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Xtremehkr
Dec 8, 2004, 06:50 PM
Link (http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-uclaecon8dec08,0,158730.story?coll=la-home-business)

Economists at UCLA have invoked the B-word again.

In an outlook to be formally released today, forecasters say California and the nation are beset by a housing "bubble" that will depress construction next year, slowing the nation's economic recovery.

Yet the fallout from the bubble in California won't be devastating, according to the UCLA Anderson Forecast. Indeed, the Golden State's economy will expand at a faster clip than the nation's in 2005, thanks in part to a recovering Bay Area, the widely watched forecast says.

All in all, next year is shaping up as "solid but not spectacular" for California, said Christopher Thornberg, a UCLA Anderson Forecast senior economist and author of its state outlook.

Across California, nonfarm payroll jobs are expected to grow 1.6% next year, up from 0.8% this year, the UCLA forecast says. Personal incomes are projected to increase 5.2% next year, compared with 5.6% this year.

Although UCLA economists have raised the specter of a housing bubble in previous reports, they are now identifying it as the biggest risk to the U.S. economy. <snip...>


<...>UCLA economists pointed out that inflation-adjusted home prices have risen by more than 5% annually over the last five years, five times the usual rate. Prices nationwide are now 25% above their historical long-term average, they said.

In the eyes of the UCLA analysts, the main culprit for California's housing bubble is excessive price increases rather than overbuilding.

"People here have been buying homes as if prices are going to go up 10% every year" forever, Thornberg said. But when prices finally level off or even decline, he suggested, consumers will curb spending, and that could slow the state's economy.

It's too hard, Thornberg added, to predict just when the bubble will burst — or whether it will simply deflate slowly. "Bubbles, once they get going, tend to take a life of their own," he said.

In Southern California, particularly, housing prices continue to appreciate by at least 20% a year. Evidence is emerging, however, that prices are starting to flatten on a month-to-month basis as the supply of homes on the market grows.

The UCLA analysts foresee the number of residential building permits slipping in California to 204,800 next year from 207,000 this year.

The state's building industry trade group is forecasting a similar trend but it considers the decline marginal.

"It's a pretty bright projection for 2005," Nevin said. California builders are on pace to construct the most homes in 2004 than in any year since 1989.

Outside of California, overbuilding is viewed as the main problem by UCLA. One telling statistic: The nation has added one new residential unit for every adult added to the population over the last two years. The historical average is one unit for every 1.7 new adults.

The bottom line: Today's pace of construction can't be sustained, Leamer said. Housing starts nationwide are expected to slow to 1.8 million units next year from 1.94 million this year.


Given the less than stellar accuracy the government has had in prediction job growth over the last few years, how will this bubble affect the economy as it stands now.

The housing sector has been the bright spot in the economy for the last few years.

Any thoughts on what the outcome may be?



skunk
Dec 8, 2004, 07:06 PM
The similarity with China is remarkable.

Desertrat
Dec 8, 2004, 07:19 PM
This has been discussed in contrarian venues for a couple of years, now. What will make the big hit is if interest rates go up, and they're expected to do so.

Then, those with variable rate mortgages will get hit in the billfold. Those who are already marginal as to percentage of net income devoted to their housing may well lose their houses. If this becomes widespread it will mean a decline in prices. It's happened before, particularly back in 1985-ish, although a different cause: The Oil Patch collapsed at $12/bbl oil, and Houston jobs declined dramatically--as did real estate prices, by 30% and more.

The thing is, few people have a year's worth of house payments in savings. Also, the number of people who are more than 30 days late with a mortgage payment is at an alltime high.

It won't be everywhere, of course...

'Rat

IJ Reilly
Dec 9, 2004, 11:05 AM
California was hit with declining values in real estate on the order of 20-40%, depending mainly on location, during the 1989-92 timeframe. It was a side effect of the worst economic conditions the state had experienced since the Great Depression. The underlying cause was unemployment, but was vastly complicated by the run-up in real estate values in the previous years. In short order, lots of people found themselves looking at negative equity. Many walked away from their properties, causing a snowball effect. It was a pretty scary time to be homeowner, with foreclosures on every block, or so it seemed.

Could it happen again? Yeah, sure -- but the economic conditions in this state at least aren't remotely as bad as they were circa 1990 and are forecasted to remain reasonably strong over the next few years. Given what I've seen locally, I wouldn't be surprised to see the real estate market level off or even decline some in a few areas. But a "bursting bubble" -- that's a bit dramatic.