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srobert
Dec 7, 2004, 08:03 AM
A Panhandle couple is under arrest after notifying police Thursday that their quarter-pound stash of marijuana was stolen and that they needed the weed back, because they were going to later sell it.

"They're America's dumbest criminals," said Lt. Ricky Ramie, head of the Bay County Sheriff's Office narcotics task force.

"Link" (http://www.wftv.com/news/3971517/detail.html)

I'm speachless...



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Mr. Anderson
Dec 7, 2004, 08:21 AM
What's the going price of .25 lb of marijuana these days?

That is just amazing - you have to wonder exactly what they were thinking at the time, of if they were under the influence..... :(

D

sgarringer
Dec 7, 2004, 08:32 AM
In Iowa, the price for standard ganj would be about 350$. An ounce runs about $120 so quite a profit can be turned.

Dont ask me why I know that.

What's the going price of .25 lb of marijuana these days?

That is just amazing - you have to wonder exactly what they were thinking at the time, of if they were under the influence..... :(

D

Sun Baked
Dec 7, 2004, 08:35 AM
They should add some of these people to the "This is your brain on drugs..." posters/campaigns.

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11560

blackfox
Dec 7, 2004, 08:46 AM
well, it was only a matter of time before they probably would've gotten busted anyway, if their thinking here (or lack thereof) is any indication.

One almost hopes that they were high, so at least they have an excuse for their idiocy.

Looking at their ages, I wonder why they weren't in school and/or whose house they were living in.

wdlove
Dec 7, 2004, 09:38 AM
They should have just considered that stolen Marijuana as a cost of doing business. They probably were high or feeling effects of Marijuana to have called police about theft of an illegal substance. They certainly made the job of the police very easy. :(

obeygiant
Dec 7, 2004, 10:03 AM
What's the going price of .25 lb of marijuana these days?

That is just amazing - you have to wonder exactly what they were thinking at the time, of if they were under the influence..... :(

D

good stuff is about $4500, which makes a quarter pound about $1125.
But these guys are probably small time, so a quarter pound actually makes a difference.

FelixDerKater
Dec 7, 2004, 10:15 AM
Wow! People get crazier and crazier... What did they expect would happen?

chanoc
Dec 7, 2004, 01:58 PM
What's the going price of .25 lb of marijuana these days?


I know a IT guy who sells .25 lbs for 1,000 USD in Alaska.

chanoc
Dec 7, 2004, 02:00 PM
They should have just considered that stolen Marijuana as a cost of doing business. They probably were high or feeling effects of Marijuana to have called police about theft of an illegal substance. They certainly made the job of the police very easy. :(

People do not do dumb ***** like this under the influence of marijuana. It sounds like they have a case of ignorance mixed with mental illness or phycosis from doing to much meth.

chanoc
Dec 7, 2004, 02:09 PM
Tenage logic = oxymoron

Well, if they pled guilty to the 1/4 lb they really are stupid, where is the evidence of the 1/4 lb?

They could get convicted on stems and pot pipes, but what kind of sentence would that carry in Florida? Here in Alaska it would be a 100.00 fine and a slap on the wrist.

Oh, and what kind of civilized nation prosecutes their people for using marijuana? Let legalize marijuana, it's a person's right to choose whether they want to use or not.

jemeinc
Dec 7, 2004, 02:57 PM
Oh, and what kind of civilized nation prosecutes their people for using marijuana? Let legalize marijuana, it's a person's right to choose whether they want to use or not.

LOL... Not as long as it's illegal to use it it isn't a persons right to choose whether they want to or not... Believe me, I'm no angel in this category, though I no longer indulge, but it was always crystal clear that if I got caught with a trashbag full of weed I was up the creek without a paddle... I could care less whether they legalize it or not, but it's not someones right to use an illegal substance because they think it should be legal... lol..

Sun Baked
Dec 7, 2004, 03:01 PM
LOL... Not as long as it's illegal to use it it isn't a persons right to choose whether they want to or not... Believe me, I'm no angel in this category, though I no longer indulge, but it was always crystal clear that if I got caught with a trashbag full of weed I was up the creek without a paddle... I could care less whether they legalize it or not, but it's not someones right to use an illegal substance because they think it should be legal... lol..Same applies to owning and driving a stolen Bently Turbo coupe.

Just because you want to, doesn't mean it should be legalized.

jemeinc
Dec 7, 2004, 03:07 PM
Same applies to owning and driving a stolen Bently Turbo coupe.

Just because you want to, doesn't mean it should be legalized.

Wait- who told you about that ?... I was only borrowing it, I was gonna return it, I swear... ;-)

rainman::|:|
Dec 7, 2004, 03:46 PM
Same applies to owning and driving a stolen Bently Turbo coupe.

Just because you want to, doesn't mean it should be legalized.

Whew! good thing pot's a victimless crime, stealing a car... not quite. You can't just compare it to anything, pot is one of a few things that the government prohibits for no good reason... the "protect you from yourself" laws. they should all be scrapped.

But anyway.

I'll strongly agree with what others have said, these guys didn't do something so stupid because of the pot (i have yet to meet someone who called the police while high, on purpose)... they did it because they're complete retards. Not in the un-politically-correct sense, either. But in the literal way.

paul

jemeinc
Dec 7, 2004, 04:26 PM
Whew! good thing pot's a victimless crime, stealing a car... not quite. You can't just compare it to anything, pot is one of a few things that the government prohibits for no good reason... the "protect you from yourself" laws. they should all be scrapped.


paul

Oh , I don't know about that... I've come home pretty baked & decided some muffins would be good at 2 am- only to fall asleep & wake up to the family shaking me to get me out of a smoke filled house... lol... true story...

Sun Baked
Dec 7, 2004, 04:33 PM
Oh , I don't know about that... I've come home pretty baked & decided some muffins would be good at 2 am- only to fall asleep & wake up to the family shaking me to get me out of a smoke filled house... lol... true story...And if you want to make sure your large crop is off the grid you'll want to hotwire around the electric meter -- so you'll be stealing electricity instead of a car...

Of course the chemicals in the crops are less hazardous than a batch of meth, though you do risk buring down the house.

jemeinc
Dec 7, 2004, 04:39 PM
And if you want to make sure your large crop is off the grid you'll want to hotwire around the electric meter -- so you'll be stealing electricity instead of a car...

Of course the chemicals in the crops are less hazardous than a batch of meth, though you do risk buring down the house.

ROFLMAO... Suddenly I'm in the mood for a twinkie- or two...

Jaz
Dec 7, 2004, 05:05 PM
A dealer who lost $220k worth of drugs in a robbery won the court case against the Tax Office, and so is allowed to claim the loss as a tax deduction!

Here's a link to the story:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/27/1098667835627.html?from=storylhs

DickArmAndHarT
Dec 7, 2004, 05:36 PM
Althoutth, i agree thats stupidity not reefer. to bad about the quater pound, Dont rop people, make friends

StarbucksSam
Dec 7, 2004, 05:47 PM
Wow.

They totally deserve:

Certificate for Stupidest Person on Earth (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5541790906)

rhpenguin
Dec 7, 2004, 06:16 PM
good stuff is about $4500, which makes a quarter pound about $1125.
But these guys are probably small time, so a quarter pound actually makes a difference.


Where are you getting your stuff?!?! Im buying 1lb of bomb outdoor grown grass for $2200. Really nice hydro goes around $2900>$3100.. Maybe you should look into alternate sources..

StarbucksSam
Dec 7, 2004, 06:56 PM
Why are we discussing marijuana prices? This is supposed to be a family friendly place.

Inspector Lee
Dec 7, 2004, 08:48 PM
good stuff is about $4500, which makes a quarter pound about $1125.
But these guys are probably small time, so a quarter pound actually makes a difference.

How far are you from East Lansing? Gotta lay off the sauce... can barely type...

People do not do dumb ***** like this under the influence of marijuana. It sounds like they have a case of ignorance mixed with mental illness or phycosis from doing to much meth.

Right on. I wonder how many people saw this story and muttered nonsensicals before hitting their medicine cabinet for "OK drugs."

sgarringer
Dec 8, 2004, 07:47 AM
Why are we discussing marijuana prices? This is supposed to be a family friendly place.

Would you prefer we discuss the ever rising cost of prescription drugs? Since those are so much better for you. Oh wait, a lot of prescription drugs kill people just by their basic use...

Sun Baked
Dec 8, 2004, 08:43 AM
Would you prefer we discuss the ever rising cost of prescription drugs? Since those are so much better for you. Oh wait, a lot of prescription drugs kill people just by their basic use...But there is always the stock in those companies you can play with, it's much harder to invest in the lucrative street drugs/crops -- in fact there's federal laws against it.

apple2991
Dec 8, 2004, 09:43 AM
Same applies to owning and driving a stolen Bently Turbo coupe.

Just because you want to, doesn't mean it should be legalized.

That is the most ignorant type of attitude to have toward something, especially in relationw to politics/ethics/religion. Let's see, grand theft auto, or smoking a pipe on my back porch listening to Bob Dylan? The biggest threat that poses is to my inventory of cookies and peanut butter. But, yeah, let's throw 'em in jail.

Just because you don't want it to doesn't mean it shouldn't be legalized.

Sun Baked
Dec 8, 2004, 10:53 AM
That is the most ignorant type of attitude to have toward something, especially in relationw to politics/ethics/religion. Let's see, grand theft auto, or smoking a pipe on my back porch listening to Bob Dylan? The biggest threat that poses is to my inventory of cookies and peanut butter. But, yeah, let's throw 'em in jail.

Just because you don't want it to doesn't mean it shouldn't be legalized.Sounds like you woke up and found a troll in your bed, or are having an really nasty acid flashback to your gradeschool days -- when calling people names made you feel important. :(

blackfox
Dec 8, 2004, 10:57 AM
I believe this thread was more about people's potential to be morons, than the legal/value issues around marijuana.

I guess maybe I'd just like it to be.

meh.

sgarringer
Dec 8, 2004, 11:43 AM
Sounds like you woke up and found a troll in your bed, or are having an really nasty acid flashback to your gradeschool days -- when calling people names made you feel important. :(

So you know better than me whats good for me to do?

I don't understand your arguement.

Why should I allow you to tell me what I can and can't do if I'm not harming anyone?

Please, don't give me any of the following rebuttles:

A] Pot is a gateway drug
B] Buying pot is giving money to terrorists

The only reason that either of these are true is because of the illegal status of weed. So please, if its possible, forumulate your thoughts and reply with an arguement... otherwise, I'll puff on my pipe and leave you to take care dof the "master debating".

Sun Baked
Dec 8, 2004, 12:19 PM
So you know better than me whats good for me to do?

I don't understand your arguement.More of the current "Era of Entitlement" issue.

People feeling they they should be able to smoke pot, download free music, etc. right now -- because they are entitled to do it, illegal or not.

Their rebellion against the system is to keep doing what they want to do instead of personally taking a hand in changing the system.

Even if it means what they are doing now is stealing music, breaking current drug laws, or tweaking any other law they feel is unjust -- to them personally.

Edit: those damn selfish bastards... ;)

jsw
Dec 8, 2004, 12:42 PM
More of the current "Era of Entitlement" issue.

People feeling they they should be able to smoke pot, download free music, etc. right now -- because they are entitled to do it, illegal or not.
...
The difference between downloading files and smoking grass is that file downloads victimize someone (yes, "someone" who overcharges and is a bully, but a legal owner of the content nevertheless), whereas smoking grass (for reasons of simplication. let's assert it's grass you've grown yourself) is illegal but creates no victim.

Not only that, but it's difficult to reconcile laws which forbid maijuana use but do not forbid alcohol or tobacco use.

I don't smoke anything (have in the past, though, long ago), and I'm not asserting that people should break the law (although, in one way or another, knowingly or not, it's a safe bet that everyone violates some law or another every day). I'm just pointing out that victimless crimes are harder to defend as prosecutable offenses. Laws should have reasoning behind them and consistency with other laws. Laws which forbit activity which produces no harm, or arguably at least no more harm than other legal actions, are very difficult indeed to defend as justifiable.

Nevertheless, they are laws, and the best thing to do is to fight them politically and publicly, and to violate them, if at all, privately.

I would vote for the legalization of marijuana, but I would vote against the "right" to smoke it in public. I feel the same about tobacco. Do what you want in your house. Don't stink up public areas. It's victimless in your house. It creates second-hand smoke victims, etc., in public.

sgarringer
Dec 8, 2004, 01:05 PM
People feeling they they should be able to smoke pot, download free music, etc. right now -- because they are entitled to do it, illegal or not.


No one is arguing that I should be able to go out and download music. Clearly, thats illegal because its copyright infringement and like it or not, it is hurting someone.

Please tell me how my smoking weed, in my own house, that I've paid for by working (not stealing or anything else illegal) is wrong.

I know there are laws against it. But perhaps those laws need to be changed? Unfortunatly, those in power have millions, if not billions, of money to spend on misinformation of the public and continue to make the general population fear what they don't know.

Just look at Nevada. The popular opinion was that weed should be legalized. It was ahead in the polls. Then, the federal governmnet put the squeeze on, spending millions of dollars on a nasty ad campagin, and threating to pull federal highway funding if the law passed....

Maybe something in the system is screwed up... and the only way to make it right, is to say 'f the system!

Sun Baked
Dec 8, 2004, 01:05 PM
Gosh, the ability of people to turn silly articles into serious debates.

Methinks they've been playing too much in the political forum for them to have any fun. :(

And remember to report any theft of your stash to the nearest police office, since that is what this thread is about anyway. :p

sgarringer
Dec 8, 2004, 01:07 PM
Gosh, the ability of people to turn silly articles into serious debates.

Methinks they've been playing too much in the political forum for them to have any fun. :(

And remember to report any theft of your stash to the nearest police office, since that is what this thread is about anyway. :p

I'm interested to know why you wont answer any of the questions I put forward...

blackfox
Dec 8, 2004, 01:09 PM
Gosh, the ability of people to turn silly articles into serious debates.

Methinks they've been playing too much in the political forum for them to have any fun. :(

And remember to report any theft of your stash to the nearest police office, since that is what this thread is about anyway. :p

Hey! I mostly post in the Political Forum, but I tried to steer this back to the much more amusing topic of the human potential for idiocy.

meh.

sgarringer
Dec 8, 2004, 01:12 PM
Hey! I mostly post in the Political Forum, but I tried to steer this back to the much more amusing topic of the human potential for idiocy.

meh.
Mac Forums > Mac Community > Community Discussion > Political Discussions & War

Well she's back in the Political forums now. So let the continuation of discussion commence. Starting with my original questions, that sit unanswered stinking up the forum like a big tird.

Xtremehkr
Dec 8, 2004, 01:12 PM
A quarter pound of Californias finest Chronic can be bought for $975.

Government estimates on use are way off. I have a union job so I can't partake anymore, but it's easily as pervasive as alcohol, if not more.

Sun Baked
Dec 8, 2004, 01:19 PM
Hey! I mostly post in the Political Forum, but I tried to steer this back to the much more amusing topic of the human potential for idiocy.

meh.I got into this thread for the lunacy, not to play with the master debaters.

So I think I'll avoid the sticky mess that comes with threads in the political forum.

Plus it drives people nuts when you leave a debate hanging, and driving people nuts seems to be what the Political Forum does quite well. :p

Unless they want to return to original topic...

blackfox
Dec 8, 2004, 01:26 PM
Plus it drives people nuts when you leave a debate hanging, and driving people nuts seems to be what the Political Forum does quite well. :p



Double Hey!!

Btw, to sgarringer:

Life is neither logical or fair. It is unfortunate that the laws surrounding Pot and the interests that keep them in place exist, but they do.

You are free to react to this fact however you choose. I still smoke occasionally, at my own risk. I do not delude myself that the righteousness
or reasonableness of my opinion in the matter means squat, should I be caught.

Do not take your frustration out on those who are merely pointing out the reality of the situation, which is one many of us dislike.

sgarringer
Dec 8, 2004, 02:04 PM
You are free to react to this fact however you choose. I still smoke occasionally, at my own risk. I do not delude myself that the righteousness
or reasonableness of my opinion in the matter means squat, should I be caught.


I realize it is illegal, and also realize the risks involved. I have been caught, and taken my punishment.

If I hadn't worked for a series of compines with no background check, I would be quite screwed.

My point is merely this... why? Why should it be this way. It is, yes, but why does it have to be? Why can't we get things changed?

That is a topic that needs to be discussed, regardless of how much people on here don't want to discuss it.

skunk
Dec 8, 2004, 06:40 PM
I realize it is illegal, and also realize the risks involved. I have been caught, and taken my punishment.

If I hadn't worked for a series of compines with no background check, I would be quite screwed.

My point is merely this... why? Why should it be this way. It is, yes, but why does it have to be? Why can't we get things changed?
Apparently because Hearst had invested $800 million in timber for pulp, and the successful use of the extensive US acreage of hemp would have made a real mess of his retirement plans. Nobody's got the political bottle to change it back now.