iChat AV v2.1

[skymaXimus]

Apple just released this on their site. It lets you video conf. w/ AIM 5.5 users on Windows!

[jermsmingy]

I can't wait to get home and try it

[Diatribe]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, how sweet this is.
I can't believe this just happend :D . Saved my day. Now I can start thinking about getting one of these neat iSights...
Thanx for the good news.

[Le Big Mac]

Originally posted by Diatribe
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, how sweet this is.
I can't believe this just happend :D . Saved my day. Now I can start thinking about getting one of these neat iSights...
Thanx for the good news.

This might be the most important development for iSight/iChat yet. They've now eliminated the principle reason it was a waste of money: you couldn't talk to 95% of PC users. Problem solved.

[dwishbone]

HOT DAMN!!!!

[Lancetx]

Originally posted by Le Big Mac
This might be the most important development for iSight/iChat yet. They've now eliminated the principle reason it was a waste of money: you couldn't talk to 95% of PC users. Problem solved.

I agree. Only question I have is will the iSight camera itself work on a Windows PC using AIM 5.5? If not, Apple is missing out on an opportunity to sell more of them.

[Powerbook G5]

Even if it did, it's rare to find many PCs with Firewire built in.

[Lancetx]

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Even if it did, it's rare to find many PCs with Firewire built in.

Well, it's not nearly so rare as it used to be (thanks in part to the iPod), although of course the sub $500 junk boxes almost always never have FireWire.

[Powerbook G5]

Well if your PC had Firewire, then all I can see needed would be the proper drivers and software to run the hardware, which I imagine, Apple would have to provide with iSights in the future for cross compatibility.

[alset]

Wooooooooooooooooooooo-hooooooo!

Installed fine. Don't see any changes on the surface.

Dan

[Dahl]

Sounds great!
It's just what iSight users were waiting for.

[AHDuke99]

does it support audio chat too i take it?

[Diatribe]

does it support audio chat too i take it?

Isn't this what video chatting is about? Audio chatting with video?

[kerni]

I tried to do a Talk using latest beta of AIM running in VirtualPC and iChat V2.1 Beta. AIM said "Talk Feature" not supported by the other user :-(

[candan9019]

I wonder if it tells you now if someone is on a cell phone. I am getting tired of using AIM to find out who is on a phone.

[mactastic]

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Even if it did, it's rare to find many PCs with Firewire built in.

Isn't PC FireWire only the 4-pin version that doesn't provide power? 'Cuz the iSight is powered through the FireWire port on the macs. My guess is that unless they add a way to power the iSight externally (and who wants to see that cord added to their rats nest?) that it won't work on a PC.

[Stella]

can't download it, comes up with a page not found link.. :-(

[jimthorn]

Originally posted by Stella
can't download it, comes up with a page not found link.. :-(

It says page not found if you don't fill out the small form with your email and name.

[Heart Break Kid]

just wanted to say that i gave this a try with a friend who was using AIM with me on a PB + iSight

he says the quality was great, but because he didnt have a webcam i couldnt se ehim. also, the video disconnected after 10 secs, with a message reading "no packets recieved in the last 10 sec"

apparently its awsome quality video

[Lancetx]

Originally posted by mactastic
Isn't PC FireWire only the 4-pin version that doesn't provide power? 'Cuz the iSight is powered through the FireWire port on the macs. My guess is that unless they add a way to power the iSight externally (and who wants to see that cord added to their rats nest?) that it won't work on a PC.

Nah, that's "iLink" or Sony's version of FireWire. It works fine for importing off of a DV camera, but won't work with an iPod or anything that needs power. That's all you'll find on their VAIOs, but HP and others use the real 6 pin IEEE 1394 FireWire.

[jimthorn]

And adding a PCI Firewire card to your PC should be easy enough.

[Hodapp]

Originally posted by jimthorn
And adding a PCI Firewire card to your PC should be easy enough.

Buying a Mac would be even easier!

Also, does this new update fix any bugs, or just add new features? I've noticed my memory usage in iChat being quite high... but I'm sure Steve Jobs made it like that for a reason, so whatever, I'm not qualified to judge his decisions.

[Stella]

brought an iSight because of this.

Seems it can't do one way video chat, both way audio chat with IM 5.5

If this release only gives the ability of Both Way video, without any audio, then its pretty lame.

[RBMaraman]

I'm really glad to see this release. I think Apple's going to see a huge increase in iSight sales once this Beta becomes a full release.

Oh, and in case anyone is speculating on when the full version will be released, the documentation states that the Beta will expire at the end of March.

[kerni]

Was it video only or did audio also work?

Originally posted by Heart Break Kid
just wanted to say that i gave this a try with a friend who was using AIM with me on a PB + iSight

he says the quality was great, but because he didnt have a webcam i couldnt se ehim. also, the video disconnected after 10 secs, with a message reading "no packets recieved in the last 10 sec"

apparently its awsome quality video

[Stike]

Where is the friggin download button on that site???
I can´t click download! Is this a joke?

[Stella]

You have to complete the form.

The download button will now work.

Originally posted by Stike
Where is the friggin download button on that site???
I can´t click download! Is this a joke?

[Stike]

Originally posted by Stella
You have to complete the form.

The download button will now work.
Ahhm, no matter if I fill it or not...
There simply IS no download button anywhere on the site... has it been pulled??

[Chmeeee]

So presuming you have this new version of AIM on a PC with a firewire IEEE 1394 port, will an iSight work, or is it Apple only?

[Stike]

See... no button anywhere...

[jholzner]

Originally posted by RBMaraman
I'm really glad to see this release. I think Apple's going to see a huge increase in iSight sales once this Beta becomes a full release.

Oh, and in case anyone is speculating on when the full version will be released, the documentation states that the Beta will expire at the end of March.

Well, I hope apple works with AOL to bundle both iChat and AOL IM with iChat and finally market it to PC users...and actually start advertising iSight!!

[MacBoyX]

Freaking AIM 5.5 for PC lets you be INVISIBLE like on Yahoo! Messenger!

iChat AV 2.1? NOPE!

BOO!

Also tried with 3 windows users and each person got a firewall error.

:(

macboyX

[robotrenegade]

Can't wait till my friend gets home to try it out.

[Photorun]

I second the posters upthread about the question of does just the audio chat work? Can anyone test this out?

[Dahl]

Stike, I'm looking at the buttton right now, it's under the country text field.

[mrzippy]

Downloaded fine here, shame none of my friends who use Windows are online to test.

I imagine it does do voice as it states as a requirement 'iSight, or any microphone'.

Neil

[0 and A ai]

sucks for people who bought ichat and stayed with panther.

[Stike]

Originally posted by Stike
See... no button anywhere...
I just found out... the download button does not appear in Safari 1.2. Bad bad bad publicity for Apple, I think :(

[0 and A ai]

Originally posted by mrzippy
Downloaded fine here, shame none of my friends who use Windows are online to test.

I imagine it does do voice as it states as a requirement 'iSight, or any microphone'.

Neil


The AIM compatible versoin came out a few hours ago so let them know to download it.

[mrzippy]

Well I downloaded in Safari v1.2 and there was a download button in my browser.

[1macker1]

damn this is good news, I will now go buy an iSite!

[ptd]

I have a twofold question (one is somewhat stupid). First- has anyone confirmed that one way video works or 2 way audio? Second (but more importantly- here is the dumb one) can someone explain how one way video works on iChat? My buddy has a iSight but he hasn't been able to video conference with me because I don't have a cam. What needs to be done to connect wiht one way video? Does it matter who initiates the conversation or what? Thanks for any help.

ptd
(sorry that its a bit off topic)

[Sonofhaig]

Originally posted by MacBoyX
Freaking AIM 5.5 for PC lets you be INVISIBLE like on Yahoo! Messenger!

iChat AV 2.1? NOPE!

BOO!

Also tried with 3 windows users and each person got a firewall error.

:(

macboyX

Explain this. I'm not familiar with this. What is the invisible mode? Thanks.

[mrzippy]

I might note that this requires AIM v5.5 installed on Windows, www.aol.co.uk only has AIM v5.1 - you need to goto www.aol.com for v5.5.

[1macker1]

Oh this is just a beta version, i'll wait a while.

[SpY2K]

Boy I hope this works with my PC webcam buddys, I had a heck of a time getting a successful video connection with iChat AV beta before Panther's release.... what is stopping Apple from developing richer features into iChat AV now that it is a $30 app??? I could understand the simplicity of an Apple free iApp when iChat was free.... but now we have to purchase it in one form or another, and the free AIM client has much richer features, I am referring to the basics such as mobiel user identification and auto reply to sender when away...

[Steven Chow]

I hope I could use iChat AV chats with MSN Messenger for Windows, 'cause most of my friends using MSN Messenger.

[ipacmm]

cool.......going to the apple store to buy an iSight :)

[virividox]

this is great just about time. people started to really ask about isight and its usefullness.

[giba]

I wonder if iChat AV still uses the same protocol as before, and how this would impact the voice and video quality. Would AIM users get the same quality as on iChat?

[Trowaman]

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!

THANK YOU APPLE!!!!!!!

I love this company.

[Stike]

Originally posted by mrzippy
Well I downloaded in Safari v1.2 and there was a download button in my browser.
You can see my screenshot... it´s not there. Don´t ask, I don´t know any better :p

[SFNE Freak]

Confirmation:

2-way audio chat does not work on iChat AV v2.1 with AIM 5.5 users.

Proof:

While installing iChat AV v2.1 I looked at my buddy list and one user (Windows) had an audio chat icon that was faded. When I got back from restarting the icon had disappeared entirely. He couldnt've changed the setting since he's been idle for about 30 minutes.

[Bunzi2k4]

this is pretty sweet, but the only problem is, none of my friends seem to have aim 5.5... phew.... ichatusbcam stull works!

[1macker1]

Can I use iSite for other webcam sites, such as webcamnow.com?

[Mr.Hey]

1macker1

its been said that since iSight is a firewire based cam you can use it with many(?) services like yahoo and now AIM, iVisit.

[Dahl]

After you all get iSights, check out these products:

Great iSight stand http://www.macmice.com/sightflex.html

Gcam, free software what records movies from your iSight.
It's great for small email clips, when you don't want to use a camcorder.http://www.macmice.com/gcam.html

[neoelectronaut]

Wow, that's pretty neat, I guess I'll download it when I get home...now...only if...

1) My crappy Logitech USB Quickcam express was compatible with iChat....(or my entire Mac for that matter)

or

2) I had the cash and a justifiyable reason to drop $100 on an iSight.

OR

3) Two-way audio worked with PC so I could finally talk to my girlfriend.

[bensisko]

There are two serious questions that need to be answered:

1) It is another iChat Public Beta. Does that mean that Apple will charge $35 for people who already bought IChat AV OR Panther?

2) Will the iSight work with Windows, and if so, will AOL promote it as a "preferred" web cam (i.e. you can use any USB 2 or firewire camera with AIM AV, but iSight works best).

Firewire is alot more common these days on PCs, mostly because of Digital Video Cameras, however if Apple produced a Windows USB 2 version of the camera, and included a free copy of AIM AV and iChat AV, then I'd bet that this could be a good product line for Apple.

Perhaps they are waiting to produce a 2nd gen camera that has even better resolution and starts to blur the line between a DV Camera and a web cam.

[insidedanshead]

Originally posted by candan9019
I wonder if it tells you now if someone is on a cell phone. I am getting tired of using AIM to find out who is on a phone.

It already does? Roll your mouse over the person on your buddy list and it will tell you AIM, Mobile, etc.

[technocoy]

way back when the iSight was first released, i had a chat with one of the developers at apple cupertino. he buzzed me to see if i liked the app and to tell me how to set up my prefs to get the best performance, when i said i wished that my windows friends could get this, he said "it will be here soon, you won't have to wait long". he said that aol had to get it going on their end first. so i have kind-of been anticipating this since they announced windows conferencing.

cool.

[1macker1]

Thanks, i'll be buying one this weekend then. **i hope**
Originally posted by Mr.Hey
1macker1

its been said that since iSight is a firewire based cam you can use it with many(?) services like yahoo and now AIM, iVisit.

[papersushi]

Just a quick note. Video Chat feature only works with people who is using AIM 5.5 on Windows XP ONLY. If PC user are using Windows 2000, it won't work.

[Bunzi2k4]

Originally posted by neoelectronaut
Wow, that's pretty neat, I guess I'll download it when I get home...now...only if...

1) My crappy Logitech USB Quickcam express was compatible with iChat....(or my entire Mac for that matter)



there's something called ichatusbcam... it lets you use usb webcams for ichat, it still works with ichat v2.1, but it's $10...

[ephramz]

neoelectronaut,

You can get your Logitech Quickcam to work with iChat!! I use mine all the time. You need 2 pieces of software:
-Macam, a huge set of USB webcam drivers for OS X (get the panther-compatible version from http://www.multi-cam.net/camera_downloads.html
way at the bottom of the page. Rocking open source! There's a huge list of compatible cameras here:
http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/cameras/index.php


-iChatUSBCam, which allows USB cameras to work with iChat, and the added bonus of letting you do video chats on G3 macs. Get a free 7 day demo from http://ecamm.com/mac/ichatusbcam/

It should all work then. Not quite as nice as an iSight, but much cheaper!

[Photorun]

Originally posted by SFNE Freak
Confirmation:

2-way audio chat does not work on iChat AV v2.1 with AIM 5.5 users.

Proof:

While installing iChat AV v2.1 I looked at my buddy list and one user (Windows) had an audio chat icon that was faded. When I got back from restarting the icon had disappeared entirely. He couldnt've changed the setting since he's been idle for about 30 minutes.

Thanks a lot SFNE, I was afraid of this. Kinda stupid, I think it'd be easier to enable audio than video. I wonder if this yet another lamebrained Apple/Jobs cluster**** to force people to buy a product by not enabling something (that'd be easy). Guess one can hope (but assume pigs will fly first) that they'll enable it sometime in iChat Beta or at final release.

[bennetsaysargh]

argh. this is not cool. it only works with XP. my
friend and i have wanted his for a while, and now she has to have XP. she has cable and a web-cam, but my friend who has XP is on dial-up and doesn't have a web cam.

argh. they could have at least made the audio chat only available. it would've been awesome

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by candan9019
I wonder if it tells you now if someone is on a cell phone. I am getting tired of using AIM to find out who is on a phone.
you can actually hold the mouse over a person's name and it will tell you what screen name they're on and if they're mobile or not. it does it in 2.0 and 2.1. not sure about jaguar though.

[Lancetx]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
argh. this is not cool. it only works with XP.

I guess this proves that Apple isn't the only one that requires the current version of their OS in order to run the newest apps...

[neps]

you know, I was wondering why a friend who was on a PC had a faded out microphone icon, I guess I know why.

[johnnyjibbs]

Maybe they haven't got the audio chat to work yet? This is only a beta release after all: it isn't quite finished yet.

Also, I highly doubt that Apple will charge for the proper version. They are just making a public beta version to iron out all the problems people might have. Getting computers to communicate can be a right pain sometimes.

BTW, is this also available to Jaguar users (who paid for AV)?

[anodized]

Apple is really opening opening up these days... AIM, Pepsi, AOL, "McDonald's," "Pixar," HP...

What Next, Pfizer? :rolleyes:

:p

[varmit]

surprised that i have heard that you can't do audio, only video, or at least that iis what i'm hearing

[James Craner]

Has anyone got this working well with Video Chat with windows users yet, most of the posts appear to refer to that fact that there are problems with Windows users not on XP, or don't have webcams and audio only does not work. Please can those people who have got it working let us know!

[sedarby]

Originally posted by Lancetx
Nah, that's "iLink" or Sony's version of FireWire. It works fine for importing off of a DV camera, but won't work with an iPod or anything that needs power. That's all you'll find on their VAIOs, but HP and others use the real 6 pin IEEE 1394 FireWire.

Actually, No. I use my iPod exclusively with a Sony VAIO PC. It has a 4 pin connector on the front and 6 pin connector on the back.

[dho]

Originally posted by anodized
Apple is really opening opening up these days... AIM, Pepsi, AOL, "McDonald's," "Pixar," HP...

What Next, Pfizer? :rolleyes:

:p

Pfizer and apple will take you from dlink to isight quicker then your g5 can say "no more gigaflop"

sorry i coulndt resist.

Well anyway I am looking forward to trying this with some of my pc friends.

[djjon]

It's really good that they have this, but I still really want iChat to work with MSN because I don't know one person that uses AOL.

[Sonofhaig]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
argh. this is not cool. it only works with XP. my
friend and i have wanted his for a while, and now she has to have XP. she has cable and a web-cam, but my friend who has XP is on dial-up and doesn't have a web cam.

argh. they could have at least made the audio chat only available. it would've been awesome

Surprised nobody has mentioned this software... Sightspeed. http://sightspeed.com/

It works between Mac and PC. Free unlimited test for 15 days trial period. Then it's 4.95 a month or $50 a year. But wait... if you want to use it after the trial period, it allows the user 15 minutes video conferencing a day for free. Worth it anyway you look at it.

[Rick Friele]

Originally posted by Stella
brought an iSight because of this.

Seems it can't do one way video chat, both way audio chat with IM 5.5

If this release only gives the ability of Both Way video, without any audio, then its pretty lame.

I have one way video chat working (slow, but working). I was using my Sony DV cam on my PC with AIM 5.5 and iChat 2.1 on my iBook.

[Rick Friele]

Originally posted by Stike
I just found out... the download button does not appear in Safari 1.2. Bad bad bad publicity for Apple, I think :(

It shows for me.

[johnpaul191]

Originally posted by Stike
I just found out... the download button does not appear in Safari 1.2. Bad bad bad publicity for Apple, I think :(

it showed up in my Safari 1.2

either it was a bug that's cleared up or.....?
i dont know, but i got it and it's swell

[johnpaul191]

Originally posted by neoelectronaut
Wow, that's pretty neat, I guess I'll download it when I get home...now...only if...

1) My crappy Logitech USB Quickcam express was compatible with iChat....(or my entire Mac for that matter)

or

2) I had the cash and a justifiyable reason to drop $100 on an iSight.

OR

3) Two-way audio worked with PC so I could finally talk to my girlfriend.

you will suffer the quality of your USB cam, but there are hacks to activate USB webcams for iChatAV. i've used them and ... well it worked, just looked much crappier than an iSight or a DV cam hooked right into a Mac.

there probably are cheaper firewire cameras that work, but the iSight is totally a good value for the quality..... if you care/need it. Typical Apple style, the gear is more expensive but it's also a lot better than the cheaper stuff.

[neoelectronaut]

I think I might try to scrap together some cash and go out and buy an iSight. I probably won't use it much now, but it'll be a good future investment, too.

[Rick Friele]

Seems the quality on my PC with my Sony DV cam is better through USB than Firewire. My image doesn't show up on my end when I have it connected via Firewire, but it shows up when I connect through USB. On the other end the video comes out better when it's connected via USB as well.

Only problem I have having is that in iChat, I don't show up with a video icon when I am on my PC with AIM 5.5.

Anyone else have problems with this?

[ALoLA]

I haven't downloaded this yet, but if it's a beta, there's probably a way to contact Apple with bug reports, suggestions, etc. If you're got a wishlist for iChat, now's the time to send it. :)

[ZildjianKX]

OMFG... my iSight comes in the mail TODAY. I am soooooo happy... I had no clue that the new iChat would be out this soon... :D :D :D

[ectocooler]

i cant believe no one is bothered by the excessive data limit errors. windows aim sucks because of this.

"The AIM service could not send the message: You have sent too much data too quickly. Please wait a little while before sending more."

I'm getting this contantly. especially while talking multiple people.

this is really making me angry. i NEVER got this with 2.0

[boros]

I still have two more big problems that render iSight relatively useless for me...

1. Yahoo Messenger (I use Yahoo for everything... so do most of my business contacts).

Memo to Apple ISV recruitment team: Please call Yahoo! Treat them like an Independent Software Vendor you're trying to entice to port to your platform - they are more than just a Web site.


2. Garage Band - anyone notice that you get a "This microphone not 44.1" error when you try to use iSight with Garage Band... Come on! I can use the built-in mic on my 12" P-Book with garage Band, but I can't use iSight with my G5? Whatever happened to user-friendliness?

Memo to GarageBand product team: Please arrange meeting with iSight team
Memo to iSight team: Please arrange meeting with garageBand team - after your meeting with the ISV recruitment team re. Yahoo. Drag along the iChat team...

[ectocooler]

over at the apple support forums other people have noticed this same issue. its combining all your messages to everyone. and so if you're talking to multiple people, it will count your messages sent as to one source and you'll get that error.

totally unacceptable. i'll be reverting...NOW!

[neoelectronaut]

Anyone has an iSight that they use on their eMac? I'm interested to see how solidly it attached to the top of the computer and whatnot.

[iomar]

Well, great! I don't have an isight myself yet. Can you do one way video chat? How could I find users who are welling to chat?

[MacBoyX]

Originally posted by Sonofhaig
Explain this. I'm not familiar with this. What is the invisible mode? Thanks.

Invisible mode means you can be signed on and look like you're offline but you aren't. You can initiate and receive IMs. This is important to me because sometimes I am online working and just want to msg one person but nor be seen.

On another note... i have already reverted. I don't think this beta is cooked enough yet. I had ALOT of problems with just sending IMs and getting a "you've sent to many messages too fast, please wait a short while and try again".

I also could not chat with 5 different Windows friends and 3 iChat friends that I could chat with yesterday.

:(

macboyX

[LimeiBook86]

Originally posted by candan9019
I wonder if it tells you now if someone is on a cell phone. I am getting tired of using AIM to find out who is on a phone.

This is easy in iChat (non-beta also) hover your cursor over the user name in your buddy list and it will say *AIM: screename or *Mobile :D

[ectocooler]

i cant believe they'd release this beta like this. its almost not functional. its not like we were even waiting for this, no one had any idea when it was coming. for craps sakes, just wait a few weeks and fix the enormous bugs.

[candan9019]

Originally posted by insidedanshead
It already does? Roll your mouse over the person on your buddy list and it will tell you AIM, Mobile, etc.

Oh, never tried that just assumed there would be a different icon. Thanks!

[MacBoyX]

Originally posted by boros
I still have two more big problems that render iSight relatively useless for me...

1. Yahoo Messenger (I use Yahoo for everything... so do most of my business contacts).

Memo to Apple ISV recruitment team: Please call Yahoo! Treat them like an Independent Software Vendor you're trying to entice to port to your platform - they are more than just a Web site.



I use my iSight with Yahoo Messenger every single day. Works as well as my iBot did.

What issues do you have?

macboyX

[mrzippy]

Just tested with a Windows user on AIM 5.5

We are no not able to voice chat, greyed out at my end, and says I do not support it on the Windows end.

:(

[Rick Friele]

Originally posted by mrzippy
Just tested with a Windows user on AIM 5.5

We are no not able to voice chat, greyed out at my end, and says I do not support it on the Windows end.

:(

Try and add me to your buddy list and see if my video icon shows up. I can video chat fine with iChat, but I don't have a video icon next to my name. I'm on AIM 5.5.

[mrzippy]

Does not work with AIM 5.5 :(

iChat (me) - shows text only chat for my friend on AIM

AIM 5.5 (friend) - shows me as supporting video chat.

If my friend calls me as audio AIM says I do not support/accept the call, if he calls me as video I can accept the call in iChat, it then says connecting, the beach balls spins for a second then it says my friend failed to respond.

I only have a USB audio mic, my friend does have a cam too.

[Rick Friele]

Originally posted by mrzippy
Does not work with AIM 5.5 :(

All I have is text chat shown for my Friend in iChat

He shows live video in AIM for me, if he audio calls me AIM says I do not support/accept the call, if he calls video I can accept and it says connecting, the beach balls spins for a second then it says my friend failed to respond.

I only have a USB audio mic, my friend does have a cam too.

Maybe his camera is not configured correctly? I can video chat with iChat users ok.

[pbrennen]

are you people making sure you or your friends are using build 5.5.3572, and not the previous 5.5.3553 beta build?

[mrzippy]

His camera works at his end...

Anyway I show no mic or camera for him in iChat :(

He has turned his firewall off and I just set default server on my router to the machine I'm using - still no luck.

[mrzippy]

Originally posted by pbrennen
are you people making sure you or your friends are using build 5.5.3572, and not the previous 5.5.3553 beta build?

Yes he just downloaded from www.aol.com to test this, version 5.5.3572

[jholzner]

Originally posted by MacBoyX
Invisible mode means you can be signed on and look like you're offline but you aren't. You can initiate and receive IMs. This is important to me because sometimes I am online working and just want to msg one person but nor be seen.

On another note... i have already reverted. I don't think this beta is cooked enough yet. I had ALOT of problems with just sending IMs and getting a "you've sent to many messages too fast, please wait a short while and try again".

I also could not chat with 5 different Windows friends and 3 iChat friends that I could chat with yesterday.

:(

macboyX

Well, with iChat you can set yourself as "Away" but still IM people and receive IM's. I know it's not invisible mode but it kinda works the same. With AIM you can't chat with someone when you are away...but you can in iChat.

[Rick Friele]

Originally posted by mrzippy
His camera works at his end...

Anyway I show no mic or camera for him in iChat :(

He has turned his firewall off and I just set default server on my router to the machine I'm using - still no luck.

Yeah, the mic or camera aren't coming up for me either.

[craigiest]

Originally posted by RBMaraman
I'm really glad to see this release. I think Apple's going to see a huge increase in iSight sales once this Beta becomes a full release.

Oh, and in case anyone is speculating on when the full version will be released, the documentation states that the Beta will expire at the end of March.

Now if they make me pay for THIS tenth of a version increment, I'll be mad.

[davetrow1997]

Think they'll buy the April Fool's joke thing again?


Michael Hanscom, a temp worker at Microsoft's in-house print shop, is fired after posting to his blog a photo that showed workers at the facility taking delivery of several Apple G5 computers. His supervisor insists that Hanscom was fired not for showing the company relying on the product of its chief rival, but for revealing the location of one of its shipping and receiving departments.

Did anyone see this?? Hilarious...

To make this relevant to the thread... iSight and iChatAV rock. I never talk to my family on the phone anymore..

[mrzippy]

I have connected a camera to my mac now, suddenly it says my friend has a camera, now I have one.

Voice only chat is still greyed out.

Very odd, so you both must have a camera to use.

Will test too, friend just gone offline - PC probably crashed :)

updated... I was right ;)

[davetrow1997]

http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/even_microsoft_.html

I took this shot on the way into work on the loading dock (MSCopy, the print shop I work in, is in the same building as MS's shipping and receiving). Three palettes of Dual 2.0Ghz G5's on their way in to somewhere deep in the bowels of Redmond. Hopefully they're all in good condition when they arrive — the boxes are slick enough that a few of them took a bit of a tumble (you can see them back in the truck)!

[Rower_CPU]

Hmmm, it won't launch for me. Unexpected quit error.

I'll try trashing prefs and such later, but that's not a great first impression.

[simply258]

Originally posted by davetrow1997
http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/even_microsoft_.html

I took this shot on the way into work on the loading dock (MSCopy, the print shop I work in, is in the same building as MS's shipping and receiving). Three palettes of Dual 2.0Ghz G5's on their way in to somewhere deep in the bowels of Redmond. Hopefully they're all in good condition when they arrive — the boxes are slick enough that a few of them took a bit of a tumble (you can see them back in the truck)!
First of all, this is REALLY old news .. it's been all over new sites .. CNN, etc ..

Second, Microsoft has a Mac department, Mac Business Unit .. You don't expect them to be using PCs to make Mac software, do you ?

[mrzippy]

Well it says starting Video Chat now forever.... but never gets any further.

This is not a very good beta.

I am using NAPT router, but iChat was supposed to be transparent to that sort of setup, have even assigned a default server as this machine just in case.

:(

[supercres]

I have a new PB with iSight. I've tried 5.5 with two different people:

--First person has a PC with 5.5 and no webcam. I was able to do a one-way video chat with 2-way audio. In other words, she could see and hear me; I could hear her.
--Second person has a PC with 5.5 and a USB webcam. She could see and hear me, but i could only see her.

Don't know what the deal is. I'm disappointed there's no option for 1-to-1 audio chat without video. There are some times when I just don't want to see people/don't want them to see me.

[mrzippy]

If my friend calls me I get the following error in connection doctor.

2004-02-05 23:26:33 +0000: AIMUSER cancelled the connection
Tried to send UDP SIP "invite" to the following IP addresses and ports:
81.76.118.194:3568



AIMUSER is censored shows username

[Grimace]

it's a step in the right direction.

iPod for mac ---> then Windoze
iChat for mac ---> then Windoze

convert the users' habits, then you can convert the users.

[Doctor Q]

Originally posted by Dahl
After you all get iSights, check out these products:

Great iSight stand http://www.macmice.com/sightflex.html

Gcam, free software what records movies from your iSight.
It's great for small email clips, when you don't want to use a camcorder.http://www.macmice.com/gcam.html Add to your list:

EvoCam (http://www.evological.com/evocam.html) software for iSight - snapshots, QuickTime movies, webcams, and even motion detection. $20 (less for students).

[crees!]

Originally posted by boros
2. Garage Band - anyone notice that you get a "This microphone not 44.1" error when you try to use iSight with Garage Band... Come on! I can use the built-in mic on my 12" P-Book with garage Band, but I can't use iSight with my G5? Whatever happened to user-friendliness?

Maybe that's because iSight doesn't transmit 44.1kHz of audio. You don't need that much frequency range just for audio. Normal human speech is in the 1kHz range and doesn't stray too far higher or lower. Just think.. all that added and unneccessary frequency adds for a larger amount of data to travel over the net. Sending high quality audio like that would prohibit people on dialup to use the audio-only chat feature like they can now.

The iSight is not meant to be a studio mic, but a videoconferencing mic. If you're recording you want a decent mic. Music compositions should be atleast 44,100 Hz.

In my mind as a computer geek and musician this makes complete sense to me why Apple would go this route for both applications.

[mrzippy]

I have started a thread on the Apple discussions site too.

http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@18.1ojCac8wb4k.6@.688e49a1

[ImAlwaysRight]

If anyone is looking for a good FireWire webcam that is BETTER than the iSight, look to the Unibrain Fire-i webcam. The Fire-i does not have a built-in mic like the iSight, but you can get a $10 USB mic for that (that is what I use, plus you can put mic closer to the source). I have been using a Fire-i for over a year, and just picked up a second at amazon.com for about $75 (currently Amazon is out of stock, plus it seems they may have raised their price), so this saves you almost half of what you can find an iSight for.

I purchased an iSight at Christmas expecting better video performance and was shocked to find out it was WORSE! So I sold the iSight and bought another Fire-i. The picture on the iSight was very dark in my room that has moderate room lighting. The Fire-i has a MUCH better/brighter picture in comparison and didn't require I go out and buy photo lamps or something. :p Read the Apple forums and you will find many other users unhappy with the iSight picture quality being too dark.

FOR THOSE WITH PROBLEMS CONNECTING TO OTHER USERS: If you or your friend are using a router, they will need to open up specific ports in order to use videoconferencing. Check the Apple website. I have a netgear wireless router, and could see people but could not make a connection until I opened up the ports on my router as Apple instructed.

[mrzippy]

Have just found this on firewall / NAPT setting for iChat

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93208

Some router-specific features or configurations may interfere with iChat AV. This includes port mapping on either end, SIP rewriting, SIP dropping, or dynamic opening of media ports.
Is shown in that document, my router has a NAT binding for SIP for port 5060 - is that likely to cause my problems?

Will try removing SIP Binding and forwarding the ports shown tomorrow.

[James Craner]

Does not look like many people are getting this to work with PC 5.5. I know Apple said it was beta, looks more like Alpha to me.
:(

[Stella]

Audio does work with iChat -> aol 5.5

I've tested this on using my mac -> PC

the mac person seems to have to make a video request for the audio to work.

unfortunately I don't have a mic for my PC so I couldn't see whether audio works from pc -> mac

[Fuchal]

Originally posted by Stike
I just found out... the download button does not appear in Safari 1.2. Bad bad bad publicity for Apple, I think :(

Well, I was running safari 1.2 when I downloaded it at about 12:00 EST today. Worked fine for me.

[Thirteenva]

Originally posted by davetrow1997
http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/even_microsoft_.html

I took this shot on the way into work on the loading dock (MSCopy, the print shop I work in, is in the same building as MS's shipping and receiving). Three palettes of Dual 2.0Ghz G5's on their way in to somewhere deep in the bowels of Redmond. Hopefully they're all in good condition when they arrive — the boxes are slick enough that a few of them took a bit of a tumble (you can see them back in the truck)!

Not only is this way off topic, but its old news. This happened months ago.

[boros]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand how the bui;lt-in Mic in my 12" Powerbook should be more of a "Studio Mic" than the iSight that I paid a C-Note for. The whole idea of the iLife Suite is simplicity... a suite for the rest of us. So, it is just plain unaceptable... MAKE IT WORK, APPLE!

Originally posted by crees!
Maybe that's because iSight doesn't transmit 44.1kHz of audio. You don't need that much frequency range just for audio. Normal human speech is in the 1kHz range and doesn't stray too far higher or lower. Just think.. all that added and unneccessary frequency adds for a larger amount of data to travel over the net. Sending high quality audio like that would prohibit people on dialup to use the audio-only chat feature like they can now.

The iSight is not meant to be a studio mic, but a videoconferencing mic. If you're recording you want a decent mic. Music compositions should be atleast 44,100 Hz.

In my mind as a computer geek and musician this makes complete sense to me why Apple would go this route for both applications.

[G6iPod]

I loaded the new Beta and restarted my computer and then my internet connection wouldn't work. Rendezvous still worked on my network, but Safari, Mail, and my AIM account wouldn't log on. I reverted back to the old version and restarted but that didn't fix it. My network settings say I'm connected to the internet through the network. I ran disk utilites and fixed permissions and repaired the hard drive. I don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

[boros]

Hmmm... maybe I need to try it again, but audio didn't work when I tried to use it in late December. I'm at work and don't have my iSight, so I can't tell if this isue has been resolved. It would be wonderful if they fixed it, but - as of Dec 30th - it seemed like Yahoo had no intention of making it work. Here's the message I got from Yahoo Support....

Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Messenger.

Yahoo! Messenger for Macintosh does not include the voice chat feature.
We are aware there is strong interest among our Macintosh users, but
there is currently no schedule for releasing this feature.

For now, we don't have an exact schedule stating which features we will
be added to the Mac version of Yahoo! Messenger. We appreciate your
suggestions a great deal, as it is through user comments and feedback
that we are able to continue to make improvements. We always have
something on the drawing board, and many of our best new features have
been suggested directly by users like you.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.

Regards,

Yahoo! Customer Care





Originally posted by MacBoyX
I use my iSight with Yahoo Messenger every single day. Works as well as my iBot did.

What issues do you have?

macboyX

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by carletonmusic
it's a step in the right direction.

iPod for mac ---> then Windoze
iChat for mac ---> then Windoze

convert the users' habits, then you can convert the users.

that won't happen. we got them to use iTunes, iChat is going too far. way to many people use AIM and most people won't switch until it offers something revolutionary. video chatting would be revolutionary, except now AIM has it.

Originally posted by Lancetx
I guess this proves that Apple isn't the only one that requires the current version of their OS in order to run the newest apps...

actually, AOL is making the software, not MS, so you can't blame them.

[Bunzi2k4]

ok this is what happened when i tried to have a video conference.
the pc user had no web cam, so i was hoping for one way video, possible 2 way audio... no... i just got an error saying so-and-so declined the invitation... this user has a mac and pc, when i do an audio chat with him on his mac, it works.... how do i get a one way video chat going?!?!?!?!

[crees!]

Originally posted by boros
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how the bui;lt-in Mic in my 12" Powerbook should be more of a "Studio Mic" than the iSight that I paid a C-Note for. The whole idea of the iLife Suite is simplicity... a suite for the rest of us. So, it is just plain unaceptable... MAKE IT WORK, APPLE!

I didn't say in any way the built-in mic is a studio mic. Stop the spin. The iSight isn't just a mic. You didn't pay a "C-note" just for its audio capabilities. But if you did I think you should question yourself and the products more before you make any purchasing decisions, in all-do respect. Videoconferencing and recording music are two totally separate things.

[Saints1]

Why would you want to do a one way audio chat? Just sit there and talk to yourself if that is all you want to do.

Also, I have been able to do 2 way audio, 2 way video, and one way video chat succesfully. I am not sure what is going on with the rest of you, but it all works for me. The video from the PC is very choppy and not at all as good as the video when connected to another mac user, but it is a start.

[heathpitts]

invisible to other users:

This can be accomplished by going into prefs and choosing the privacy tab. you can let everyone see you, certain people see you, only your buddies, on no one, or everyone.

This is in response to the aim 5.5 "invisible" question.

[Bunzi2k4]

Originally posted by Saints1
Why would you want to do a one way audio chat? Just sit there and talk to yourself if that is all you want to do.

Also, I have been able to do 2 way audio, 2 way video, and one way video chat succesfully. I am not sure what is going on with the rest of you, but it all works for me. The video from the PC is very choppy and not at all as good as the video when connected to another mac user, but it is a start.

that's what i meant... one way video, i edited my post... right?... man this sux, if only i had a pc with windows xp i could figure it out, but i don't have one...

[Saints1]

Originally posted by Bunzi2k4
that's what i meant... one way video, i edited my post... right?... man this sux, if only i had a pc with windows xp i could figure it out, but i don't have one...


Yeah, I knew what you meant... just trying to poke a little fun at ya! :D

The way it seems to work for me is this... No matter what the setup is, it is showing that my PC buddy has a cam, even if his cam is not connected to the computer. So when I invite him to a video chat, he is able to connect, but I get not video (he has no cam connected). He gets video and we both get audio. When his cam is connected, we both get audio and video. I have not tried to disconnect my cam to see what happens, but I assume that it would act the same, but he would get no video and I would or wouldn't depending on whether or not his cam is connected. I hope that makes sense.

[Bunzi2k4]

-_- ;;

it makes sence, but it doesn't seem to work with my friend with xp and 5.5 installed... he doesn't have a web cam, but i should still be able to connect... right? it says that he cancled the invitation but he said accept, and it says for him that i don't have the right capabilities...?

[Saints1]

update.

I just unplugged my cam and there is no way to audio chat with him now. The mac user has to have a cam connected to do anything. I am sure that this will be corrected in the final release. The system requirements for iChatAV has different requirements for audio and video, so I assume that they plan to have a stand alone audio chat with PC users.

[Saints1]

Originally posted by Bunzi2k4
-_- ;;

it makes sence, but it doesn't seem to work with my friend with xp and 5.5 installed... he doesn't have a web cam, but i should still be able to connect... right? it says that he cancled the invitation but he said accept, and it says for him that i don't have the right capabilities...?

Not sure... it works fine consistantly the way I described (at least for me). My dad and brother have also tested on their machines and it behaves the same way. Have you tried with another PC user? The reason I say that is because my dad, brother, and myself all got the same results, but we all chatted with the same PC user. I guess there may be a chance that there is something wrong on his side. I know that someone posted earlier that there are two different builds for the new AIM. Maybe your bud has the wrong one installed.

[Saints1]

Originally posted by Bunzi2k4
-_- ;;

it makes sence, but it doesn't seem to work with my friend with xp and 5.5 installed... he doesn't have a web cam, but i should still be able to connect... right? it says that he cancled the invitation but he said accept, and it says for him that i don't have the right capabilities...?

Yes, you should be able to one way video chat even with your friend not having a cam.

Does he/she have hispeed internet? I am sure that you have checked that, but I am trying to think of what could be causing the problem. It seems to want to work, but when the chat tries to start you are getting the problem at that point. That to me suggests maybe a bandwidth problem or firewall. Are either of you behind a firewall or wireless router?

[Bunzi2k4]

i use a wireless router, but it isn't a bandwidth problem because i've been able to do a video chat with his mac. i don't have any1 else on my buddy list who is willing to install aim 5.5 right now so... i'm a little stuck...

[Saints1]

Originally posted by Bunzi2k4
i use a wireless router, but it isn't a bandwidth problem because i've been able to do a video chat with his mac. i don't have any1 else on my buddy list who is willing to install aim 5.5 right now so... i'm a little stuck...

If your friend is using a router also, he/she may have to open up whatever ports that AIM is using. AIM does not use the same ports that iChat does so that may be the reason that it works on their mac and not on the PC. Other than that, I don't know. It may be an issue with the beta software. If all these people are having problems I am sure that it will be fixed even before the final release. There will probably be a newer beta release soon. Hang in there.

[jermsmingy]

for those of you having problems. there is a component that windows users need. you can find it here
http://aimtoday.aol.com/features/main_redesign.adp?fid=video_im
I got it working with my friends now

[Kingsnapped]

I'm very impressed just plugging in my DV camera and talking to my girlfriend. I'm going to dig out an old QuickCam from my windows days for her, and maybe get an iSight for me. Two thumbs up!

[neoelectronaut]

So wait, does audio chat through AIM 5.5 work or not?

[Bunzi2k4]

Originally posted by Saints1
If your friend is using a router also, he/she may have to open up whatever ports that AIM is using. AIM does not use the same ports that iChat does so that may be the reason that it works on their mac and not on the PC. Other than that, I don't know. It may be an issue with the beta software. If all these people are having problems I am sure that it will be fixed even before the final release. There will probably be a newer beta release soon. Hang in there.

hmm... i'll try that out...

[Saints1]

Originally posted by Bunzi2k4
hmm... i'll try that out...

Hey, I don't know if you read Jermsmingy reply, but his suggestion could very well be the problem also. Go to this site and there is another component to XP that you have to have in order for AIM to work... http://aimtoday.aol.com/features/main_redesign.adp?fid=video_im

I went and read it and if they do not have this it is not going to work.

Let us know...

[Bunzi2k4]

Originally posted by Saints1
Hey, I don't know if you read Jermsmingy reply, but his suggestion could very well be the problem also. Go to this site and there is another component to XP that you have to have in order for AIM to work... http://aimtoday.aol.com/features/main_redesign.adp?fid=video_im

I went and read it and if they do not have this it is not going to work.

Let us know...

i've tried that, i've been searching in 3 different forums for answers... my friend tried installing RTC 1.2 , but when he did, he got an error message saying this has already been installed...

[jwhitnah]

Nothing new or profound to add. I think this is a smart step but nothing on the order of iTMS for windoz. While Apple needs to stand out as an excellent alternative, it also needs to fit in with peecees.

[Engagebot]

Originally posted by Lancetx
Nah, that's "iLink" or Sony's version of FireWire. It works fine for importing off of a DV camera, but won't work with an iPod or anything that needs power. That's all you'll find on their VAIOs, but HP and others use the real 6 pin IEEE 1394 FireWire.

4 pin firewire is not just specifically iLink. These are both legitimate IEEE 1394 ports. just look at any non-sony dv camera. i've yet to see one with a 6 pin port. you just have to make sure you use a 6 pin port with any device that needs power.

[Engagebot]

Originally posted by boros
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how the bui;lt-in Mic in my 12" Powerbook should be more of a "Studio Mic" than the iSight that I paid a C-Note for. The whole idea of the iLife Suite is simplicity... a suite for the rest of us. So, it is just plain unaceptable... MAKE IT WORK, APPLE!

microphone != microphone

What i mean is the crappy high impedence mic built into either the PB or the iSight is not what you want to make any kind of semi-quality recording. woohoo, you paid $100 for a nice firewire camera....and a mic just to get the job done. big deal, even a run of the mill real mic is going to cost you that much. if you want some real quality, go buy an SM57 for $80 or so (but just a warning, you dont get a free firewire cam with it)

[Engagebot]

Yeah, this is way cool, but its not a huge release like itunes or ipod for pc. its not so much like apple has also given ichat to the windows world, but they've really just un-alienated all of us from the rest of the planet (as far as instant messaging goes).

[blueBomber]

Originally posted by Engagebot
microphone != microphone

What i mean is the crappy high impedence mic built into either the PB or the iSight is not what you want to make any kind of semi-quality recording. woohoo, you paid $100 for a nice firewire camera....and a mic just to get the job done. big deal, even a run of the mill real mic is going to cost you that much. if you want some real quality, go buy an SM57 for $80 or so (but just a warning, you dont get a free firewire cam with it)

You could always do what I do; hook up your Canon XL-1 to iChat so you can brag about having a webcam that cost four grand. :D

[Saints1]

Originally posted by Engagebot
4 pin firewire is not just specifically iLink. These are both legitimate IEEE 1394 ports. just look at any non-sony dv camera. i've yet to see one with a 6 pin port. you just have to make sure you use a 6 pin port with any device that needs power.

iLink absolutely has no power. That is why it is called iLink and not firewire. Sony did not want to pay Apple in order to use firewire so they removed the power portion and called it iLink. They are totally two different things.

DV cameras use too much power to draw power from the computer so it uses its own power, therefore does not need a true powered firewire cable.

[pb1212580]

Yes, It's working!!!
I'm running pb G4 1ghz 1.25ram
he's running xp.

I have isight and iChatAV Beta downloaded earlier today. he's just updated AIM 5.5 from5.2.

Video and Audio are both working SMOOTHLY. Apparently very good video (he works for a film company, too!) :)

I am so glad it works.

BUGS I've noticed and sent to Apple.
Now the problem is.
His icon shows VIDEO but does not show anything when I don't have the iSight plugged in.
When we're connected (I double clicked on his video icon and was accepted), it's garbage on the video screen here but he can see and hear me fine.

He did not have a cam nor mic. all ONE WAY.

Just found a bug.
I unplugged iSight. then clicked on my own video icon and iChat just quits.

Hope this gives some hope! It's working!

[Bunzi2k4]

hey... uh... if any1 has windowz xp, i wouldn't mind trying it out, i just wanna know how well it works... well im me at bunzi2k4 (aim).

[Engagebot]

Originally posted by Saints1
iLink absolutely has no power. That is why it is called iLink and not firewire. Sony did not want to pay Apple in order to use firewire so they removed the power portion and called it iLink. They are totally two different things.

DV cameras use too much power to draw power from the computer so it uses its own power, therefore does not need a true powered firewire cable.

they are not two different things. the IEEE supports both specifications of the same interface.

apple only owns the trademark on the name 'firewire', they dont have any say over the specifications of the actual interface. thats why we have the IEEE. In the same way, sony only owns the trademark to the name 'iLink', not the 4pin IEEE1394 interface. Sony didnt have to change something about 1394 to keep apple off their back. its just that for whatever reason, sony chooses to ship the majority of their machines with 4 pin instead of 6 pin 1394.

1394 isnt up for revisions by any manufacturer. thats what the IEEE is. the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers is the industry's standards institute.

'Airport' is an apple branded name, but its based on the IEEE 802.11b standard. the standard was developed and agreed upon at the IEEE. apple just trademarked a name.

[Sped]

I can only audio chat one-way even after the pc user installed the xp component. Also, half the time, i get the no data after 10 seconds error. I hope these are fixed soon because I have been waiting to video chat with my family for awhile.

[pb1212580]

A little tip I forgot to pass on earlier from my PC friend Scott.

He said that he HAD to click on my name on the list in AIM 5.5 to be able to see my video. Otherwise it defaults to his "cam" which he didnt' have any when we conducted the experiment.

Hope that helps...

[Bunzi2k4]

ok... i found the problem with connecting. he has one of the three linksys routers that doesn't accept video im

[mugwump]

Wow, just finished my first video chat ever with some family in Nashville. Absolutely perfect connection, no issues, lasted for half an hour, great!

They were using a usb camera into some sort of breakout box on their end, into a IBM thinkpad running XP and AIM 5.5.

I had my Sony DV camera attached to iChat via firewire, which of course looked great to them.

One thing, I guess the video image was tiny on their end of things. So AIM doesn't have adjustable window size?

Anyhow, great technology!

--One more thing, they had it set up to automatically accept all chats, so we just appeared onto the Thinkpad screen in video form. Great!

[Rick Friele]

Originally posted by mugwump
One thing, I guess the video image was tiny on their end of things. So AIM doesn't have adjustable window size?

Nope. Can't change the video size from what I've seen.

[bobbyp80521]

no one way and no audio??? booo

[Rick Friele]

One problem I have noticed is that my audio is very choppy on the other end. I am using a Sony DV cam with AIM 5.5.

[MacBoyX]

Originally posted by heathpitts
invisible to other users:

This can be accomplished by going into prefs and choosing the privacy tab. you can let everyone see you, certain people see you, only your buddies, on no one, or everyone.

This is in response to the aim 5.5 "invisible" question.


Ahh...not the same. Yes you can choose to block people, choose to allow people but it's not the same.

In Yahoo! and now AIM 5.5 when you are invisible no one can see you but you can see everyone. On iChat, when you put someone on the block list, they can't see you but you can't see them either. It's a big difference. Again, I like when I am on Yahoo! Messenger at work I can go on, find the coworker I need and IM him without anyone else knowing I am there, but I can also choose to say Hi to a friend as well without having to have thought ahead of time to say don't block so and so. And to the other person who told me to use away, all my Mac friends know that means nothing so they IM any way, very embarassing if someone is in my cube and see an IM pop up. This feature really needs to be in iChat.

macboyX

[mrzippy]

I got it working :)

I forwarded all ports listed and still did not work, then I removed the NAT Binding for SIP port 5060 in my router and it now works (apple document I posted before notes something about SIP settings in routers)....

Will remove port forwards later and see if it still works.

Yes audio and video worked both ends :)

Quality OK on audio, video not good but friend had USB Cam.

Hopefully this will improve.

[mrzippy]

YES YES YES

All port forwards removed from the router and it still works.

Either end can start the call and works fine :)

Just remove any SIP port 5060 NAT Helper/Binding from your router

[johnnyjibbs]

I guess some of the problems stem from the fact that two different companies (Apple and AOL) are trying to independently develop software together to make it work. This is probably harder to do than seems for us, hence the beta and hence the problems. As this is a beta release, I wouldn't worry if not everything works as it should yet.

Regarding non-resizable video on AIM, well it's another reason to own a Mac!

So far, has anyone actually got a 2-way audio-only chat going, with no web cams on either computer? It's hard to tell from all of the above posts, but currently this would be my only option. I'm waiting for a reply from my family at home that they've downloaded AIM and got that old microphone out of the attic. Too bad everyone I know has MSN...

[djdarlek]

Originally posted by Stike
I just found out... the download button does not appear in Safari 1.2. Bad bad bad publicity for Apple, I think :(

I have latest Safari update and the download button was there for me :D

[Aeolius]

I still wish iChat AV had the //roll dice command that AIM has (//roll-diceX-sidesY). Then I could use iChat for a chat-based game of Dungeons & Dragons.

[crees!]

Originally posted by johnnyjibbs
I guess some of the problems stem from the fact that two different companies (Apple and AOL) are trying to independently develop software together to make it work. This is probably harder to do than seems for us, hence the beta and hence the problems. As this is a beta release, I wouldn't worry if not everything works as it should yet.

Is AIM 5.5 a beta or full release? If it's full it seems Apple has to conform more to AOL, as we're just at beta.

[pb1212580]

Just anote. Worked fine last night when I tried it. PC's got XP and crappy $15 webcam with mic built into computer.

me iSight pb g4.

Audio is very delayed ( at least going from my side though earlier test with a different person resulted in both smooth audio and video ONE WAY)

picture is good.

So,YES... 2 way or one way Video/Audio.

[johnnyjibbs]

That's good to hear. I've got to work more on my family and friends for them to get Macs :D. My mum loves my PowerBook and can see how getting a Mac would provide them with an all-in-one solution for everything, then says she's happy with our new Dell..

[Powerbook G5]

I got my parents wanting an iMac after seeing how problem free and happy I have been with my two PowerBooks while they have had one nightmare after another with their PCs, the only problem was that an iMac was $1500 while the Dell they bought instead was only $980. My parents just couldn't justify paying over $1100 tops for a computer and my dad didn't want to look at an eMac because he was all about getting an LCD display.

[boros]

... and what I mean is that Macintoshes should just work... period. Yes, I know that the quality from my $100 iSight mic would probably be poor, but it may be good enough to play with GarageBand. The quality of the iSight mic on my desktop would also probably be better in many respects than the mic built into my Powerbook. This is, after all, an "i" Suite. The problem is that now I have to use two microphones with my Mac. My Mac just got more complicated to use, more wires, less desktop, etc.

I just want things to work like a Macintosh should...

I also really wish they'd get audio support for Yahoo Chat!


Originally posted by Engagebot
microphone != microphone

What i mean is the crappy high impedence mic built into either the PB or the iSight is not what you want to make any kind of semi-quality recording. woohoo, you paid $100 for a nice firewire camera....and a mic just to get the job done. big deal, even a run of the mill real mic is going to cost you that much. if you want some real quality, go buy an SM57 for $80 or so (but just a warning, you dont get a free firewire cam with it)

[7on]

Could someone explain to me why two friend of mine do not have webcams, yet they have video icons next to their names? (clicking the video icons says no packets received after 10 seconds).

[johnnyjibbs]

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I got my parents wanting an iMac after seeing how problem free and happy I have been with my two PowerBooks while they have had one nightmare after another with their PCs, the only problem was that an iMac was $1500 while the Dell they bought instead was only $980. My parents just couldn't justify paying over $1100 tops for a computer and my dad didn't want to look at an eMac because he was all about getting an LCD display.
Yep, the Dell was cheaper. Next time, I'll try and persuade them to consider a Mac. The Dell they have now will run my mum's PC-only Family Tree software (not that they can't still use my old PC for that anyway) but my Dad only uses Excel so he'd be fine with a Mac. It would be great to video conference with my parents at the weekend instead of them complaining about the phone bill.

[crees!]

Originally posted by boros
... and what I mean is that Macintoshes should just work... period. Yes, I know that the quality from my $100 iSight mic would probably be poor, but it may be good enough to play with GarageBand. The quality of the iSight mic on my desktop would also probably be better in many respects than the mic built into my Powerbook. This is, after all, an "i" Suite. The problem is that now I have to use two microphones with my Mac. My Mac just got more complicated to use, more wires, less desktop, etc.

I just want things to work like a Macintosh should...

Sorry, but you just don't get it. Obviously you're fairly new when it comes to quality recording and equipment. This is what Apple is about.. quality, and it doesn't come in one flavor.

[pody]

So, is it possible to do 2-way audio chat WITHOUT a webcam or not?
I doesn't seem to work for me :(

[Engagebot]

Originally posted by crees!
Sorry, but you just don't get it. Obviously you're fairly new when it comes to quality recording and equipment. This is what Apple is about.. quality, and it doesn't come in one flavor.

thank you.

please, if you dont know the first thing about audio recording techniques, please dont complain about microphones.

[pb1212580]

My experience tells me that iChat is trying to be smart and letting you know that you can do ONE WAY video chat with your friend!

That's what I did last night with a friend w/o a webcam nor mic.

Originally posted by 7on
Could someone explain to me why two friend of mine do not have webcams, yet they have video icons next to their names? (clicking the video icons says no packets received after 10 seconds).

[TorbX]

WHY cant they just dont make up with MSN Messenger allready!? NONE of my friends here in Norway use AIM, all of them use MSN!

I installed AIM on my girlfriends XP pc today, and played around with iChat on my own computer, and I just WHISH....!!! ...That it could be compatible with MSN!

PLEASE, Apple! Pretty please with Suger on Top!?

Or Microsoft, PLEASE give us apple-users an MSN 6.x for OS X...

Later,
TorbX

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by 7on
Could someone explain to me why two friend of mine do not have webcams, yet they have video icons next to their names? (clicking the video icons says no packets received after 10 seconds).

it could be the one way video, or it could be a bug that it shows up when they have the right version and they could do videochat if they get a webcam

i want to try and find someone that i know to try this with, but not everyone has webcams.

[crees!]

Originally posted by TorbX
WHY cant they just dont make up with MSN Messenger allready!?

Let's try "Why don't they just make up with MSN..." :D

[Wash!!]

the name "Microsuck Network" and to give a clue is the Microsuck name in it. Apple will never make work with it.

peace

[meghop]

Originally posted by ectocooler
i cant believe no one is bothered by the excessive data limit errors. windows aim sucks because of this.

"The AIM service could not send the message: You have sent too much data too quickly. Please wait a little while before sending more."

I'm getting this contantly. especially while talking multiple people.

this is really making me angry. i NEVER got this with 2.0

Yes, this is fantastically annoying, and has rendered this beta almost completely unusable for me. I get the message so frequently it's making me want to pull my hair right out. I think I am reverting to 2.0 - I usually am on board with betas, but this is kinda ridiculous - I can't chat at the speed I usually do, with the number of people I usually do, without getting this very annoying error every few minutes. :( Oh well, none of the PC people I know are techno-sophisticated enough to have XP, AIM 5.5, and a webcam anyway. lol

[Sped]

I am still unable to audio chat with my brother? What gives? I am sure this will be fixed in the final release but I can't understand why it is working for some folks but not others. Anyone have suggestions?

[TrojanAvenger]

I don't know anyone that has even a webcam to try out the iChat video features. Can someone help me test this out?

AIM: TrojanAvenger

[ScotRobson]

My friend downloaded Aim 5.5 on her PC, ahd no camera attatched.

She could hear me
She could see me
I could hear her

There was no option for just audio though, i'm not sure if there should have been.

Just wanted to let you all know.

Scot

[ScotRobson]

Originally posted by meghop
Yes, this is fantastically annoying, and has rendered this beta almost completely unusable for me. I get the message so frequently it's making me want to pull my hair right out. I think I am reverting to 2.0 - I usually am on board with betas, but this is kinda ridiculous - I can't chat at the speed I usually do, with the number of people I usually do, without getting this very annoying error every few minutes. :( Oh well, none of the PC people I know are techno-sophisticated enough to have XP, AIM 5.5, and a webcam anyway. lol

I am getting this when chatting to other iChat users aswell and have to keep closing the chat window to talk to them again. :mad:

Scot

[Heart Break Kid]

*crosses fingers*

It's Only a Beta. It's Only a Beta. It's Only a Beta. It's Only a Beta. It's Only a Beta. It's Only a Beta. It's Only a Beta. It's Only a Beta. It's Only a Beta.

..... phewf. that made me feel better.

[TorbX]

Hello everybody.

Does anybody have any experience with iSight behind (university) firewalls? I am a little sceptic to buying an iSight. What if I could not see my friends because of a firewall...?

The administrator at this networld is a old, tired, overworked dude who does not like questions. He can't help.

Later,
TorbX.

[floatingspirit]

I cant even get audio to work from Mac to Mac. We both have DSL. Could my G3 be too sluggish?

Gonna try with AIM after the family gets it installed...

iChat is the coolest and most useless app on my awesome Mac, (since I have no Mac using chat buddies). Hope this development goes forward fast!

(i got a button to dl with too ^_*)

[ScotRobson]

Originally posted by floatingspirit
I cant even get audio to work from Mac to Mac. We both have DSL. Could my G3 be too sluggish?

Gonna try with AIM after the family gets it installed...

iChat is the coolest and most useless app on my awesome Mac, (since I have no Mac using chat buddies). Hope this development goes forward fast!

(i got a button to dl with too ^_*)

im using G3 600mhz (minimum requirements and its working great!

Scot

[bennetsaysargh]

i'd like to add in iChatUSBCam adds in all G3 support. it even made my 400 Mhz G3 iMac work with one way video because i didn't have a camera.

[splashman]

Originally posted by floatingspirit
I cant even get audio to work from Mac to Mac. We both have DSL. Could my G3 be too sluggish?


Audio chat works fine on my wife's 600 Mhz G3 iBook, too.

[Perceptes]

What I really want is for them to add "Live Video IM" to the Mac version of AIM, then I'd never have to use sorry ass iChat ever again. But this does help, because the quality and frame rate I've gotten with iChat/AIM XP is much better than I was getting with Yahoo Instant Messenger.

[johnnyjibbs]

Ok, I've finally got my mum to download AIM 5.5 and can text chat with her in iChat (my only buddy!)

She says it says i'm not available for audio chat. Maybe her pc is not recognising her microphone.

She doesn't appear as a phone symbol on my buddy list.

Is this the same problem everyone else has been having? My mum's on XP.

[TorbX]

Originally posted by johnnyjibbs
Ok, I've finally got my mum to download AIM 5.5 and can text chat with her in iChat (my only buddy!)

She says it says i'm not available for audio chat. Maybe her pc is not recognising her microphone.

She doesn't appear as a phone symbol on my buddy list.

Is this the same problem everyone else has been having? My mum's on XP.

Same as me and my girlfriend!

My girlfriend has a Logithech Quickcam, so she was able to request a videochat with me. I could see her, she couldn't see me, but we could hear each other.

Audio Chat was not possible either way.

Get your mom to check out prefs.

Later,
TorbX

[magi.sys]

well looks like ichat still has no encryption support. Until it has this kind of support it will only be useful for the average consumer and not for businesses.

[mrzippy]

Originally posted by TorbX
WHY cant they just dont make up with MSN Messenger allready!? NONE of my friends here in Norway use AIM, all of them use MSN!

I installed AIM on my girlfriends XP pc today, and played around with iChat on my own computer, and I just WHISH....!!! ...That it could be compatible with MSN!

PLEASE, Apple! Pretty please with Suger on Top!?

Or Microsoft, PLEASE give us apple-users an MSN 6.x for OS X...

Later,
TorbX

I used to use Window$ XP :/ and MSN Messenger, voice and video chat was never stable or reliable, iChatAV 2.1beta connects straight away and seems stable.

Audio quality was better on MSN messenger, but iChatAV 2.1 is a beta so that could improve.

[TorbX]

Originally posted by mrzippy
I used to use Window$ XP :/ and MSN Messenger, voice and video chat was never stable or reliable, iChatAV 2.1beta connects straight away and seems stable.

Audio quality was better on MSN messenger, but iChatAV 2.1 is a beta so that could improve.

I could live with the quality I've seen on Windows XP machines.

I whish iChat could be made for Windows XP, just like iTunes. Sell the iPod with iTunes, sell the iSight with iChat.

[johnnyjibbs]

I hope they would, then it will solve all my problems. My mum said that AIM had a horrible and very intrusive interface. Plus we couldn't get the damn thing to work for audio.

I've submitted two feedback requests to Apple: one about my problems in getting an audio chat to work (i.e. it didn't), and the other is a feature request for MSN compatibility. It ain't ever going to happen but I can hope. Even if it just worked for text-based chat. I love iChat's interface over MSN's and all the problems I've been having with it.

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by TorbX
I could live with the quality I've seen on Windows XP machines.

I whish iChat could be made for Windows XP, just like iTunes. Sell the iPod with iTunes, sell the iSight with iChat.

now that AIM has the capabilities for video chatting, i don't see what the advantage would be unless if they come out with something revolutionary (not seen ever in anything else) in iChat. they wouldn't waste the money to develop something only some mac people would use on their windows boxes.

maybe iLife for windows (iTunes is already there, all they need is iMovie, iDVD and iPhoto), but not iChat.

i know a few friends who love iMovie, but have windows at home. and my neighbor is amazed that i can burn a DVD, and he likes iPhoto. (he also wants an iPod mini :p)

[johnnyjibbs]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
maybe iLife for windows (iTunes is already there, all they need is iMovie, iDVD and iPhoto), but not iChat.
iLife will never come out for Windows because it is a device to draw people to the Mac. The great selling point for a Mac is its all-in-one solution for most family computers - get one and you've got a working solution for storing and editing your photos, family movies and then burn them to DVD for safekeeping. Now you can make music too with GarageBand. Putting these on Windows negates the need to get the Mac, especially as things like iLife are sold far cheaper than they could be to gain adoption of the Mac.

iTunes was a concession that was made to allow the iPod to flourish in the PC worlds as well as allowing the money-making (not that much but still not a loss-making initiative) iTunes Music Store.

iChat AV for Windows would be good because we could all chat in harmony and this would help Mac/PC compatibility. The problem is, they'd have to charge $30 for it or Jaguar users would be up in arms, and I can't see many people wanting to pay for it when other solutions are free. That said, they could sell it with the iSight and make money that way...

[TorbX]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
now that AIM has the capabilities for video chatting, i don't see what the advantage would be unless if they come out with something revolutionary (not seen ever in anything else) in iChat. they wouldn't waste the money to develop something only some mac people would use on their windows boxes.

Come on, have you ever SEEN AIM 5.5? It's not exactly user friendly! Buttons and text here and there, commercial there and menus everywhere.

Compared to iChat and MSN Messenger, its useless.

Later,
TorbX.

[johnnyjibbs]

From what I've heard from my mum and brother at home, I'd agree. iChat AV for Windows would solve all my problems too, as I know no-one with a Mac.

[bennetsaysargh]

a lot of people i know won't use it, but if i was on windows and using aim that's a different story. it looks ugly :p and there are the ads. and now the ads talk! that
's horrible. if you're listening to something, and then it comes on. it's horrible.

[7on]

iChatAV for the pc would not solve the problem. Noone you know will purchase iChat for $30 when they get AIM for free. Also people complain that no-one they know uses AIM, well it'd be the same problem if Apple released iChat for the PC, no-one would use it.

[TorbX]

Originally posted by 7on
iChatAV for the pc would not solve the problem. Noone you know will purchase iChat for $30 when they get AIM for free. Also people complain that no-one they know uses AIM, well it'd be the same problem if Apple released iChat for the PC, no-one would use it.

Whats this fuzz about paying for iChat? I've never payed anything.

Right now, I'm a little upset with AOL. How the H*LL are they thinking? WHY all these ads? The chat window is also ugly, lots of buttons and crap.

Of course people would use a free iChat on the PC. Its nice to keep on the desktop. My friends wont use AOL AIM _ONLY_ because it is ugly. But if I told them that I was on iChat, sure they would keep it there. It's even slicker than MSN - i guess they would migrate totally.

Apple should go with the flow on this one.

[johnnyjibbs]

Originally posted by TorbX
Whats this fuzz about paying for iChat? I've never payed anything.

Right now, I'm a little upset with AOL. How the H*LL are they thinking? WHY all these ads? The chat window is also ugly, lots of buttons and crap.

Of course people would use a free iChat on the PC. Its nice to keep on the desktop. My friends wont use AOL AIM _ONLY_ because it is ugly. But if I told them that I was on iChat, sure they would keep it there. It's even slicker than MSN - i guess they would migrate totally.

Apple should go with the flow on this one.
iChat AV is free for Panther users.

iChat AV is $30 for Jaguar users.
Therefore iChat AV for Windows would have to be $30 (or else Jaguar users will want their money back!)

[djdarlek]

Well i'm a happy bunny at least, FINALLY been able to have a 2 way video chat with someone! and to a certain extend it was thoroughly enjoyable! ok, so it cut out every now and then, and a few connection problems, but we are trying to connect two beta progs on two different OS's!

It is VITAL that iChat becomes compatible with both AOL *AND* MSN for it to be much use to anyone. And by the looks of it, it may be obtainable!

Surely Micro$oft relations aren't too bad with Apple, surely it would almost be an advantage to them to just DITCH development of their crappy MSN client (ok, i like it actually, except they are cheeky bastards! ; i noticed i am running 3.5 the latest version, but it keeps on reminding me to d/l a newer one. i tried the 'upgrade' at work and it turns out all Microsoft do is turn OFF the option to get rid of adverts!)

if they spent their time trying to make the Current MSN for PC work with iChat, surely they would earn a lot of kudos?

[bennetsaysargh]

i don't know anyone who uses MSN. all of my friends use aim. i don't know why. it must be a monroe woodbury thing :rolleyes:

[Engagebot]

yeah i dont know anybody that consistently uses MSN. i did use it for one thing. my g/f and i talked on webcams when i was gone for a summer (summer before last), and turned out MSN was the easiest way to do it at the time.

of course both of us were on pc's at the time...

[djdarlek]

Originally posted by Engagebot
yeah i dont know anybody that consistently uses MSN. .

i think its a UK/USA thing.. nobody uses AIM over here unless they wanna chat with our USA 'buddies'

[Dahl]

Originally posted by djdarlek
i think its a UK/USA thing.. nobody uses AIM over here unless they wanna chat with our USA 'buddies'
I think you're right.

[johnnyjibbs]

What's annoying is that most of my friends (all with PCs) have only recently started to 'chat' and all use MSN. I bet it was just because that was the one that Windows tries to get you to use :(. Half of them probably hadn't heard of AIM or Yahoo...

[Dahl]

Ask them to try something else. :)

[johnnyjibbs]

Originally posted by Dahl
Ask them to try something else. :)
Apparently AIM is really horrid to use with talking adverts and banners.

[TorbX]

Originally posted by johnnyjibbs
Apparently AIM is really horrid to use with talking adverts and banners.

Yes, it REALLY is. One of my friends I talked into triyng AIM for my sake (I wanted to use iChat for once) said: "This program will cause me BUCKETS of spam! Just by the looks of it, it will!"

Later,
TorbX.

[ingenious]

Hey. I have a an XP at home with AIM 5.5 (hate the pc) and a 12" PB with iChat AV and the pc said that the pb had video, not audio, but obviously does, cuz whats the use of vid w/o aud? Anyway, it was saying "one-way vid" but the pc was connecting and the pb timed out........ i never could connect. I hope that the real thing fixes this, but then again, i was on the same LAN so that could be it. Apple's not one to prelease a piece of software that doesn't work....



Caleb

P.S. still can't figure out the avatar, just new to this forum and it's different....

[Jason_Bryan]

Well I thought I would take the plunge and buy myself a iSight. I had no problems setting it up to video chat with my old WindowsXP Pro box. I can't set up audio only, but then I don't need to at the moment.

[johnnyjibbs]

Originally posted by Calebj14
P.S. still can't figure out the avatar, just new to this forum and it's different....
You have to post 500 times before you get to have an avatar..

Anyway, so no-one can get audio-only chat to work? Looks like I might have to steal some webcam from someone... Hopefully Apple can fix this ASAP.

[hockeygirl]

hey everyone,

Im not sure if this issue has come up, but here's my problem. I have had and isight for about a month now, works great with my friends/family who have macs...but it seems those pc's are trouble makers.

I have been trying to connect with my sister who has a pc, a microphone, aim 5.5, xp, a fast processor above 1 gig. We both have cable modem connection speeds. She has gotten her mic to work with other pc's

I keep trying to invite to video chat (there is no option for one way video chat). but everytime i clik the video chat icon or the invite to video chat from the menubar (one way is greyed), a window appears for video chat on my sisters end but it says:

hockeygirl45 is not accepting Talk invitations or does not support the Talk feature.

if she tries to start a video chat with me then, she gets a message saying that im not responding.

i don't understand, since one of us has a camera, this should work, right?

any ideas?

thanks for your help!

-lori

[TorbX]

Originally posted by johnnyjibbs
Anyway, so no-one can get audio-only chat to work? Looks like I might have to steal some webcam from someone... Hopefully Apple can fix this ASAP.

Check out www.skype.com !

Works behind firewalls and everything - but it does not exist for mac. YET! At their help-pages, you can throw in a vote at it. With enough votes, they'll make a Mac-version! That could turn in to ONE CANDY APP! Brushed metal, nifty sounds, etc...

[ThatGirl]

I've read and read these posts, and I'm afraid I'm just confused. Sorry. Please be patient-I'm just learning.

I used to be able to voice chat in Yahoo Chat and in AIM. Suddenly, that capability disappeared. Is there any way to get back in and voice chat in either of those programs? I am on an iMac running Safari 10.2.8.

I'm not interested in video, ONLY audio.
Thanks.

[TorbX]

Originally posted by ThatGirl
I've read and read these posts, and I'm afraid I'm just confused. Sorry. Please be patient-I'm just learning.

I used to be able to voice chat in Yahoo Chat and in AIM. Suddenly, that capability disappeared. Is there any way to get back in and voice chat in either of those programs? I am on an iMac running Safari 10.2.8.

I'm not interested in video, ONLY audio.
Thanks.

As mentioned, www.skype.com for mac is what we want. Its genious.

[ThatGirl]

Thanks TorbX. So what you are saying is there is no way until they make a Mac version of Skype?

[TorbX]

Originally posted by ThatGirl
Thanks TorbX. So what you are saying is there is no way until they make a Mac version of Skype?

Sort of.

1. Most of my friends is on MSN, and they dont want to switch to AIM.

2. There wont be coming a 6.1 version of MSN to mac...

3. iChat won't come to PC.

4. MSN / AIM / iChat does not work behind firewalls on the protocolls sound uses. Skype does!!

Everybody will have an interest in installing Skype, even if they are on a working messenger from before. It works extremely good, its got a nice interface, it uses so little badwith that it must be very cool while gaming, and so on.

[floatingspirit]

So can the iSight be used if I and my partner are both using Yahoo Messenger?

This isn't an iChat question, but I have given up on it for now because from Mac to Mac I couldn't get 2-way audio going between version 2.0 and the Jaguar version....

[floatingspirit]

Originally posted by TorbX
Check out www.skype.com !

Works behind firewalls and everything - but it does not exist for mac. YET! At their help-pages, you can throw in a vote at it. With enough votes, they'll make a Mac-version! That could turn in to ONE CANDY APP! Brushed metal, nifty sounds, etc...


I registered with them and palced my vote for a Mac version. Currently the there are more Linux users requesting that a version be made for them than there are Mac users with the same request. 301 to 257

[Dahl]

Have any of the bugs been fixed yet ?
Or have most of you given up on it for now ?

[johnnyjibbs]

I really cannot get audio chat to work with AIM and iChat. None of us have cameras, but I'm eying up a cheap iSight on eBay. If I can get one of those babies for half price, then I'll get it in future hope of video conferencing. It seems that chats work if at least one of the party has a webcam attached.

[TorbX]

Originally posted by floatingspirit
So can the iSight be used if I and my partner are both using Yahoo Messenger?

This isn't an iChat question, but I have given up on it for now because from Mac to Mac I couldn't get 2-way audio going between version 2.0 and the Jaguar version....

you've got ibook 500. Thats too weak.

[burlsnuff]

Over the weekend I set up iSight and iChat AV v2.1 to have audio and video chats with my mom who is a PC user and is using AOL AIM 5.5, her camera is a Logitech Quickcam Zoom. After much fussing we were able to get the video chats going, but the problem is is that she can hear me but I cannot hear her - we cannot also use the audio chat option.

Has anyone else had these problems? We have checked and re-checked each other settings and troubleshot it to death through the Logitech website - but still no audio on my end - yes my speakers are on and I can play music and movies etc.

Much thanks to anyone to can help.

[pb1212580]

Just FYI,
I've setup OS 10.3 on a Blue and White 350Mhz tower running iChatAV and iSight!

Tested many times. Video and Audio quality normal. Uses iChatUSB to enable video. No big problems there and they constantly update the utility.

you've got ibook 500. Thats too weak.

[afehrenbach]

So, does anyone know at this point when we will be able to have audio chats with Windows users using AIM? Or when this final version of iChat is going to be released? :confused:

[wwooden]

So, does anyone know at this point when we will be able to have audio chats with Windows users using AIM? Or when this final version of iChat is going to be released? :confused:

umm....I really don't know where to start to answer that question..........I hope that was a joke. :confused: