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WilliamG
Sep 6, 2010, 02:49 AM
I've tried SO many cases, including my newly-arrived Chinao case, and despite some of these trying SO hard to be the Apple case, none of them make it as easy to hit the home button, or the volume controls etc etc, or have the stability when in landscape tilted mode etc, or fit quite "right," or protect ALL corners of the iPad, or not weigh a ton.

The Apple case is far from perfect and needs cleaning every two seconds, but boy is it the best when it comes to simple scratch protection, size, weight, and all with full coverage, too!

Come on, manufacturers!



Darth Maniac
Sep 6, 2010, 03:49 AM
I dunno - the Chinao is pretty much identical as far as I can see. It would be nice if Apple would do a real leather one though.

WilliamG
Sep 6, 2010, 04:20 AM
The Chinao is OK but the flap isn't very secure when tucked behind the iPad for typing on.

Seamaster
Sep 6, 2010, 05:05 AM
Why has nobody made a case with the functionality, form AND build quality of Apple's?

Why does no one ever use the Search function?

It's been discussed to death, son.

Sun Baked
Sep 6, 2010, 05:07 AM
Why does no one ever use the Search function?

It's been discussed to death, son.

Because their question is always soo different from the others that a search will bring up.

You see, they are putting the comma in another location, which completely changes the question. ;)

Darth Maniac
Sep 6, 2010, 05:19 AM
The Chinao is OK but the flap isn't very secure when tucked behind the iPad for typing on.

Never had an issue with that - my main problem with the Chinao is that the main selling point of the case was that it was leather and didnt get as dusty as the Apple case. But the inside is a felt like material - including the bit that holds the iPad in place. While the felt feels nice it attracts dust around the edges of the iPad almost as bad as the official case.

mcdj
Sep 6, 2010, 06:40 AM
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The yoobao slim leather case beats the apple case in almost every way IMO.

stringbeanie
Sep 6, 2010, 02:03 PM
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The yoobao slim leather case beats the apple case in almost every way IMO.

Agree!

WilliamG
Sep 6, 2010, 03:15 PM
Agree!

Except it doesn't offer full-body protection. All the sides are exposed which, to me, is idiotic.

henrikrox
Sep 6, 2010, 03:19 PM
So...

you have tried several cases that are not as good as the apple case, so why just dont get the apple case, and clean it once a while.

you cant say the case offers any protection, besides scratching, its so flimsy, noreve ftw, costs alot, but its not bulky and very nice quality

tallyho
Sep 7, 2010, 02:50 AM
Except it doesn't offer full-body protection. All the sides are exposed which, to me, is idiotic.

Yes. Totally agree. I don't want the corners and/or edges of the iPad getting scratched up.

I'm looking for a leather case which protects all edges and corners but has cutouts for the dock connector, speaker etc. It also should have the same folding design as the Apple case, and should be thick enough to add some protection to the iPad.

How hard can it be for a manufacturer to produce this? :confused:

The Vaja Agenda 2 comes close (albeit very expensive and with a long wait time) but even this exposes the entire bottom edge of the iPad...why?

GermanSuplex
Sep 7, 2010, 07:57 AM
I bought one of those hard candy shells... it offers great protection but needing to totally remove the front protector and attach it to the body is cumbersome. It adds a lot of bulk to the iPad and the white/frost colored plastics has turned a tint of yellow.

I spent lots of time reading reviews of other cases and looking at their form factor, and eventually just decided to get the Apple case. I'm glad I did, it's perfect for what I want out of a case. Simple protection, looks nice, screen is covered when not in use, and it adds very little bulk, and it fits well.

I would like to see other manufacturers come out with cases that add a bit more functionality.. something with equal protection but is dockable with a place for a stylus. Probably asking for a lot, but hey, why not?

pdawg
Sep 7, 2010, 09:07 AM
Yes. Totally agree. I don't want the corners and/or edges of the iPad getting scratched up.

I'm looking for a leather case which protects all edges and corners but has cutouts for the dock connector, speaker etc. It also should have the same folding design as the Apple case, and should be thick enough to add some protection to the iPad.

How hard can it be for a manufacturer to produce this? :confused:

The Vaja Agenda 2 comes close (albeit very expensive and with a long wait time) but even this exposes the entire bottom edge of the iPad...why?

I have to say that I agree with you. Maybe Apple is working on the leather version of their current case? That would be tempting!

Currently I have my iPad in a Belkin clear case, to protect the edges and back, and pop it into my Tom Bihn messenger bag when taking it places. I had hopes for a couple of the cases mentioned in countless threads but can't get over the edge protection issue.

mechanopony
Sep 8, 2010, 05:10 PM
I have to say that I agree with you. Maybe Apple is working on the leather version of their current case? That would be tempting!

haha, they may be leaving that up to the high end designers though -- LV, Gucci, D&B, Coach, Chanel, they're definitely hitting the leather cases, but so far I haven't seen them being functional so much as just a sleeve or carrying bag.

sandydlc
Sep 9, 2010, 12:13 AM
I have a version of this case and i love it:

http://feltu.com/2565/iPadBlackStripedFrontFauxLeatherCoverandPolycarbonateCaseBackingDesignedwithSupportStandbyFelTu/

It's supposedly not leather but feels like it. My husband liked it so much he ordered one for himself. It has a much better typing angle than the Apple case. The same angle works for viewing movies.

Even though they're in Hong Kong, shipping is fast and the seller is very communicative.

Sandy

dowbrandon
Sep 9, 2010, 01:22 PM
Have you guys heard of the clamcase? This thing is amazing. I'm going to buy one soon.

http://www.ipadhacks.com/general/clamcase-all-in-one-keyboard-case-stand/

Nhwhazup
Sep 12, 2010, 07:24 PM
I've tried SO many cases, including my newly-arrived Chinao case, and despite some of these trying SO hard to be the Apple case, none of them make it as easy to hit the home button, or the volume controls etc etc, or have the stability when in landscape tilted mode etc, or fit quite "right," or protect ALL corners of the iPad, or not weigh a ton.

The Apple case is far from perfect and needs cleaning every two seconds, but boy is it the best when it comes to simple scratch protection, size, weight, and all with full coverage, too!

Come on, manufacturers!

I totally agree with you. I love the functionality of the Apple iPad case. Everything about it is perfect except for the material picking up all the smudges. I didn't even mind the constant cleaning until more recently the case has gotten worn in and doesn't come completely clean looking anymore.

So I moved on to the Yoobao case as it was most similar but in leather. The wide bezel interfered with typing but I could put with that except for the leather puffed up in the middle on both covers after using it only three days. It looks like crap now so I'm sending it back. The leather was pretty cheesy looking as well. Next I'm going to try the SGP vintage leather case. Hopefully that will be a keeper.

I would really like a quality leather case with the same functionality as the Apple case.

redman042
Sep 13, 2010, 01:47 AM
Does the Apple case break in so that it props up in landscape viewing mode in a more stable way? Or does it always stay wobbly?

Nhwhazup
Sep 13, 2010, 03:41 AM
Does the Apple case break in so that it props up in landscape viewing mode in a more stable way? Or does it always stay wobbly?

I haven't seen any change to the Apple case breaking in other than smudge discoloration that won't come clean. The stand up mode is still the same. For me I have never used the stand up mode. Even when I use the iPad as a viewer I usually have it propped in the typing mode on my lap.

bcaslis
Sep 13, 2010, 12:53 PM
Does the Apple case break in so that it props up in landscape viewing mode in a more stable way? Or does it always stay wobbly?

I bought my case in April. It's mostly stable now on a hard surface but still too wobbly for a softer surface (like a bed).

Kobra
Sep 13, 2010, 01:45 PM
Have any one tried to apply a "water proof" of the type you use on suede shoes? It should (in theory) protect the Apple case from picking up dirt...

peapody
Sep 13, 2010, 07:53 PM
Not a big fan of the way the apple case is constructed myself. I like the yoobao ones better. The way the two sides are just sewn together doesn't seem very edgy in design.

Nhwhazup
Sep 15, 2010, 05:30 PM
Have any of you tried the Cyber Acoustics case? I know there is another thread regarding this case but I thought I'd ask. I did place an order for one as I really like the silicone plastic cradle to hold the iPad and it does appear to have all the other features of the Apple case including some extra. It is also in leather and appears from the video reviews and comments that it has nice quality build. I'll write a quick review once I receive it. Hopefully tomorrow.

Nhwhazup
Sep 17, 2010, 10:46 PM
I do believe I've found my iPad case! After purchasing and trying a number of cases, I found a case that totally fits all of my needs and then some. I originally had the Apple case and had no problems with it except for the material and constant cleaning. It was light, fit like a glove and just worked! Then after about 4 months it became worn enough where even all the cleaning would not make it look nice again. So I was off on a hunt for THE case.

Love about the case:

Leather - right out of the bag I like the look of the case. The leather is fine and smooth like you would expect to see on a pair of new dress gloves. I've seen a post of another that felt the leather was cheap and inferior. I totally disagree. If you are looking for a textured pebbly leather this is not it. This is a smooth and fine porous leather. Very good quality and perfect material for a portfolio type case with black non-obtrusive stitching.

No in your face branding to take away from a clean look. There is no writing or embossing with the brand. I just double checked again to see if there was any branding and unless it's under the iPad I don't see anything anywhere.

Cradle that holds the iPad is unique and just awesome - it is a rubbery plastic that kind of clips at the four corners. It has some stretch so that you don't feel you're going to have to break something to force the iPad in. And before I received this case I was concerned that the corner clips might cause the screen protector to bubble or peel but this didn't happen - screen protector has stayed put. The cradle offers a very secure hold that appears like it will hold
up for years to come and it is really easy and quick to put the iPad in or take it out.

Typing mode - I use my iPad 90% of the time in landscape mode at the typing slant. The front cover fits in nice to the back slat and pretty well stays put without much if any slippage. The angle is great for typing and overall viewing.

Extras - things I could have done without but now that I have them I do use them. The elastic bands that can hold the iPad open or closed just work for what they are intended to and if you don't choose to use them, they are out of sight when the case is closed. The hand band is a nice feature for additional security if you walk around using the iPad on the fly.

Love that Cyber Acoustics gives this product a full year warranty.

Likes - I actually like the inside material which is a coarse black felt type jersey material. It is soft and looks like it will hold up very well. It could tend to catch some hair or dust but appears easy to wipe or brush off with a microfiber cloth. Cause I like this but don't love it, if I could choose the inside material, I would use a nice faux micro suede.

Can you tell I really really love this case! For those of you like me that want a case with functionality like the Apple case but even better - this is the case. There is nothing that needs to be added. The designers certainly did their homework to come up with such a great case. I can happily say I'm done case shopping.

Habakuk
Sep 18, 2010, 04:43 AM
I have the Apple Case since one month now and it doesn't look weared out at all. And—in opposite to leather, what wears out soon and doesn't look shiny new very long—you CAN clean it. If it's really dirty put it under running water, swipe it with a soft brush and dry it carefully once a month! Perfect clean like new. Try that with leather! Get one drop of coffee, red wine or oil on leather…

I don't like those plastic clamps. The Apple Case is soft overall. No magnets, no zips (beware of that crap!), no buttons, no clamps, no hard plastic, no "hard seams", no fasteners, no loose parts. You can put it even in tight and overfilled bags and nothing will press hard parts (hidden magnets!) against the iPad.

Very compact and SECURE! You can hold and turn the device in ANY way and it will never slip out. Most important! It has a very good grip when you hold it. I love to touch the material. The upright landscape stand is perfect stable when you put a paperweight in the opening. The typing angle is perfect and I am typing a lot (blind with ten fingers).

All connectors and buttons are very well protected but accessible. All sides and corners are covered, important too. There is a very efficient bezel around the touchscreen. It looks professional and discreet. Best value for size, weight, protection and functionality.

Nhwhazup
Sep 18, 2010, 07:38 AM
I have the Apple Case since one month now and it doesn't look weared out at all. And—in opposite to leather, what wears out soon and doesn't look shiny new very long—you CAN clean it. If it's really dirty put it under running water, swipe it with a soft brush and dry it carefully once a month! Perfect clean like new. Try that with leather! Get one drop of coffee, red wine or oil on leather…

I don't like those plastic clamps. The Apple Case is soft overall. No magnets, no zips (beware of that crap!), no buttons, no clamps, no hard plastic, no "hard seams", no fasteners, no loose parts. You can put it even in tight and overfilled bags and nothing will press hard parts (hidden magnets!) against the iPad.

Very compact and SECURE! You can hold and turn the device in ANY way and it will never slip out. Most important! It has a very good grip when you hold it. I love to touch the material. The upright landscape stand is perfect stable when you put a paperweight in the opening. The typing angle is perfect and I am typing a lot (blind with ten fingers).

All connectors and buttons are very well protected but accessible. All sides and corners are covered, important too. There is a very efficient bezel around the touchscreen. It looks professional and discreet. Best value for size, weight, protection and functionality.

Habakuk,

This thread originally asked the question for those that do like the Apple case but are looking for something with the same functionality but more and different. As you can see viewing the threads in this forum, there are a lot of posters looking for something other than the Apple case. Everyone has their own opinion and what one person doesn't like may appeal to someone else. I truly loved my Apple case which I've had from the first week the iPad came out in the US. I even could put up with the smudges and cleaning once a week up until now where it wouldn't come clean anymore. Maybe I cleaned it too often and that's why it became worn to the point of not coming clean. Believe me, I tried everything including hard washing in the sink but some areas would come good as new and others would still have smudges. And my case really went from at home to the office and was not in contact with anything really dirty or any chemicals - just the regular use. So I have had the Apple case for around 3 months before it become unable to be fully cleaned.

I disagree with your comments on leather. I have leather coats, purses that last for many years with no staining. I have a leather padfolio for work (in use 21 years) and another leather notebook (10 years in use) that still look like new. With all my leather - I spray them with a leather guard protector when I first get them and away I go. Once in a great while maybe annually or if I have a spill I'll clean. We have two leather recliners and a leather ottoman that we use constantly in our living room and even with a dog and two baby grandkids they still look great. Now these have seen spills for sure but have been cleanable with leather cleaner.

I also am not a big fan of the plastic clips but the clips on this case are a material more rubberized which makes them easier to get on and off and the design makes this totally secure. Due to the design of the clips and cradle if you try to shake the iPad out of the clips, it actually grips tighter. I have zero concerns that this will securely hold the iPad securely in a fall.

My review of the Cyber Acoustic case was not to criticize the Apple case, far from it. I loved everything about the Apple case except for the cleaning issue. I just wanted an Apple like case that looked nice all the time and not just 2 minutes after I washed it and before I laid my first finger print on it. But after my Apple case was not coming clean anymore after only 3 months, I couldn't see buying the same case again. I truly hope your case continues to come clean for you longer than mine did.

With this new Cyber Acoustics case I have all the same functionality of the Apple case and won't have to spend time weekly on the cleaning. This one is truly an option for WilliamG that started the thread and others like him that are looking for a case with the same functionality as the Apple but in leather. My husband likes the idea that this case doesn't scream out Apple or anything else with a logo on the front. He said it just looks like a small paper pad holder and you wouldn't even know an iPad was in there.

Nhwhazup
Sep 18, 2010, 09:00 AM
I just went on the CA website to write a review on my black case and see that they've added a red one. I love the black one so much that I also ordered one in red. Seriously these are some awesome cases!!

WilliamG
Sep 18, 2010, 05:17 PM
I'm sorry but the CA case does not have the same functionality of the Apple care. All the sides are exposed. What's the point? This is one of the things that's REALLY important - no exposed edges!

Nhwhazup
Sep 18, 2010, 06:35 PM
I'm sorry but the CA case does not have the same functionality of the Apple care. All the sides are exposed. What's the point? This is one of the things that's REALLY important - no exposed edges!

Okay, why the importance of the edges being covered? Do you use your iPad in a dusty area? Or are you looking for some other type of protection? If concerned about a drop the CA case has some nice protection with the rubberized cradle with very substantial protection at the corners. Also when the front cover is closed it extends beyond the iPad a bit all the way around and would definitely give impact protection if dropped on a flat service. Now if I did have a heavy drop on something pointed or sharp, nothing would really protect it.

Good luck with your search. I did order an imported case (that I haven't received yet) before I received my CA case. According to the photos it is the exact replica of the Apple case but in a high quality faux leather material. I'll let you know how that one is once I receive it. Might even offer it up for the cost of shipping to whoever wants it due to my lovefest with the CA. It won't be worth sending it back to the supplier as the shipping cost was almost as much as the actual price. I'll keep you updated williamg.

tallyho
Sep 19, 2010, 02:32 AM
I'm sorry but the CA case does not have the same functionality of the Apple care. All the sides are exposed. What's the point? This is one of the things that's REALLY important - no exposed edges!
Yes! Seems obvious to me, but I suppose other people have different needs?

Okay, why the importance of the edges being covered? Do you use your iPad in a dusty area? Or are you looking for some other type of protection?

It's more about scratch protection from things which could scratch or ding the metal edges. I wouldn't purposefully have keys or coins in the bag I was using to carry my iPad but accidents happen and it seems bizarre that so many cases don't cover the edges. The Piel Frama cases do, but apparently there are several issues with them from sagging typing angle to oily residues. The Chinao case does but is not available in the UK and is not leather anyway. The title of this thread continues to be relevant!

Nhwhazup
Sep 19, 2010, 05:37 AM
It's really funny how what's important to some isn't even on the radar screen for others. Different strokes for different folks. I'm pretty darn anal about keeping things clean and like new. Ask my kids and they will go on and on.

Anyway, full coverage of the edges hadn't even entered my mind for a must have. Now that you brought it up I checked both my work and personal laptops to see how those edges are holding up. One has the brushed metal and the other is plastic and I throw them in my work bag always with no case or protection. Both are perfect! Both of my work bags that hold just about everything have separate pockets so that's maybe why they haven't seen any scratches.

I carry my iPad either in hand or when in a bag or briefcase it has it's own pocket. So for me full edge protection is a non-issue.

All that said you would think that with all that's been written on these threads a supplier would take note of the wants of the customers. I know Yoobao seems to keep trying and with all the different versions almost has something for everyone.

The Apple case replica that I ordered in faux leather is now sold out so perhaps it will be pretty good. The price was very cheap so I was skeptical. I figured with all the cases I have tried I might as well order that one as well. I ordered this replica case before I received the CA case and will let everyone know how it is once I receive it. A case like the Apple in leather I would think would be difficult to perfect. The Apple case has that nice tight fit and I would imagine that leather would tend to stretch a bit after putting it in and out numerous times. Loose material around the bezel would be a problem.

Habakuk
Sep 19, 2010, 06:16 AM
I disagree with your comments on leather. I have leather coats, purses that last for many years with no staining. I have a leather padfolio for work (in use 21 years) and another leather notebook (10 years in use) that still look like new.

I have nothing against leather where it's practical. All my shoes are leather (with strong chemical protection of course), I love the black seats in my classic CitroŽns or my furniture (very thick and strong leather). It looks and feels good but anyway you have to undertake quite some regulary efforts for conservation because it's a "living material". And here it even doesn't disturb when there is a bit of abrasion visible.

But for me it's absolute unpractical for things like purses, cases, gloves or other clothing that are exposed to heavy usage and dirt. And you never can clean leather completely hygienic (think about leather trousers, urgh…) because it simply doesn't like water or other moistness. Looks good and shiny on product photos or in the shops—but when I have the first coffee drop on it I'll go mad especially for the price of it.

It's too delicate for those things. I don't like the idea having to clean each place first where I put my iPad onto.

And yes it's one of the main features and functions of cases to cover all parts of the device when it's closed. Much more important than the look or the material in my honest opinion.

Nhwhazup
Sep 19, 2010, 07:00 AM
Well let's say I'll agree to disagree regarding leather for the iPad case. Different stokes for different folks. For me, all my purses, shoes, briefcases and dress gloves are leather. I have no problem keeping them clean and stain free. I've had some nubuck type leather that is impossible to keep clean and stay away from it. That said, this CA leather is tanned like my Franklin Covey and that even rolled off coffee drips.

Also, for me the iPad case is more for handling and use and some protection I.e. stand for typing mode. Maybe I'm just pretty easy on my things. As I mentioned before I drag my work laptop in and out of my briefcase daily with no case and the edges are perfect - no scratches.

So with your needs, what is the case that you like and prefer? As I've mentioned before, I was perfectly happy with the Apple case and could put up with the constant cleaning until after 3 months even with vigorous scrubbing in the sink it wouldn't come completely clean.

Nhwhazup
Sep 19, 2010, 07:04 AM
I realize that you have the Apple case and I truly hope it continues to meet your needs for a long time. For me, it would come clean all the time with some scrubbing except for just recently. Perhaps I cleaned it too much.

Habakuk
Sep 19, 2010, 08:48 AM
I realize that you have the Apple case and I truly hope it continues to meet your needs for a long time. For me, it would come clean all the time with some scrubbing except for just recently. Perhaps I cleaned it too much.

The "daily fingerprints" are gone with a simple dry or moistened cotton cloth in ten seconds. How to remove "fat dirt" (if that happens and it will happen) I described above.

Another example for inappropriate use of leather (sorry for off-topic): Last week I met my attorney in his shiny new office. He has bought an incredible expensive conference table with partly leather intarsia on the surface. Looks really great and stylish and modern and smells like leather—but never, never ever make use of it!

It needed exactly 20 minutes and he bowled over his little glass with finest Spanish tomato juice. Most of it was saved on the tray but some splatters were attracted like magnets by the leather parts of the table. Two cleaning ladies worked about 40 minutes with strong chemical essences to get rid of the smudge spots and you can still see it now and for all times.

Other than that he's a good lawyer. :)

Nhwhazup
Sep 19, 2010, 09:55 AM
That would have killed me to have a new piece of furniture damaged so quickly. I guess the leather that I have that doesn't stain has a different sort of tanning or protectant. My SUV has light beige leather seats and just about everything but wine has been spilled with no staining. The car is 5 years old. I have it professionally cleaned once a year after our tough NH winters which come with nasty road grime and salt from the snow and ice. The seats have had coffee, cola and fruit juice to name a few spilled on them. All have wiped up with no penetration into the leather or staining. Now the spillage onto the carpet was another story - out came the carpet washer machine. The leather ottoman coffee table that I previously mentioned is a much softer leather and appears to be more porous and would be susceptible to staining must again have some good factory protectant. The grandkids have spilled juice and formula on it with absolutely no staining or discoloration. This is also 5 years old and still looks like new. I wipe up spills when they happen and that's about it - no other cleaning or fussing with it.

With the Apple case I thought that really maybe I was missing something so I tried your method with a brush and cleaning product and even that didn't work. 75% of the case looks great except for some areas where the smudges won't come off. Well the Apple case is put away and I'll just enjoy my new CA case and look forward to my new one that's coming in red. My search is over!

Ashka
Sep 19, 2010, 03:21 PM
The 'Apple Case' in different colours. I do not know anything about the material used.
http://www.gumdropcases.com/surf-convertible-ipad-case.html

Nhwhazup
Sep 19, 2010, 03:36 PM
The 'Apple Case' in different colours. I do not know anything about the material used.
http://www.gumdropcases.com/surf-convertible-ipad-case.html

Do you have one? They look really cool but I'm concerned if it has the inner flap to hold the iPad securely in place. The photo down in the middle of the page in the upright mode appears to show the bottom of the iPad. If so then it probably doesn't have a flap. Let me know if you do decide to get one and how it works.

Man I gotta stay off this forum. I think I've purchased like 6 or 7 cases that were recommended by this forum. The ones that didn't work for me I have been quick to return but still pay the return shipping.

Seamaster
Sep 19, 2010, 03:45 PM
The 'Apple Case' in different colours. I do not know anything about the material used.
http://www.gumdropcases.com/surf-convertible-ipad-case.html

"Soft faux-suede exterior" ó no deal.