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zimv20
Dec 15, 2004, 02:07 AM
link (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-port14dec14,0,3969160,print.story)


EDITORIAL

Terrorism's Trojan Horse

December 14, 2004

A terrorist attack involving a dirty bomb hidden in a cargo container wouldn't have to match the human toll of Sept. 11, 2001, to be effective. Shutting down even a few of the largest ports would have a devastating economic effect, so it's puzzling that so little is being spent to avoid such a catastrophe.

Oceangoing freighters will offload more than 9 million cargo containers at U.S. ports this year. Until we can know with certainty what's inside them, the boxes will remain, as U.S. Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Robert C. Bonner has said, "the potential Trojan horse of the 21st century."

Some progress is being made. The major foreign ports have agreed to give U.S. customs agents 24 hours' notice before U.S.-bound containers are loaded, and the port of Dubai on Monday became the first port in the Middle East to join the program. The United States also is dispatching customs agents to the world's busiest ports to establish offices. Shipping companies and cargo handlers around the world are completing self-evaluations to help identify weaknesses that terrorists might try to exploit.

But big problems remain, and most are tied to who's going to foot the bill for added security. Private industry, including manufacturers, parts suppliers and retailers whose goods flow through publicly financed ports, should shoulder a fair share of the financial burden, which means consumers ultimately will pay more for their goods. Government also must play a role. The Coast Guard estimates the cost of security improvements needed at U.S. ports at more than $5 billion over the coming decade. Others, though, set the final cost at closer to $15 billion. Yet Congress this month approved just a third of the $400 million that port operators — most of them public agencies with already tight operating budgets — had set as the bare minimum of federal money needed to help cover security costs during the 2005 fiscal year.

Congress' miserly approach is at odds with the importance of ocean shipping in global trade. More than 90% of non-North American foreign trade arrives on ships. It would be relatively easy to disrupt that trade, to devastating effect. As part of a 2002 war game, a consulting firm estimated that the U.S. economy would suffer a $58-billion hit if a terrorist threat — not even an actual attack — forced all oceangoing ports to close for two weeks. Yet all but 10% of the Transportation Security Administration's funding goes toward making airports safe.

Waiting for containers to arrive and then inspecting them isn't the answer. Keeping U.S. ports safe will require accurately tracking millions of containers from the moment they're filled. A notice of 24 hours won't mean much if what's in the container doesn't match what's printed on the shipping bill.

A truly effective system is going to be expensive. Failing to build it could be many times more costly.

emphasis mine.



Desertrat
Dec 15, 2004, 06:09 AM
Smuggling has gone on through ports since the dawn of commercial sea cargo. Booze, people, dope...

And then there is the problem of some hate-group owning its own vessel. Seemingly innocuous, actually moving cargo from Port A to Port B with break-bulk cargo instead of containers.

What's more innocuous than ten-foot diameter mahogany tree stumps from Central America, shipped as deck cargo? What's inside the one which was hollowed out?

Anybody remember the economic cost of that west-coast strike? Lotsa ways for money to be lost, which is why corruption has long been rife among longshoremen's unions. Bribing a union leader is cheaper than a nuke.

'Rat

IJ Reilly
Dec 15, 2004, 10:35 AM
Comparing union members with terrorists. Now there's an analogy that will take your breath away.

mactastic
Dec 15, 2004, 10:50 AM
Lotsa what-if's 'Rat. Where's any of that money gonna come from? More deficits?

Thanatoast
Dec 15, 2004, 12:52 PM
Lotsa what-if's 'Rat. Where's any of that money gonna come from? More deficits?
How about we ditch the ten billion-a-year missile defense? Spending that much on a non-working program to counter an expired threat seems a might silly.

Xtremehkr
Dec 15, 2004, 12:55 PM
I suspect that there are a lot of payoffs involved here, pure speculation of course. But the borders and ports are where the most contraband comes through, and yet remain the least protected. Just a thought.

Desertrat
Dec 15, 2004, 07:36 PM
I know of a now-ex sheriff doing life without parole for a deal involving one metric ton of pure cocaine. I know of a county commissioner doing a long federal term for involvement in smuggling. I've read of busts of customs agents for involvement with drug smugglers. I'd bet that some longshoremen are involved with drug smugglers. Any takers? I dunno as fact, but that's the way I'd bet.

Okay. So some crooked cop type, or crooked longshoreman or equivalent "enabler" thinks it's "merely" drugs in the container or the railroad tank car or in the semi...

Sure, it's all "what if...?" Does that mean the probabilities are zero?

"If" :) in the year 2000 I'd told you that some Arabs were gonna hit a national symbol with flying bombs, would you have said, "'Rat, that's probability zero."?

'Rat

mactastic
Dec 16, 2004, 11:28 AM
I'm not at all saying the probability of these kinds of attacks are low. In fact, I'm saying quite the opposite, that we are in serious danger of an attack coming from one of these sources you name.

I'm wondering where you are suggesting we get the money necessary to harden these targets? Since our government is already running a serious deficit, would you suggest we deficit-spend, raise taxes, or cut existing spending? TANSTAAFL, you know.

Ugg
Dec 16, 2004, 12:23 PM
Smuggling has gone on through ports since the dawn of commercial sea cargo. Booze, people, dope...

And then there is the problem of some hate-group owning its own vessel. Seemingly innocuous, actually moving cargo from Port A to Port B with break-bulk cargo instead of containers.

What's more innocuous than ten-foot diameter mahogany tree stumps from Central America, shipped as deck cargo? What's inside the one which was hollowed out?

Anybody remember the economic cost of that west-coast strike? Lotsa ways for money to be lost, which is why corruption has long been rife among longshoremen's unions. Bribing a union leader is cheaper than a nuke.

'Rat

Port security of the kind that would guarantee our safety would be so prohibitively expensive as to virtually shut down foreign trade. In most large ports, it's pretty hard for the longshoremen themselves to have any major impact on smuggling. Personally I think the danger is in all the small ports that handle smaller ships and in private boats that show up from abroad. The west coast has lots of little indentations where it would be very easy to dock a ship and unload cargo and begone again before anyone was the wiser and open sea transfers can be pretty effective too.

It's been sometime since I've heard of Chinese immigrants being found inside a container bound for the US, so hopefully the security measures have helped a little bit.

skunk
Dec 16, 2004, 01:27 PM
It's been sometime since I've heard of Chinese immigrants being found inside a container bound for the US, so hopefully the security measures have helped a little bit.
No, they just haven't found them.

Desertrat
Dec 16, 2004, 07:09 PM
Mac, with interest rates rising, I don't see how you can raise taxes that impact the middle economic class. "Tax the Rich" won't do much good, 'cause they just shift from earned income to some form of unearned income or refrain from selling assets. If the not-selling of assets becomes widespread, government income goes down at any tax rate...

I reckon TPTB will continue doing the Deficit Dance...

'Rat

mactastic
Dec 16, 2004, 07:17 PM
And you think we have enough deficit spending available to provide this? At some point our huge deficits will have an impact you know...

Desertrat
Dec 16, 2004, 07:36 PM
Aw, sure, they can continue the deficit thing for a good while. Howsomever, it reduces the value of the valuta, as you may have noticed. Our huge deficits are already having a strong negative impact; think "Euro" and "Yen" and other currencies.

This is not the time to go skiing in Europe.

'Rat

mactastic
Dec 16, 2004, 08:53 PM
If we cause ourselves great economic pain to protect against another terrorist strike aren't we playing right into their hands? The demise of the USSR comes to mind.

There isn't enough money to adequately protect what needs to be protected in this country to reasonable assure ourselves that we are prepared for all major contingencies. Those kinds of costs would cripple our economy. The alternative is leaving ourselves vulnerable to a crippling terrorist strike. Neither one sounds real good to me.

takao
Dec 17, 2004, 08:10 AM
This is not the time to go skiing in Europe.

well at least not when you are from the US ;)


i find it rather amusing that the economy here is already complaining about the weak dollar as well ...

solvs
Dec 18, 2004, 06:12 AM
So in other words 'Rat, don't spend money on the ports because it's too expensive for what little you can cover and people are going to smuggle anyway. And don't tax the rich because they'll just find a way to get out of it. Well, it's worked so well so far. As you said, who would have guessed some Arabs would've flown into those towers (cough: Richard Clarke :cough)? And who would've guessed those same terrorists could find a way to smuggle some dangerous stuff into our open ports? I mean, they have a little security right?

Let's throw more money at airlines and Iraq. That seems to be going so well right now, too. I mean, as long as people are getting a couple of hundred dollars back, who cares if the economy is in the toilet and we get blown up or poisoned? Not much you can do about it, I guess.

(don't mean to pick on you 'Rat, but I heard this excuse before, and I'm gonna be pissed if they try to use it again... if they have to use it again... and I'm getting real tired of the excuses at all)