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yoak
Dec 8, 2004, 01:39 PM
So the day is almost here.
I got this idea when my girlfriend fell in love with the iPod this summer after seeing my cousinsīhusbandīs iPod in action.
Great, Iīll get her one (which we both can use) for our anniversary I thought.
When I got online to order one from the Apple store, (as you probably know) they were offering free inscription. I saw this as the perfect way of ask her to marry me. So I got an 20G iPod with the inscrition:
Ana My Love
Will you marry me?
Due to too much work itīs been sitting in my cupboard for a week, but tomorrow she will recive the gift. Canīt wait til she turns it around and read the back of it.
Getting nervous just writing this



blackfox
Dec 8, 2004, 01:41 PM
Oh, what a modern world we live in...

Good luck to you mate, I hope it goes well.

Be sure to let us know.

kgarner
Dec 8, 2004, 01:43 PM
Congrats! And best of luck to both of you.

Kwyjibo
Dec 8, 2004, 01:46 PM
Its gonna be funny if they messed up the scription, but wow, at first I was expecting you put an MP3 on it and modified the TAGS of like her favorite song or your song. Pretty good idea tho man.

Josh
Dec 8, 2004, 01:46 PM
hehe I just posted this thread in my forums :D

Good luck to ya man!

(you're going to be eFamous!)

yoak
Dec 8, 2004, 01:47 PM
Thanks guys, Iīll let you know.

jsw
Dec 8, 2004, 01:48 PM
Best of luck! The proposal is certainly not ordinary and therefore is memorable!

I hope she says yes. If not, that inscription might make it hard to sell on eBay.... ;)

Now, if it were an iPod Photo, you could have had a picture of the ring on the screen....

yoak
Dec 8, 2004, 01:50 PM
Its gonna be funny if they messed up the scription, but wow, at first I was expecting you put an MP3 on it and modified the TAGS of like her favorite song or your song. Pretty good idea tho man.

I thought of modifying the tags too, but then Iīll have to open the box.
Now itīs sealed, and look completly innocent. Iīm pretty sure she hasnīt been to the Apple store, so she has no idea about the fact that you can get it inscribed

stubeeef
Dec 8, 2004, 01:52 PM
Original!

jsw
Dec 8, 2004, 01:58 PM
I thought of modifying the tags too, but then Iīll have to open the box.
Now itīs sealed, and look completly innocent. Iīm pretty sure she hasnīt been to the Apple store, so she has no idea about the fact that you can get it inscribed
Ah, I hadn't realized she'd be opening a sealed box (obvious, but I hadn't thought of it). Very, very excellent idea!

dotnina
Dec 8, 2004, 01:58 PM
That's so cute! Hope everything goes well for you tomorrow. :)

Where will you be proposing?

jackieonasses
Dec 8, 2004, 02:06 PM
Will you include a ring with that? If so what a wonderful way to propose.

howard
Dec 8, 2004, 02:10 PM
that is really cool

great thing to have around as a memory too, you can look back at the ipod years from now and remember the day you proposed.

that will make for some great conversations for her in the future too

haiggy
Dec 8, 2004, 02:43 PM
Not really being of age or anything:

Do girls prefer you ask them in person or some cute way as in a sign or something? Or will they not care and just say yes if they love you that much? :cool:

emw
Dec 8, 2004, 02:48 PM
Congratulations - and quite creative. I hope all goes well. Be sure to let us know!

AmigoMac
Dec 8, 2004, 02:48 PM
Very nice idea, great, I wish you all the best... and then you will ask her if you may buy the latest Mac on the market :p ;) ... Honey...?

emw
Dec 8, 2004, 02:50 PM
Not really being of age or anything:

Do girls prefer you ask them in person or some cute way as in a sign or something? Or will they not care and just say yes if they love you that much? :cool:

Well, having only had one shot at it so far (she accepted), I'm no expert, but it's my opinion that it depends on the couple. No two women are alike, and so you can't really come up with a definitive answer. When the time comes, you'll know.

yoak
Dec 8, 2004, 02:52 PM
I have had problems finding a ring. This was one of the reasons the iPod seemed such a great idea. I will go out again tomorrow (first day off in ages, worked on the Norwegian version of "The Apprentice" two months straight) and hopefully find one. I have a few in mind, just got to find "the" right one.

yoak
Dec 8, 2004, 02:53 PM
Will you include a ring with that? If so what a wonderful way to propose.
Ooops, forgot the quote

Chip NoVaMac
Dec 8, 2004, 02:55 PM
So totally cool! Best wishes for you both.

Love seeing/hearing about unique proposals. Proposed to my ex-girlfriend in the middle of the LIE during an Earth Day demonstration.

jsw
Dec 8, 2004, 02:58 PM
Not really being of age or anything:

Do girls prefer you ask them in person or some cute way as in a sign or something? Or will they not care and just say yes if they love you that much? :cool:
I suspect that, in all of history, maybe 5 women have decided to marry or not marry a man based only on the quality or lack thereof of his proposal. The uniqueness and/or timing and/or appropriateness of the proposal is important, but the question itself is vastly more important than the staging of the asking of it.

With luck, yoak has managed to conceal his intent. Too often, proposals are merely formalities or even consents on the part of the asker. Those rare times when a desired but unexpected question is asked in a memorable way are what women value.

So, knowing as much about women as I do (which, arguably, is almost inconceivably little given that amount that I should know by now), I'd say the best part of a proposal would be if the woman wants to get married but doesn't think the guy is ready for it. The surprise is key ingredient number one. The presentation is also key, but is best when combined with the first part. I think yoak has a great idea. There is surprise and uniqueness of presentation. 9.8 from the American judge (0.2 point reduction for not using a pink mini ;)).

StarbucksSam
Dec 8, 2004, 03:00 PM
That is so cute. How creative. I hope she says yes.

zelmo
Dec 8, 2004, 03:10 PM
I suspect that, in all of history, maybe 5 women have decided to marry or not marry a man based only on the quality or lack thereof of his proposal. The uniqueness and/or timing and/or appropriateness of the proposal is important, but the question itself is vastly more important than the staging of the asking of it.

With luck, yoak has managed to conceal his intent. Too often, proposals are merely formalities or even consents on the part of the asker. Those rare times when a desired but unexpected question is asked in a memorable way are what women value.

So, knowing as much about women as I do (which, arguably, is almost inconceivably little given that amount that I should know by now), I'd say the best part of a proposal would be if the woman wants to get married but doesn't think the guy is ready for it. The surprise is key ingredient number one. The presentation is also key, but is best when combined with the first part. I think yoak has a great idea. There is surprise and uniqueness of presentation. 9.8 from the American judge (0.2 point reduction for not using a pink mini ;)).

Hey jsw, I'm not sure it's worth a 0.2 deduction. In fact, I think it shows he is romantic and practical at the same time. While a pink mini is awesome, if they are planning to share the iPod as well as the rest of their lives, a 20G'er is almost mandatory. I give you a solid 10.0, yoak!

Congrats and Good Luck!

Chip NoVaMac
Dec 8, 2004, 03:11 PM
Very well said JSW.

Being a romantic, I have had a hand in a few proposals for friends that were clueless:

- a proposal in hot air balloon ride at sunset

- a proposal at the beach - the "will you marry me" was written in the sand

- a proposal at a mountain hideaway - the "will you.." were on signs, like the Burma Shave signs, on the drive way up to the cabin

Fortunately all three women said yes, which we all sort of knew would. :)

flyfish29
Dec 8, 2004, 03:13 PM
So totally cool! Best wishes for you both.

Love seeing/hearing about unique proposals. Proposed to my ex-girlfriend in the middle of the LIE during an Earth Day demonstration.

yeah, very nice way! I asked my wife to marry me using a Winnie the Pooh doll (she loves Pooh) and attached a ring box to his hand...when she unwrapped it and saw the pooh she looked up immediately and smiled...didn't see the ring box for a few seconds after I just sat there and waited. She said yes obviously...well sort of...she just nodder her head...to this day we don't think she ever said yes, but we got married anyway. :)

Mantat
Dec 8, 2004, 03:45 PM
The idea is excellent! But I have to agree that you are subject to the .2 "non pink iPod for girl" rule...Sorry!

Actually, I might do something like this when I will propose, should be around next summer (waiting to live together a few months first to make sure everything is smooth). I will go the iPodPhoto way, using pictures of all our goos moments and put a pic of a big dollar ring at the end (modeled in Maya ;-).

Some people say that I am not romantic. In fact, I just hate the normal social convention such as giving flowers, candies, etc... I find these things too cheesy having been used by countless grunts without imagination.

Same thing for the ring, I read a book about the evolution of the diamond market throu the centuries. Its incredible how they manage to convince the customers that the value of your love is represented by the cost of the wedding ring. 'Diamonds are for ever' was invented by (oh crap, cant remember!) a long time ago and still has a lot of mindshare.

Btw, talking about diamonds, anyone with a moral should never buy diamonds since they promote war and human exploitation in Affrica. Go with other precious stone if you like to no diamonds! No mater what the seller says, there is no way to make sure of the origin of a stone. Canada tried to certify its diamond a few years ago but it prooved a limited success.

Sorry for the rant, it was my social rant of the day ;-)

Keep us posted and I wish you all the best!

agreenster
Dec 8, 2004, 04:25 PM
'Diamonds are for ever' was invented by (oh crap, cant remember!) a long time ago and still has a lot of mindshare.

DeBeers

No matter what though, most women want a rock. As long as my wife lets me get my Macs, she can have her jewelry. Get off your soap box about diamonds--unless you also dont ever use gasoline...

Mantat
Dec 8, 2004, 04:37 PM
DeBeers

No matter what though, most women want a rock. As long as my wife lets me get my Macs, she can have her jewelry. Get off your soap box about diamonds--unless you also dont ever use gasoline...

DeBeers! Thats exactly what I was looking for! Another great evil of the earth.

And I vote with my dollar, if enough people would understand the real power of customer maybe we would see some changes. Anyways, I dont buy from Walmart, McDonald, Nike, Rebooke, etc... I always buy from local store, I figured out that the 5$ per week that I have to over pay for my groceries are well spent!

I understand why you said that. You are in a country where the end justify the mean. In this case, promoting war just to please a lady. This is the sens of moral that USians are known for on the rest of the earth. I am happy to know that at least, not everyone there think like that!

kgarner
Dec 8, 2004, 04:38 PM
DeBeers

No matter what though, most women want a rock. As long as my wife lets me get my Macs, she can have her jewelry. Get off your soap box about diamonds--unless you also dont ever use gasoline...
...or electricity.

agreenster
Dec 8, 2004, 04:46 PM
[QUOTE=MantatThis is the sense of moral that USians are known for on the rest of the earth. I am happy to know that at least, not everyone there think like that![/QUOTE]

C'mon man. I hate it when people bash the US.

Don't judge the masses based on the actions of the few.

Not buying from a chain store doesnt make you a saint, eating a big mac doesnt make you evil.

Mantat
Dec 8, 2004, 04:47 PM
...or electricity.
Since when are war fought for electricity? Or children work on 14h shift to make it? Or that the money made by selling electricity used to destroy village and attack other countries?

Even for gasoline, the problem of war and children exploitation is mostly present in Soudan. Of course there is the war vs Irak but last time I checked, there was no child sweatshop.

I think the real problem with diamonds is that the public doesnt know that there is a problem to start with! Inform yourself, google for 'blood diamonds' and also look at which countries are the biggest diamonds producers. From all of these, only Canada and with a stretch Russia are countries with some human right chart and a democratic governement. Maybe after doing these homework you will make the connection between diamonds and world suffering.

jxyama
Dec 8, 2004, 05:10 PM
just curious... why tomorrow? is it a special day for you and your lady?

congratulations. i hope it goes well. :)

kgarner
Dec 8, 2004, 05:17 PM
Since when are war fought for electricity? Or children work on 14h shift to make it? Or that the money made by selling electricity used to destroy village and attack other countries?

Even for gasoline, the problem of war and children exploitation is mostly present in Soudan. Of course there is the war vs Irak but last time I checked, there was no child sweatshop.

I think the real problem with diamonds is that the public doesnt know that there is a problem to start with! Inform yourself, google for 'blood diamonds' and also look at which countries are the biggest diamonds producers. From all of these, only Canada and with a stretch Russia are countries with some human right chart and a democratic governement. Maybe after doing these homework you will make the connection between diamonds and world suffering.
Wasn't referencing war or child labor particularly. I read agreensters comment and thought of environmental issues which lead me to think of how electricity is produced and how that is really no different than using gasoline (in environmental factors).

rueyeet
Dec 8, 2004, 05:23 PM
Some people say that I am not romantic. In fact, I just hate the normal social convention such as giving flowers, candies, etc.......Same thing for the ring, I read a book about the evolution of the diamond market throu the centuries. Its incredible how they manage to convince the customers that the value of your love is represented by the cost of the wedding ring. As a woman, I hate this too. While most women have been trained from an early age to buy into that crap, the automatic assumption that any female is going to be impressed and/or mollified by flowers or candy or jewelry is really annoying if, like me, you're a gal who could care less about that stuff.

Even more annoying and wrong-headed are the comparisons between female friends recently engaged as to who got the biggest rock. :rolleyes: My best friend rationalizes this by saying that if the man isn't willing to make a sizable financial commitment--she says the rule of thumb should be about a month's salary, whatever that happens to be for your guy--on a ring, he's not serious about you. I have other measures of seriousness, but what the hey.

If a guy's going to shower me with an expensive engagement gift, better a top-of-the-line iPod than an overpriced chunk of white sparkly mineral. The iPod I can use.

And yes, in case you're wondering, people often say I'm unromantic too. :p

/rant

But I digress--yoak: The iPod idea is completely awesome, and I wish you good luck on her reply!

kgarner
Dec 8, 2004, 05:24 PM
Also, my apologies to yoak as this thread about what should be a happy occasion for him has now turned rather morbid.

Let's get back to offering our heartfelt congratulations to the man and start a new thread about the morality of diamonds if we must.

Littleodie914
Dec 8, 2004, 05:28 PM
Wow! Great idea man. Be sure to keep us updated, eh? (And pray to God your girlfriend doesn't visit MR! :D )

jxyama
Dec 8, 2004, 05:36 PM
i think it's quite "hip" to reject the notion of buying a diamond. in the end, you are right, it's just a stone. and it is quite expensive. but to me, no matter the history, it's one of those occasions i feel a couple can indulge in completely useless but very special things. how often does that happen? why do everything we buy/do need be useful or purposeful? i feel that it's a nice excuse - within the financial means, of course - to take a break from being so practical all the time. where's the romance in being practical?

a well cut and made diamond is quite beautiful. may not be worth thousands in practical terms, but it does sparkle and shine quite nicely. and it's not how much you spend on it. that's usually an observation from people with a wrong/biased perspective of the whole thing, i feel. if you are in a position to propose, you will see that how much you spend on the rock is not a factor at all. well, if it was, you probably don't want to be marrying that person.

for the boys: if you find that one special girl, i strongly suggest listening to her. this is one time you probably shouldn't insist on your practical views. listen to what she wants and talk about it if the need be.

for the girls: if you feel you don't really need a diamond, fine, let him know of your viewpoint. but don't insist on it either. if he feels it's something special he wants to share with you, then don't reject it on your principles. i don't think it's necessarily evil, as long as he won't be bunkrupting himself to get the ring...

StarbucksSam
Dec 8, 2004, 06:09 PM
how often does that happen?

Well with our 50.5% divorce rate in the United States, it actually happens a lot more than you think. ;) Julia Roberts.

Congrats Yoak. Tell us how it goes.

Deefuzz
Dec 8, 2004, 06:14 PM
Awesome idea man! Show us a picture of that iPod when all is said and done! ;)

Good luck!

howard
Dec 8, 2004, 06:18 PM
i have talked with my girlfriend a lot about the whole ring thing

my take is with the "why spend that much on a useless stone when we can invest it in our future"

but i can't force my opinions, and if she wants a nice ring and she enjoys that, though i don't understand it, i can't really argue with her.

emdotdee
Dec 8, 2004, 06:27 PM
hey yoak
hope it all goes great for ya, make sure you tell us how it went
:)

Applespider
Dec 8, 2004, 07:02 PM
I'll give you a perfect 10 - no loss for not being a pink mini.

Funnily enough, my company has just done some analysis on who buys what colours. Most women buying minis for themselves buy silver rather than pink... And as a woman, I'd rather have a silver than a pink to back that up (particularly since the pink is now more of a mauve...eurgh!)

apple2991
Dec 8, 2004, 07:20 PM
DeBeers

No matter what though, most women want a rock. As long as my wife lets me get my Macs, she can have her jewelry. Get off your soap box about diamonds--unless you also dont ever use gasoline...

Erm, not really. There is a large difference. It's a matter of reasonable conscientiousness on the part of the consumer. There is a world of difference between being limited as a consumer within the constructs of society--meaning urban sprawl, etc. It's sort of similar to not buying an SUV or some other low gas mileage automobile if you manage with something more efficient or a hybrid. I know that I can't reasonably ask everyone to ride a bicycle, like I do, but I can ask that they are as conscientious as possible, within the social constraints given.

It's real easy not to buy a diamond and support the greed and malice that controls that industry. Just look slightly to the left at the plethora of other jewels that would make any non-gluttonous, life-respecting consumer (if that's not an oxymoron) happy.

agreenster
Dec 8, 2004, 08:41 PM
My point wasnt necessarily limited to gasoline. Nearly every commercial good somehow spurs war or terrible work conditions or poverty

The rich get richer...

wdlove
Dec 8, 2004, 08:59 PM
You sound like the sensitive type of guy, yoak. That is such a sweet, sentimental thing to do as a wedding proposal. Such a unique thing to do. She will certainly be shocked. Good luck. Will look forward to hear about her reaction.

Doctor Q
Dec 8, 2004, 09:03 PM
If you know a girl well enough to propose, you'll likely know what type of proposal suits her best: old-fashioned, wacky, high-tech, humorous, whatever. It's a big moment and, even if you know she'll say yes, you want it to be a moment she (and you too, for that matter) will remember fondly.

Maybe other MacRumors members will tell us about their proposal experiences too. But let's let yoak tell us how his proposal tomorrow turns out first!

Good luck!

Mechcozmo
Dec 8, 2004, 09:23 PM
Great idea!

????! Or, in English, "To Life!"

[EDIT: The mass of question marks should be hebrew. It should say "L'chaim" but in hebrew. I guess that the text didn't quite make the jump through vBulletin and HTML and whatnot.]

Which is a traditional Jewish saying for pretty much anything good. Basically, it means here: "Here is to many long years of happiness!"

Now, lets eat!

jxyama
Dec 8, 2004, 09:50 PM
my take is with the "why spend that much on a useless stone when we can invest it in our future"

a lot of people think that way, and again, it's very pragmatic and not very romantic, imo.

if you are being reasonable, a diamond will not make such a big difference. diamond might be what she want - and don't you want to see her happy and be happy for her too? - you shouldn't be so quick to say it's a "useless stone."

howard
Dec 8, 2004, 11:15 PM
a lot of people think that way, and again, it's very pragmatic and not very romantic, imo.

if you are being reasonable, a diamond will not make such a big difference. diamond might be what she want - and don't you want to see her happy and be happy for her too? - you shouldn't be so quick to say it's a "useless stone."

thats exactly what i've been coming to realize

williamsonrg
Dec 9, 2004, 12:00 AM
I was thinking of proposing with an iPod as well, although that day is a few months off. But now she's asked for an iPod for Christmas, so I dunno if I'll get the chance.

She gave me an iPod (my first) for our anniversary and the inscription anticipated that I would respond by saying she shouldn't have spent so much:

"You deserve to be spoiled."

jsw
Dec 9, 2004, 12:12 AM
I was thinking of proposing with an iPod as well, although that day is a few months off. But now she's asked for an iPod for Christmas, so I dunno if I'll get the chance.

She gave me an iPod (my first) for our anniversary and the inscription anticipated that I would respond by saying she shouldn't have spent so much:

"You deserve to be spoiled."
Uh oh. Now you're going to have to get a really nice ring for her. ;)

yoak
Dec 9, 2004, 02:30 AM
Hi everyone.
Thanks for all the posts.
I just woke up to the big day. Quite excited right now.
Sorry canīt remember who asked; but the day is a week after our anniversary, so hopefully she donīt see it comming. :D
Iīll keep you posted

munkle
Dec 9, 2004, 04:35 AM
Hi everyone.
Thanks for all the posts.
I just woke up to the big day. Quite excited right now.
Sorry canīt remember who asked; but the day is a week after our anniversary, so hopefully she donīt see it comming. :D
Iīll keep you posted

Just caught onto this thread...how great is this?! Best of luck yoak, can't wait to hear how it went! :)

stubeeef
Dec 9, 2004, 04:50 AM
Good luck dude, lots of us will smile for you today! :)

virividox
Dec 9, 2004, 05:19 AM
good luck!!!

neilrobinson
Dec 9, 2004, 05:35 AM
good luck & hope it all goes well!

a fantastic idea. :) , also just the look on her face. :D

redAPPLE
Dec 9, 2004, 06:00 AM
just read page one of this thread... and i got a question...

how would you say "turn the iPod around..."? what if she doesn't turn it around? if i get an iPod i would never think about turning it around and looking if there is something written there...

Chip NoVaMac
Dec 9, 2004, 06:39 AM
a lot of people think that way, and again, it's very pragmatic and not very romantic, imo.

if you are being reasonable, a diamond will not make such a big difference. diamond might be what she want - and don't you want to see her happy and be happy for her too? - you shouldn't be so quick to say it's a "useless stone."

And then we have the jewelry companies telling us that we need to spend, what three months salary, on a diamond.... :eek:

AmigoMac
Dec 9, 2004, 07:31 AM
just read page one of this thread... and i got a question...

how would you say "turn the iPod around..."? what if she doesn't turn it around? if i get an iPod i would never think about turning it around and looking if there is something written there...

:confused: ... if you get surprised with an iPod as present, you do mean, you just take it, look at it (front view only) and to the pocket? :confused: :rolleyes:

Dude, she will be surprised, she will take it, will jump, shake, will take a look at every side and of course the backside will be the second place.

but if she doesn't look at its backside in a week... :p

zelmo
Dec 9, 2004, 08:19 AM
just read page one of this thread... and i got a question...

how would you say "turn the iPod around..."? what if she doesn't turn it around? if i get an iPod i would never think about turning it around and looking if there is something written there...

Hopefully, she'll turn it over when she peels off that protective plastic sheet, if not before. When I got my iPod, i turned it over in my hands as soon as I got it out of the box...but I really like shiny things ;)

broken_keyboard
Dec 9, 2004, 08:39 AM
You should have the ring ready in your pocket...

jxyama
Dec 9, 2004, 08:51 AM
And then we have the jewelry companies telling us that we need to spend, what three months salary, on a diamond.... :eek:

well, that's why i said "reasonable." i'm not buying into the conventions set by those companies. i would consult my own finances and what she likes then make my own decision. ;)

also, i believe it's two months, not three. but given the financial incentives for the jewelry companies, it may now be three. :D

good luck to the guy! (it was me who asked why today. good call - so she won't expect it. but what did you get her for the anniversary?)

heaven
Dec 9, 2004, 08:58 AM
GOOD LUCK

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dobbin
Dec 9, 2004, 09:01 AM
Good luck man, that is a cool idea. I wish I had done something clever like that, but I went for the very traditional 'down on one knee with a ring' in a restaurant. The hardest thing was getting her to actually say the word yes. She just sat there smiling and started crying! What was that supposed to mean, yes or no? I had to ask her again, and she replied 'of course I will stupid'.

Enjoy your day, I hope this is the start of many more happy days in the future.

Please let us all know how it goes.

geese
Dec 9, 2004, 09:13 AM
I've got an original idea on how to propose-

If i could alter the 'blue screen of death' on my girlfriends PC to read 'will you marry me?' do you think that would be cute?

If not, maybe get MS offices stupid 'clip-it' to propose to her

Giaguara
Dec 9, 2004, 09:29 AM
first, a cute idea. let us know how it goes... :)

i was thinking of getting an ipod mini to the guy i loved .. in hte previous relationship (ended). (and mini since he had a 3rd gen.)


Not really being of age or anything:

Do girls prefer you ask them in person or some cute way as in a sign or something? Or will they not care and just say yes if they love you that much? :cool:


I personally don't care, since it's more the person that counts. I was lying sick in the hospital when I was kind of .. asked if I want to spend the rest of my life with my him. Oh yes. And it's a yes since I want to spend all my life with him, not because he had got me earlier an iPod mini (heh, was thinking of engraving something to it he later told.. I wonder what that would have had in it?) .. or for anything else material or original or less original.

If it's a yes ... personally it's a yes, if it's the right person. Only if. :)

Chip NoVaMac
Dec 9, 2004, 10:34 AM
well, that's why i said "reasonable." i'm not buying into the conventions set by those companies. i would consult my own finances and what she likes then make my own decision. ;)

also, i believe it's two months, not three. but given the financial incentives for the jewelry companies, it may now be three. :D

good luck to the guy! (it was me who asked why today. good call - so she won't expect it. but what did you get her for the anniversary?)

Wasn't sure whether it was two or three months salary.

I know that we will all be waiting to here how it went tonite? Crossing my fingers, saying a prayer, and lighting candles for the guy! :)

williamsonrg
Dec 9, 2004, 11:26 AM
The best take on the diamond industry is probably in "Family Guy," which parodies those ads with the shadow figures. As the female figure slowly gets on her knees, the caption says, "She'll have to."

Sorry, I just always try and get "Family Guy" quotes out there.

Mantat
Dec 9, 2004, 11:27 AM
Btw, if you ever have to buy jewels, NEVER pay the advertised price, EVER! If you have a budget of let say 1k$, look at jewells in the 1,5-1,6k$ and make the price drop.

I have a friend who used to own a shop and when he talked to me about the margins they had I almost fell to the ground. Its also a good trick to be the first customer of the day, some people think its bad luck to reject the first client of the day.

----

And since its the official day,I will say it again: GOOD LUCK!
But if she doesnt see the inscription right away, leave it like that. She will eventualy notice it and her reaction will be even greater.

yoak
Dec 9, 2004, 11:45 AM
So a big thank you to all of you who have followed this thread and wished me luck.
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!
She couldnīt belive it, very surprised. It was a great success!!
And yes, the plastic with the "Donīt steal music" sheet covered the inscription so it took a while before she read it. Luckily she unwraped it on the spot
Then she looked very confused for a few seconds, before she said YES.
It all took place during the most fantastic sunset over a snow covered Oslo.
I took her up in to the hill/mountain over looking the Oslofjord.

:)
We are off to a resturant now to celebrate the rest of the evening :D

jsw
Dec 9, 2004, 11:46 AM
Congratulations!! Best of luck to both of you!

Rower_CPU
Dec 9, 2004, 11:47 AM
Congratulations!

Now get off the internet and go celebrate!! :D

blackfox
Dec 9, 2004, 11:48 AM
So a big thank you to all of you who have followed this thread and wished me luck.
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!
She couldnīt belive it, very surprised. It was a great success!!
And yes, the plastic with the "Donīt steal music" sheet covered the inscription so it took a while before she read it. Luckily she unwraped it on the spot
Then she looked very confused for a few seconds, before she said YES.
It all took place during the most fantastic sunset over a snow covered Oslo.
I took her up in to the hill/mountain over looking the Oslofjord.

:)
We are off to a resturant now to celebrate the rest of the evening :D
Excellent. I wish the best to you both.

jsw
Dec 9, 2004, 11:48 AM
And, of course, thanks for letting us know the answer before you went to dinner. Must be a great girl - she let you post a reply immediately after such a momentous occasion.... ;)

munkle
Dec 9, 2004, 11:49 AM
Wahey!! :) :)

Big Congratulations!! Really happy for you that it all worked out.

Mantat
Dec 9, 2004, 11:51 AM
Congrats!
Now you need to place a reservation for an Applestore to celebrate your wedding! How geek could that be? ;-)

munkle
Dec 9, 2004, 12:11 PM
I love stories with a happy ending, I do! :D Somebody should send this story into Apple.

AmigoMac
Dec 9, 2004, 12:20 PM
Congratulations! I wish you all the best, that's the iLove story of the year in macrumors... is there another one? :) , take care with the operating temperatures though ;)

emw
Dec 9, 2004, 12:25 PM
Awesome news! Good luck with everything - since now comes the hard part ;)

Jovian9
Dec 9, 2004, 12:29 PM
Awesome news! Good luck with everything - since now comes the hard part ;)

Exactly.



Congratulations and good luck!

Lyle
Dec 9, 2004, 12:50 PM
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!Very cool, congratulations. May you and she have many happy years together.

Chip NoVaMac
Dec 9, 2004, 01:17 PM
So a big thank you to all of you who have followed this thread and wished me luck.
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!
She couldnīt belive it, very surprised. It was a great success!!
And yes, the plastic with the "Donīt steal music" sheet covered the inscription so it took a while before she read it. Luckily she unwraped it on the spot
Then she looked very confused for a few seconds, before she said YES.
It all took place during the most fantastic sunset over a snow covered Oslo.
I took her up in to the hill/mountain over looking the Oslofjord.

:)
We are off to a resturant now to celebrate the rest of the evening :D

A big congratulations, hope your weren't shaken by those couple of seconds (which probably seemed like hours :) )!

Chip NoVaMac
Dec 9, 2004, 01:19 PM
So a big thank you to all of you who have followed this thread and wished me luck.
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!
She couldnīt belive it, very surprised. It was a great success!!
And yes, the plastic with the "Donīt steal music" sheet covered the inscription so it took a while before she read it. Luckily she unwraped it on the spot
Then she looked very confused for a few seconds, before she said YES.
It all took place during the most fantastic sunset over a snow covered Oslo.
I took her up in to the hill/mountain over looking the Oslofjord.

:)
We are off to a resturant now to celebrate the rest of the evening :D

So I guess you will be flying all over for the wedding? :D

jxyama
Dec 9, 2004, 01:48 PM
congratulations. what a gal, that let's you update on MR before going off to dinner. :D

Btw, if you ever have to buy jewels, NEVER pay the advertised price, EVER! If you have a budget of let say 1k$, look at jewells in the 1,5-1,6k$ and make the price drop.

I have a friend who used to own a shop and when he talked to me about the margins they had I almost fell to the ground. Its also a good trick to be the first customer of the day, some people think its bad luck to reject the first client of the day.


wondered about this myself... what about places like Tiffany's, which is known to not discount..?

zelmo
Dec 9, 2004, 01:54 PM
Congrats, yoak. You have done the hardest part - found another person you love enough to want to offer them the rest of your life. Sure, marriage is difficult, and it takes work by both parties, but finding someone you WANT to marry? Not everyone finds that, sad to say.
Enjoy this moment, get off your computer, and go and make that girl happy!

mslifkin
Dec 9, 2004, 01:55 PM
So a big thank you to all of you who have followed this thread and wished me luck.
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!
She couldnīt belive it, very surprised. It was a great success!!
And yes, the plastic with the "Donīt steal music" sheet covered the inscription so it took a while before she read it. Luckily she unwraped it on the spot
Then she looked very confused for a few seconds, before she said YES.
It all took place during the most fantastic sunset over a snow covered Oslo.
I took her up in to the hill/mountain over looking the Oslofjord.

:)
We are off to a resturant now to celebrate the rest of the evening :D

Congratulations! That is fantastic. I'm so glad it turned out well. Best of luck to the both of you, and may you have many happy years together.

Regards,
Marc

Doctor Q
Dec 9, 2004, 02:01 PM
Congratulations, yoak, and congratulations to the future mrsyoak too! What a wonderful start to your engagement!

You picked the perfect spot. The Oslofjord is the most beautiful place on the planet, of those I've seen. I hope to visit there again someday, since I was only there before I was married. Maybe I'll stop by one of these years to give you an anniversary card. When will the wedding be?

And, for those keeping score, the secondmost beautiful place I've seen is the meadow in northern Yosemite (California) just as the winter snow starts to melt in the spring.

whenpaulsparks
Dec 9, 2004, 02:06 PM
this is really heartwarming! congratulations! it was neat to see this unfold!!! :-D

geese
Dec 9, 2004, 02:16 PM
Couldn't you have used a Dell DJ? :D

stubeeef
Dec 9, 2004, 02:43 PM
Gave me the smile I needed today! Congrats, enjoy! :)

AmigoMac
Dec 9, 2004, 02:51 PM
Couldn't you have used a Dell DJ? :D

:eek: ... she would have make it crap on his head before the "I'm not sure, have to think about it" :)

williamsonrg
Dec 9, 2004, 03:13 PM
I love stories with a happy ending, I do! :D Somebody should send this story into Apple.


Not trying to be a party pooper (really, I'm not), but Apple already shows a picture of an iPod with a "Will you marry me?" inscription in their gallery of iPod inscriptions.

Still a great story! Congrats!

rueyeet
Dec 9, 2004, 03:25 PM
a well cut and made diamond is quite beautiful. may not be worth thousands in practical terms, but it does sparkle and shine quite nicely. It's not about the practicality vs. sentiment, per se....it's that jewelry isn't my thing, and I'm not fond of diamonds in particular. It's more the assumption of most guys I've dated that I'd want a diamond because ALL women like diamonds (or flowers, or whatever stereotypical stuff) that I find annoying.

The day I find a guy who cares enough to find out what *I* like, not just what he thinks all women like, I may actually be tempted to marry.

Looks like yoak's gal has found such a man. Long life and much happiness to you both!! *raises a toast*

jxyama
Dec 9, 2004, 03:35 PM
It's not about the practicality vs. sentiment, per se....it's that jewelry isn't my thing, and I'm not fond of diamonds in particular. It's more the assumption of most guys I've dated that I'd want a diamond because ALL women like diamonds (or flowers, or whatever stereotypical stuff) that I find annoying.

again, good point and it's completely valid. but you also need to think of what he wants to do too. you may not want diamonds. but he may want to give you one - for whatever the reason. giving diamond/proposing is not so much he's giving you what you want - it's a mutual occasion to celebrate. i'm not saying you will be dismissing him from giving you a diamond but if he wants to give you a diamond, it may not only be because he's been conditioned to, but maybe he just wants to? something to think about.

Mantat
Dec 9, 2004, 03:50 PM
congratulations. what a gal, that let's you update on MR before going off to dinner. :D



wondered about this myself... what about places like Tiffany's, which is known to not discount..?

You wont get a rebate there. But there is no point of going there, their markup is over 80% and might seem glorious but thats no proof of quality and original products.

Personnaly, I go to either small shops where you can talk to the owner, he is the one that will give you a rebate, not Joe Someone who works there at 10$/h. Except for electronic stuff, I always go to stores where I can talk to the owner or his family, thats the best way to get a good price and also have the best service. For exemple, before I moved, I got all my fruits from a small cornerstore. Since I wanted them to make juice, he gave me all the fruits who didnt look good or overdue at half price. Talking to the boss is always the best way to be served 'cause he knows that a happy customer is a returning customer!

jxyama
Dec 9, 2004, 04:07 PM
You wont get a rebate there. But there is no point of going there, their markup is over 80% and might seem glorious but thats no proof of quality and original products.

thanks for the info. i'm fairly certain you are generalizing tiffany's (and other chain jewelry stores) a bit, but it's additional info nonetheless.

Deefuzz
Dec 9, 2004, 05:02 PM
awesome news! Congratulations!!

nbs2
Dec 9, 2004, 05:41 PM
yoak - I'm really happy for you! I'll be proposing tomorrow, so hopefully some of your luck will rub off on me. Just out of curiosity, which hill was it that you went to (i.e. was it the one with what I believe is a military fort?)? I went to Norway when I travelled Western Europe, Scotland, and Scandanavia and I personally think Norway was the most beautiful country I have ever seen - not to mention the women.

diamond people - while there is the issue of the blood diamonds and that debate has been raging, I think the point that what she would like to have is the most important. It not an issue of the end of pleasing the woman justifying the means, but the fact that the ring isn't something that you do for yourself. I see giving the ring as being something that you do to, for lack of a better word, serve her. While I think blood diamonds are bad, and would prefer a Russian diamond over an African any day of the week, you have to look at what will make her happy and is reasonable. As has been mentioned, it is almost impossible to determine where the mine is.
You will be spending the rest of your life with the woman. I didn't buy my pb, new scuba gear, or anything of value before getting her opinion since our finances will be shared. The ring is the only thing that I haven't talked to her about. If getting a diamond is something that will make her happy, and is within your finances, then do it. That also means that if she's opposed to it, but you want it, make the sacrifice for her. It really all feeds into the idea that people are too selfish in marriage these days and try to find what their spouse can do to make them happy, instead of the other way around.

yoak, once again, congratulations and i wish you all the best in your marriage.

virividox
Dec 9, 2004, 05:59 PM
congratulations!!! i hope you have a long and fruitfull marriage and you and your wife to be grow to learn more about each other and love each other as the days and years go by :) congratulations!!!

Mechcozmo
Dec 9, 2004, 07:21 PM
:)

Now, it would be both sad, funny, and ironic if you received an iPod that read "I'm getting a divorce" after the wedding...

Not that I want that to happen-- It would be pretty funny though. In the sick and twisted humor that is our lives...

Hope you really are together until "Death do us part"!

Rocksaurus
Dec 9, 2004, 08:45 PM
This is the coolest thing ever. I <3 Yoak.

wdlove
Dec 9, 2004, 09:51 PM
So a big thank you to all of you who have followed this thread and wished me luck.
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!
She couldnīt believe it, very surprised. It was a great success!!
And yes, the plastic with the "Don't steal music" sheet covered the inscription so it took a while before she read it. Luckily she unwrapped it on the spot
Then she looked very confused for a few seconds, before she said YES.
It all took place during the most fantastic sunset over a snow covered Oslo.
I took her up in to the hill/mountain over looking the Oslofjord.

:)
We are off to a restaurant now to celebrate the rest of the evening :D

Congratulations yoak, that was such a romantic thing. The location even added to this very special proposal. This is something that you will be telling your grandchildren. Your fiance is a very lucky young lady, I pray that you will have happiness and long life together. Did you take any pictures of the location.

StarbucksSam
Dec 9, 2004, 09:58 PM
Oh my gosh, that's so great. Congrats supreme. When is your wedding? Yay.

Sweetfeld28
Dec 9, 2004, 10:58 PM
Heres a toast to much happiness, and love:

MacFan26
Dec 10, 2004, 02:06 AM
I had to let out a big "awwwww" when I read your post :) Congratulations!!!! :D I'm so glad that it worked out for you and I wish you two the best :)


As for the question about how women want to be proposed to, I'm another one of those that believes if that's even an issue you shouldn't be getting married in the first place. Too many people are out there "for the rock" and it's just annoying. And people wonder why half of marriages end up in divorces. :rolleyes:

scem0
Dec 10, 2004, 02:47 AM
Yes, 'awwwwww', sums up my feelings pretty well.

I'm very happy for you!

scem0

Jaffa Cake
Dec 10, 2004, 04:10 AM
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!

Congratulations!

My girlfriend was taking a look at the boards last night and I've got explicit instructions I'm to tell her what happened with your proposal. I just hope you've not gone and put any ideas in her head...

Of course, you're going to have to top this when you actually tie the knot. I'd start saving now for that dual 2.5 G5 for your first wedding anniversary present. ;)

Congrats again!

dobbin
Dec 10, 2004, 04:13 AM
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

neut
Dec 10, 2004, 09:56 AM
It all took place during the most fantastic sunset over a snow covered Oslo.
I took her up in to the hill/mountain over looking the Oslofjord.

:)
We are off to a resturant now to celebrate the rest of the evening :D


****ing awesome! :)

Congratulations yoak... here's to a long and happy life together.

*****
glad to hear the iPod worked out. im not a believer in marriage, but it's sounds like this one's a keeper. any girl who loves an iPod is alright in my book. :D


peace.

sushi
Dec 10, 2004, 11:40 AM
So a big thank you to all of you who have followed this thread and wished me luck.
I have just got a BIG YES!!!!
She couldnīt belive it, very surprised. It was a great success!!
And yes, the plastic with the "Donīt steal music" sheet covered the inscription so it took a while before she read it. Luckily she unwraped it on the spot
Then she looked very confused for a few seconds, before she said YES.
It all took place during the most fantastic sunset over a snow covered Oslo.
I took her up in to the hill/mountain over looking the Oslofjord.

:)
We are off to a resturant now to celebrate the rest of the evening :D
Congrats!

Great story. Best of luck to you two.

Sushi

DanTekGeek
Dec 10, 2004, 11:49 AM
Brilliant idea mate. Congratulations on the flawless execution and a wonderful life together.

Giaguara
Dec 10, 2004, 01:18 PM
awesome, man .. congrats :)

yoak
Dec 10, 2004, 01:20 PM
Thanks for all the replies, it has been very touching to read through it today :)
My fiance read through a lot of your post last night and she was amazed with the response. She says hello and thank you to all.
We had a great dinner last night, everything felt kind of unreal.
Yes I did take some pictures (and video) of the moment. I will try to get them out over the weekend for those who want to see.
And to the one who asked about what hill; it was not the one with the military academy (thatīs where Edward Munch painted Scream by the way, you see the Oslo fjord in the background).
It was on the one with the ski jump (Holmenkollen), just a bit higher up.
So, to everyone: it was fun (and comforting) sharing this moment whith you all.
PS Best of luck to nbs2, I wish you well

Doctor Q
Dec 10, 2004, 02:07 PM
It was on the one with the ski jump (Holmenkollen), just a bit higher up.By getting engaged at Holmenkollen, you "took the leap" a brand new way! :)

I wouldn't be brave enough to jump Holmenkollen on skis (moguls are enough liftoff for my taste) but I did walk up Holmenkollen one summer. It was the first time I'd been on a ski jump and it was pretty scary looking. Ski jumping and proposing are of course very similar: likely to produce terror ahead of time, involving an amazing amount of exhilaration, and turning out well almost every time!

We await your photos. What month will the wedding be? Indoors or outdoors? Do they ever do weddings in the Vigeland Sculpture Garden (http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/arch/769/Vigeland/)?

http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/arch/769/Vigeland/Fountain_small.jpg

munkle
Dec 11, 2004, 12:36 AM
The good news is spreading! linky (http://www.theappleblog.com/2004/12/10/man-proposes-with-ipod/) :)

maya
Dec 11, 2004, 01:38 AM
Congratulations yoak, that is very original and sweet. :)

Well wishes to your future together.

MacRy
Dec 11, 2004, 06:49 AM
Congratulations mate.

maro
Dec 11, 2004, 10:04 AM
Well done Yoak!!! You made my sister feel very special

VincentVega
Dec 11, 2004, 01:23 PM
Congratulations to you both! What a nice story.

hamishb
Dec 13, 2004, 08:35 AM
Well done!

Now here's an opportunity for the Apple Store - as a bridal registry. The happy couple could nominate their preferred gift(s) and then all of us at MacRumors could chip in via PayPal.

Steve, are you listening here!

unithom
Dec 13, 2004, 12:19 PM
My gf and I were talking about engagement / wedding rings this weekend and we both feel pretty strongly about the whole 'blood diamonds' thing. Well, what about this stuff I've been reading about in Wired magazine?

Wired article (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html)

So Florida's 'Gemesis' and Boston's 'Apollo Diamond'... sounds like a promising way to get an engagement ring that doesn't have anyone's blood on it.

A more recent story (WSJ? not sure) talked about those companies being 'forced' to put a tiny logo in their diamonds when selling them on the jewelry market.

And I'm thinking, do I care? Does she? I think she cares a lot more that nobody got killed over the diamond that got made in a machine, is more perfect, and has a tiny logo saying so.

imkalen
Dec 13, 2004, 12:20 PM
Congratulations. I did this about two moths ago too; I didn’t realize that no one had done this before. I hope your girlfriend is as happy as mine was. I would like to make one recommendation though, open the ipod take the wrapper off of it and flip the ipod over so she sees the question first thing. Also another nice touch is to put a special playlist on it and have it charged.