Keyloggers for macs?

[Melinda]

Are there any keyloggers for macs that will collect asterisk keystrokes? I want to get my child's passwords on our computer.

[samh004]

Oh dear, not another one of these "parents don't trust their children" threads. Out of curiosity, how old is the child, you could just ask him/her.

Secretly finding out their passwords isn't the best form of trust you can show, as if you find something that needs confronting them and it isn't that serious then you risk losing all trust with them, and that's not a good road to go down.

[Luis]

If it's your computer just go to the Keychains.

[samh004]

If it's your computer just go to the Keychains.

I was going to suggest that too, but that'd only work if they saved passwords, and if they saved passwords there wouldn't be a need to find out what they were as it'd log in automatically.

Keychain Access can be found in your Utilities folder in your Applications folder and the password it'll ask you to enter to view a password is your computer accounts login password.

[kkat69]

Oh dear, not another one of these "parents don't trust their children" threads.

More like "Oh dear, not anther one of those 'I don't know how to google something' threads"

[Melinda]

Obviously like most idot lazy people, I googled keyloggers before going through the hassle of googling for a forum like this, registering, signing in to my email to verify, and then posting in order to ask about it just so that I can end up googling whatever responses I recieved. :)

The problem is that sometimes PC keyloggers show up even though you search for Mac keyloggers and also, they don't always tell you if a program will reveal asterisk keys typed. I was told that not all programs do. With all due respect, you do not know my child and you have no idea weather they ought to be trusted with a bunch of online strangers.

Those of you that have been Im'ing me - Thank you so much! :)

[kkat69]

Obviously like most idot lazy people, I googled keyloggers before going through the hassle of googling for a forum like this, registering, signing in to my email to verify, and then posting in order to ask about it just so that I can end up googling whatever responses I recieved. :)

The problem is that sometimes PC keyloggers show up even though you search for Mac keyloggers and also, they don't always tell you if a program will reveal asterisk keys typed. I was told that not all programs do. With all due respect, you do not know my child and you have no idea weather they ought to be trusted with a bunch of online strangers.

Those of you that have been Im'ing me - Thank you so much! :)

keylogger osx - first page had lots of results. Why are you goggling forums? Sorry, I don't mean to be THAT rude but something as simple as google that my grandmother can use you would have had your answer like an hour ago.

You have a question, "Key loggers for Mac" so you google Key logger mac osx or just key logger osx and blam, I found one link 3-4 hits down that linked to this forum to a forum post (searching these forums would have brought this post up as well) that had links to MANY key loggers.

[lofight]

Are you really going to spy on your kid? just let him/her...

[Mal]

With all due respect, you do not know my child and you have no idea weather they ought to be trusted with a bunch of online strangers.

Quite frankly, we don't have to know your kid. If you can't ask them and get the information you need (or can't trust them despite that), then you shouldn't allow them to be online without supervision. Spying on your kid, no matter who they are or how old they are, is just a horrible horrible idea.

jW

[Melinda]

Why shouldn't I google forums?..I'm assuming you meant google and not goggle. I wanted to find a forum so I googled it. Just like I wanted to find keyloggers, but again googling doesn't let you know which ones reveal asterisks and which don't. But the feedback I've been receiving since signing up here has helped alot. When I went to this site which is one of the top google sites my friend told me that these were PC loggers. http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Best/keylogger-mac.html

Anyway, another confusion is that my husband once mentioned there was windows installed on our mac laptop. But I use PC's at work and don't really use the macs at home. When I look at the mac laptop it doesn't look like windows screen & icons. I guess maybe I'll have to experiment with both a pc & mac logger. I guess this will be my excuse to use the macs now.

lofight: She has been through counseling because she set up a meeting with a man 3 times her age on myspace. She was barred from using the computer for a year, but I found that it only made her use others in friends houses or around school. I'd rather she do whatever she's going to do on our own computer so we can at least keep an eye.

[brn2ski00]

Are there any keyloggers for macs that will collect asterisk keystrokes? I want to get my child's passwords on our computer.

Fyi - all keyloggers do is collect all keystrokes. the asterisk character is a UI enabled feature... long story short: your son's password will be collected. logKext is a good one -- runs on the kernel.

[saltyzoo]

Welcome to MacRumors, where our motto today is: Not ALL of us are nosy busy-bodies that know better than you.

On the serious side, I'd recommend becoming more educated on computers. They may not interest you, but obviously they interest your child and they can be very dangerous. If you don't become educated that won't stop your child.

I wish you luck, rearing a child in this day and age is not an easy thing to do.

[hugodrax]

Are there any keyloggers for macs that will collect asterisk keystrokes? I want to get my child's passwords on our computer.

**** that, its your computer. Tell her no password no computer. Get a job and buy your own.

**** parents need to grow a set. back in the day if you said no, you would get your ass whooped and your MITS Altair 8800 or IMSAI computer taken away.

[kps]

With all due respect, you do not know my child
That's what you think.
and you have no idea weather they ought to be trusted with a bunch of online strangers.
OH SHI--

[benpatient]

you should set up your kid's account to have limited privileges. Go in under your "administrator" login and turn change their account to "managed." You can control which websites they can get to, which applications they can open, etc.

If you really need to know the passwords, chances are, they are all the same one, and chances are, it's the same as the user login password for their account. you can find out what that is with Keychain if you're logged in as an admin.

[scaredpoet]

**** parents need to grow a set. back in the day if you said no, you would get your ass whooped and your MITS Altair 8800 or IMSAI computer taken away.

Hehe. I promised myself I wouldn't get into a discussion about the morailty of spying on kids on computers, till I saw this post.

The "whoop the kid and take away the Altair" worked in the days when libraries and kids next door didn't have computers of their own. You couldn't just hang out at the library back then and use their computer, or go down the street.

Things have changed, ol' timer. We have this whole Internet thing now, and a newfangled Myspace contraption. Lots of public places and people have computers, sometimes more than one. And sadly, the perverted creepy old men who used to troll candy stores and playgrounds, now troll the internet and myspace.

I don't advocate parents tightening the noose like this in just any case, but the OP clearly shows that her daughter's abused her parent's trust. While I don't relish installing keyloggers on computers (Mac, Windows or whatever), the OP's doing what she has to do. Don't give her any grief for trying to bring her kid up right, and maybe if/when you have kids, you'll have the right to tell people to butt out of your business, even if you ARE okay with your kids talking to CreepyGuy58 on Facebook.

[hugodrax]

Hehe. I promised myself I wouldn't get into a discussion about the morailty of spying on kids on computers, till I saw this post.

The "whoop the kid and take away the Altair" worked in the days when libraries and kids next door didn't have computers of their own. You couldn't just hang out at the library back then and use their computer, or go down the street.

Things have changed, ol' timer. We have this whole Internet thing now, and a newfangled Myspace contraption. Lots of public places and people have computers, sometimes more than one. And sadly, the perverted creepy old men who used to troll candy stores and playgrounds, now troll the internet and myspace.

I don't advocate parents tightening the noose like this in just any case, but the OP clearly shows that her daughter's abused her parent's trust. While I don't relish installing keyloggers on computers (Mac, Windows or whatever), the OP's doing what she has to do. Don't give her any grief for trying to bring her kid up right, and maybe if/when you have kids, you'll have the right to tell people to butt out of your business, even if you ARE okay with your kids talking to CreepyGuy58 on Facebook.


Still back in the day the fear of punishment and getting in trouble was enough to keep you straight. Back then Parents did not let their kids speak back to them like they do today and their word was the final word no ifs ands or buts. But you have to be strong and keep limits etc and always be a parent. Usually what happens is parents are very passive and try to reason with them, try to become a pal etc.. by the time they hit their teens it becomes a mess.

[brn2ski00]

To most of the replys above: "This thread is NOT about the morality of keyloggers, the OP simply asked if they exist for macs"...

Let's stick to the topic and help each other out!

[samh004]

To most of the replys above: "This thread is NOT about the morality of keyloggers, the OP simply asked if they exist for macs"...

Let's stick to the topic and help each other out!

These questions have come up before, in fact if people searched the forums instead of starting new threads we'd never know.

But even with all that, for those of us that have thought this out and heard it time and time again, if you get caught, or say you peeked at their password and things, your relationship with your children will become even more strained. Trust is better than never talking to them again.

[brn2ski00]

These questions have come up before, in fact if people searched the forums instead of starting new threads we'd never know.

But even with all that, for those of us that have thought this out and heard it time and time again, if you get caught, or say you peeked at their password and things, your relationship with your children will become even more strained. Trust is better than never talking to them again.

I do not disagree with, I just stating that sticking to the OP's original question is more beneficial for everyone. Like you said, there are many other forums on Computer Ethics. In fact, go to your local community college and you could probably find a class on this...

[robanga]

Wow people, the lady asks a simple question and your "righteous indignation of censorship and supervision" alarm kicks in, followed by others need to train people on doing google searches and finally followed closely by a critique of parenting.

Seek to understand before you make yourself understood. It works try it :)

Melinda, they are your children living in your house, using your computer. You have the 100% right to do anything you wish to in this regard.

[SrMasterSell]

Wow people, the lady asks a simple question and your "righteous indignation of censorship and supervision" alarm kicks in, followed by others need to train people on doing google searches and finally followed closely by a critique of parenting.

Seek to understand before you make yourself understood. It works try it :)

Melinda, they are your children living in your house, using your computer. You have the 100% right to do anything you wish to in this regard.


I agree.

Kids are not little adults, they are kids who need to be supervised by parents. Sometimes, kids can be tricked into thinking something is innocent, when in fact it is dangerous. making sure your child is safe is most important. A parent must do anything they can to keep their kids safe.

This is not a case of trust. It is a case of parental responsibility.

I applaud the original poster.

Some people would let you believe that the OP should look the other way and trust her daughter. If someone hurts her, is she supposed to find comfort knowing she "trusted" her child?

[tazzmaniac]

hi everyone!!
im a complete beginner at this. hope someone can help me!!!
i installed logKext, its running however the logfile text are jumbled up...could it be because i am using an 'azerty' keyboard instead of a 'qwerty' keyboard?
how do i fix this?

and how do i change the password or turn off the encryption?

please help ! someone please clear my confusion !!
uhuhu :confused:

[jeremy.king]

Are there any keyloggers for macs that will collect asterisk keystrokes? I want to get my child's passwords on our computer.


Look into hardware solutions, such as http://www.keelog.com/

[AndyK]

This is such the wrong way to go about checking what your children are doing on the internet.

Firstly, you do realize that in this day and age, 99% of child computer users know how to wipe the trail (history / cookies etc) of what they've been up to, hiding it from their generally computer illiterate parents?

Even if you get his / her password all it will do is log you onto their account, you'll most likely not find anything.

Instead, properly applying restrictions on their account and seeking a session logging program that you can view exactly what they've been up to would be a much wiser move.

If you know enough about what a keylogger it and how to use it, you should be in enough of a position to apply proper regulations on a child's account.

A successful child <-> parent relationship (yes, it is two way) is one built on trust & respect. He / she respects you enough to understand why such restrictions are put in place and you have trust in them and your child's use of what they are given access too.

Keylogging your own child is pretty grim. :(

[slu]

Ethical discussions aside, I'd agree that you should also use the built in Parental Controls in OSX. You can specifically list what programs your child can use, and what websites they can visit.

[jeremy.king]

Ethical discussions aside, I'd agree that you should also use the built in Parental Controls in OSX. You can specifically list what programs your child can use, and what websites they can visit.
She was barred from using the computer for a year, but I found that it only made her use others in friends houses or around school. I'd rather she do whatever she's going to do on our own computer so we can at least keep an eye.

I would guess that wouldn't work very well. Professional help (for everyone involved) is probably the only answer.

[callmemike20]

I think this could also be an issue of a kid trying to get the password for the family computer so that he is not restricted.

[eRondeau]

[QUOTE=benpatient;4942184]you should set up your kid's account to have limited privileges. Go in under your "administrator" login and turn change their account to "managed." You can control which websites they can get to, which applications they can open, etc./QUOTE]

Parental Controls are probably the most under-utilized features of Tiger & Leopard. You can't follow your kids around all day, but you at least you can supervise -- and control -- their use of your home computer. BTW I hope your computer is located in a "public" area of your home.

[saltyzoo]

My question is if you find out they are doing something wrong, what are you going to do anyway? Just worry more? You've already said you can't take away their computer.

Seems like the working the problem from the wrong direction to me.

[AndyK]

She was barred from using the computer for a year, but I found that it only made her use others in friends houses or around school. I'd rather she do whatever she's going to do on our own computer so we can at least keep an eye.

Everyone knows forbidding a child from doing something means they are going to seek out an alternate method for doing it :rolleyes:

[ayale99]

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[myusername]

Spectersoft Internet Monitoring Spy Software.

It does exactly what you need, it's available @ Apple Retail Stores I think.

All I'm doing is answering the question

-r

[closebeauty]

Spectersoft Internet Monitoring Spy Software.

It does exactly what you need, it's available @ Apple Retail Stores I think.

All I'm doing is answering the question

-r

You can also use a keylogger for mac software. Google for " mac key logger" and you'll find it.
Sorry that there is a mac keylogger which can record keystrokes but not the passwords behind aterrisks from Parental Control Software site (http://www.parental-controls-software.net).

[Tallest Skil]

I refuse to help until I know the age of this child.

If you don't trust them with the computer, don't let them use it. Plain. And. Simple.

[MacDawg]

You can also use a keylogger for mac software. Google for " mac key logger" and you'll find it.

Dug up an old thread and MattScott'ed it did'ya! ;)

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

[kaiwai]

This is such the wrong way to go about checking what your children are doing on the internet.

Firstly, you do realize that in this day and age, 99% of child computer users know how to wipe the trail (history / cookies etc) of what they've been up to, hiding it from their generally computer illiterate parents?

Even if you get his / her password all it will do is log you onto their account, you'll most likely not find anything.

Instead, properly applying restrictions on their account and seeking a session logging program that you can view exactly what they've been up to would be a much wiser move.

If you know enough about what a keylogger it and how to use it, you should be in enough of a position to apply proper regulations on a child's account.

A successful child <-> parent relationship (yes, it is two way) is one built on trust & respect. He / she respects you enough to understand why such restrictions are put in place and you have trust in them and your child's use of what they are given access too.

Keylogging your own child is pretty grim. :(

I think what is grim is assuming that some how by having a keylogging there it'll stop the problem. If the kid wants to do something, they can easily use the library computers, friends computers, school computers, their mobile phone (many kids have them these days).

People talk about pedos on the internet, but lets also remember that many of these kids go looking for a 'big brother' of 'father' figure - and what they assume, when they're talking to online is a 'nice man who understands them'. If your child finds the need that he or she must talk to strangers online about their issues, then I think you as a parent need a good hard look in the mirror and ask why you have shut down the channels of communication, why you think that filling your house up with the latest mod cons is more important than spending quality time with your children. Buying fancy clothes, big houses and mod-cons don't make up for the lack of involvement in a childs upbringing.

[KingYaba]

Yep. http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/16155

[headfuzz]

Login as an admin account and reset their password ffs.

That way you can log in and check their browsing history andmake them aware you won't stand for any misuse of the computer.

Installing a keylogger to snoop on your kid is no better than your kid protecting their account with a password so they can misuse the computer at will behind your back.

:rolleyes:

EDIT: In all seriousness, we have no way in which to verify you're said child's mother, or even female. For all we know you could be someone from the neighbourhood who has access to a child's home and intends to groom them online once they know which chat rooms the child visits.

That would leave us all guilty of aiding and abetting child abduction. And you can count me out of that.

[GGJstudios]

Are you really going to spy on your kid? just let him/her...

It's not "spying". It's called "parenting" and more parents should take such precautions, with so many predators out there! You're making assumptions that you know the child's age or behavior.... you don't! Even knowing the age isn't enough. Some children mature faster than others. It's obvious there are problems that a mom is just trying to work through, to protect and parent her child. My guess is most of the ones criticizing her are not old enough to be parents, so they can't be expected to understand. I applaud ANY parent who takes steps to protect their child from the dangers of the internet.

[headfuzz]

It's not "spying". It's called "parenting" and more parents should take such precautions, with so many predators out there! You're making assumptions that you know the child's age or behavior.... you don't! I applaud ANY parent who takes steps to protect their child from the dangers of the internet.

You have what proof exactly that an anonymous person who signs up to an internet forum asking where they can get software which enables them to surreptitiously view what a child is doing online is their parent?! :confused:

You accuse people of making assumptions of said child's age when you're equally making the assumption that this person is who they say they are. Rather hypocritical, don't you think? This could be a part time cleaner at a school with an unhealthy interest in the under 10s for all we know.

If a parent is that concerned about what their child is doing on the internet on the home computer (which as you say they have every right to be) then they should put the computer in a communal area where it is obvious what they are doing on it and/or restrict its use by other means. Keep it in a study with a lock on the door. Only have 1 login and keep the password for that login secret so you have to log the child in.

There are countless ways to restrict access for minors. THAT is parenting.

Asking how you can spy (yes, spy) on a child without them (or for that matter, any parent or person in loco parentis) knowing is more than a little dodgy, imho.

You wouldn't be so willing to part with information if someone came up to you out of the blue and asked you which children walk home from school on their own, now, would you?

[GGJstudios]

You have what proof exactly that an anonymous person who signs up to an internet forum asking where they can get software which enables them to surreptitiously view what a child is doing online is their parent?! :confused:

You accuse people of making assumptions of said child's age when you're equally making the assumption that this person is who they say they are. Rather hypocritical, don't you think? This could be a part time cleaner at a school with an unhealthy interest in the under 10s for all we know.

If a parent is that concerned about what their child is doing on the internet on the home computer (which as you say they have every right to be) then they should put the computer in a communal area where it is obvious what they are doing on it and/or restrict its use by other means. Keep it in a study with a lock on the door. Only have 1 login and keep the password for that login secret so you have to log the child in.

There are countless ways to restrict access for minors. THAT is parenting.

Asking how you can spy (yes, spy) on a child without them (or for that matter, any parent or person in loco parentis) knowing is more than a little dodgy, imho.

You wouldn't be so willing to part with information if someone came up to you out of the blue and asked you which children walk home from school on their own, now, would you?

If you actually take the time to read my post and the post I quoted, which sets the context, you'll see I was referring to "spy on your kid?". The statement assumes that a parent is spying on their own child, which is what I challenged as being parenting, not spying. My comments were based on lofight's assumption (not mine) that the OP is the parent.

If you notice, I did not offer any technical help to the OP to help them achieve what they were attempting, since I can't verify that the OP is, indeed, the child's parent.

While not impossible, it is far less likely that a predator will have access to a child's home computer, to install a keylogger. Therefore, the chances are greater that the OP is a parent.

And even if a child is well-behaved and the computer is physically protected, a good parent isn't going to be able to spend all the time watching everything a child does on the computer, once they've logged in. Setting up parental controls and keyloggers is a good way to go back and make sure a child isn't being seduced or manipulated by an online predator. And everyone knows that a child will behave one way when they know they're being watched by a parent, and another way when they think they're not being watched. Hence, the value of a keylogger.

[headfuzz]

If you actually take the time to read my post

I love retorts that start like this ;)

From good old Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage):

"Espionage or spying involves an individual obtaining... information that is considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information. Espionage is inherently clandestine, as the legitimate holder of the information may change plans or take other countermeasures once it is known that the information is in unauthorized hands"

And from Chamber's Online Dictionary (http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=spying&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-search):

"spy noun (spies) 1 someone who is employed by a government or organization to gather information about political enemies, competitors, etc.
2 someone who observes others in secret."

As you've said taking countermeasures, as Wiki puts it, is exactly what a child would do if they knew they were being spied (as per the above definitions) on. So to clarify my point, if you restrict access to the computer in the first place, the child will invariably be well behaved when using it, as they know they are being monitored.

Parenting is leading by example. If you snoop around behind your child's back what do you think they're going to learn from you? :rolleyes:

While you have a point that a predator may not have access to a child's home / computer, it's well known that in a large number of child abduction cases the kidnapper is known to the child and their family. Also, as I previously pointed out, there is no proof in this instance to suggest the computer in question is actually a home computer. It could a school computer, a library computer, a youth club computer, an internet cafe... Anywhere a child could access the internet.

I'll admit my last sentence was badly worded and for that I apologise. It was a rhetorical question asked to highlight the similarities between the two scenarios of someone unknown asking how they can get clandestine access to a child and not an accusation based on your previous posting.

[headfuzz]

...and as has been pointed out, the question asked was "Are there any keyloggers for macs that will collect asterisk keystrokes? I want to get my child's passwords on our computer. " - in effect "How can I observe what my child is doing without them knowing?" which again, as someone pointed out, could equally be a naughty child wanting to know how to obtain an admin password to bypass parental locks; rather than something along the lines of "I'm worried my child might be visiting dubious websites, how can I prevent this?" :)

[GGJstudios]

...Parenting is leading by example. If you snoop around behind your child's back what do you think they're going to learn from you? :rolleyes:

Haven't you heard the age-old wise advice from parents: "Do what I say, not what I do!"??? The truth is, a child, by definition, has a different set of standards than a parent. While a parent can have "off limits" areas in the house that a child may not access, a child has no such privileges. Checking up on your child isn't teaching them to check up on everyone; it teaches them to check up on their OWN children, when they grow up and become parents. A child learns how to parent by watching their parents.

... it's well known that in a large number of child abduction cases the kidnapper is known to the child and their family.

Quite true. In such cases, the person who has direct access to the child has little need for a key logger. They don't need to access the child over the internet, since they have direct contact with them.

Also, as I previously pointed out, there is no proof in this instance to suggest the computer in question is actually a home computer. It could a school computer, a library computer, a youth club computer, an internet cafe... Anywhere a child could access the internet.

...which is why I didn't assume the OP is a parent or offer any technical assistance.

I'll admit my last sentence was badly worded and for that I apologise. It was a rhetorical question asked to highlight the similarities between the two scenarios of someone unknown asking how they can get clandestine access to a child and not an accusation based on your previous posting.

Parenting is a tough job. Everyone has their own style. The only people who can speak intelligently to parenting issues are those who have gone through the experience themselves. Many of the posters in these forums are young enough to more readily identify with the child, not the parent.

As for assuming that the OP is legit, I see it all the time in these forums. Someone claims they "forgot their password" or "just bought a Mac but don't have the install disks" or "want to wipe an old Mac so they can give it to their parents, but want to use install disks from another Mac". It's amazing how many will rush to offer details of how to do such things, when it's quite possible the OP is a thief who just stole someone's Mac and wants to hack into it.

[headfuzz]

As for assuming that the OP is legit, I see it all the time in these forums. Someone claims they "forgot their password" or "just bought a Mac but don't have the install disks" or "want to wipe an old Mac so they can give it to their parents, but want to use install disks from another Mac". It's amazing how many will rush to offer details of how to do such things, when it's quite possible the OP is a thief who just stole someone's Mac and wants to hack into it.

Exactly. Hence why my solution involved the OP having an admin password to begin with. And you've answered perfectly to the "righteous indignation of censorship and supervision" comment earlier, imo.

These interwebs are a big bad place, I think we can agree on that! ;)

Also I think a known predator would probably look upon a keylogger in our example as a bonus, given the anonymity it would provide them, rather than the child being able to say "Mummy I'm just going over to Gary Glitter's house" before leaving the house. That said, we're commenting on one theoretical possibility which naturally doesn't cover all eventualities.

In any case, as you say, parenting is a tough job, anyone who says it isn't is ignorant or lying. But with regard to the original query (true or false) I do believe that if you're going to provide something like an internet enabled computer to your child, then change your mind but leave them with access anyway and spy on them, the only thing you'll end up doing when you get caught out (either by the more tech savvy child who has already thus far eluded your efforts to prevent them from using the computer in a sanitary manner, or when you oust them from the saddle of your high horse with your piece of clandestinely acquired information on their browsing habits) is only going to drive a wedge of distrust between you and said child which is going to be much harder to reverse than it would be being open and honest in the first place with a "you can use my computer but I'm going to prevent you from doing things I don't deem appropriate for a child" policy.

My tuppence.

[MacDawg]

Guys... you do realize you are arguing about a post that is 6 months old don't you... the OP posted 3 times and has been long gone ;)

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

[KingYaba]

Guys... you do realize you are arguing about a post that is 6 months old don't you...

It's going to get closed, too.

[m1ss1ontomars]

In case anyone is still interested, logKext does indeed work quite nicely, although sometimes the log file is not updated in real time. Sometimes keystrokes just never show up in the log. Meh.

[headfuzz]

Guys... you do realize you are arguing about a post that is 6 months old don't you... the OP posted 3 times and has been long gone ;)

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

Haha, no I didn't. Just saw it as the most recently posted in thread in this section :o