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MacRumors
Sep 16, 2010, 02:38 PM
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Following Apple's release (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/09/apples-app-store-review-guidelines-offer-remarkably-candid-view-of-app-store-philosophy/) of its App Store review guidelines last week, Sean Kovacs, the developer of GV Mobile, indicated (http://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/10/apple-to-allow-google-voice-compatible-apps-back-into-app-store/) that he would resubmit his app to Apple for approval. GV Mobile, an app that offers native access on the iPhone to the search company's free Google Voice service, had originally been released in the App Store in early 2009 but was then removed (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/28/apple-rejects-official-google-voice-iphone-application/) by Apple in the summer of 2009 since it "duplicated features that come with the iPhone." Kovacs re-submitted the app, now dubbed GV Mobile+, to Apple earlier this week in light of the recently-published guidelines.

We have been able to preview the build submitted to Apple. Those who have used the version previously available in the App Store will find GV Mobile+ much more polished than before. Those with jailbroken iPhones who purchased GV Mobile through Cydia will find the new app's interface familiar and see some new features (http://www.seankovacs.com/index.php/2010/09/gv-mobile/) as well.

Google Voice is a free service that provides users with a phone number, advanced call management features, voicemail transcription, and free text messaging. Contrary to what those unfamiliar with the service might think, it is not a VoIP service. Google provides an overview of Google Voice's capabilities in a number of demo videos on a special Features page (http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html).

GV Mobile+ requires that a user have a Google Voice account before the app can be used. When first opening the app, you're prompted to enter your Google Voice account credentials. Once this is complete, you can refine how the app works in the Settings panel, including enabling and disabling the service's call screening feature, selecting phones to which incoming calls should be forwarded, how and when the app syncs with your Google Voice account online, and more.

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Phone calls are made through the Dial pane, which presents a standard virtual dial pad. The app automatically pulls in the current active group from the iPhone's Contacts app, making it easy to select an existing contact to call. Calls can also be dialed directly using the virtual dial pad. There's also a Favorites tab here where frequently-called contacts can be added for quicker access.

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Initiating a call results in the receipt of an incoming call, which is a normal feature of the Google Voice service since Google's servers initiate the call online and then connect the call to your iPhone's number.

If the Offline Dialing feature is enabled in the app's settings, GV Mobile+ will contact Google Voice's servers directly by initiating a call to them immediately, and you'll hear dial tones as the app manages the entry of the phone number to be dialed "manually" as you wait, eventually connecting the call. While it may sound cumbersome, this feature is useful if you do not have an internet connection or only a weak connection.

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Incoming calls to your Google Voice number ring through to your iPhone as any other call does as long as you have selected this option in your Google Voice account settings. You answer these calls using the iPhone's Phone app.

Outgoing calls made with GV Mobile+ present your Google Voice number in the caller ID function on the receiving end. The same goes for text messages sent through GV Mobile+. The SMS pane shows SMS history and the new SMS dialogue and existing SMS conversations appear much as they do in the iPhone's Messages app.

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For those on a limited messaging plan with AT&T or another provider, Google Voice can be a compelling alternative with its free, unlimited text messaging, which is easy to use in GV Mobile+. The only limitation with the Google Voice service itself in this area is that the service cannot send or receive MMS messages.

The next pane in GV Mobile+, History, acts essentially like the Recents pane in the iPhone's Phone app, showing all recent incoming and outgoing calls. The Voicemail pane shows all voicemails received and these can be listened to through the iPhone's speakerphone, the earpiece speaker, or wired headphones. The "Trans." button in the lower right corner will show Google's automatic transcription of the voicemail to text. While not always accurate, this service can be useful when listening to a voicemail is not feasible.

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While a badge showing the number of new items is displayed on the app's icon on the home screen, it does not send push notifications, though Kovacs promises this is coming.

Overall, GV Mobile+ offers a complete and convenient native interface for Google Voice. Once approved, GV Mobile+ will cost $2.99. Those who previously purchased the GV Mobile app when it was available in the App Store in 2009 will have an opportunity to get the new app for free during a short window of time after it has been in the App Store for about one week – this window of time will be announced by Kovacs through his Twitter account (http://twitter.com/seankovacs). Kovacs estimates that the approval time will take seven to thirteen days, putting GV Mobile+ in the App Store sometime next week.

Article Link: Preview: 'GV Mobile+' Brings Google Voice to iPhone (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2010/09/15/preview-gv-mobile-brings-google-voice-to-iphone/)



Daiden
Sep 16, 2010, 02:51 PM
Man, MacRumors is really pushing this app on its readers. It has been mentioned a few times over the past week. I suppose some people are easily persuaded with veiled attempts at subversive marketing.

pika2000
Sep 16, 2010, 03:11 PM
My concern is, is it safe for me to give my google account password to a random dev? I would be more comfortable using a Google Voice app made by Google themselves.

seankovacs
Sep 16, 2010, 03:34 PM
I guess the concern is, should you trust your phone to your Google account info? Because the app saves it to your phone.

With that, did you use the 3rd party Twitter clients (prior to their own) and the likes? Because they all came from 3rd party developers.

:)

ArtOfWarfare
Sep 16, 2010, 03:36 PM
With such a long article, I thought you might describe something other than features built into the iPhone itself.

Honestly, what the hell is the use of this app? Other than the transcription for your voice mail, nothing here sounds even slightly compelling or worth the hassle.

While it may sound cumbersome, this feature is useful if you do not have an internet connection or only a weak connection.

Or, you know, rather than screw around calling Google as a middle man, you could just call the damn number. IDK, just an idea. Part of the whole Apple philosophy of not needing step 3.

Step 1: Open App
Step 2: Dial Number * This is where the standard phone app is done and you just talk.
Step 3: Answer Phone? This is the extra retarded step that someone felt it was necessary to add.

macfan881
Sep 16, 2010, 03:44 PM
day 1 download, looks amazing

macfan881
Sep 16, 2010, 03:46 PM
With such a long article, I thought you might describe something other than features built into the iPhone itself.

Honestly, what the hell is the use of this app? Other than the transcription for your voice mail, nothing here sounds even slightly compelling or worth the hassle.



Or, you know, rather than screw around calling Google as a middle man, you could just call the damn number. IDK, just an idea. Part of the whole Apple philosophy of not needing step 3.

Step 1: Open App
Step 2: Dial Number * This is where the standard phone app is done and you just talk.
Step 3: Answer Phone? This is the extra retarded step that someone felt it was necessary to add.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Q9MJdT5Ds

watch that and you will find out why.

JDNGuru
Sep 16, 2010, 03:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Q9MJdT5Ds

watch that and you will find out why.

lol great vid.

eatbacon
Sep 16, 2010, 04:00 PM
Why is it that VoiceCentral's BlackSwan and the google voice web interface can both dial a number without waiting for an incoming call or a "cumbersome" process of waiting for the app to dial through, but this app can't? I owned the original version of this app and liked it well enough when it was the only workable option, but this sounds like a step backwards from what is available now. (At least in that one respect)

swarmster
Sep 16, 2010, 04:13 PM
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Contrary to what those unfamiliar with the service might think, it is not a VoIP service.

Actually, as of last month, it is. I'm waiting for all these outdated apps to get out of the approval chain so we can actually get some that support the modern Google Voice. Free calls to Canada from my phone? Yes, please.

Or is AT&T still going to shut those down?

redfrogr
Sep 16, 2010, 04:43 PM
My concern is, is it safe for me to give my google account password to a random dev? I would be more comfortable using a Google Voice app made by Google themselves.

Well, Sean has been through hell and back just to get this far, and I hope he gets it back in the App store. I've been using Google Voice since back in the day when it was Grand Central, and you have nothing to worry about. Sean's a pretty honest dude with a pretty nice size fanbase.

redfrogr
Sep 16, 2010, 04:51 PM
With such a long article, I thought you might describe something other than features built into the iPhone itself.

Honestly, what the hell is the use of this app? Other than the transcription for your voice mail, nothing here sounds even slightly compelling or worth the hassle.



Or, you know, rather than screw around calling Google as a middle man, you could just call the damn number. IDK, just an idea. Part of the whole Apple philosophy of not needing step 3.

Step 1: Open App
Step 2: Dial Number * This is where the standard phone app is done and you just talk.
Step 3: Answer Phone? This is the extra retarded step that someone felt it was necessary to add.

Because alot of people don't like giving out their real number. The only person who knows my number is Verizon and my girlfriend. Everyone else only knows my GV number. That way, I don't get any annoying incoming calls when I'm talking to my girlfriend because all those calls go straight to voicemail, just like good ole Google intended. You're such a Google Voice Newbie...LAWL!

tlevier
Sep 16, 2010, 05:27 PM
lol great vid.

Wow great. So I can make it easier for everyone else by eliminating their need to decide where to call me? Awesome!

So, instead of Business people calling my Business phone and Personal people calling my Mobile (which the number never changes, if I switch carriers, I just port the number to the new carrier) They all can call the same number and then I can manage where the call goes to! Then, if I want to change my mind later, I just manage my online GV account! No more of my company's online Avaya software for me! Now I don't have to forward calls from my desk phone to my cell phone! Wait a second...

How is this helping again?

Oh that's right, if I have a Google phone number, I'll have to ask everyone out there to forget my current numbers and accept that I might route their calls in a way that I can avoid them. I'm sure that will go over very well.

Then there's the fact that you can't have group text messaging, let alone text more than one person at a time because the text comes from one central location, so you aren't ever quite sure who is texting you. So maybe I'll just give my mobile number to all my friends for text messaging, but ask them to call a different number so they can reach me on my mobile with my text messaging number. Then if I duck their call from GV, they can call me on my text messaging phone number....wait... you did it to me again!

icrew
Sep 16, 2010, 05:40 PM
Honestly, what the hell is the use of this app?
[...]
Or, you know, rather than screw around calling Google as a middle man, you could just call the damn number.

Maybe to:
1) avoid paying AT&T's extortionate rates for international calls
2) have my outgoing calls show up with a caller ID that allows me to control who gets to call me, when I'm willing to accept calls, and to which of my 4 different phones (cell, home landline, office landline, and sipgate) calls should be routed
3) send and receive texts for free, again from my GV caller id number
4) and yes, to have transcriptions of my voicemail messages. (I HATE listening to voicemails. Having the transcription probably saves a minute per message, and the hassle of having to find a pen to write down the callback number.)

?

ljestrada
Sep 16, 2010, 07:10 PM
Try this:

1. Make a phone call to your GV number from an AT&T phone.
2. GV will route the call to your iPhone.
3. Answer on iPhone.

Check your minutes--after they're posted. Because the GV number is not within the AT&T network, the minutes will be deducted from your minutes.

This is a disadvantage.

I use GV for outgoing calls and use it directly from the GMail web interface.

mpossoff
Sep 16, 2010, 07:18 PM
On my desktop I can make free USA calls. Can you do this with the app similar to skype?

Marc

tmiranda
Sep 16, 2010, 08:26 PM
There are many reasons to use GV.
1. If you have a plan where you get "5 free people to talk with" you can add your GV number to that and all your calls will not count against your minutes
2. Free text messaging
3.ultimate number portability
4.your own personal "pbx"

and the list goes on and on.


GV Mobile+ may not be for everyone. I have it as a jailbroken app but rarely use it since I got an iPhone4. The new iphone is fast enough it renders the webapp as fast or faster than the dialing out process of Gv Mobile +. but when i had my 3G i had to have it. It was great.

rickpdx
Sep 16, 2010, 08:46 PM
OK, this sounds great! I have a GV number and use it from my desktop already. But I'm hearing that you can also use it, with this app, to avoid using your cell minutes almost entirely if you add your GV number to you’re A-List. Can anyone explain in detail with examples how this would work? Being new to this, that would be awesome. I'd love to be able to lower my plan minutes and use GV to talk as long as I want whenever and wherever. Thanks!

cvaldes
Sep 16, 2010, 09:56 PM
Honestly, what the hell is the use of this app? Other than the transcription for your voice mail, nothing here sounds even slightly compelling or worth the hassle.

Or, you know, rather than screw around calling Google as a middle man, you could just call the damn number. IDK, just an idea.
I have a Motorola dumbphone with a Truphone Local Anywhere SIM, a prepaid service.

By using Google Voice on my iPod touch, it will call back my dumbphone. Oddly, Truphone is not deducting any money at all from outgoing dialback calls nor any incoming calls from Google Voice. That's right. I basically don't pay for domestic telephone service. I have much better things to do with a grand of my money every year.

Most smartphone users are paying $800-1200 annually. Might need to shove ten or twenty bucks into my account, just to keep it alive (for the rare periods when I choose to have Google Voice SMS messages routed to my dumbphone).

Google Voice is also good when you're using an iPod touch with a SIP client, and want to call the United States for free while you're abroad. I'm currently using a combination of Riverturn's VoiceCentral BlackSwan HTML5 app, Acrobits' GroundWire SIP client, and a Gizmo5 SIP account. Absolutely brilliant.

tablo13
Sep 16, 2010, 09:59 PM
Does this support Gmail calling? When I go to the Google Voice "app" on web, it just goes to the actual Google Voice. :confused:

revelated
Sep 16, 2010, 10:48 PM
Been using Google Voice since it was GrandCentral. The Google Voice version is superior in many ways, inferior in a few ways.

The free SMS is great. I live and breathe on email - unlike the social media types of today, I feel that email is still the better application. There's no unspoken obligation to reply immediately, and it costs me nothing (including ads). So I'm glad that I can not only receive my SMS as emails, but that I can reply to said emails and have them go back as SMS messages. Didn't really like the "nbsp;" that it put in there though on some.

Transcription of voicemails is often wrong. But I can get the gist of it and decide whether I want to call the person back. Again, to my email.

My contacts sync automatically with my Palm Pre - so if I search a contact, it's searching my Google Voice contacts.

I can flag a number as spam which basically lets the phone ring on the caller's end, but doesn't ring through to me. This averts junk callers because if you answer the phone they know the number is valid.

I can also play a "not in service" message at my whim, especially good for jerks who get on my nerves. I had to use that with some paranoid cat that was trading a MacBook Pro some months ago and didn't pay attention to my very specific conditions.

Multiple ring throughs so I can direct the call to wherever I happen to be. I only use the one number now - my cell phone - but back when I had like three numbers it was great to be able to receive calls at any one of them at any time.



I can't imagine not having the Google Voice number. All they need to do is add the VoIP calling from GMail such that I can outbound VoIP directly from Google Voice, and I'll be all set. ( I hate logging into Gmail).


Does this support Gmail calling? When I go to the Google Voice "app" on web, it just goes to the actual Google Voice. :confused:

No.

ArtOfWarfare
Sep 17, 2010, 04:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Q9MJdT5Ds

watch that and you will find out why.

Haha, cool, thanks.

macswitcha2
Sep 17, 2010, 09:01 AM
so one question, is using GV Mobile mean FREE? Are all calls in and out and text messaging free?

dwd3885
Sep 17, 2010, 09:19 AM
so one question, is using GV Mobile mean FREE? Are all calls in and out and text messaging free?

txt messages are free. Calls are not. Calls use your cellular minutes.

redcupr
Sep 17, 2010, 09:22 AM
Here's what I use GV for:

I set up my GV number as a local number for my family (they live in a different state), so when they call me they dial a local number and it rings through to my home phone and/or cell phone.

I don't use GV to dial out very often so the new app may not be for me, but I'll probably grab it anyway.

ericg301
Sep 17, 2010, 10:55 AM
I'd be more interested if Google's official GV app gets approved. No offense to Sean, but I'd like to see what Google's army of developers can do with an official, approved app.

I love the idea of Google voice, but after more than a year of playing with it, I can't make the switch full-time.

1. No MMS support. WEAK.
2. No iPhone app (obviously changing soon...)
3. No support for extensions. So I can't get my work phone to ring.
4. Not 100% reliable. When I did have people call that number, I missed a handful of calls and voice mails....leading me to my biggest issue with GV...

5. It's a free service. You get what you pay for. There's no support line to call. If you have issues, all you can do is post an SOS on their message boards, and hope they read it and get back to you. My phone calls are too important to leave to chance like that. Say what you want about AT&T, but whenever I've had an issue, I call them up and get it resolved. That's what you get as a paying customer. I would pay a small monthly fee for GV to get access to support like that.

So for now, I simply use GV as a masking number. It's on my resume, website, personal business cards and social profiles to protect my cell #. I also give it out where I get my haircuts, oil change, dry cleaners, etc. Basically anyplace that stores my number for marketing or identification purposes.

For a while, I did use it as my cell phone voice mail (using the wonderful PushMail app). But after getting my iPhone4, I never set it back up, and forgot how cool and seamless visual voicemail is.

Bottom line -- GV is a cool "toy" and does have it merits, but it does have a ways to go.

google
Sep 17, 2010, 12:56 PM
SMS is not free

You still get charged for txt when it comes to your phone and send it back.

ericg301
Sep 17, 2010, 12:58 PM
SMS is not free

You still get charged for txt when it comes to your phone and send it back.

Not totally true. You only get charged if you set up GV to forward text messages to your phone as SMS. But if you get them send to your email instead, and use some sort of notification app (like PushMail), then you byepass AT&T and the iPhone's text messages.

google
Sep 17, 2010, 02:11 PM
Not totally true. You only get charged if you set up GV to forward text messages to your phone as SMS. But if you get them send to your email instead, and use some sort of notification app (like PushMail), then you byepass AT&T and the iPhone's text messages.

Defeats the purpose of txt msgs, you can do that for free with any cell phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx@tmomail.net for example.

ericg301
Sep 17, 2010, 02:15 PM
Defeats the purpose of txt msgs, you can do that for free with any cell phone number xxx-xxx-xxxx@tmomail.net for example.

True, but that defeats the point of GV in the first place — one number to rule them all. If you add your GV # to your Fave5, Friends and Family, or A-List, and use some sort of push notification for text messages, then it's technically possible to not use ANY minutes or ANY SMS messages.

That being said, it's not a seamless process and does take a few extra steps:
1. Configure GV to send all text messages to your gmail account
2. Set up a Gmail filter that pushes those GV text messages to a notification service like Boxcar or PushMail

Then you bypass your provider's text messaging...yet still get all the benefits of having a single number (and not having to use an email address)

cvaldes
Sep 17, 2010, 03:09 PM
Not totally true. You only get charged if you set up GV to forward text messages to your phone as SMS. But if you get them send to your email instead, and use some sort of notification app (like PushMail), then you byepass AT&T and the iPhone's text messages.
Yeah, I have Google Voice SMS messages (as well as voicemail and missed call alerts) forwarded to Boxcar, a push notification service.

It works pretty well, plus it's free.

That being said, it's not a seamless process and does take a few extra steps:
1. Configure GV to send all text messages to your gmail account
2. Set up a Gmail filter that pushes those GV text messages to a notification service like Boxcar or PushMail
You can actually eliminate step 1 and simply have Google Voice forward your text messages (and voicemail notifications) directly to Boxcar.

google
Sep 17, 2010, 03:34 PM
I really hope Google puts a kabosh on this guys app and make their own. he is just giving us a app that forwards info and useless in my opinion. Should be free if he gets approved.

iCrizzo
Sep 17, 2010, 06:07 PM
Someone has already released a native app in the app store today, it is not the official app though:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gv-connect/id347835665?mt=8

cvaldes
Sep 18, 2010, 10:49 AM
I really hope Google puts a kabosh on this guys app and make their own. he is just giving us a app that forwards info and useless in my opinion. Should be free if he gets approved.
I paid for and used the original version of Sean Kovacs' GV Mobile and it was worth every penny. When the new version appears at the App Store, I will be happy to give him a few more bucks.

I don't understand why you're so caustic (I acknowledge the fact you may be a fat ugly, smelly troll with bad skin). If you don't want to pay for a Google Voice app, you have options. There's the free HTML5 app from Riverturn: VoiceCentral BlackSwan which works well (and is peppered with ads). You can also use Google's own mobile Google Voice websites (the legacy one and the fancier version).

That said, a native compiled application is a far superior user experience to a webapp.

I would be happy to see Google come up with their own Google Voice app and see how it stacks up with Kovacs' GV Mobile.

vjl323
Sep 18, 2010, 10:55 PM
Sean just released it on the US AppStore a few minutes ago for $2.99. Direct link: http://bit.ly/GVMobilePlus

Has issues with iOS 3.1.3, but runs great for me under iOS 4.1 on my 3GS.

Resist
Sep 19, 2010, 01:38 AM
Your iPhone still needs cell phone service for this app to work though, correct? I have an old iPhone 3G without cell service (upgraded to an iPhone 4), and can still use it with Wifi apps for texting and such. So I was wondering if there was a way to do Wifi phone calls on it, like I can on my computer with GMail. Is it possible with this app? I know I can't with the Skype app.

blackcrayon
Sep 19, 2010, 08:20 AM
Your iPhone still needs cell phone service for this app to work though, correct? I have an old iPhone 3G without cell service (upgraded to an iPhone 4), and can still use it with Wifi apps for texting and such. So I was wondering if there was a way to do Wifi phone calls on it, like I can on my computer with GMail. Is it possible with this app? I know I can't with the Skype app.

No. You could use it in conjunction with something like Whistle Phone (I just tried it on my iPad, and it works). Of course that makes it an even more convoluted setup, but it *does* work. Realize in that case you could just use Whistle Phone directly to make the call, but if you want it coming from your GV number then this is how you'd do it.

(Dialed with GV Mobile, rings whistlephone, answer it there, then my other phone rang as the call was passed through via google voice).

tempusfugit
Sep 19, 2010, 10:06 AM
Wow great. So I can make it easier for everyone else by eliminating their need to decide where to call me? Awesome!

So, instead of Business people calling my Business phone and Personal people calling my Mobile (which the number never changes, if I switch carriers, I just port the number to the new carrier) They all can call the same number and then I can manage where the call goes to! Then, if I want to change my mind later, I just manage my online GV account! No more of my company's online Avaya software for me! Now I don't have to forward calls from my desk phone to my cell phone! Wait a second...

How is this helping again?

Oh that's right, if I have a Google phone number, I'll have to ask everyone out there to forget my current numbers and accept that I might route their calls in a way that I can avoid them. I'm sure that will go over very well.

Then there's the fact that you can't have group text messaging, let alone text more than one person at a time because the text comes from one central location, so you aren't ever quite sure who is texting you. So maybe I'll just give my mobile number to all my friends for text messaging, but ask them to call a different number so they can reach me on my mobile with my text messaging number. Then if I duck their call from GV, they can call me on my text messaging phone number....wait... you did it to me again!


Good thing you won't have to deal with all of this frustration because you don't use google voice.

Now, if you don't mind, pipe down. GV is pretty awesome and it helps me run my business smoothly. Furthermore, its free (right now, at least).

einmusiker
Sep 19, 2010, 10:50 AM
GV is all about texting and choosing your number. It's also great for those of us with multiple cell phones. GREAT service

Resist
Sep 19, 2010, 10:25 PM
No. You could use it in conjunction with something like Whistle Phone (I just tried it on my iPad, and it works).Thanks, but I just found that iCall does what I am looking for. It's free plan only gives me 5 minute calls, but it works pretty good so far.



UPDATE: Think I found a much better app, it's Whistle Phone. Free calls (within the continental U.S.) and no time limit, but you do get visual and voice ads. Also you can receive calls. The downside right now is that they assign you the number randomly, so your area code could be long distance for your family/friends. Supposedly they are going to fix this.

tesilential
Sep 20, 2010, 02:42 AM
So for now, I simply use GV as a masking number. It's on my resume, website, personal business cards and social profiles to protect my cell #. I also give it out where I get my haircuts, oil change, dry cleaners, etc. Basically anyplace that stores my number for marketing or identification purposes.
For a while, I did use it as my cell phone voice mail (using the wonderful PushMail app). But after getting my iPhone4, I never set it back up, and forgot how cool and seamless visual voicemail is.

Bottom line -- GV is a cool "toy" and does have it merits, but it does have a ways to go.


Aha! Theres a reason for me to get this app.

johnlo
Sep 20, 2010, 08:03 AM
is anyione having a problem using offline dialing feature "Enable"?? i'm trying that feature.. and all I ended up is leaving a message on my GV voicemail box. but when I dial it manually myself, no problem at all. from looking at the dial pad on myiphone, i'm not sure if GV Mobile+ is actually pressing "*" once my voice message greeting starts. .... or am i doing something wrong? otherwise my GV Mobiles appears to be working fine.

Ultimatetone
Sep 20, 2010, 10:04 AM
I'll have to ask everyone out there to forget my current numbers
and accept that I might route their calls in a way that I can avoid them. I'm sure that will go over very well.

Ummm... only if you outright tell them you will be better-equipped to screen their calls and be more productive.

Then there's the fact that you can't have group text messagingSimply untrue!

With some preparation, you can set-up a 'group' and have Group Text messaging (via Google Voice) for FREE.

Here's a related article (but not the solution...yet) Group SMS arrives in Google Voice web app; coming soon to mobile (http://www.knowyourcell.com/news/409238/group_sms_arrives_in_google_voice_web_app_coming_soon_to_mobile.html)

Here are some better Group Text solutions -

Simply need a Group Text App for iPhone?
Check-out 'Group Text SMS' by Intelligenti Publishing

Want to use Google Voice to send a Group text for FREE? (does not require GV Mobile+ or similar App)
Please read all-the-way through before getting ahead of things.

Now that Google Voice has email forwarding for incoming SMS, you can send bulk SMS using a little trick. When you get a Google Voice SMS forwarded to your email, it comes from a unique email address that is now linked to that contact (this unique email address consists of your GoogleVoice number, the contact's cell number, some alphanumeric characters, followed by @ txt.voice.google.com)

At this point, you could simply store this unique email address as the primary email for each contact. Then you can create an email, add all these new 'alternate' SMS email users to the sender list, leave the subject area blank and create your Group SMS via email!

However, this is approach is less than optimum, as when you later go to send a single email and select that contact, it will first show the "alternate-sms-email", not their "normal" email address. What to do?

For now, I recommend just to cut/paste those unique, Google Voice-generated, email addresses into notepad or similar for now and keep reading...

Here's the "best, non-jailbroken, Google Voice-based, FREE Group Text solution for the iPhone" I've found -

Simply create a single Contact entry (for a particular group of email addresses.)
Please proceed to this blog post (http://red66.com/2009/07/how-to-send-group-emails-from-your-iphone) to see how that is done, as specific formatting is needed.

I also use Google Sync to sync my Google Voice account's Contacts with my iPhone's Contacts.
This makes it easier to create a properly-formatted, 'group' Contact within Google Voice while on my PC
(vs. on the iPhone itself), as described in the aforementioned linked blog post.

DO NOT CONFUSE THIS WITH TEXT-TO-EMAIL WORKAROUNDS OF THE PAST - IT'S MUCH BETTER!

Once a 'group' Contact is properly created, I simply go to send an email from the Gmail Account
that is associated with my Google Voice Account (from within the iPhone's Mail App)
start typing the name of the 'group' Contact desired in the 'To:' field and select it.
I leave the Subject line blank and then type my text message within the body of the email and send.
All replies to this 'Group Text message' will automatically be sent to my Google Voice number.

For instant notification of incoming Google Voice Text Messages -

I have my Google Voice account configured to send an email of the incoming text
(to the Gmail account associated with the Google Voice account) and use the App called GPush
to send a push notification to my iPhone. I can then reply by via email, Google Voice HTML5-based mobile website,
or GV Mobile+ as desired. It works quite seamlessly and it's FREE!


Marc

ericg301
Sep 20, 2010, 01:11 PM
Good thing you won't have to deal with all of this frustration because you don't use google voice.

Now, if you don't mind, pipe down. GV is pretty awesome and it helps me run my business smoothly. Furthermore, its free (right now, at least).

I'm shocked that there's people out there like yourself who rely on a free service, with no immediate support, to run their business. I hope I'm not one of your clients or customers when GV goes down.

Not trying to be smug--just trying to make a point. I think GV is an awesome idea, but without any support for business-critical situations, you're playing Russian roulette.

techwarrior
Sep 20, 2010, 05:42 PM
OK, this sounds great! I have a GV number and use it from my desktop already. But I'm hearing that you can also use it, with this app, to avoid using your cell minutes almost entirely if you add your GV number to you’re A-List. Can anyone explain in detail with examples how this would work? Being new to this, that would be awesome. I'd love to be able to lower my plan minutes and use GV to talk as long as I want whenever and wherever. Thanks!

1. Put your GV # in Alist
2. When you make a call, your GV number calls your ATT number and then connects to the other party. The call looks to ATT like inbound from your GV number.
3. Set GV to show your GV # in inbound calls. Inbound calls now look to be coming from your GV number BUT you cannot see who is really calling unless you use GV call screening. OR, simply call the person back using GV if you will be talking long.

Bottom line, you will still use some ATT minutes, but you can avoid using large chunks of minutes by using GV to call out.

markgo2k
Sep 22, 2010, 10:21 AM
I'm shocked that there's people out there like yourself who rely on a free service, with no immediate support, to run their business. I hope I'm not one of your clients or customers when GV goes down.

Not trying to be smug--just trying to make a point. I think GV is an awesome idea, but without any support for business-critical situations, you're playing Russian roulette.

:shrug. I've had GV since it was Grand Central. The moment Google took it over, I felt confident that Google would stand behind the service at least long enough that it wouldn't disappear abruptly. I made it my primary "home" number, and give my direct cell only to very close friends and family. I have a cheap VOiP service to give the home a landline, and I set GV to ring that number, my cell and my wife's cell. Now:

1) Calls are pre-screened. This has almost totally eliminated telemarketers, particular when used in concert with the NoCall registry. They've tweaked it over time, and it mostly works even with robocalls for school notifications or doctor appointment confirmations.

2) I can pick up a call from anywhere, and most folk need only one number to reach the family. Kind of a return to the days before cell phones :-). I have the convenience of being able to pick up the call anywhere (as if I had given out my cell number) but if I'm home, I pick it up on the VOiP where it's free and I don't blow minutes.

3) Voicemail transcription is hugely useful. Even though it's not perfect, I can almost always figure it out well enough that I only need to listen to the vmail about 1 time in 10. Even without an app, it's just one click in the mail message that contains the transcription.

4) Really easy temporary phone redirection. Handy when you know you're going out of cell phone range, or have any other reason to direct all calls somewhere.

5) Really cheap international calls. Though to be frank, I haven't really used this much due to the inconvenience of outdial. That's where an app like GV Mobile comes in, along with giving you a nice convenient interface to vmail that's just like Visual Voicemail (only with transcriptions!).

6) Brings new meaning to number portability. Now you don't need to move your number. I've changed home phone providers, and also saved myself $200 on my iPhone 4 upgrade because I don't really care when either number changes. My GV number is stable, all else may change. I literally don't even know my "home" number and if I change my cell phone I only have to tell about 10 people (all of whom also know the GV number--the only reason to call my cell direct just to save cell minutes using unlimited mobile-to-mobile calling).

As far as reliability, in the 4 years I've been using it, I've seen a handful of incidents where calling the GV number didn't result in call group phones being rung. In these cases, I still got vmail notifications. In all these cases, it returned to normal in less than 2 hours.

I've encountered two cases where the vmail was down. In both of these cases it was back up within 1 hour.

Frankly, these reliability levels exceed AT&T cellphone AND Comcast VoIP in my experience.

YMMV....

tmiranda
Sep 23, 2010, 08:47 AM
I'm shocked that there's people out there like yourself who rely on a free service, with no immediate support, to run their business. I hope I'm not one of your clients or customers when GV goes down.

Not trying to be smug--just trying to make a point. I think GV is an awesome idea, but without any support for business-critical situations, you're playing Russian roulette.

You were trying to be smug. I bet there is a business right now that you are a customer of that uses GV Voice in some fashion.

revelated
Sep 23, 2010, 11:16 PM
You were trying to be smug. I bet there is a business right now that you are a customer of that uses GV Voice in some fashion.

Yeah...Google ;)