 2008, 08:03 AM
My new MacPro is starting to freeze at random times and sometimes when I put it to sleep and start it back up again, it does a full restart of the machine. I recently got rid of XP on the machine and had to get rid of CS3 (wish there was a normal way of uninstalling software and not just guessing at which files to delete), anyway, should I just do a clean restore to play it safe or is this a 10.5.1 thing?
stomer
Jan 18, 2008, 08:05 AM
My new MacPro is starting to freeze at random times and sometimes when I put it to sleep and start it back up again, it does a full restart of the machine. I recently got rid of XP on the machine and had to get rid of CS3 (wish there was a normal way of uninstalling software and not just guessing at which files to delete), anyway, should I just do a clean restore to play it safe or is this a 10.5.1 thing?
Out of curiosity, do you know which brand of memory you have?
darthraige
Jan 18, 2008, 08:06 AM
Out of curiosity, do you know which brand of memory you have?

Apple's stock memory, which is working fine.
Justinerator
Jan 19, 2008, 01:59 AM
I would imagine 10.5.2 coming out pretty soon, people are becoming pretty antsy! :p
kaiwai
Jan 19, 2008, 05:38 AM
I would imagine 10.5.2 coming out pretty soon, people are becoming pretty antsy! :p

One has to remember, the update is friggin HUGE, its weighing it at around 350mb, thats no small update.
Justinerator
Jan 20, 2008, 12:25 AM
One has to remember, the update is friggin HUGE, its weighing it at around 350mb, thats no small update.

Based on previous updates... or do you know something I don't??? :eek:
adjei7
Jan 20, 2008, 04:01 AM
Not sure when it's coming out but managed to find some info on it from babygotmac (http://babygotmac.com/a/leopard-1052-update-adds-dvd-sharing-better-stacks-translucent-menu-bar-and-remote-backup/)

Should calm y'all down a bit.
iCeFuSiOn
Jan 20, 2008, 08:23 AM
It will be out when it's ready. On another note, I'm glad to see that 10.5.2 should be able to control the menu bar translucency directly from the user interface instead of having to use a Terminal "defaults write" command.
Foxglove9
Jan 20, 2008, 08:53 AM
I'm very thankful I haven't gotten a kernel panic ever on any of my macs except on 2 occassions. Once, when I was trying to overclock an old Rage128 video card on a G4, and the other time when a hard drive died out on an old G4 imac.

I've kinda gotten used to a lot of the annoyances of Leopard, but I am still anxiously awaiting an update to hopefully optimize and tighten up a few things.
Mac-Addict
Jan 20, 2008, 09:00 AM
It never happens when i am working at the computer. It always happens when i have been away for a while and my computer has been idle.
Maybe someone installed the kernal panic screen saver (http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Screensavers/Kernel-Panic-Screensaver.shtml) :rolleyes:
John01021988
Jan 20, 2008, 01:51 PM
hahahaha that would be so funny :P
kaiwai
Jan 20, 2008, 07:59 PM
Based on previous updates... or do you know something I don't??? :eek:

That was 350MB combo update, and the delta was only marginally smaller. This was based on information from a number of rumours sites.

Edit: Here is a link to MacScoop which outlines what has been fixed in the latest build:

http://www.macscoop.com/articles/2008/01/20/mac-os-x-10-5-2-update-bring-endless-list-fixes

Its weighing in at the moment at around 400MB. There is a heap, and I have a feeling that a good amount is due to ISV's putting the hard word on Apple to fix issues with their framework which is holding back product shipments.
HawaiiMacAddict
Jan 21, 2008, 12:50 AM
Aloha everyone,

I read in another thread that 10.5.2 was required for the upcoming Time Capsule, so it's probably a safe bet that it will come out just prior to, or on the same date as, the release of Time Capsule. Of course, my information may be incorrect :D

HawaiiMacAddict
adjei7
Jan 21, 2008, 02:39 PM
Coming out sometime next month apparently.
byeehaaw
Jan 21, 2008, 04:49 PM
do the macbook airs ship with 10.5.2?
darkcurse
Jan 21, 2008, 05:06 PM
Check your Kernel Panic logs in the console application to see what made the panics happen. I'm more than willing to bet its because of airport because I've been having those panics too. It seems to only happen when your airport is under load from things like p2p programs (Azureus, Transmission, etc), ftp file transfers and the like. You can read more about it here (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1194095)