Red Dead Redemption

[The Mook]

Anyone picking this up on tuesday. Looks to be GOTY material. I will be for the PS3. if you want to roll in a posse id is Synthetic22.

[ManhattanPrjct]

I'll wait for the first patch by Rockstar and some reviews - but probably will go into the pipeline once the used copies start showing up.

[Taustin Powers]

If it doesn't turn out to be crap, I will definitely pick it up at some point. But not before I get tired of the open world in Just Cause 2....I simply don't need two open world games to steal my time simultaneously! :)

[ManhattanPrjct]

If it doesn't turn out to be crap, I will definitely pick it up at some point. But not before I get tired of the open world in Just Cause 2....I simply don't need two open world games to steal my time simultaneously! :)

How many hours of gameplay do you have on JC2?

[spyker3292]

The game looks awesome, and the reviews sound great.


Here's one from NYT. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/17/arts/television/17dead.html?ref=arts

Oh, and IGN will be posted a video review today.

[ManhattanPrjct]

The game looks awesome, and the reviews sound great.

For trophy hunters, you'll be most unhappy to find out that the infamous "Wanted" trophy in GTA4 has come back in this game under a different name.

[Hellhammer]

Definitely getting this! What would be more awesome than wild west GTA? :D

I'm also on PS3 so will add you when I get this (probably next week). Luckily all games are only 40€ here :p

[mixel]

I can't decide whether to rush and get the PS3 version or wait it out for the inevitable significantly better Windows version. :/

[Hellhammer]

I can't decide whether to rush and get the PS3 version or wait it out for the inevitable significantly better Windows version. :/

Just like the GTA IV was? :D If it's that crappy (knowing that Rockstar is more interested of consoles), you really need a serious power horse! Plus you have to wait till several patches fixes all issues.

I'd get the PS3 version and sell it if it's not that nice (when is the PC version coming anyway?).

[mixel]

Just like the GTA IV was? :D If it's that crappy (knowing that Rockstar is more interested of consoles), you really need a serious power horse! Plus you have to wait till several patches fixes all issues.

I'd get the PS3 version and sell it if it's not that nice (when is the PC version coming anyway?).

I'd say the Windows version was a big improvement given the framerate increase (on my iMac compared to my PS3), the gameplay recording and double the players in each online game? I did what you suggest with GTA4, but it gets complicated once DLC starts coming out.. If I have players who like to do multiplayer on both it could get expensive.

But yeah I think I'll get the PS3 version anyway and probably buy it again for windows once it comes out, lol.

[-Ryan-]

I'll definitely be picking this up. I really enjoyed GTA IV despite what other people thought of it, and this looks to build on that style, but in a better environment. Just holding off until June 3rd when my exams are over! :)

[Nuck81]

I have it preordered. I think it was delevered today since I had a missed package notice when I got home. Thats the only thing I think it could be. Oh well, guess I have to wait till tomorrow morning...

[DdMac679]

I'll be picking this up tomorrow for the PS3. I am really hoping for some nice MP action.

[Taustin Powers]

How many hours of gameplay do you have on JC2?

No idea....somewhere around 10, I guess? I don't have as much time to play as I used to... :)

[Taustin Powers]

Reviews are looking good. I'll pick it up at some point this year, when I see a good deal on it.

[spyker3292]

Can't wait for the UPS truck to come in later today :D

[Hellhammer]

95/100 for X360 version and 94/100 for PS3 version at the moment in MetaCritic. Looking VERY good

[ManhattanPrjct]

I'll be picking this up tomorrow for the PS3. I am really hoping for some nice MP action.

Should pretty much be similar to GTA4, I would think. (which means I should suck at it!)

[spyker3292]

Whoa. I love this game :D

[LethalWolfe]

Multiplayer was very buggy in my experience last night. People getting booted off randomly, poor connections across the board, people/guns/horses becoming invisible, NPC enemies being trapped outside the geometry, and that was just in a couple hours play. Hopefully they can get it sorted out quickly. When it worked though it was fun.


Lethal

[Matthew9559]

Been playing it a bit since I got it. Fantastic game. The atmosphere is great. Seems like I will be able to waste a lot of time in the old west. It's a refreshing change.

[JayMysterio]

My copy arrived yesterday from Amazon, and I got my copy of 'the golden guns' code. Will be trying it tonight.

[Nuck81]

The MultiPlayer is pretty disappointing. Everytime I've tried it's nothing but idiots running around shooting each other. No one wants to do the co op missions..

[.Andy]

The MultiPlayer is pretty disappointing. Everytime I've tried it's nothing but idiots running around shooting each other. No one wants to do the co op missions..
Doesn't get much more american that than :D;)!


As with the other posters I'm going to hold off until the first patch and price comes down a bit. Will get the PS3 version but with my current limited funds SMG2 is ahead on the list....

[Nuck81]

Add Nuck81 on PSN if you have this game :)

Lets form a posse and take down the west...

[Hellhammer]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21355476&postcount=704

Graphics - X360 vs PS3

Sadly PS3 version is poorly ported, meaning, worse graphics (640p vs 720p) and low FPS :( WHY CAN'T ROCKSTAR MAKE IT NATIVE!

[Nuck81]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21355476&postcount=704

Graphics - X360 vs PS3

Sadly PS3 version is poorly ported, meaning, worse graphics (640p vs 720p) and low FPS :( WHY CAN'T ROCKSTAR MAKE IT NATIVE!

Am I the only one that can't tell a difference?

And really? The PS3 version is worse because it doesn't have as much foliage on the ground? Grasping for straws here. The PS3 version is fine...

[Hellhammer]

Am I the only one that can't tell a difference?

And really? The PS3 version is worse because it doesn't have as much foliage on the ground? Grasping for straws here. The PS3 version is fine...

I was able to see noticeable difference... It just sucks that they sell them both for 70$ while PS3 is just poorly ported while it has A LOT more power. Drawing distance is also lower and so is FPS, though it might not be so noticeable as in GTA IV.

IMO it just sucks, why can't they do it for PS3? It would be much nicer on PS3 but due Rockstars decisions, it's poor. I'm not saying it's bad game, just pissed because it could be better!

[sikkinixx]

I was able to see noticeable difference... It just sucks that they sell them both for 70$ while PS3 is just poorly ported while it has A LOT more power. Drawing distance is also lower and so is FPS, though it might not be so noticeable as in GTA IV.

IMO it just sucks, why can't they do it for PS3? It would be much nicer on PS3 but due Rockstars decisions, it's poor. I'm not saying it's bad game, just pissed because it could be better!

They should really just make it on PC and blow the 360 AND PS3 out of the water, just like with GTA IV. I can't believe how much better BoGT is on PC.

That said, I am happy with Red Dead so far. A few nitpicks regarding horse riding (SotC still is my favorite) and looting bodies (why does it take so damn long to tell me what I picked up?) and hunting (why must I watch the blood splat on the screen every-single-time?) but shooting fools in the face is very rewarding. Makes me more excited for GTA V though...

[Hellhammer]

They should really just make it on PC and then it blows the 360 AND PS3 out of the water, just like with GTA IV. I can't believe how much better BoGT is on PC.

GTA IV has nice graphics but it's bad port too, it's VERY demanding game on PC.

I've been playing the DLCs of GTA IV on PS3 now and the FPS sucks when driving fast and so does drawing distance, sometimes I'm driving on nothing as it takes time to draw the street! I hope future Rockstar games will be natively for PS3 and PC too.

Can't wait to get this game though :p I enjoy the game more than the graphics, even MGS1 is still awesome!

[ManhattanPrjct]

It just sucks that they sell them both for 70$ while PS3 is just poorly ported while it has A LOT more power.

Wow, that's the last time I ever complain about $59 games here in the US. $70 seems crazy to me.

[ManhattanPrjct]

Can't wait to get this game though :p I enjoy the game more than the graphics, even MGS1 is still awesome!

If I am waiting for a new game to come out (or come down in price), I pop in MGS1/2/3 and marvel at how fun they still are.

[peskaa]

My copy shipped today (only ordered it on the 20th...), and it's going to my work address, so I won't get my mitts on it until Monday. Gah, schoolboy error!

Oh, and I got the PS3 Limited Edition version. I just don't know enough people with 360s.

[Hellhammer]

Wow, that's the last time I ever complain about $59 games here in the US. $70 seems crazy to me.

Games are 60-80€ (75-100$) in here but there are couple places who sell without VAT so they are €40ish. Our VAT makes everything expensive, Macs are 500$ more in here :(

[wishfulllama]

Wow, that's the last time I ever complain about $59 games here in the US. $70 seems crazy to me.

Very jealous, here in Australia we pay equivalent USD$90-100 for games. It's an absolute joke to be honest

[MacRumorUser]

Bought it for 360 today. It seems very good.

[DoFoT9]

I'll wait for the first patch by Rockstar and some reviews - but probably will go into the pipeline once the used copies start showing up.
hmm how long will the patch take to come out? i want it now :P

Definitely getting this! What would be more awesome than wild west GTA? :D

I'm also on PS3 so will add you when I get this (probably next week). Luckily all games are only 40€ here :p

yup yup yup! i might get it after i finish uni and whatnot - in about 5 weeks yay!

[mattyuk]

Ive only been playing 5 mins, and its already the best looking and sounding ive played. Its amazing wandering round, much more enjoyable I find than GTA, compared to what people have been saying about it.

[DoFoT9]

Ive only been playing 5 mins, and its already the best looking and sounding ive played. Its amazing wandering round, much more enjoyable I find than GTA, compared to what people have been saying about it.

wow thats awsome to hear man!!! thanks for that mini review!


is there only a console version out atm?

[mattyuk]

yeah 360 and PS3.

[DoFoT9]

yeah 360 and PS3.

ohh ok. any idea when PC version comes out? or of a mac version lol.

[mattyuk]

Nah I think its just for consoles at the moment.

[DoFoT9]

Nah I think its just for consoles at the moment.

ahh unrucky! ill be waiting for the PC version too then :D

[whooleytoo]

Mixed feelings about this game.

It looks great, very atmospheric, the voice acting is good, the missions and mini-games seem very much in keeping with the feel of the era. I really like too the way several elements of the game seem taken right out of various Western movies. The band of criminals holed up in a deep, twisty gorge. The shoot-out on a rocky out-crop with you ducking between the boulders. The dodgy snake-oil merchant..

The controls feel a little awkward for me though - in particular when on horse-back. There are a few spots (especially on slopes) where you can get stuck, and it's amusing watching your horse moon-walking around trying to get out. And it's far too easy to fall off a ledge or into water (instant death).

One annoyance, on some missions you're asked to bring a criminal back alive, but if you haven't done a certain mission where you learn to lasso, you have no way of doing so. I spent ages trying to cripple/knock a guy out, only to eventually realise I had to kill him.

Another oddity - sometimes you fight your way through a location as part of a mission, only to have to go back and fight through it again as part of a 'freeplay'. Odd.

For a free-roaming game though, there doesn't seem to be much 'need' to explore. There are side-missions, though some of them are very brief and many of them repetitive. Most of the interesting gameplay comes from the main missions, all of which seem centred around the same town.

Still, it's really growing on me the more I play it.

p.s. I did notice one funny bug though. I was fighting my way through Tumbleweed. I went to crouch down by the well in the centre of town, and was suddenly thrown waaaay into the air above the town. Needless to say, my character didn't survive the landing.

[peskaa]

Anybody want a freebie? I've got an extra code for the Golden Guns, PS3 version. First person to drop me a PM gets it!


[EDIT: Gone to Hellhammer!]

[DoFoT9]

I was able to see noticeable difference... It just sucks that they sell them both for 70$ while PS3 is just poorly ported while it has A LOT more power. Drawing distance is also lower and so is FPS, though it might not be so noticeable as in GTA IV.

IMO it just sucks, why can't they do it for PS3? It would be much nicer on PS3 but due Rockstars decisions, it's poor. I'm not saying it's bad game, just pissed because it could be better!

nah, ps3 has less power then the xbox. silly ;)

damn you about getting the disc lol.

[Hellhammer]

nah, ps3 has less power then the xbox. silly ;)

damn you about getting the disc lol.

No it doesn't silly ;) PS3 has way more power but it doesn't help if the coding sucks. Hopefully the rumors about GTA V being PS3 only are true or at least it being the main platform (and X360 would get a crappy port in 6 DVDs :D)

[SevenInchScrew]

Hopefully the rumors about GTA V being PS3 only are true...
That sounds like the most unlikely rumor, possibly ever. You think that Rockstar is going to drop support for the platform that had much larger sales for their last game? Yea, that sounds logical :rolleyes:

[Hellhammer]

That sounds like the most unlikely rumor, possibly ever. You think that Rockstar is going to drop support for the platform that had much larger sales for their last game? Yea, that sounds logical :rolleyes:

Well, PS3 only is unlikely but if I recall correctly, some bigger leader of Rockstar said that they are very interested of taking the full advantage of Blu-Ray and Cell processors in GTA V, so I wouldn't be surprised if PS3 was the main platform and I really hope it is.

[Taustin Powers]

Picked up RDR tonight, and I am enjoying it so far. Pacing is a little slow in the beginning, but it's a great setting pulled off very well. Looking forward to exploring it more...

[DoFoT9]

No it doesn't silly ;) PS3 has way more power but it doesn't help if the coding sucks. Hopefully the rumors about GTA V being PS3 only are true or at least it being the main platform (and X360 would get a crappy port in 6 DVDs :D)

nah the xbox has double the FP of the ps3. do your research man! ;)

[Taustin Powers]

Good god, please, no more "system A is more powerful than system B"...just enjoy your games, people! :eek:


Does Red Dead Redemption have any "hidden package" equivalent? Stuff to look for in the scenery?

[DoFoT9]

Good god, please, no more "system A is more powerful than system B"...just enjoy your games, people! :eek:


its a bi-product of any game discussion :p

[The JTizzle]

Picked it up on 360 if any one wants to do some MP (Gammer tag is: The JTizzle).

I'm about 75% the way though the single player, really good so far. There aren't like the hidden packages per say in GTA4 for the guy who asked above, but you are sent on 4 different optional quest challenges. These range from collecting herbs, making crazy shots, killing animals a specific way, and finding lost treasure chests with a map. There are also a few hidden rare creatures to hunt as well, but not so much just random packages to find.

[whooleytoo]

Picked it up on 360 if any one wants to do some MP (Gammer tag is: The JTizzle).

I'm about 75% the way though the single player, really good so far. There aren't like the hidden packages per say in GTA4 for the guy who asked above, but you are sent on 4 different optional quest challenges. These range from collecting herbs, making crazy shots, killing animals a specific way, and finding lost treasure chests with a map. There are also a few hidden rare creatures to hunt as well, but not so much just random packages to find.

I really like the treasure hunts. A minor annoyance is how many games are only really playable via the mini-map. So instead of being immersed in the game and looking for visual clues, you're starting at the mini-map following dots. With the treasure maps, you're having to use your own eyes.

Unfortunately, at other times I've found it difficult to tell who are the thieves and who are the good guys. I end up looking at the map to try and tell which people are represented by the red dots, and often end up shooting at the wrong guys.

[turbobass]

Both PSN and XBL versions of Read Dead gonna get free multiplayer co-op DLC

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/05/red-dead-redemption-to-get-free-co-op-mission-pack/

[sikkinixx]

6 hours in an I'm totally bored.

"Random" events are cookie-cutter "quick! lasso the guy running away and bring him back to me!" or "help! I'm being robbed!"

I really miss the taxi's from GTA. Yeah, I know there are stage-coaches but they aren't as easily accessible as the taxis were and riding across the damn world is slow and boring.

And why is the game STILL teaching me how to do things like lasso guys or pay off a bounty? Honestly, the ticker says I am 26% done the game, and still the missions seem to be tutorial-like. Where is the complexity? So far most everything has been a long boring ride while Marston and guest talk, then shoot 5 or 6 guys with Dead-Eye, then another ride.


*sigh* rant over.

[Hellhammer]

6 hours in an I'm totally bored.

"Random" events are cookie-cutter "quick! lasso the guy running away and bring him back to me!" or "help! I'm being robbed!"

I really miss the taxi's from GTA. Yeah, I know there are stage-coaches but they aren't as easily accessible as the taxis were and riding across the damn world is slow and boring.

And why is the game STILL teaching me how to do things like lasso guys or pay off a bounty? Honestly, the ticker says I am 26% done the game, and still the missions seem to be tutorial-like. Where is the complexity? So far most everything has been a long boring ride while Marston and guest talk, then shoot 5 or 6 guys with Dead-Eye, then another ride.


*sigh* rant over.

You can travel for free and quickly from place to place if you set up a camp (press select and choose camp) and then just travel to destination. Taxis would make RDR more or less unrealistic.

I'm completely the opposite. I've done dozens of mini games and extra crap but they still don't get me bored, they are amazing. Last night I spent 2 hours playing poker! I've played ~40% and I feel that I've barely even started it yet. The story isn't that great but it goes along. Somehow I like it more than GTA, maybe because not everyone has M4.

The multiplayer is also great though campers makes it boring sometimes. Overall, it's a game you shouldn't play more than 2 hours straight. In small dozes, it's awesome

[whooleytoo]

Dead-Eye - or something like it - was obviously a necessity in this game. If you don't have a modern weapon firing several rounds a second, then gamers aren't going to have enough accuracy to hit anything, particularly when on a horse or vehicle.

I always try and use cover, then pop up and aim manually. Except on a horse, where manual aiming would be freakishly difficult. But then Dead Eye just makes it too easy. It's more difficult on the top level, but still..

I love the fact that you can play the side games in various locations, and watch drunks staggering around or the 'ladies of the night' strutting around in the background.

My favourite bit is when someone tries to steal your horse. First time was a girl in the middle of nowhere took it and disappeared off. I had a momentary panic thinking I'd have to run all the way back to the nearest town.. then remembered. One whistle and I heard a thump behind the trees, before my horse comes trotting back to me. Hopped on, chased the woman down, lassoed & hogtied her, threw her over the back of my horse and rode back into town...

Go Rockstar, playing to the inner misogynist... :rolleyes: :p

[whooleytoo]

6 hours in an I'm totally bored.

"Random" events are cookie-cutter "quick! lasso the guy running away and bring him back to me!" or "help! I'm being robbed!"

I really miss the taxi's from GTA. Yeah, I know there are stage-coaches but they aren't as easily accessible as the taxis were and riding across the damn world is slow and boring.

And why is the game STILL teaching me how to do things like lasso guys or pay off a bounty? Honestly, the ticker says I am 26% done the game, and still the missions seem to be tutorial-like. Where is the complexity? So far most everything has been a long boring ride while Marston and guest talk, then shoot 5 or 6 guys with Dead-Eye, then another ride.


*sigh* rant over.

Fast-travel is a bit tricky, particularly getting to & from Mexico, until you realise you need to buy the relevant maps in order to be able to fast-travel from camp.

My bugbear is (a typical one for these type of games) is how they rely so much on the mini-map - you couldn't play most missions without it. Instead of watching the screen for a dust-cloud, or horse tracks of someone escaping from you, you're chasing a dot on a mini-map. Sometimes I can't figure out who the good and bad guys are on-screen, so again I just watch the mini-map to see which turn red and which turn blue. Pity they couldn't put more thought into those areas of the game.

Still, I do think it's a very good game.

[turbobass]

6 hours in an I'm totally bored.

"Random" events are cookie-cutter "quick! lasso the guy running away and bring him back to me!" or "help! I'm being robbed!"

I really miss the taxi's from GTA. Yeah, I know there are stage-coaches but they aren't as easily accessible as the taxis were and riding across the damn world is slow and boring.
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I love how you are complaining about there not being more stagecoaches when you can literally teleport instantly using your campsite and thatyou are complaing about repetitiveness when the previous GTA games forced you to redo whole missions when you died at almost any stage of them.

[turbobass]

I always try and use cover, then pop up and aim manually. Except on a horse, where manual aiming would be freakishly difficult. But then Dead Eye just makes it too easy. It's more difficult on the top level, but still..

The trick is to use the snap-to targeting.

[sikkinixx]

I love how you are complaining about there not being more stagecoaches when you can literally teleport instantly using your campsite and thatyou are complaing about repetitiveness when the previous GTA games forced you to redo whole missions when you died at almost any stage of them.

I had never set up a camp before as i don't believe it tells you that you can teleport, only refill ammo and save. Point taken. Will use that.

And the last two GTA packs ( lost and damned + tbogt ) have both featured well done check pointing in the missions.


I'm not saying it's a bad game. Its very well done. I just feel bored in it. I never really liked the mini games in gta and red dead seems to push them a bit harder as part of the experience. Maybe I'm a sucker for fast cars and exploding shotgun ammo

[whooleytoo]

I had never set up a camp before as i don't believe it tells you that you can teleport, only refill ammo and save. Point taken. Will use that.


It is a strange method - "stop and setup camp if you want to travel quickly".
:p It's also quite awkward, if you're in a town, you need to run a distance outside in order to set up camp. And you need to buy maps in order to fast travel to certain areas - that's not very obvious. Going from the US back and forth to Mexico can take a looong time.


I'm not saying it's a bad game. Its very well done. I just feel bored in it. I never really liked the mini games in gta and red dead seems to push them a bit harder as part of the experience. Maybe I'm a sucker for fast cars and exploding shotgun ammo

Personally, I like the games in RD:R, since it makes the game-world more than just pretty scenery, but something you can interact with and feel part of.

I do think the game is quite slow-paced though. I know that's a necessity to a certain degree, given the setting and era; but there does seem to be a lot of plodding around with nothing to do, or few real surprises as you explore the world. I've no problem at all with a huge game-world, but it does seem relatively empty.

[micahR]

I am going to be getting this game (on the 360) as soon as I finish Mass Effect 2. There has been a wealth of knowledge posted on this thread. I was looking forward to this game, but now I am excited about it.

[sikkinixx]

Personally, I like the games in RD:R, since it makes the game-world more than just pretty scenery, but something you can interact with and feel part of.

I do think the game is quite slow-paced though. I know that's a necessity to a certain degree, given the setting and era; but there does seem to be a lot of plodding around with nothing to do, or few real surprises as you explore the world. I've no problem at all with a huge game-world, but it does seem relatively empty.

I think the big issue is the generally jankyness found in all Rockstar games. The controls and menus just never feel quite right. Prime example is the weapon switching in red dead. How annoying is it to switch from gun to lasso quickly? Most games just let you tap the bumper to quick switch to the last weapon equipped (ie mass effect).

Still, it is mighty fun dragging baddies behind your horse to their grisly death :-p

[peskaa]

I think the big issue is the generally jankyness found in all Rockstar games. The controls and menus just never feel quite right. Prime example is the weapon switching in red dead. How annoying is it to switch from gun to lasso quickly? Most games just let you tap the bumper to quick switch to the last weapon equipped (ie mass effect).

Still, it is mighty fun dragging baddies behind your horse to their grisly death :-p

They should have mapped to the D-pad for weapon switching. I do find that the most annoying part.

[Hellhammer]

I think the big issue is the generally jankyness found in all Rockstar games. The controls and menus just never feel quite right. Prime example is the weapon switching in red dead. How annoying is it to switch from gun to lasso quickly? Most games just let you tap the bumper to quick switch to the last weapon equipped (ie mass effect).

Still, it is mighty fun dragging baddies behind your horse to their grisly death :-p

I'm getting very annoyed because you CAN'T CHANGE the CONTROLS! I don't want to use R2 and L2 for shooting as I'm used to R1 and L1 and especially in multiplayer, it matters. Always when I'm trying to switch for lasso or repeater as quickly as possible, I accidentally select fist as it's between them. Have dies because of that for several times!

It's amazing game but these little limitations always eats the satisfaction. It would've taken like 5mins for someone to make customizable controls

[whooleytoo]

I think the big issue is the generally jankyness found in all Rockstar games. The controls and menus just never feel quite right. Prime example is the weapon switching in red dead. How annoying is it to switch from gun to lasso quickly? Most games just let you tap the bumper to quick switch to the last weapon equipped (ie mass effect).

Still, it is mighty fun dragging baddies behind your horse to their grisly death :-p

Yeah, it's actually a double-whammy:

You have to hit a tricky combo quickly (hold left bumper, use the right stick to point at the right weapon class, then the left stick/D-pad to select the individual weapon), and the game doesn't pause in weapon selection! It wouldn't be so bad if the game paused so you didn't have button-panic when trying to change weapons.

I agree the menu system isn't great, a lot of necessary items are buried deep in the menus, or in unintuitive places (e.g. you have to hit Start to bring up the map, but Back to bring up the treasure map - you'd expect them to be in the same menu), but it's not a huge problem.

[Selenica]

It's amazing! I finished the main story-line... what an ending! The multiplayer is fun too but I noticed it's very buggy. I hope it gets patched. I have the PS3 version btw and I couldn't be any happier with the visuals.

[whooleytoo]

I love the random weird events that occur when playing the game. Once while I was off in the wilderness my horse hunting, a guy hopped off his horse right next to me and started to pee. WTF?

Another time I was exploring an area near Thieves Landing and came across a couple lying on the ground. The guy wasn't moving, and was lying in a pool of blood. The woman was drinking from a bottle and then collapsed too. I was expecting this to kick-off a new quest/challenge, but no, nothing happened. Weird....