10.15 is out...now

[Smoot]

10.1.5 Available
Update 10.1.5 delivers enhancements which improve the reliability of Mac OS X applications, delivers improved networking, security, support for PC Card serial communication devices, and expanded peripheral device support. Specific improvements include:

Peripheral Device Support:
– Expanded support for new Canon digital cameras.
– Improved support for Nikon FireWire cameras.
– Expanded support for SmartDisk, EZQuest, and LaCie disc recording devices.
– Improved support for MO drives.

Application Improvements:
– Increased stability of Mail and Sherlock.
– Emails are properly retained when rebuilding the Draft mailbox.
– Support for 2D and QuickTime hardware acceleration for Rage Pro.
– Updated Carbon applications can use Quartz anti-aliasing technology for high quality text display.

Networking and Security Improvements:
– Improves networking via AFP when accessing multi-level directories on Windows NT file servers.
– Significant improvement to file searching on local and remote volumes.
– Includes a generic PC Card driver to support a variety of PC Card modems.
– Mail accounts go offline to indicate that SSL encryption settings are not supported by mail server.
– Includes the Security Update April 2002.

WebDAV Improvements:
– More efficient iDisk mounting and file navigation.
– Added support for connecting to iDisk using default DNS settings of AirPort.
– Support for mounting a WebDAV volume from a non-standard http port.

Asian Language Improvements:
– Significant updates to the Korean Input Method, especially important when using AppleWorks.
– Internet Connect and AirPort applications updated with Chinese and Korean localized content.

[Bradcoe]

WOO!!! I love software system updates. The bigger the better. It's downloading now!

[jasonpaul75]

check it out on software update

[chibianh]

darn.. beat me to it.. heh

[Bradcoe]

I love it! Word now uses (and I presume all other office apps too) aa text! 10.1.5 and office v. x are a great combo. I used office v. x with 10.1.4 and it was quick. now with anti-aliased text in 10.1.5 it is STILL quick (the aa text didnt slow it down on my 500mhz ibook) and beautiful. idisk is quick. ive got quicktime 6 preview. loads in under 2 bounces (ive got 384mb ram) hmmm overall, im very pleased. timing between two huge companies (apple and microsoft) is wonderful. Office update one day to take advantge of new features. The next day the OS with the new features is out. Now THATS ******** teamwork!!!

[AmbitiousLemon]

sorry but M$ delayed the release of 10.1.5 for over a month because they were so behind apple. hardly team work if you ask me.

[jasonpaul75]

Yes its nice to see things happen...but if these guys would ever get over their agendas and focus on building a fantastic product I will lose...IT.

Simply amazing how quickly messenger 3.0 came out after the announcement of ichat...Too bad the file transfer won't work over Messenger...i think its my firewall...i wonder just how long that app has been ready....Can you imagine how many other things are readied in the torpedo tubes waiting for release....whenever they feel the pressure from the competition.

[Classic]

Finally, with OS 10.1.5 my DP800 can go into deep sleep. I have a PCI SCSI card installed (that was BTO from Apple), and my system has never been able to go to deep sleep in OS X.

Finally, this has been fixed with 10.1.5

Yoohoo!!!

[Backtothemac]

OMG!!!!!!!! IE is soooo much faster with scrolling now! I have to check other stuff as well, but the AA is very nice, as is the scrolling speed.

[chmorley]

Are you saying your IE is using AA? Mine is not.

Chris

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
OMG!!!!!!!! IE is soooo much faster with scrolling now! I have to check other stuff as well, but the AA is very nice, as is the scrolling speed.

I agree, it is much nicer. I've had some issues with IE not displaying things correctly after its been in use, I'll have to watch carefully to see if this continues, or if its been fixed.

The browse button for the attach file still doesn't display correctly.

[big]

damn, I can no longer make you all glut over my 10.1.5 build...I'll just have to install 10.2 sooner or later and still be ahead of the game. enjoy boys & girls.

[Backtothemac]

No, the AA is in Word, or all of office actually. The thing that I am really impressed with is the 2D support for the Rage Pro. Sheets and the Genie are very fluid now. I cannot wait to see the final build of X.2. There is no way that they are showing us everything.

[Falleron]

Who knows when the IE update is coming out?

[Royal Pineapple]

Originally posted by Bradcoe
Now THATS ******** teamwork!!!
a tanacious D fan in our midst, i approve
-royal:D :D :D

[Royal Pineapple]

Originally posted by big
damn, I can no longer make you all glut over my 10.1.5 build...I'll just have to install 10.2 sooner or later and still be ahead of the game. enjoy boys & girls.
ive been using 10.2 for the last coupple of weeks, and it crashes alot.
also my verson of 10.2 server shiped without the regrestration key, they said that it was on the back of the CD case but it wasent, does anyone else know anithying about this mistake
-royal

[Gelfin]

Originally posted by Royal Pineapple

ive been using 10.2 for the last coupple of weeks, and it crashes alot.
also my verson of 10.2 server shiped without the regrestration key, they said that it was on the back of the CD case but it wasent, does anyone else know anithying about this mistake
-royal

Well, surely you'll be able to call Apple Support and they'll correct this oversight.

*snicker*

[alex_ant]

The 10.1.5 update finally allows the rev. B PBG4 to drive an external display with the lid closed! Hallelujah!

[TiMacLover]

Ahh!!! I need the update but I am on a network in which software update does not work, can anyone help out!?

[edesignuk]

Yi-Pee! At last! Think I'll get it quick before I have to shoot off to work. :D

[Royal Pineapple]

Originally posted by Gelfin


Well, surely you'll be able to call Apple Support and they'll correct this oversight.

*snicker*
thats what i fuigured but i got the regular version of Jaguar working so i fuigured that i neadn't use the server edition, if i had an x-serve i would think otherwise but on my 500mhz iBook... well you understand
i was mearly wondering if anyone else had this problem
-royal

[j763]

Apple is pissing me off -- they haven't updated their S/W Updates (http://www.apple.com/swupdates) page... sure, they can update the main OS X page with a nice new little graphic up the top and put the description at the side of their "look how great software update is" -- no problems, but when it comes to making the download actually available over HTTP, well, they can't do that, can they!

it's only really minor, but you'd think they would have automated this by now!

[britboy]

Nice to have another update (and a reasonably major one at that), but my digital camcorder still isn't supported under OS X. In OS 9 iMovie recognises it, but X still insists on saying "Camera Disconnected". I wonder how long it'll take before that's fixed? :(

[backspinner]

Originally posted by alex_ant
The 10.1.5 update finally allows the rev. B PBG4 to drive an external display with the lid closed! Hallelujah!
Can you tell how to do this?

[sluthy]

I've had really bad experiences with Software Update, especially for larger downloads like this one. Can anybody find a normal .dmg.gz download, so I can use iGetter or something that can resume?

[j763]

sluthy, you'll find one here eventually (http://www.apple.com/swupdates)... it's not up yet and like you, i find software update stuffs updates quite often, so i can't wait for apple to put it up so I can actually use it!

[blogo]

Hmm, wheres my aa??! I guess Apple just waited for me to update and sent me an update without aa :rolleyes:

can anyone here help me?

[maiku]

10.1.5 has support for Nikon Firewire cameras?
Which Nikon digital camera has Firewire?
I have been holding off buying because I thought they were all USB.
hmmm....

[geeman]

Anybody else finding it difficult to get the optimum aa settings to comfortably read Entourage text on a TiBook? Without having to set the fonts H-U-G-E??

Or should I just go get my eyes tested...:p

[AlexMac]

Originally posted by maiku
10.1.5 has support for Nikon Firewire cameras?
Which Nikon digital camera has Firewire?
I have been holding off buying because I thought they were all USB.
hmmm....

Hi maiku,

I have found www.dpreview.com/ (http://www.dpreview.com) to be an excellent site regarding digital cameras. The site has a facility that you can search for different specs, like firewire. Currently only the high end models offer it :(

It just needs some company ??? to release an affordable high spec FIREWIRE camera with a built in 10GB hard drive... Hmmm, I wonder :D

Excellent update BTW, aa text is brilliant. Has anyone else noticed though that text below a certain size (I noticed it superscript) still reverts back to the old rendering. Kind of annoying because it makes it difficult to read. I can't seem to find any options for changing the size that this cuts of at in word. I already have the option set for smallest size in 'General' pref pane.

Still looking for the next IE though!


Alex

[fuzzylumpkins]

Originally posted by alex_ant
The 10.1.5 update finally allows the rev. B PBG4 to drive an external display with the lid closed! Hallelujah!

does anyone know if this works with the ibooks? i have a 500mhz ibook and i've had the same problem with external monitors. the lid must be open. unfortunately im at work and have no access to a monitor.

[barkmonster]

I thought apple had pretty much got screwed for promising it would work on the REV A iMacs and older G3 models with this chip ?

I've only got a RageII+, even though I bought my beige G3 DT around the time the B & W G3s were out, I ended up with some grey import model or something. in the UK, by the time the desktops were using 300Mhz G3 CPUs, the motherboard had hit Rev C, they had EIDE slave support, 256Mb SDRAM support and most importantly, a Rage Pro. I spent an extra £25 on the 4Mb VRAM upgrade too and it was only after a month or so when I realised I'd been sold a real POS and should have paid the extra £100 and chanced it with the B & W G3 afterall.

My little sob story aside, people have been expecting support for the RageII+ from day one, we're still not getting it, I know it's one lame graphics chipset but surely supporting it would mean apple is keeping it's original promise about supporting all models of G3 (apart from that rush job of a powerbook G3 they brought out at first).

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by barkmonster
I thought apple had pretty much got screwed for promising it would work on the REV A iMacs and older G3 models with this chip ?

I've only got a RageII+, even though I bought my beige G3 DT around the time the B & W G3s were out, I ended up with some grey import model or something. in the UK, by the time the desktops were using 300Mhz G3 CPUs, the motherboard had hit Rev C, they had EIDE slave support, 256Mb SDRAM support and most importantly, a Rage Pro. I spent an extra £25 on the 4Mb VRAM upgrade too and it was only after a month or so when I realised I'd been sold a real POS and should have paid the extra £100 and chanced it with the B & W G3 afterall.

My little sob story aside, people have been expecting support for the RageII+ from day one, we're still not getting it, I know it's one lame graphics chipset but surely supporting it would mean apple is keeping it's original promise about supporting all models of G3 (apart from that rush job of a powerbook G3 they brought out at first).

If I am not mistaken, Apple has said that ATI has decided not to develop support for that chipset. That the only one that would be would be the Rage Pro. That is why there has been a lawsuit filed in California over the issue.

[blakespot]

Originally posted by AlexMac


Hi maiku,

I have found www.dpreview.com/ (http://www.dpreview.com) to be an excellent site regarding digital cameras. The site has a facility that you can search for different specs, like firewire. Currently only the high end models offer it :(
http://www.dcresource.com -- with excellent buyer's guide tool.


blakespot

[Gus]

Please tell me that I am not so flighty that I just never noticed that you can search the mail.app! This is new, right? It is a VERY welcome addition to the program. Please, just tell me that I am not getting old enough to miss something like that for months....


Gus

[Grokgod]

I got mine through software upgrade seemed to work fine yet what exactly is "aa" and how can I tell that i have it?

[jamesbhai]

no problems with the update. nothing broke, at least. now, the next question. will they have a x.1.6 before x.2 or not? wager, anyone?

[eunuchs]

Sweet McGillicuddy, is it true? Will my Lombard no longer be crippled by OS X?

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by jamesbhai
no problems with the update. nothing broke, at least. now, the next question. will they have a x.1.6 before x.2 or not? wager, anyone?

No they will not. Steve said that there would be one more update to X.1.x before X.2 was released. So this is it for updates until the big one. I cannot wait. They have there work cut out for them, but I think that they will be able to pull it off.

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by Gus
Please tell me that I am not so flighty that I just never noticed that you can search the mail.app! This is new, right? It is a VERY welcome addition to the program. Please, just tell me that I am not getting old enough to miss something like that for months....


Gus

If you're referring to the search bar below, then no, it has been there for quite some time.

[sphereboy]

smooooooooooth update through Software Update over here.

I dont' see what everyone is talking about AA in Internet Explorer. Is this a setting that I should turn on????

Thanks

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
No, the AA is in Word, or all of office actually. The thing that I am really impressed with is the 2D support for the Rage Pro. Sheets and the Genie are very fluid now. I cannot wait to see the final build of X.2. There is no way that they are showing us everything.
i also have rage pro and i didn't noticed any interface speed improvements except faster IE scrolling..

[eallison]

In case anyone missed it, Unsanity just released the haxie Silk (http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/silk/) that gives aa to all Carbon apps. This works ok in IE on my iBook 500. Some of the text renders "fat" but not much, and highlighting isn't exactly right. It's free, too!

[Gelfin]

Originally posted by geeman
Anybody else finding it difficult to get the optimum aa settings to comfortably read Entourage text on a TiBook? Without having to set the fonts H-U-G-E??

Or should I just go get my eyes tested...:p

I'd go ahead and make that appointment. My Entourage looks just peachy.

In other news, what happened with Bluetooth? First they pull the adapter and now the software support doesn't materialize as expected. Is Apple backing off support or what?

[jelloshotsrule]

i am having an odd problem. well, not a problem per se... just something i don't like.


you know how when you have classic open, mousing over the dock gives some blocky whiteness and whatnot? well, i am getting that with the new update without having classic open.. and i hadn't been getting it in with .1.4. it's not as bad and noticeable as it is with classic open.... but it's there for sure....

anyone else notice this?

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by backspinner

Can you tell how to do this?
With a USB keyboard/mouse plugged in, close the lid and the PowerBook will go to sleep. Then click a mouse button (or press a key) and it will wake up and you can use it with the lid closed. ... Or, I can, at least. :)

Alex

[Synk]

One question... How many releases will it take for Apple to sort the sound in OSX !!!!! I mean here we are at 10.1.5 and still no proper iSub support
it bangs it pops and is generally a mess.... and this is a product pushed by apple ;-(((((((( thats all I want .. is it too much to ask to have base features sorted before adding frills ?

[joelc73]

Sorry to ask a question with what is probably a VERY obvious answer but,... where is the 10.1.5 update? I can't find it on the Apple site anywhere.

Thanks

[Rower_CPU]

Have you tried the Software Update panel in system prefs yet? :p

[joelc73]

Thank!! You learn something new every day....

[Arcady]

So Apple made iDisk fast enough to actually use, but did it after they basically made iTools worthless. Who cares how fast you can upload files to your iDisk, if the stuff is not reachable because of their ridiculous bandwidth limitations?

I posted some pictures there for some of my friends to look at, and the site was "shutdown due to excessive bandwidth" after only a few hours. What a crock.

Arcady

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by Arcady
So Apple made iDisk fast enough to actually use, but did it after they basically made iTools worthless. Who cares how fast you can upload files to your iDisk, if the stuff is not reachable because of their ridiculous bandwidth limitations?

I posted some pictures there for some of my friends to look at, and the site was "shutdown due to excessive bandwidth" after only a few hours. What a crock.

Arcady

You do realize you're complaining about a free service don't you?:rolleyes:

If you need more bandwidth you'll have to buy an account.

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


You do realize you're complaining about a free service don't you?:rolleyes:

If you need more bandwidth you'll have to buy an account.

not only that, but i've never had any problems.

and dignan, an itools user to the extreme, has never mentioned any problems. he's got like 10+ accounts/pages. with pretty big movies on all of em. and no such issue that he's mentioned.

go figure.

[Choppaface]

JS in IE seems to be about twice as fast (doing certain functions)

and command-shift-n, then name folder, then command-down arrow now works without having to click out of the folder's text field :D :D

[daRAT]

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75150

For people like myself with 56k modems at home but T1 at work :D

Now I gotta get a 32meg vid card for the Cube :\

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by eallison
In case anyone missed it, Unsanity just released the haxie Silk (http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/silk/) that gives aa to all Carbon apps. This works ok in IE on my iBook 500. Some of the text renders "fat" but not much, and highlighting isn't exactly right. It's free, too!
Awesome! AA in Mozilla! Thank you!

[MacKenzie999]

Hi everyone...

It appears i have outgrown my OSX partition, as I couldn't install the update.
On this partition I have System, Apps, Library and Users. I'd like to move some of this stuff to another partition. Do any of these items have to live on the same disc as the System?

Thanks

[j763]

Originally posted by fuzzylumpkins


does anyone know if this works with the ibooks? i have a 500mhz ibook and i've had the same problem with external monitors. the lid must be open. unfortunately im at work and have no access to a monitor.

You don't want to have the iBook on and closed... it's not a good idea because the heat ventilates through the keyboard

[sphereboy]

I don't understand this 'aa' thing your talking about. Internet Explorer looks the same to me.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

It means no jaggies in your text. Nice 'n smooth.

When you install Silk, you'll understand. A damn-fine freebie.:D

[Erol]

Starcraft (Carbon) no longer works with 10.1.5 update. I'm running it on a G4 450 (sawtooth).

Anybody Else have this problem?

[sparkleytone]

Originally posted by alex_ant

Awesome! AA in Mozilla! Thank you!

if mozilla is the only real reason you will be using silk, you may as well uninstall it. a patch to utilize AA with 10.1.5 has already been checked in and is currently being built into the nightly build.

[AmbitiousLemon]

yes i believe that AA has been planned for the 1.1 release. havent checked out a nightly lately, but it makes sense since we just hit 1.0 and 1.1 is planned as having AA.

[sparkleytone]

well its not really due to that 'tho. the bug you speak of has been put off about 8 weeks because the owner of it (sfraser) has been on vacation. now that 10.1.5 is giving people the opportunity for cheap easy AA, they have written an easy patch that was checked in today. we will wait and see if the mozilla crew decides to continue their quest for true ATSUI text.

[AmbitiousLemon]

ah. sweet. my next question is if apple was apple to allow carbon apps to have access to AA, then how about some access to other services. more specifically how abot access to spell checking. now that would be sweet. spell checking is my favorite feature in ow and adium. although i wish the spell checking dictionary was better. i still have to pop open word every once in awhile to use their spell checking feature.

[Wry Cooter]

I'm glad Apple has made an combo updater for people that have been wanting them for several reasons. And I'm glad that for most people here the update was smooth and without a hitch (Then again, many posting here are beta testing officially unreleased versions all the time anyway)

But I have still been stuck in my tracks since 10.1.2, because of the trouble reports I read such as those at:

http://www.macintouch.com/mosxreader10.1.5pt01.html

Which I first have to sort through and decipher as to whether they might effect me at all, as it is often old powerbooks and beige G3s that cry the most. But it is still disconcerting that there seems to be so much breaking, with every little fix an update provides. I don't want to have to reinstall everything from scratch, even If I knew how (I forget my registration codes as soon as they are filled in the forms)

And back up and restore is a bit daunting. If the updates have done anything for me, it has had me look closer at Carbon Copy Cloner. Its a shame you just can't undo an update, as a feature built into Apples installation. Apple really needs to improve its act on the installation front, and with getting with developers, whose work tends to flip flop between Broken/fixed depending on the OS update applied.

[AmbitiousLemon]

i think people having problems with any of the updates are generally people who have non apple hardware or who just have issues before the update that become exasperated by the update. i have installed every update on a number of machines from g3 powerbook, bw g3s, and newer machines and NEVER had a problem. but i keep my machines in good working order.

i dont think you should be scared off by these sorts of things. they are not common, and not usually caused by anything to do with the apple update. but mostly if you do have old machines you should update simply because osx will run better with the latest systems.

[Wry Cooter]

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon

I dont think you should be scared off by these sorts of things. they are not common, and not usually caused by anything to do with the apple update.

As I said, I try to sift through the problems, to see what could possibly apply to my setup. The problems generally are with peripheral drivers and software (if it were nothing but Apple stuff involved I'm sure it would go smooth as silk).

Only two of the following would concern me, I use my Firewire LaCie CD-r constantly, and was planning on getting a Radeon 8500. But why should I have to worry at all?

Following is a condensed 'bad news' report from the macintouch link I gave earlier:

I had a kernel panic during optimization
SCSI card screwed
AA in Word eats up CPU cycles
"Power Delete" app screwed
g4 no longer shuts down properly, lost user preferences
Breaks Epson C70 driver, and Twain acquire via Classic
Word cursor wanders, except with TrueType fonts
Monitor settings more limited
Kernal Panic during optimization
Lost ability for Net Info Backup
scroll using the arrow keys disabled in Mail
Pismo driving outer monitor broken
Kernel panic with emac and DP
Lost Fkey swap
Kernel Panic with "Power Delete"
Lost IDE Volume, iDisk still slow
Kernel Panic with "DoubleCommand"
Kernel Panic with any keyboard remapping app
Lost keyboard brightness controls on 2000 firewire ibook SE
Kernal Panic on iBook (500MHz, dual-USB, Airport
Lost keyquencer macros that used to work in classic, now OS X rules keyboard
Sleep Loses network connection
3 hours on Apple Help line due to kernal panic, must restore all apps from scratch
Hang on install, kernal panic, classic icons reassigned, lost classic Dreamweaver function
Change in prompt booting into console
update hangs 95% in, can only boot from classic.
Kernal Panics on TiBookand quicksilver, airport broken along with other Network choices
Broke shell script for fetching mail
Dual monitor problem returns with g4 867 and GeForce 2 twinview
installer crash, kernal panic, ran Norton Disk doctor
Can't install new ATI radion 8500 in 10.1.5
Dual g4 800 Won't wake from sleep, PB loses IP during sleep
Lost iTunes visuals
McGees Alice causes Kernel panic g4 350 with radeon agp.
Lost internal SCSI Apple OEM, problem in adaptec kext pkg
Lost resolution on external monitor from TiBook
Another installer crash due to leaving room as update downloads
Monitor resolution greatly limited
Lost LaCie firewire CDr, no longer burns
Kernal Panic with Radeon
can't open DVD drive
Lombard still sucks
sleep loses IP

[Rower_CPU]

Wow, every conceivable problem under the sun...and what makes you think that these varied problems are caused by 10.1.5?

I'd be concerned if I heard 100 reports of a the same problem, not 100 reports of completely different ones.

I myself have had some issues with connecting to remote disks via AppleTalk...sometimes my Finder just goes out to lunch and not even force quitting it brings it back. I've had to completely reboot my machine twice today, where it had been on continuously for weeks at a time before hand. If I hear about many other people having the same problem, I'll take it as a sign of a bug.

[Choppaface]

Originally posted by Wry Cooter


and Twain acquire via Classic

it ever worked O_O????

or is it just because I'm trying to use scanner connected over SCSI that it doesnt work?

[Wry Cooter]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Wow, every conceivable problem under the sun...and what makes you think that these varied problems are caused by 10.1.5?

I'd be concerned if I heard 100 reports of a the same problem, not 100 reports of completely different ones.


Did you read the list? There is considerable repetition and thematic similarity to sort out some possibly repeatable bugs. Its even harder to see this reading it in its original form however, it could be consolidated more. As it is Each line represents a separate report. Installer issues. Driver issues, sleep and monitor issues.

Regarding Choppaface question about Twain, it has not been a problem with my USB scanner ( I don't have the recurring epson printer driver probs others seem to have either) But SCSI problems seem to be an issue with X, and they were equally as flaky going back to 8.6 and the first g4s, for what that is worth. I have an adapted SCSI card on the shelf I wouldn't even consider using without doing a lot of research and tracking down drivers first.

Overall the problem is, Apple updates break third party drivers maybe because Apple and the third parties aren't on the same page or helping each other , and there is seemingly no simple way to restore to what worked if the update does takes you down. It isn't always the hardware and software companies fault however, it is often due to user error. But having to reinstall the OS and all your apps from scratch is simply not a good enough solution.

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by sparkleytone
if mozilla is the only real reason you will be using silk, you may as well uninstall it. a patch to utilize AA with 10.1.5 has already been checked in and is currently being built into the nightly build.
Awesome! AA in AppleWorks too! Thank you! :)

[jaykk]

I think apple has done a great job with 10.1.5. I always wanted AA for AppleWorks.. Silk + 10.1.5 rules. . Alas, AOL crashes with AA turned on.. hope we will have an update for AOL as well..