"Overtime oversupply" - husband of Apple employee protests...

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[joker2]

Seems to be a subscription service. Quote, anyone?

[wordmunger]

It's just a short little snippet:

Overtime oversupply: Anybody working at Apple Computer's campus in Cupertino recently on the weekend got a fringe benefit they weren't expecting in the form of an impromptu protest staged by an employee's spouse.

The husband, Michael Gough, dropped by to demonstrate his frustration about the overtime hours he said his wife was required to work at Apple. He drove a small car around Apple with a sign reading: ``KAPAO: Kids and Pets Against Overtime.''

``I was driving around with two teenage boys and a dog,'' Gough said, ``and we had a loudspeaker on the car and our basic message was, `We are kids and pets against overtime, and we're here to shout out a message of solidarity to all of you hardworking people at Apple Computer who are working long hours on the weekend during the holiday season.' ''

Gough declined to name his wife. He said a security guard stopped his car, but a small crowd of employees nearby was cheering.

Hmmm... Maybe the MR crowd might want to reconsider the idea that working at Apple would be the ideal job.

[iJon]

I've really never read the best things about working for Apple Corporate. The people I know who work for Apple say they would never want to work under Jobs or at Apple Corporate. I never ask them why though, but I'm sure one can realize why.

jon

[Poff]

It's just a short little snippet:



Hmmm... Maybe the MR crowd might want to reconsider the idea that working at Apple would be the ideal job.

true true..

[munkle]

Now I know why Steve ends his keynotes thanking the family members of Apple workers - to stave off incidents like this! :p

[nagromme]

Lots of places have overtime. Some paid, some not. It's one of the factors that makes a job worth the money or not worth it. And in the end, a great many jobs are really not much fun. Only worth it because you NEED the money to live. Where does this woman's job fall in that spectrum? Only she can say.

As for her husband protesting... it sounds on the surface a little too "a woman's place is in the home" for me.

The whole story is between Apple, the couple, and their divorce attorney :)

[sord]

His sign should have said "I'm a man who is too lazy to get a job so my wife has one and overtime is infringing on my right to tell my woman to get in bed for a fun time"

[cc bcc]

And suddenly you're 65..

[Jaffa Cake]

Gough declined to name his wife.

I'm sure she'll prove difficult to track down. There must have been a lot of Mrs Goughs working at Apple that weekend.

[GrannySmith_G5]

Funny thing is, she wasn't even working weekends. She was shacking up with the janitor Larry.

[mixylplik3]

...and on the flip-side of the platform coin--

I have talked to 3 different people in my lifetime that worked in some capacity for a certain company in Redmond, WA. In all 3 cases, they said M$ was a phenomenal company to work for.

YMMV, but that is what I've heard from people I've known personally.

[x86isslow]

His sign should have said "I'm a man who is too lazy to get a job so my wife has one and overtime is infringing on my right to tell my woman to get in bed for a fun time"


where does it say that he's unemployed? that he's too lazy to get a job? :confused:

why would he drive around his kids and dog if all he wanted was some play? :rolleyes:

[macnulty]

Anybody out there self employed? Who among you get paid overtime?
Not a complaint but who promised paradise.

[macridah]

That protester is a big baby. He must have complex goes she makes more money, salary plus stock options.

apple workers and users are probably the same: passion about apple.

[AmigoMac]

I can smell a big problem at home because she does love the company and the work and never told the man to go there and offer that spectacle... of course, she never planned that and for sure knew about that on the news at night in the middle of the pause, ohh! how embarrassing... those are the kind of things one should solve at home, she must feel stupid at work and sad at home, of course she has a family and needs time with them but if the man cannot understand the work time and "think different" about the responsibility of his wife... then there is a big f**ng problem...
communication is the first factor to get rid of problems...

[Stella]

That protester is a big baby. He must have complex goes she makes more money, salary plus stock options.

apple workers and users are probably the same: passion about apple.

A lot of companies treat employees as expendable resources. If you don't like it, you can work else where. Another person will be happy to work here.

People are entitled to a life outside their work. Some companies are good about this, others just take the piss.

Your comments are just retarded by the way.

[shamino]

I've really never read the best things about working for Apple Corporate. The people I know who work for Apple say they would never want to work under Jobs or at Apple Corporate. I never ask them why though, but I'm sure one can realize why.
Read any history book about Apple. The entire company is a cult of personality. The staff are fanatically devoted to Steve and the product line. The hiring process seeks out people who will have this particular work ethic.

Massive amounts of overtime are common. Sometimes because the employees love their work that much, and sometimes because it's required.

[shamino]

His sign should have said "I'm a man who is too lazy to get a job so my wife has one and overtime is infringing on my right to tell my woman to get in bed for a fun time"
RTFA. This protest was on a weekend afternoon.

Do you think you have to work 7 days a week to not be an unemployed bum?

[Mr. Anderson]

His sign should have said "I'm a man who is too lazy to get a job so my wife has one and overtime is infringing on my right to tell my woman to get in bed for a fun time"

You're assuming he doesn't work....

I currently had an adjustment at home, my wife got a really good job and we moved - now I'm a stay at home dad (my kid just turned 1) and I do freelance out of the house. Its working out nicely and I have to say, getting a chance to spend more time with my son is something you can't put a value on.

I think its damn funny this guy was protesting - and I'm sure his wife doesn't want to work the overtime. Basically you have to determine what's important in your life and deal with those decisions. If you don't like it, make a change....

D

[killmoms]

You people are ridiculous. Never have I seen more outrageous reading between the lines or post-women's lib lunacy. Maybe he's a stay-at-home Dad who'd like to see his wife more often. Maybe he works from home, like Mr. Anderson. If it was the other way around, as it was recently for the wife of a MASSIVELY overworked EA employee, would you be cheering for their "protest?" Or is it just because it's Apple? These employees don't deserve a life outside the company, because it's one we love? ********. Assuming he's some chauvinistic jackass is so far beyond ludicrous that it's not funny. For Pete's sake, his protest was mostly tongue-in-cheek anyway. Grow up.

[sjk]

I wonder what her reaction was...

[Vonnie]

People, you forget, it was in the weekend. Why do you think he is unemployed, because he doesn't work in the weekend? Do you all work every day with no time off?

Seriously, I can imagine his wife being a bit pissed that she had to get up at 7am on a saturday to go to work. I can imagine she regretting missing family time with her husband and kids. What her husband did, was just a little moral booster to get through the day. A nice interruption from work, seeing your family, having a bit of fun. Heck, apparently it was a moral booster for other employees too, as they were cheering him on.

Sometimes, I can't understand this whole "apple can't do anything wrong, and everyone that evens hints of apple making a mistake, is the devil". Yes, I can imagine that Apple needs to go into overdrive, when an Apple event is rapidly approaching. I understand completely, that everyone has to put in some extra time. Steve and the other managers were probably there too in the weekend. However understandable it is, it still sucks for the employees. Even if you have the best job in the whole damn world, it's still nice to have time for yourself. Work to live. Don't live to work.

[Vonnie]

...and on the flip-side of the platform coin--

I have talked to 3 different people in my lifetime that worked in some capacity for a certain company in Redmond, WA. In all 3 cases, they said M$ was a phenomenal company to work for.

YMMV, but that is what I've heard from people I've known personally.

Yeah, if you check www.greatplacetowork.com, Microsoft scores pretty high. Often in the top 10 in European countries.

[kapao.org]

kapao.org recently returned to the Apple campus. This time a ten year old girl was singing over the family bullhorn: "IF YOU'RE HAPPY ABOUT OVERTIME CLAP YOUR HANDS"

GUESS WHO CLAPPED? Her mother's manager!

Her mother has had to work for the last 25 days in a row, and the boss clapped gleefully about it.

For the latest, check out http://www.kapao.org

[wdlove]

Gough and his children may be protesting, but I'm sure that they enjoy what the extra income can purchase. Many jobs require overtime work, so I don't see why a protest. Should be grateful that his wife has a job.

[Daveman Deluxe]

wdlove: It seems that Mrs. Gough is a salaried employee, so she doesn't earn any extra money for working overtime. That should be criminal. And four straight weekends without the weekend off? That's obscene.

[wdlove]

wdlove: It seems that Mrs. Gough is a salaried employee, so she doesn't earn any extra money for working overtime. That should be criminal. And four straight weekends without the weekend off? That's obscene.

I guess that it depends on the company. My wife is considered to be on a salary, but she gets a shift differential and overtime pay. Nursing isn't that bad that you have to work four weekends in a row. So what we need is an explanation from our beloved Steve Jobs, that is if it's under his direction.