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amitdoc2b
Sep 16, 2010, 04:11 PM
Hi!

I live in the US and am not too tech-savy, but have pre-ordered the new Apple TV that I am excited to use. In addition to my Apple TV, our family has a 17-inch MBP, 27-inch iMac, another Toshiba laptop, and 3 iPhones. For our household, what would be the best (and affordable) wireless router? We currently use 'Linksys (by Cisco) WRT54G' but it is now 5 years and old outdated. We also have a phone powered into the router, and when we get phone calls it causes the internet to disconnect if we are surfing on the computer. I want all this to be avoided and have a great streaming experience when I use Apple TV. Please provide me recommendations for routers. Thanks so much!



Creative One
Sep 16, 2010, 04:18 PM
Airport Extreme.

belvdr
Sep 16, 2010, 04:18 PM
What revision is your WRT54G? If it's 5.0 or above, it's a very clumsy unit.

The newer WRT54GL is a great unit and can usually be found for (rather) cheap on the Internet. I had two for 8 years without issue. I switched to AEBS, as backing up my laptop over 802.11g was terribly slow.

Airport Extreme.

*sigh* It depends if $180 is affordable to the OP. For just basic use, I doubt that it is. Why would you recommend an AEBS in this scenario?

DJinTX
Sep 16, 2010, 04:36 PM
What revision is your WRT54G? If it's 5.0 or above, it's a very clumsy unit.

The newer WRT54GL is a great unit and can usually be found for (rather) cheap on the Internet. I had two for 8 years without issue. I switched to AEBS, as backing up my laptop over 802.11g was terribly slow.



*sigh* It depends if $180 is affordable to the OP. For just basic use, I doubt that it is. Why would you recommend an AEBS in this scenario?

I know this was aimed at Webers, but I would like to chime in. I think the AEBS makes alot of sense in this scenario. It is extremely easy to setup and maintain, and since OP has many Macs, he or she likely already knows the upsides here. It would fit in well with their Mac ecosystem. It certainly isn't the least expensive option, but I have gone the route of least expensive and definitely regretted it.

I had a linksys wrt54g. It worked fine for approximately 14 months, and then died. The worst part was Linksys would not support me via telephone because I had no PC at home. They ran through some basic resets, and then beyond this said they were not able to support in-depth troubleshooting on a Mac. They suggested I borrow a friend's PC. Yeah, that's not a good solution. I don't know if their support training has changed, but if not, I would avoid them like the plague.

If my AEBS goes down, then I know Apple will definitely support me. Of course in the three years I have had my AEBS, I have never had an issue.

Ultimately, the AEBS is a very strong product, and since the OP likes Macs, then it really should only come down to cost. If the AEBS is in the price range, then grab it. If not, then grab something else (not linksys). I think Op will go for the AEBS. Just a hunch ;)

Good Luck~

belvdr
Sep 16, 2010, 04:41 PM
I know this was aimed at Webers, but I would like to chime in. I think the AEBS makes alot of sense in this scenario. It is extremely easy to setup and maintain, and since OP has many Macs, he or she likely already knows the upsides here. It would fit in well with their Mac ecosystem. It certainly isn't the least expensive option, but I have gone the route of least expensive and definitely regretted it.

I had a linksys wrt54g. It worked fine for approximately 14 months, and then died. The worst part was Linksys would not support me via telephone because I had no PC at home. They ran through some basic resets, and then beyond this said they were not able to support in-depth troubleshooting on a Mac. They suggested I borrow a friend's PC. Yeah, that's not a good solution. I don't know if their support training has changed, but if not, I would avoid them like the plague.

If my AEBS goes down, then I know Apple will definitely support me. Of course in the three years I have had my AEBS, I have never had an issue.

Ultimately, the AEBS is a very strong product, and since the OP likes Macs, then it really should only come down to cost. If the AEBS is in the price range, then grab it. If not, then grab something else (not linksys). I think Op will go for the AEBS. Just a hunch ;)

Good Luck~

The AEBS works fine, but so does most other routers. Apple just gives you another utility to use in order to manage it. It's not hard to manage another router via a web browser.

As for Linksys, the WRT54GL is a very strong product. The WRT54G 5.0+ model is terrible and Linksys realized that quickly after it was introduced. Additionally, they are now owned by Cisco, which is a very good company. I have never used tech support for any router, so I cannot comment there.

BoulderBum
Sep 16, 2010, 04:43 PM
The big advantage of the Airport Extreme is that if you're streaming iTunes content from a Mac to your Apple TV, the Mac can be in standby mode and the router will wake it up when Apple TV demands via something called "Wake On Demand". This saves on electricity, which I'm a fan of.

In that way, Apple-branded routers are the only ones to provide any sort of special integration with the Apple TV.

The drawback is that the Airport Extreme doesn't have quality of service (QoS) features so while other (less expensive) routers prioritize network traffic such as VOIP phone calls, the Airport is fairly dumb in that regard. You may experience a drop in call quality if you are downloading a large file at the same time as talking on the phone. If you're worried about such things, you may want to consider another brand.

belvdr
Sep 16, 2010, 04:47 PM
The big advantage of the Airport Extreme is that if you're streaming iTunes content from a Mac to your Apple TV, the Mac can be in standby mode and the router will wake it up when Apple TV demands via something called "Wake On Demand". This saves on electricity, which I'm a fan of.

In that way, Apple-branded routers are the only ones to provide any sort of special integration with the Apple TV.

Keep in mind that not all Macintosh computers support this. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3774

Also, there's some really dumb instructions in that link if you use a Mac in clamshell mode.

amitdoc2b
Sep 16, 2010, 06:07 PM
Thank you everyone for all your comments, and your points have been noted. While Airport Extreme is a great option, its also very expensive. I also need something that won't drop the internet when i receive calls using the internet phone. Also, what is the difference between an N and G router? I guess my current Linksy one is G. Apple TV specs show: "AirPort Extreme, Wi-Fi 802.11b, g, or n wireless network (wireless video streaming requires 802.11g or 802.11n)". Which would be the best for streaming experience of the two? And what are the best non-Airport Extreme routers that won't drop the internet during internet voice calls and give a good Apple TV streaming experience?


The AEBS works fine, but so does most other routers. Apple just gives you another utility to use in order to manage it. It's not hard to manage another router via a web browser.

As for Linksys, the WRT54GL is a very strong product. The WRT54G 5.0+ model is terrible and Linksys realized that quickly after it was introduced. Additionally, they are now owned by Cisco, which is a very good company. I have never used tech support for any router, so I cannot comment there.

pirateRACE
Sep 16, 2010, 07:54 PM
I've been looking at the same situation as the OP. I have a WRT54G and all macs/iPhones and looking to get an AppleTV. I'd recommend trying to flash the router with the open source firmware DD-WRT. If you google it there are many resources on the process. I'm no network guru but was able to do it last night in about 15 minutes. The advantage of this is the expanded capabilities of the firmware. You could then try tweaking different settings to see if it helps your problems. If not, you haven't wasted any money and can look for a decent simultanous dual band router like the Airport Extreme for less money.

DJinTX
Sep 16, 2010, 08:07 PM
The AEBS works fine, but so does most other routers. Apple just gives you another utility to use in order to manage it. It's not hard to manage another router via a web browser.

As for Linksys, the WRT54GL is a very strong product. The WRT54G 5.0+ model is terrible and Linksys realized that quickly after it was introduced. Additionally, they are now owned by Cisco, which is a very good company. I have never used tech support for any router, so I cannot comment there.

I would say that someone with experience managing a non-apple router via broswer would find it pretty easy. However, it can be very challenging for those who haven't done it before, or for the less tech savvy. I am quite technically proficient but I find it to be a huge pain at times. I enjoy having Apple's utility as it makes it a breeze. I have used browsers to set up my own non-apple routers as well as routers for family members, and I just see no reason to go through that if I can help it.


Thank you everyone for all your comments, and your points have been noted. While Airport Extreme is a great option, its also very expensive. I also need something that won't drop the internet when i receive calls using the internet phone. Also, what is the difference between an N and G router?

The AEBS is backward compatible with all of those networking protocols, a/b/g/n. N is the most recent and fastest, and would be the way to go. I doubt you can even find a or b anymore, although if you go with a non-apple router make sure it is compatible with as many networking standards as you can in case you or someone you know has an older wireless card.


Oh, and in case it is helpful to the OP or anyone else, you can find a refurbished current gen AEBS on the Apple site for $129. http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC340LL/A?mco=MTc4MzI5NzM Apple gives the full warranty on refurbished items.

BoulderBum
Sep 17, 2010, 02:39 AM
Also, what is the difference between an N and G router? I guess my current Linksy one is G... Which would be the best for streaming experience of the two? And what are the best non-Airport Extreme routers that won't drop the internet during internet voice calls and give a good Apple TV streaming experience?

The difference between N and G is that N is much faster and has better range. Either protocol (N or G) will be sufficient for streaming content to the Apple TV, however.

Chances are your internet connection is going to be the bottleneck in your network.

That said, given your requirement for maintaining VOIP call quality, I'd definitely consider a router with QoS features.

I had the D-Link DIR-655 and liked it; it has configuration-free QoS that worked pretty well. There are even cheaper routers that have QoS however, and it would be worth checking out if your current router has such features.

reticulate
Sep 17, 2010, 02:55 AM
If you're streaming movies/TV shows in your iTunes library from a Mac to the Apple TV, ideally you want a dual-band wireless-n router for the best performance (dual-band being a router that does both 2.4 and 5GHz wireless). This applies to practically anything you wish to connect wirelessly, but streaming media is always going to be hard on throughput so the best bandwidth you can give is worthwhile.

If one end of the connection is going to be plugged in via ethernet, you could probably try wireless-g - I've had success doing this with a 360 in the past - but if both your Mac and Apple TV are wireless you really need the extra bandwidth of n, and dual-band is going to give even better performance.

There's a few decent dual-band routers available, and I imagine we'll see more coming out soon as it becomes a popular method. Apple obviously have the Extreme and the Time Capsule, but Linksys and Dlink offer alternatives amongst others.

Of course, if you only intend to view media purchased through the Apple TV, a connection wireless-g or above will work since you're going to be limited by your internet connection.

belvdr
Sep 17, 2010, 08:07 AM
I would say that someone with experience managing a non-apple router via broswer would find it pretty easy. However, it can be very challenging for those who haven't done it before, or for the less tech savvy. I am quite technically proficient but I find it to be a huge pain at times. I enjoy having Apple's utility as it makes it a breeze. I have used browsers to set up my own non-apple routers as well as routers for family members, and I just see no reason to go through that if I can help it.

My point is that whether it's a web page or Apple's utility, the terminology doesn't seem any simpler on either one. It's just using a different application to manage it.

DJinTX
Sep 17, 2010, 09:48 AM
My point is that whether it's a web page or Apple's utility, the terminology doesn't seem any simpler on either one. It's just using a different application to manage it.

Some of the same terms are used for both, and it is the same technical process, just achieved through differing methods. However, I find Apple's descriptive text and step by step questions giving you suggestions much easier to follow for the less experienced.

My father-in-law attempted to set up his Linksys, and quickly gave up in frustration only to have me do it for him. I of course was able to, but it was a pain. From then on every time it needed a hard reset, which was too frequent, he always had me do it. Then, when the linksys died on him, I advised him to get an airport extreme since they have macs. I expected a call to help him get it set up, but it never came. He did it without help and said it was pretty easy.

So I find it to be much more straightforward for lots of users.

BoulderBum
Sep 17, 2010, 12:32 PM
If one end of the connection is going to be plugged in via ethernet, you could probably try wireless-g - I've had success doing this with a 360 in the past - but if both your Mac and Apple TV are wireless you really need the extra bandwidth of n, and dual-band is going to give even better performance.

I disagree that dual band N, or even plain Jane N is much of an advantage in the OP's case. Again, even wireless G is going to have much faster network throughput than an internet connection can keep up with (or even an internet connection and simultaneous iTunes stream).

Wireless N is needed more for larger homes (increased range) or if you're doing simultaneous HD streams or want large file transfers to go faster. Since the Apple TV no longer has to sync content, wireless N is nice to have in general, but not a requirement if you're looking to save money.

That said, why not get an N if you're in the market for routers?

amitdoc2b
Sep 18, 2010, 02:32 AM
I think I'll go with the DIR-655 because its only $70 brand new. How much of a speed increase will I see going from the Linksy WRT54G to this? Will my Apple TV streaming be better with this? And how do I know if my computer, Apple TV, and portable devices are using N instead of G since this DIR-655 box and devices are capable of using both N and G types of wireless internet? I don't want to end up still using G when I upgraded to N.



I had the D-Link DIR-655 and liked it; it has configuration-free QoS that worked pretty well. There are even cheaper routers that have QoS however, and it would be worth checking out if your current router has such features.

CWallace
Sep 18, 2010, 12:45 PM
I went from a WRT54G to the dual-band AEBS and have been very pleased, but then most of my ecosystem is Apple (iMac, MBP, previous :apple:tv, iPhone).

Grubster
Sep 18, 2010, 10:38 PM
Just try using what you have with the apple tv when you get it, it probably will be fine. If it is not, then go buy a better one. I have a great netgear with G speed and it works great,so why change without knowing how atv will work.

FFabian
Sep 19, 2010, 07:06 AM
As far as i know the AEBS does not support DDNS (via DynDNS) which i use quite frequently . I suppose the OP doesn't need this but still ...

tripjammer
Sep 19, 2010, 06:05 PM
Apple Airport Extreme...the lastest version.
It rocks! No issues with it.

WiiDSmoker
Sep 19, 2010, 06:37 PM
I'd like the AAE; but I can't justify the $179 price tag =/

BoulderBum
Sep 19, 2010, 11:07 PM
Apple Airport Extreme...the lastest version.
It rocks! No issues with it.

I like mine for the most part (especially the power-saving "wake on demand" integration with Macs), but it's frustrating that you have to disable the dual-band capabilities if you have an iPhone 4 (lest you get an extremely flaky connection with the phone). I paid good money for an Apple router specifically for its dual-band capabilities and now I can't use it because of another Apple product! Sheesh!

JoshBoy
Sep 20, 2010, 02:14 AM
Airport Extreme FTW

Seydlitz
Sep 20, 2010, 06:04 AM
I wouldn't recommend Linksys as their current line-up is weak (a lot of problems, this is reflected in their forum).

Personal experience: I bought the dual band WRT320N and am not impressed. It has some useless gimmicks, like a setup button for wireless... why a button for something you will do once and then never touch again (I assume most people don't reconfigure their wlan ever other day). Why not a wireless on/off button, so you can switch off the broadcasting.

Also at least twice did it lose it's DHCP settings, forcing a factory reset.

My personal experience gives the nudge to Draytek for advanced users and Sitecom for budget use (very limited interface, but so far very stable).

But for the best and easiest experience I will join the Airport Extreme chorus.

A good resource (the best!): http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/

newagemac
Sep 20, 2010, 06:22 AM
I like mine for the most part (especially the power-saving "wake on demand" integration with Macs), but it's frustrating that you have to disable the dual-band capabilities if you have an iPhone 4 (lest you get an extremely flaky connection with the phone). I paid good money for an Apple router specifically for its dual-band capabilities and now I can't use it because of another Apple product! Sheesh!

Why would you disable the dual band capabilities for the iPhone 4? That would make no sense. The iPhone 4 only uses the 2.4GHz N band and any of your 5GHz N capable devices use the other band. The Dual Band function is specifically for situations like that.

As a matter of fact, I have that setup in my home and it works perfectly. My iPhone 4 uses the 2.4GHz N band, my Wii uses the 2.4GHz band through a G connection, while my Macbook Pro and Mac Mini use the 5GHz N band.

One great thing about Apple routers that other routers don't do is when you have slower G-only devices along with N devices on the 2.4GHz band like I have, they don't make the N devices slow down. Instead they slow down the G devices and give priority to N. So in my situation, the iPhone 4 gets priority over the Wii and of course my Macbook Pro and Mac Mini get the full speed of 5GHz N since it's dual band.

Siriosys
Sep 20, 2010, 06:45 AM
+1 for AEBS

I've got both the Extreme and the Express.

I've had NUMEROUS routers in the past and have for a number of years avoided the Apple routers simply because of price (I have no way of buying them Wholesale like I do most other IT gear).

However, like a number of you, I've experienced the various quirks of each particular brand and decided that I'd give the Apple stuff a go after my last router/ADSL modem was fried during an electrical storm.

I couldn't be happier. I'm now using the AEBS in it's dual-band modes with iDisk and also Time Machine on it (although it's not officially supported).

And for whatever reason, when I insalled the AEBS and also an AE upstairs, my AppleTV's network performance improved dramatically.

Alongside my AppleTV and a number of Macs, our household also has iPhones x 2 and a Logitech Squeezebox. And various Pc's come and go, and using the 'Guest Access" feature of the AEBS, I don't have to compromise my local network's security just to allow somebody access to the 'net.

BoulderBum
Sep 20, 2010, 12:13 PM
Why would you disable the dual band capabilities for the iPhone 4? That would make no sense. The iPhone 4 only uses the 2.4GHz N band and any of your 5GHz N capable devices use the other band. The Dual Band function is specifically for situations like that.

I agree. It's pretty ridiculous, but it's a widespread issue:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2492829

About 1/2 the time, my iPhone 4 got "incorrect password" messages, lost connection, and got repeated "unable to join" messages even WITH the correct password.

I begrudgingly disabled dual-band simply because it caused such instability with iPhone 4. Now things are fine.

Tilpots
Sep 20, 2010, 12:19 PM
I agree. It's pretty ridiculous, but it's a widespread issue:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2492829

About 1/2 the time, my iPhone 4 got "incorrect password" messages, lost connection, and got repeated "unable to join" messages even WITH the correct password.

I begrudgingly disabled dual-band simply because it caused such instability with iPhone 4. Now things are fine.

So 4.1 didn't solve this issue???

BoulderBum
Sep 20, 2010, 02:05 PM
So 4.1 didn't solve this issue???

Unfortunately not.

Tilpots
Sep 20, 2010, 02:12 PM
Unfortunately not.

Bummer. I don't think it even has to do with the AEBS or Dual Band. I think the Wifi is just flaky sometimes. I have an old Linksys router that i need to constantly reset. My Mini never loses connection, but both household iP4's do. Sucks...

egorka
Sep 20, 2010, 02:26 PM
I have a WRT610N simultaneous dual band router downstairs and an Apple Airport Express upstairs.

I'm very happy with both. You can get a refurbished WRT610N from Linksys for $100 shipped. Check out www.techbargains.com for a coupon code and order it directly from Linksys.

I upgraded from a WRT54G also also and have been more than impressed with the performance of the WRT610N.. I use a Linksys wireless bridge upstairs on the 5.8Ghz band for streaming video to my TV and all my other devices are on the 2.4Ghz band. It works flawlessly.

The WRT610N even has a USB port you can plug in a hard drive and access it from the internet, or set it up as a media streaming device. I wouldn't call this one of it's best features though, as some USB drives don't work with it for some reason. But it might be a benefit to you.

I think the old WRT610N routers are better than the E series routers. My mother has an E1000 and it's a pain to setup compared to the WRT610N- but they're trying to push the encryption for the n00bs.

Besides. the WRT610N is DDWRT compatible!

Hope this helps!!

iggypod
Sep 20, 2010, 02:28 PM
I went from a WRT54G to the dual-band AEBS and have been very pleased, but then most of my ecosystem is Apple (iMac, MBP, previous :apple:tv, iPhone).

Exact same here (had WRT54G as well). We are also very pleased with it.

Doc750
Sep 20, 2010, 02:36 PM
I picked up a refurb apple airport extreme current gen a week weeks ago for $130 in preparation for apple tv, as well as a general upgrade from the 8 yr old lynksys I was running before.

Tilpots
Oct 6, 2010, 03:18 PM
Just wanted to link this thread to this one (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1023201).

People are speculating that a new AEBS or Time Capsule might be AirPlay compatible. Just candy for your thoughts...:)

sjinsjca
Oct 6, 2010, 03:31 PM
You can't go wrong with the D-Link DIR-655. Excellent router. It has an industrial-strength firewall that is VPN-friendly should you ever need to connect to a corporate network, and its Quality-of-Service engine works really well. It's easy to set up (use the web interface, not the install CDs, regardless of what router you buy!) and very reliable once in use, in my experience.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=d-link+dir+655

faith4more
Oct 6, 2010, 03:33 PM
Old wrt54g best wireless router ever made. I would like to upgrade to an N router but just cant give up my 54g.

joudbren
Oct 6, 2010, 05:25 PM
You should be just fine with Dlink DIR-655. I used to have one of those and it worked flawlessly with my original ATV. Connection always stayed live and no hassles with performance. I wanted to go dual radio however so bought a Netgear WNDR3700 to replace it. Nothing but trouble ever since. Sometimes devices won't connect to it at all and I'd have to power cycle the router to get things working again. My ATV and ATV2 would both lose their connection to the Netgear after sleep mode and would take up to a minute to reconnect again and would often lose their password settings or not even connect. (power cycle again)

Bought the Airport Extreme on a whim a week ago and I am in wireless heaven so far! Everything just works. It all stays connected, performance is great, and I have my dual radio bands too. It's missing some features such as QOS as previously mentioned and no SPI in the firewall but for me, couldn't care less. The device is doing what I need it to do and haven't had to power cycle it even once. Just my two cents worth and if you are on a budget, the Dlink should be ok. I had a rev. 2 model and I think they're up to rev. 4 now so hopefully it still works as consistently as my old 655 did. If you can swing the Airport Extreme though, then I can highly recommend that beast. Cheers!

P.S. The AEBS even wakes up my wireless Lexmark printer when it's in sleep mode and print jobs go normally now instead of a communication error message all the time. That was a pleasant surprise with the Airport Extreme!

James

T4R06
Oct 6, 2010, 05:34 PM
Netgear 3400. Hands down! You can found them at staples $79 -$25 coupon.

Dual band "simultaneous" my apple tv never stutter.

djuarez03
Oct 6, 2010, 05:41 PM
I bought a Motorola SBG6580 N Cable Gateway/Router, and it works great for me. I bought it in anticipation of owning an Apple TV and it works great. I bought it on eBay for less than $100. That is one way to go.

pasipple
Oct 6, 2010, 05:46 PM
I had a Dlink DIR-855 which is pretty much supposed to be the top of the line. I've had nothing but problems with it. I have to reset it every other day after my wireless network goes down.

I bought an AirPort Extreme and couldn't be happier. Setup was fast and easy and for the two weeks I've had it it has worked flawlessly. Also, my Western Digital Passport Studio external drive was a breeze to install and configure and works great with the ATV2. I couldn't get my DIR-855 to recognize my Passport Studio.

BoulderBum
Oct 7, 2010, 01:47 AM
Bummer. I don't think it even has to do with the AEBS or Dual Band. I think the Wifi is just flaky sometimes. I have an old Linksys router that i need to constantly reset. My Mini never loses connection, but both household iP4's do. Sucks...

Turn off the 5Ghz band. I have a Mac Mini, Macbook Pro, Apple TV, PS3, WiFi printer, HP Pavillion Elite, iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS and the only hardware that seemed to have an issue was the iPhone 4's my wife and I own.

They were constantly dropping the connection when dual-band was on (several times a day), but they've only had one or two disconnects in about a month's time since I turned the 5Ghz band off. I definitely think the problem is with the iPhone 4, not the router.

amitdoc2b
Oct 7, 2010, 02:11 AM
I had a Dlink DIR-855 which is pretty much supposed to be the top of the line. I've had nothing but problems with it. I have to reset it every other day after my wireless network goes down.

I bought an AirPort Extreme and couldn't be happier. Setup was fast and easy and for the two weeks I've had it it has worked flawlessly. Also, my Western Digital Passport Studio external drive was a breeze to install and configure and works great with the ATV2. I couldn't get my DIR-855 to recognize my Passport Studio.

I bought the DIR-655 and it is absolutely perfect. My wireless connection increased from 10mb down/2.5mb up to 25mb down/5mb up. Apple TV works great on it, it's completely flawless. Nothing but good things to say, no dropped connections, and no interference when receiving VOIP phone calls.

dXTC
Oct 7, 2010, 02:51 PM
... We also have a phone powered into the router, and when we get phone calls it causes the internet to disconnect if we are surfing on the computer. I want all this to be avoided and have a great streaming experience when I use Apple TV. Please provide me recommendations for routers.
...

Do you have DSL broadband? If so, have you placed DSL filters on all your home phone lines, including the one for your DSL modem (which should have two outputs, one for the phone, and one for the modem)? When I first installed DSL broadband at home, we had this same problem, and DSL filters eliminated the problem.

By the way, count me among those praising the Apple AEBS, if for nothing else than simultaneous dual-band. It'll prevent your Wi-Fi G devices (like older laptops and iPod Touches) from slowing down the transfer rate of all your N devices. I have one and have had no problems from it; I've put it and the DSL modem on a UPS for extra protection.

Nevertheless, it's good to see you're happy with your D-Link. Before the AEBS, I used a D-Link DI-524 as my router, and it served me rather well.

ladysman
Oct 7, 2010, 04:01 PM
I would like to add that I use and recommend the ASUS RT-N16 flashed with tomato. Provides tons of feature and best of all, this router is a powerhouse as far as routers go. 533mhz processor, 128mbs of ram. I use it on 2 Apple TV's and many many computers at a time. Nothing phases it.

As far as G speeds slowing down N, this is NOT true, at least with this router. This is my first N router (coming from a flashed WRT54GS) so i can't say for others. My wife's N laptop is connected at 300mbps all the time even with many G clients also connected.

The firmware has come a very long way and provides tons of useful features (DLNA, 2 USB Ports, VPN, excellent QoS to name a few). Best of all, the router can be found for $80 or less and the firmware is free. Although I recommend a donation. :)

Firmware
http://www.linksysinfo.org/forums/showthread.php?t=63587

Just wanted to offer another solution.

BlackMangoTree
Oct 7, 2010, 09:19 PM
If you don't want to spend any money you could just use your AirPort in your Mac.

gilford
Oct 8, 2010, 05:16 AM
I agree. It's pretty ridiculous, but it's a widespread issue:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2492829

About 1/2 the time, my iPhone 4 got "incorrect password" messages, lost connection, and got repeated "unable to join" messages even WITH the correct password.

I begrudgingly disabled dual-band simply because it caused such instability with iPhone 4. Now things are fine.


I get this exact same issue with my iP4, very annoying :mad:

Apart from the above issue though, I can highly recommend the Billion router, right up there with Draytek. I got mine off Amazon.

JRoDDz
Oct 8, 2010, 11:16 PM
My recommendation is Airport Extreme Base Station.

I have had absolutely no issues with it. I don't even know it's there, which is what a router should do, work dependably and flawlessly in the background.

The $129 refurbished AEBS is a great deal!

Chodite
Oct 24, 2010, 03:43 PM
I'm using an "old" Linksys WRT54G wireless-G and streaming BluRay rips at 720p from my Macbook (upstairs) to my Apple TV 2 downstairs is perfect. You can find 'em online for about $25.

BeachChair
Oct 24, 2010, 06:30 PM
Having worn down 5 different routers from Asus, Netgear, Trendnet and experiencing all kinds of minor nuisances, I finally went and bought a used 4 month old Airport Extreme.
It cost $120, but it's working really well. The simultaneous dual-band helps me in my struggle for domination of the airwaves with the neighbors, and I can finally stream HD movies to the Xbox with no hickups.