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xray328
Sep 3, 2010, 12:06 AM
Hi all, total Mac noob here. We loved every apple product we've played with so far (limited to ipods and playing at the apple store) and plan on getting a mac mini within the next 6 months or so to make our conversion from PC official. Anyway...

Our kids school was selling eMacs for $75 tonight so we bought one for each of our kids. I don't have them yet (supposed to pick up next week), but I as wondering what kind of things I should start upgrading them with since I assume they could probably use it. From what I understand, memory is about the only performance upgrade you can do to them, is that right? What memory do they use and how much can the support?

Can they handle leopard? Is there any advantage to using leopard?

Here's what I got from the school's handout:

Processor: Ranges from 1.0 - 1.25 GHz PPC
Memory: Ranges from 256 - 512 Mb
Hard Drive - Ranges 40 - 80 Gb
Optical Drive - DVD Read & CD Read/Write

What's the best option for wireless internet? I saw something about an Airport card, but then I also saw USB adapters that look like memory sticks?

Can these handle iTunes ok?

Off topic here, but what's the Mac version of Microsoft Office?

Thanks in advance!



Ice-Cube
Sep 3, 2010, 12:14 AM
Whao those are very old Macs. I doubt they can handle Leopard, much less the latest OS, Snow Leopard.

Judging from the specs, I see they are just good for light surfing, or writing notes and stuff.

VanneDC
Sep 3, 2010, 12:23 AM
There actually very good boxes. Will run leopard just fine and dandy if you up the ram to at least a gig.

Grab a airport extreme card ( slips in behind, just under the cd drive cover that flips open when you eject that drive) or a simple wifi USB stick will work great. ( make sure you get obe that's compatible with osx and has drivers)

Also being a CRT, it'll do different Rez much better than any LCD. For example star craft or diablo ( for the kids of course ;)

75 bucks is fine, you'll get good use out of those 2 emacs. ESP for the kids cos it won't be costly if they stuff it up ;)

Good luck.

V.
Tiger will also be fine, depending on the features you want, I'd properly stick with tiger on that box, but leopard will also run just fine.

mgartner0622
Sep 3, 2010, 12:25 AM
Whao those are very old Macs. I doubt they can handle Leopard, much less the latest OS, Snow Leopard.

Judging from the specs, I see they are just good for light surfing, or writing notes and stuff.

They will be great for doing homework and the like, word and light internet browsing.
The Minimum requirements for leopard are an 867MHz G4 (1000Mhz=1GHz) and 512MB of RAM. As long as the hard drives are not too small, I would install Leopard on the eMacs, it has a lot of features that I like that do not come with Tiger. Snow Leopard is Intel only.

My School still uses eMacs to this day as the main computers in most of the labs, however they are 1.42GHz with 512MB of ram, and OS X 10.4 Tiger.
As long as you had the ram around 768MB-1GB, I'd say it would be plenty capable of day to day activity.

There is Office:Mac 2004 (Probably the best for your PPC Machines, very cheap too)
Office:Mac '08 (Personally, I hate it, it is very slow, although it works with PPC and is $109.99 on Amazon.com)
Office Mac '11 (Coming out in the next month, Intel only)

Ideally, I would have Leopard installed with 1GB of RAM, and just Office on the hard drive and those computers should be pretty snappy!
Install an Apple Airport Extreme Card. They are anywhere from $10-$40 on ebay, and free up one of your USB ports. :)

xray328
Sep 3, 2010, 12:26 AM
Yeah, but that's all I need them for. The kids are just going to surf with them and play online games. As long as they can do that, run iTunes, and some kind of mac version of Office, they'll be fine. I was hoping they're can support 2GB of ram....but 1GB would be fine too.

mgartner0622
Sep 3, 2010, 12:28 AM
Yeah, but that's all I need them for. The kids are just going to surf with them and play online games. As long as they can do that, run iTunes, and some kind of mac version of Office, they'll be fine. I was hoping they're can support 2GB of ram....but 1GB would be fine too.

When you know the processor speed just look up the max ram and everything else you might want to know here:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/index-emac.html

If it's the 1.25Ghz, you're in luck:

Standard RAM: 256 MB Maximum RAM: 2.0 GB*
Details: *Officially, Apple supports up to 1 GB of RAM in this model, but third-parties have determined it actually supports 2 GB of RAM.

xray328
Sep 3, 2010, 12:34 AM
When you know the processor speed just look up the max ram and everything else you might want to know here:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/index-emac.html

If it's the 1.25Ghz, you're in luck:

Standard RAM: 256 MB Maximum RAM: 2.0 GB*
Details: *Officially, Apple supports up to 1 GB of RAM in this model, but third-parties have determined it actually supports 2 GB of RAM.

Nice link...I'm crossing my fingers for the 1.25Ghz...of course all they say is the processor ranges from 1.0-1.25GHz....USB 2.0 would be nice with that 1.25GHz.

Thanks everyone!

MacHamster68
Sep 3, 2010, 01:27 AM
the eMac's had been and still are great computers

here the spec for the 1ghz education model and the 1.25 ghz model both take airport express (wireless G ) and have usb 2.0 and take 2gb ram max
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/stats/emac_1.25.html

if its the earlier 1ghz consumer model (they also sold to schools )
then the spec are a bit different airport (wireless B) and usb 1.1 and can take 1gb ram max
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/emac/stats/emac_1.0.html

but all are perfect for itunes and some surfing and emailing and homework for the kids , and even can be used for photoshop and video editing with final cut (not the newest version ) and if you install leopard (10.5)on them they can sync your ipod and iphone too , but they run better(snappier) with osx panther(10.3) and tiger (10.4)
ok they dont do HD video on youtube , but i think thats not a problem at all

i love my eMac's(have 3 of them ) they are great Mac's and very underrated by people who think a computer has to play 1080p youtube videos to be useful as if youtube HD would be the sole purpose why the computer was invented :rolleyes:

xray328
Sep 3, 2010, 02:19 PM
Thanks again for all the help with this. I called to arrange for pick up and I was told I can't get them until next Thursday...:(

I did find out the have Tiger OS though. Is there an cheap "upgrade" version of Leopard out there? I would like them to be able to sync their iPods.

raysfan81
Sep 3, 2010, 02:52 PM
The eMac is one of my favorite Apple computers of all time! Just be sure to add some ram and get the G4 optimized version of Camino browser (not the normal version) it seems to work better for me at least. Also, don't bother wasting money on a tiger -> leopard upgrade disk you are better off looking around Craislist for one from $40-$70 so you can actually reinstall the OS if need be. Good luck!

bizzle
Sep 3, 2010, 04:50 PM
If it's not too late, don't buy them.

Seriously. Or at least bring a phillips screw driver and pull the RAM cover and check for any leaking/bulging capacitors.

raysfan81
Sep 3, 2010, 05:03 PM
If it's not too late, don't buy them.

Seriously. Or at least bring a phillips screw driver and pull the RAM cover and check for any leaking/bulging capacitors.

Might be a good idea to check but generally most of the cap problems have happened if the computers have been used a lot over the years, but it can't hurt.

green86
Sep 3, 2010, 05:40 PM
The eMac is one of my favorite Apple computers of all time! Just be sure to add some ram and get the G4 optimized version of Camino browser (not the normal version) it seems to work better for me at least. Also, don't bother wasting money on a tiger -> leopard upgrade disk you are better off looking around Craislist for one from $40-$70 so you can actually reinstall the OS if need be. Good luck!


Uhh... what are you talking about? There is no such thing as a OS X upgrade disc. Every version is the full version.

raysfan81
Sep 3, 2010, 05:58 PM
Uhh... what are you talking about? There is no such thing as a OS X upgrade disc. Every version is the full version.

I was thinking of the drop in disks they included with macs preloaded with tiger that were Leopard upgrade disks.

MacHamster68
Sep 3, 2010, 05:58 PM
Uhh... what are you talking about? There is no such thing as a OS X upgrade disc. Every version is the full version.

not true there had been panther and tiger upgrade discs where you need a previous version of osx before you can use them
http://www.thebookyard.com/product.php?manufacturers_id=31&products_id=436

and here is the tiger one
http://www.thebookyard.com/product.php?manufacturers_id=31&products_id=432

raysfan81
Sep 3, 2010, 06:00 PM
not true , i have a panther upgrade discs for my iMac g3 , and i need to install jaguar first before i can use them and they are clearly marked as upgrade

I knew it! :D

green86
Sep 3, 2010, 06:12 PM
not true there had been panther and tiger upgrade discs
http://www.thebookyard.com/product.php?manufacturers_id=31&products_id=436

and here is the tiger one
http://www.thebookyard.com/product.php?manufacturers_id=31&products_id=432

It should contain the full version of Tiger.

MacHamster68
Sep 3, 2010, 06:18 PM
i only know about my panther disc it will not install if i do not install jaguar first its even asking for it

but i can reinstall with it and disc repair and the like, but on a empty drive its just asking for jaguar

MacHamster68
Sep 3, 2010, 06:26 PM
so careful if you buy at ebay as some just list like
" tiger install disc "
with a small picture (so you cant read the little word upgrade disc as they look identical )
original tiger disc

no returns accepted
(no wrong description there as you can install but only if you got a previous version of osx already installed )

and then you can look where you get the panther disc from first

so always buy listed as RETAIL DISCS (because the no returns is useless ,because wrong listing if someone tries it with a wrong description )

11colmil
Sep 3, 2010, 10:04 PM
I had an eMac for years. It was a great machine until it wouldn't boot and I went Intel. The best thing you can do for it is to put Tiger on it. (OS X 10.4) For wifi, pick up an Airlink wireless mini usb. They are very cheap (like 12-15 bucks)and so small that it barely sticks out. For microsoft office, I would recommend Office:Mac 2004 or 2008. Don't bother with the new one coming out, 2008 is still a bit slow.

xray328
Sep 4, 2010, 12:28 AM
Thanks again everyone for all the input.

Can anyone confirm that I do in fact need Leopard to sync the iPods?

If it wasn't for that I would just keep Tiger.

Thanks again!

11colmil
Sep 4, 2010, 01:36 AM
Depending on the iPod, yes. When i had my eMac running with Tiger, I had iTunes 9 when it first came out. I was able to sync an iPod Touch with OS 3.0.

This thread made me want to get my eMac working again and I Finally got it working with Jaguar (10.2) :D Hows that for classic OS X.

11colmil
Sep 4, 2010, 01:50 AM
OOPS! I lied. It won't boot. :mad:

xray328
Sep 4, 2010, 07:14 AM
For wifi, pick up an Airlink wireless mini usb. They are very cheap (like 12-15 bucks)and so small that it barely sticks out.


Wow, these are cheap. Just wondering why I guess...

raysfan81
Sep 4, 2010, 09:06 AM
Wow, these are cheap. Just wondering why I guess...

You are wondering why they are cheap?

xray328
Sep 4, 2010, 02:52 PM
Yeah. Maybe I'm missing something? :confused: Ebay had them for $10. I'm used to seeing wireless cards in the $30-$40 range.

thebez
Sep 4, 2010, 04:27 PM
Yeah. Maybe I'm missing something? :confused: Ebay had them for $10. I'm used to seeing wireless cards in the $30-$40 range.

Well, they don't have an :apple: on them, so they can be had much cheaper.

xray328
Sep 4, 2010, 06:32 PM
Well, they don't have an :apple: on them, so they can be had much cheaper.

:D

May be a stupid question, but why do I want a "mini" usb? Is the "mini" referring to the wireless adapter (since its so small) or the USB as in one of those half size USB deals? The picture looks like a standard USB.

green86
Sep 4, 2010, 06:44 PM
:D

May be a stupid question, but why do I want a "mini" usb? Is the "mini" referring to the wireless adapter (since its so small) or the USB as in one of those half size USB deals? The picture looks like a standard USB.

I supposed you'd want mini so it sticks out less and is less unsightly. Mini refers to the size; it is standard USB.

xray328
Sep 4, 2010, 06:53 PM
I supposed you'd want mini so it sticks out less and is less unsightly. Mini refers to the size; it is standard USB.


Thanks for the clarification. :)

11colmil
Sep 4, 2010, 07:00 PM
I have no clue why they're so cheap. I own 2 of them. They work great. I have one on an older G4 iMac and one, sadly, on a pc. Its good on both of them.

raysfan81
Sep 5, 2010, 12:47 PM
I have no clue why they're so cheap. I own 2 of them. They work great. I have one on an older G4 iMac and one, sadly, on a pc. Its good on both of them.

I'm guessing they are so cheap because they are made overseas which makes the prices lower. :eek:

11colmil
Sep 5, 2010, 11:49 PM
I'm guessing they are so cheap because they are made overseas which makes the prices lower. :eek:

What are you talking about? Everything is made overseas. Including in almost all of Apple. Its only designed in the US.

raysfan81
Sep 7, 2010, 05:53 PM
What are you talking about? Everything is made overseas. Including in almost all of Apple. Its only designed in the US.

Uh yes but Apple is a brand name. Many inexpensive things from eBay are generic no-name products so they are sold for much less.

MacHamster68
Sep 7, 2010, 07:31 PM
and you find often the same internal electronic because they come from the same factory .without the brand name for 70%less :D
and amazingly they still make profit because they make the profit through numbers and only sell through online stores :D
Apple could do the same but then they might not be able to pay their managers millions per year and you would not see Apple stores
which cost a huge amount of money and we might still only get osx tiger and the Top apple Mac would still be the iMac g4
...which would actually be not that bad at all :)

raysfan81
Sep 8, 2010, 02:55 PM
I love buying generic products because generally they are the same but cost so much less.:D

hcm
Sep 10, 2010, 09:13 AM
Hi people,

I'd love to here several people's opinions about what wireless adapter I should get for my eMac (I bought this refurbished computer, which has Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard PowerPC G4, 1.42 GHz, Single Core,512 MB, and 80 GB hard drive).
I'm told it can probably use an Airport Express card #A1026, but someone said to go with usb wifi.
Would you agree?
But what about the antenna? Since it supposedly needs to be used with the Airport Extreme card, will I have to use an antenna with a usb wifi? (like, one directly on the usb stick)?

I'm looking to order one today....please help me! Thank you so much.

xray328
Sep 10, 2010, 11:32 AM
I bought a linksys usb yesterday...not supported for mac, but I found a driver online to make it work and its great...$14.99 at tigerdirect.

hcm
Sep 10, 2010, 11:55 AM
Great! But, it this with an eMAC or just another mac computer?

xray328
Sep 10, 2010, 03:29 PM
Exactly same as yours except on Tiger with 256mb.

I just downloaded what I though was a driver, but it was an entire wireless utility program. It automatically recognized the usb adapter and I was online in 30 seconds.

I can send you a link and the adapter info if you want...

It was a Linksys WUSB111...driver info to follow....


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5684907&CatId=35

xray328
Sep 10, 2010, 10:51 PM
Here the driver:

http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=3

It's the first "USB"driver on the list.