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bcharm
Oct 17, 2003, 04:45 PM
My friend was asking me if 10.3 still supports OS 9. I assume it does, but I'm not absolutely sure. Can anyone confirm this?



Laslo Panaflex
Oct 17, 2003, 05:01 PM
Yup its there.

bcharm
Oct 19, 2003, 12:59 PM
Thanks! :)

ColoJohnBoy
Oct 19, 2003, 01:04 PM
It sure does! I don't use it, of course..... well, I do play Oregon Trail every once in a while. That game rules.

Powerbook G5
Oct 19, 2003, 01:13 PM
I heard that now there is a gray little Classic icon that displays in your menu bar when the Classic environment is running, is that true?

As far as Oregon Trail, that game kicked ass during school when we should have been learning to type...it's just more fun to shoot rabbits than trying to type annoying sentences with a piece of paper over the keyboard.

Phil Of Mac
Oct 19, 2003, 01:17 PM
Oregon Trail still works on Classic? That's pretty sweet. I might even still have a copy somewhere at home...

I don't use Classic too often though. Who does? That's a real question, not a rhetorical one.

Powerbook G5
Oct 19, 2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Oregon Trail still works on Classic? That's pretty sweet. I might even still have a copy somewhere at home...

I don't use Classic too often though. Who does? That's a real question, not a rhetorical one.

I've only tried using it once but the program I tried using wouldn't install and just gave me errors saying that my machine did not support Virtual Memory required to run the installer. Besides that, I've just fired it up to play with useless stuff like graphing calc just to remember the good ol' days when I first switched from Windows 98/ME to OS 8.6.

Phil Of Mac
Oct 19, 2003, 01:29 PM
*sighs fondly* Ah yes, Graphing Calculator...I miss that program...

voicegy
Oct 19, 2003, 01:31 PM
Classic is still very important to edcucation, as we're usually the ones most cash-strapped for software upgrades, if they exist at all, for running in an OS X native environment.

For example, until we fully implement Outlook and Entourage in our district, the vast majority of our customers (teachers and admin staff) still run an old version of QuickMail, which has to run in Classic. Now that we ship Macs with OS X, Classic kicks in for e-mail needs.

The one problem that we've run into is that some school sites want to make the machines boot in OS 9...well, those days are gone...it's Classic only. Apple gave education a great deal of time to adjust, but that window is now over. And, of course, it's a bit of a learning curve for the Mrs. Beasley's of the world who teach 3rd grade.

So Classic is still quite important...is it safe to assume that, one day, Classic will be no more?

Phil Of Mac
Oct 19, 2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by voicegy
So Classic is still quite important...is it safe to assume that, one day, Classic will be no more?

Undoubtedly. It is just a matter of time.

Powerbook G5
Oct 19, 2003, 01:36 PM
I guess that's what eBay is for, so you can always find a cheap older computer that can still boot into OS 9 when that day does come when Classic is axed for good.

ColoJohnBoy
Oct 19, 2003, 02:00 PM
Yeah, resurgo, there's a little icon. It's annoying as hell - I wish it would just run in the background, but oh well.

I have Oregon Trail 5 - it requires OS8 at least. So much fun :D:D:D

I lied about it being the only program I use in Classic. I also have a Rosetta Stone program - it has several basic/intermediate lessons for seven different languages. It's a nice little thing to keep up with my Spanish and Russian vocab.

benixau
Oct 20, 2003, 12:10 AM
i think classic will always be in OS 10
i think apple will remove it for OS 11
that will be about 5-7 years to adjust. Any program not updated by then will probably be luck to work. BTW - i mean 5-7 yrs from X.1, not X.2.

AppleMatt
Oct 20, 2003, 06:42 AM
I'm surprised no-one has yet mentioned...Classic in Panther is double buffered...yay!

AppleMatt

yamabushi
Oct 21, 2003, 07:59 AM
I like Classic. Don't get rid of it - improve it or leave it alone. :) I would like to see other emulation modes built in as well for those that might find them interesting or useful. How about Apple II, Commodore64, Amiga, and x86(DOS) modes? You can add in an emulator as an application now, but it would just work much nicer as part of OSX.

MisterMe
Oct 21, 2003, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by yamabushi
I like Classic. Don't get rid of it - improve it or leave it alone. :) I would like to see other emulation modes built in as well for those that might find them interesting or useful. How about Apple II, Commodore64, Amiga, and x86(DOS) modes? You can add in an emulator as an application now, but it would just work much nicer as part of OSX. First off, Classic is not an emulator. Classic is PPC code running on a PPC machine. As for those other emulation modes, each already exists as freeware or shareware. Why should Apple waste its resources developing software to emulate dead hardware?