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raysfan81
Sep 12, 2010, 11:49 AM
I know that the 9600 is fanless and supposedly the 9800 has a really loud fan. I think they both support quartz extreme and core image, right? Is there and advantage to either one other than that?



666sheep
Sep 12, 2010, 01:44 PM
9800 will be much faster. Especially in games and software which uses Core Image (like iMaginator or Aperture). I had few 9800 Pro (Mac and flashed ones) and its fan wasn't very loud. You can always change cooler to quieter or passive one (be sure that it will fit in MDD's enclosure).
If you aren't very demanding of graphics performance, you'll be satisfied with 9600XT. One important thing: if you'll choose 9600, get dual DVI version from G5. This is the only one worth it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/facelift,695-8.html - this will be true in Mac world too.

Alternatively, if you want to do some flashing job, you can grab 9700 from Hercules http://www.guru3d.com/review/hercules/prophet9700/. Best of the best of 9700 cards IMO.
9700 has one major advantage over 9800: it needs less power and runs cooler. Performance wise it's way better than 9600XT and bit slower than 9800. I had one of these and, in my usage, performance differences between 9700 and 9800 Pro were unnoticeable.

MacForScience
Sep 12, 2010, 02:06 PM
I know that the 9600 is fanless and supposedly the 9800 has a really loud fan. I think they both support quartz extreme and core image, right? Is there and advantage to either one other than that?

It all depends on what you want to do with it? If you want to do gaming (or other GPU intensive tasks) the better GPU is worth it even with the noise.

Support Information
http://guides.macrumors.com/Core_Image

For standard use I would go with the quieter low power usage one assuming it supports what you need it to.

Cheers

raysfan81
Sep 13, 2010, 02:13 PM
So is the 9800 pro the fastest card for the G4?

alphaod
Sep 13, 2010, 03:04 PM
So is the 9800 pro the fastest card for the G4?

I believe it is consider it's the last AGP card made.

Str8edgepunker
Sep 13, 2010, 03:29 PM
No it isn't but it should be the most cost effective. I believe the fastest card available for this computer, via rom flashing, is the Nvidia 7800gs with the G70 chip, but those seem hard to come by. Personally, I went for an ATI 9800xt, which is a little faster than the standard 9800 Pro and it worked perfectly. I have a post over on the strangedogs forums which details my success with that card: http://bit.ly/dyZdC9

sgrddy
Sep 13, 2010, 04:35 PM
I believe it is consider it's the last AGP card made.

7800GT AGP by those applemacanix guys:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mac-nVidia-GeForce-7800-GT-256MB-AGP-Video-Card-7800GS-/270564245687?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3efee2c0b7

666sheep
Sep 13, 2010, 05:07 PM
So is the 9800 pro the fastest card for the G4?

Precisely, it's fastest Genuine Mac card that fits in G4 :)

7800GT AGP by those applemacanix guys:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mac-nVidia-GeForce-7800-GT-256MB-AGP-Video-Card-7800GS-/270564245687?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3efee2c0b7

It's second fastest flashable AGP PC card, but it's GS, not GT. GS has 16/6 Pixel/Vertex shaders, GT has 20/7 Pixel/Vertex shaders. It makes the difference. First one is Gainward 7800GS 512MB which is real 7800GT with AGP interface.