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j763
May 11, 2002, 01:43 AM
I've read on a couple of the rumor sites (sry, don't have links :( ) that Apple has killed the spinning beachball in 10.2 or "jagwire". Its rumored that it's been replaced with an "aqua drop".

What do you guys think?


TiMacLover
May 11, 2002, 01:46 AM
Thats cool, I was sick of that thing, lol.
Hemingray
May 11, 2002, 01:51 AM
I never had a problem with the good ol' black and white watch... but then again that's just me. :rolleyes:

The spinning "beachball" is too damn pixellated! Anything will probably be better.
Beej
May 11, 2002, 01:57 AM
Sheesh, all you old people don't know any thing... it's a spinning CD! Not a beachball... :p

I'd love to see it replaced with something a bit sleeker. Actually, it'd be great if we just never saw it at all because everything is so fast. Wishful thinking.

I can't wait for jagwire!
mac15
May 11, 2002, 01:58 AM
yeah it look ugly cause it is way to pixelated, maybe the aqua drop would be nice or have OS X that fast so we don't see either:D
gambit
May 11, 2002, 02:08 AM
I'd rather have a spinning donught!Mmm... tasty!:D
gambit
May 11, 2002, 02:10 AM
And make it a jelly donught with different colors of jelly oozing out the sides!
mc68k
May 11, 2002, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by j763
Its rumored that it's been replaced with an "aqua drop".

What do you guys think?
If it was a pulsating Aqua drop, I would be all for it. More blue, less rainbow.
DannyZR2
May 11, 2002, 04:10 AM
Just wish I didn't see it.. but since I do.. why the heck does it sometimes show up as a color ball, then sometimes as a black and white ball?
DannyZR2
May 11, 2002, 04:11 AM
I miss the ability to <command .> things to cancel them when the spinny ball got going to much!

can't do that in os x.. just have to kill the entire app!

stinks.
j763
May 12, 2002, 03:14 AM
Here we go -- some confirmation from The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk) in this article (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25233.html):

"The notorious spinning CD-ROM cursor, also known as the beachball of death - and a legacy from the NeXT era - has been laid to rest. The wait cursor has morphed into an animated Aqua blob. If you're unlucky enough to catch it, that is."


...And more interestingly:

"...One user reported several hours use on a G3 system without seeing the wait cursor once."

Now that's a speed improvement!!!
DannyZR2
May 12, 2002, 03:47 AM
that would be simply amazing..
aggemam
May 12, 2002, 04:05 AM
starfleetX posted this link on AI boards:

Spinning aqua drop movie (http://brad.project-think.com/movies/Jag-spinning-cursor.mov)
aggemam
May 12, 2002, 04:41 AM
The server seems to be down.
Zenith
May 12, 2002, 05:20 AM
I've been using Jaguar for a while now, and the new "Aqua drop" is beautiful. It rarely shows up though, because Jaguar is so fast and efficient, even at this early build. The "Aqua drop" is, like all the other GUI's, rendered by the GPU in QE. It's really cool to be able to minimize a playing video in Quicktime without losing a frame... But i haven't noticed any window-resizing speed-up. It maybe because of my slow gfx-card, but who knows. Everything seems to be faster at a lower resolution, and since I've got a GF2MX it makes sense. The card is slower at high resolutions like 1280x1024 and above.

What I really love about Jaguar is the scrolling improvement. Scrolling in e.g. IE is about the same as in OS 9 now.
blogo
May 12, 2002, 06:16 AM
the difference between the spinning cd and the new aqua drop, is that you always wan't the cd to go away, but the drop is so beutiful that you don't wan't it to go away :P
Taft
May 12, 2002, 09:19 AM
Nice! I'm glad we got to see this drop in action. It really is an improvement over the CD/beachball/crappy-pixelated-hyperannoying-thingy.

Taft
Zenith
May 12, 2002, 10:50 AM
Have you guys noticed that the "Aqua drop" looks different when the system is starting up than it looks under normal system usage? I'm sure it's different, but prove me wrong if you can.
Backtothemac
May 12, 2002, 11:00 AM
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but it seems that it is becoming a complete OS. They are thinking of the little things. The spinning CD, the modifications in the dock. Quartz Extreme. I have a feeling that this is going to be a massive upgrade for everyone. Hopefully they will advertise this one.
firewire2001
May 12, 2002, 05:02 PM
hey, jus wonderin'.. anyone have any idea of how to change the cursor (the graphic..)?
mc68k
May 12, 2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by firewire2001
hey, jus wonderin'.. anyone have any idea of how to change the cursor (the graphic..)?
The resources in X are very buried and scattered in weird places. I haven't read anything on changing the cursor. They might have the possibility of changing the resource location in X.2, so I guess we'll just have to wit and see. I don't think the cursor could come any closer to the Aqua theme than that.
Mr Jobs
May 13, 2002, 11:11 PM
this is what the new one looks like boys
Macette
May 14, 2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by Mr Jobs
this is what the new one looks like boys

And girls. And powerdykes. ;)
zed
May 14, 2002, 01:11 AM
Thinksecret.com has a whole slew of Jaguar pics... more then any site ive seen so far.....
McFreggle
May 14, 2002, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Zenith
Have you guys noticed that the "Aqua drop" looks different when the system is starting up than it looks under normal system usage? I'm sure it's different, but prove me wrong if you can.

It sure does, pal.
It's rougher...

It's like the Windows boot screen (don't shoot me). It's also on a much lower resolution than the GUI itself...

k.
iGav
May 14, 2002, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Mr Jobs
this is what the new one looks like boys

That's bizarre.... www.pixeljerk.com has icons exactly like that....... I wonder who'll sue who first...... :p
Geert
May 14, 2002, 02:30 PM
Nice to see that beachball of death die!!
(sorry beej, spinning cd)
Love the new one.
macfreek57
May 14, 2002, 05:59 PM
that is excellent
i HATED (ahem...hate) the rainbow wheel
and yes i noted also that it occasionally becomes the old black and white one (which i'd actually prefer). a side effect of classic running at the same time maybe?
King Cobra
May 14, 2002, 06:17 PM
Am I the only one who actually enjoys the spinning CD cursor for OS X 10.1? (It's a rhetorical question.) I do not like the boring black and white. It looks so System 7. At least the spinning CD in OS X 10.1 has colors and looks, at least, a bit more OS X-ish. (That was poor grammar, if you ask me.)

As for Jaguar, I would not be surprised to see an Aqua version of the spinning CD, since even the colored CD looks a little 2D.

As for black and white CDs, I think this happens in certain applications under OS X and basically all the time under OS 9.
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Hypernate
May 17, 2002, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by King Cobra
Am I the only one who actually enjoys the spinning CD cursor for OS X 10.1? (It's a rhetorical question.) I do not like the boring black and white. It looks so System 7. At least the spinning CD in OS X 10.1 has colors and looks, at least, a bit more OS X-ish. (That was poor grammar, if you ask me.)

As for Jaguar, I would not be surprised to see an Aqua version of the spinning CD, since even the colored CD looks a little 2D.

As for black and white CDs, I think this happens in certain applications under OS X and basically all the time under OS 9.
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Aparantly, the black and white one is when apps use old types of code or something. That's why IE does it. I'm not 100% sure, but yeah.