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stoid
Jul 2, 2004, 03:49 PM
Apple often adds features that I never would have thought of, and yet is SO useful, I nearly can't live without it. Which makes me wonder why Apple didn't include the Panther finder file search thing into the open and save dialogs. I hate having to goto the Finder if I've forgotten where I've saved a document, then coming back to the application and navigating to the thing. Apple, if you can hear me, get this into 10.3.5 or at the very freaking least Tiger.



wrldwzrd89
Jul 2, 2004, 04:02 PM
Apple often adds features that I never would have thought of, and yet is SO useful, I nearly can't live without it. Which makes me wonder why Apple didn't include the Panther finder file search thing into the open and save dialogs. I hate having to goto the Finder if I've forgotten where I've saved a document, then coming back to the application and navigating to the thing. Apple, if you can hear me, get this into 10.3.5 or at the very freaking least Tiger.
My guess is that Tiger will have this feature as part of the system-wide search tool. I'd love to see this too; it's such a pain when you forget what folder you wanted to save a file in or open a file from.

varmit
Jul 2, 2004, 04:11 PM
Apple often adds features that I never would have thought of, and yet is SO useful, I nearly can't live without it. Which makes me wonder why Apple didn't include the Panther finder file search thing into the open and save dialogs. I hate having to goto the Finder if I've forgotten where I've saved a document, then coming back to the application and navigating to the thing. Apple, if you can hear me, get this into 10.3.5 or at the very freaking least Tiger.

They put something into Panther, searching. Now they have expanded on it with the next version. What is so hard to grasp on this. Searching is fine as it stands right now. Pay the extra money for the next version, like paying for the shareware program, and unlock the next best feature, or features that were turn off for the shareware program.

With the finder, you can already do a system wide search, just takes time and is built into the finder. Search all Local Disks.

When I see you release such an inovative thing, you can give free updates like this. But I have all my money on if did do and update like this, you would want to get payed. So it will go into Tiger, not Panther.

stoid
Jul 2, 2004, 04:19 PM
Not that I'm necessarily upset at Apple, it's just weird that they wouldn't include this.

7on
Jul 2, 2004, 05:13 PM
yeah, it's a feature he said he'd like to see. As in there is no mention of it in Tiger (searching from Save menus). They could put it into the save diag with Panther though. It won't be spotlight, but it'll be useful.

neoelectronaut
Jul 2, 2004, 11:08 PM
Well, you could always use expose, open up the finder, find your file, then drop it back in the open dialog...that's what I do, at least.

ravenvii
Jul 2, 2004, 11:47 PM
Sometimes I wish OS X's save/open dialogs is as powerful as Windows'. Windows' save/open dialogs have almost all the functions of the full Explorer - rename,delete,create new folders/files, etc. I often found it useful if say, I decide to save a document in a folder that doesn't yet exist. Or want to rename another file so I could use that name for the file I'm saving.

wrldwzrd89
Jul 3, 2004, 05:03 PM
Sometimes I wish OS X's save/open dialogs is as powerful as Windows'. Windows' save/open dialogs have almost all the functions of the full Explorer - rename,delete,create new folders/files, etc. I often found it useful if say, I decide to save a document in a folder that doesn't yet exist. Or want to rename another file so I could use that name for the file I'm saving.
Apple probably doesn't think delete/rename functionality makes sense for Open/Save dialogs because they want the interface to be simple. However, making new folders is currently supported, as is saving a file over an existing file by clicking its name (both of which I use regularly).

ravenvii
Jul 3, 2004, 06:31 PM
Apple probably doesn't think delete/rename functionality makes sense for Open/Save dialogs because they want the interface to be simple. However, making new folders is currently supported, as is saving a file over an existing file by clicking its name (both of which I use regularly).

You can make folders in the save/open dialogs? That's new to me, gotta try that :)

The reason renaming would be useful is if I want to save the file in a name that's used by another file, but I don't want to overwrite it. Say, rename "foo.foo" to "foo1.foo" so I could save this file as "foo.foo". It's no big deal really, just a small convenience.

wrldwzrd89
Jul 3, 2004, 08:03 PM
You can make folders in the save/open dialogs? That's new to me, gotta try that :)

The reason renaming would be useful is if I want to save the file in a name that's used by another file, but I don't want to overwrite it. Say, rename "foo.foo" to "foo1.foo" so I could save this file as "foo.foo". It's no big deal really, just a small convenience.

You can save a file with a name based on that of an existing file, too. Just click on the file you want used as a template, then alter the name in the box. This only works in Panther.

superbovine
Jul 3, 2004, 09:05 PM
They put something into Panther, searching. Now they have expanded on it with the next version. What is so hard to grasp on this. Searching is fine as it stands right now. Pay the extra money for the next version, like paying for the shareware program, and unlock the next best feature, or features that were turn off for the shareware program.

With the finder, you can already do a system wide search, just takes time and is built into the finder. Search all Local Disks.

When I see you release such an inovative thing, you can give free updates like this. But I have all my money on if did do and update like this, you would want to get payed. So it will go into Tiger, not Panther.

lets not forgot from terminal find / -type f -name 'search critieria' -print

wrldwzrd89
Jul 4, 2004, 08:09 AM
lets not forgot from terminal find / -type f -name 'search critieria' -print
The find utility is cool; not to mention super-fast. It doesn't index metadata like Spotlight does, though. Imagine UNIX find with metadata searching - that's Spotlight (and it's available system-wide - you don't need to go into the Terminal to use it).