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anthdci
Sep 23, 2010, 08:47 AM
I am contemplating if I want to get a new appleTV for the living room of my new house. I like the minimalistic look and don't want a HTPC or large DVD player so the sleek appleTV would be ideal. The trouble is I have about 200 DVD movies that I would like to put into my itunes library. Am I right in thinking that apple provide noway of doing this using their software? I have to use something else to rip the film in the correct format for iTunes to use it? Surely apple should include something in iTunes for people to add their purchased DVD media direct to their library so it can be used with the appleTV.



spinnerlys
Sep 23, 2010, 08:51 AM
iTunes is already bloated, to add another functionality other applications already provide in abundance would be not really useful.

You can use Handbrake + VLC to transcode your DVDs to an iTunes compatible format, just use the Apple TV preset.

And have a look here: How to backup/copy/rip video DVDs to your HDD and transcode them to another format. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=825323&highlight=)

anthdci
Sep 23, 2010, 09:03 AM
it just seems like a lot of work is involved in getting it to work, if apple want people to use this they have to make it easy and if that is the best way it is currently not. Especially if your wanting all the album artwork etc associated with it.

spinnerlys
Sep 23, 2010, 09:06 AM
it just seems like a lot of work is involved in getting it to work, if apple want people to use this they have to make it easy and if that is the best way it is currently not. Especially if your wanting all the album artwork etc associated with it.

It might be complicated at first, but relatively easy once gets the hang of it. Just like riding a bike. One has to learn it first, but once learnt, you can ride.

Also of interest: How-To: Automating DVD & Blu-Ray (Backup, Encoding & Tagging) for Mac OS X 10.6 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=805573)

OllyW
Sep 23, 2010, 09:10 AM
it just seems like a lot of work is involved in getting it to work, if apple want people to use this they have to make it easy and if that is the best way it is currently not. Especially if your wanting all the album artwork etc associated with it.

It's not Apple's fault though is it? I'm sure they be happy to make importing your movies into iTunes just as easy as it is to get music from a CD.

On the other hand, the film industry and their lawyers wouldn't be at all happy. :(

OptyCT
Sep 23, 2010, 09:18 AM
Anth:

Like you, I have dozens of movies that I've never ripped to my HDD. Looking back on it, I'm glad I didn't. I have many friends who have TB's of movies ripped in all sorts of formats (WMV, DIVX, etc.), none of which are compatible with iTunes. Since I pre-ordered the AppleTV, I recently began the undertaking of ripping my collection to .m4v/.mp4 using Handbrake. The initial thought of having to rip and tag all of these movies seemed daunting. I have a busy schedule. I work full-time, have two kids, work out an hour every night, etc. Having been doing it for a little over a week, I now have about 35 movies ripped and tagged (cover art, descriptions, and even chapter titles) in my library. Looking back on it, it really wasn't as much effort as I thought. You set up a rip preset, put the DVD in the drive, press start, and walk away for an hour (or more) and go live your life. I find it rewarding to take the physical DVD and case after it's ripped, and put it in a box which will be going into my attic once it's full. To be honest with you, I'll probably end up watching these movies more now that I'll be able to use them with my ATV.

anthdci
Sep 23, 2010, 09:19 AM
its no different from music industry letting you import cd music into itunes though surely.

@OptyCT
that is exactly what I mean, I just thought it would be so much easier if it was built into iTunes and that automatically picked up what it was and put the coverart on for you.

Markusp
Sep 23, 2010, 10:56 AM
You won't see this type of functionality on iTunes as I believe it is actually a Federal offence to circumvent the copy protection on DVDs in order to rip them to a hard drive etc.

Heck - we all do it anyways BUT it would be a completely different story for Apple and iTunes to provide such functionality.

What would all their media partners say? That would pretty much spell the end for iTunes rentals etc.

tbayrgs
Sep 23, 2010, 05:19 PM
You won't see this type of functionality on iTunes as I believe it is actually a Federal offence to circumvent the copy protection on DVDs in order to rip them to a hard drive etc.

Heck - we all do it anyways BUT it would be a completely different story for Apple and iTunes to provide such functionality.

What would all their media partners say? That would pretty much spell the end for iTunes rentals etc.

This ^. But I'm sure Apple would love to help you out and provide you with a nice 720p copy of your film, complete with coverart and all media tags....all for only $14.99-$19.99 per film :D.

tommylotto
Sep 23, 2010, 05:57 PM
If Apple made it that easy for you, what the hell would we be doing on this forum? This is where to go to learn about MakeMKV and Handbrake and Subler, etc.

Flash SWT
Sep 23, 2010, 10:50 PM
it just seems like a lot of work is involved in getting it to work, if apple want people to use this they have to make it easy and if that is the best way it is currently not. Especially if your wanting all the album artwork etc associated with it.

Apple absolutely does NOT want you to easily rip your DVDs. Apple TV is all about rentals and streaming purchased content from iTunes. As evidenced by the whole lack of BluRay issue I think it is safe to say Steve Jobs wants physical media to die. The Apple vision is all cloud based media, rented or bought, with Apple getting a slice of every transaction.

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CEB12345
Sep 23, 2010, 11:42 PM
i have been using RipIt. Works great. It makes a standalone copy of the disk and then uses HandBrake to make a copy for itunes. Im about 10 disks in and so far its almost flawless.

RandomNinjaAtk
Sep 24, 2010, 12:37 AM
It's not only because of the itunes store only, but also if they built in a dvd ripper/blu-ray ripper, they would in fact be breaking the law because it would enable one to break decryption on the disk. Like many other large software companies that created this kind of software and were sued and shutdown the product. Just a thought on that.

guitargoddsjm
Sep 25, 2010, 09:29 AM
I'm fairly new to archiving my movies, so bare with me...

My goal is to store all of my movies in an iTunes friendly format so I can watch them primarily on my apple tv, but also on my macbook, iphone, and my girlfriend may want to watch them on her ipad. Up until now, I've been using Handbrake with the Apple>Universal preset. I know I'll achieve the best results by changing the settings for each movie, but for someone who doesn't want to muck around in the settings for a while, will Universal have a good balance between quality and size?

Also, I saw the stickied "How-To: Automating DVD & Blu-Ray (Backup, Encoding & Tagging) for Mac OS X 10.6" guide, but I'm a little bit confused. In that guide, they automate ripping AND encoding with separate programs. I know what the difference is, but I thought Handbrake could do both of these things?'

Thanks in advance!

From A Buick 8
Sep 25, 2010, 10:00 AM
I'm fairly new to archiving my movies, so bare with me...

My goal is to store all of my movies in an iTunes friendly format so I can watch them primarily on my apple tv, but also on my macbook, iphone, and my girlfriend may want to watch them on her ipad. Up until now, I've been using Handbrake with the Apple>Universal preset. I know I'll achieve the best results by changing the settings for each movie, but for someone who doesn't want to muck around in the settings for a while, will Universal have a good balance between quality and size?

I use the Apple TV preset in handbrake and have been happy with, that being said i have been happy with the results in frontrow, i have yet to get my ATV yet.

Also, I saw the stickied "How-To: Automating DVD & Blu-Ray (Backup, Encoding & Tagging) for Mac OS X 10.6" guide, but I'm a little bit confused. In that guide, they automate ripping AND encoding with separate programs. I know what the difference is, but I thought Handbrake could do both of these things?'

Thanks in advance!

There will be some DVD's that handbrake will not be able to rip.

gugy
Sep 25, 2010, 11:21 AM
Regarding this topic. Is there a way to rip DVDs, encoding in Handbrake and being able to keep the extra features usually DVD offers?
Am I able to navigate the same way as I do on DVD menus or do I need to create an individual movie for each new feature?
Thanks

coryndiego
Sep 25, 2010, 11:27 PM
Who's to say that DVD player in Mac OSX won't adopt Airplay. Makes sense to me.
I had to move my G5 across the room from my tv when I last moved and it's no longer my digital entertainment system... It will be great to have a streamline device that can Apple can build on to revolutionize the home entertainment system. :). Tethering my MBP to the tv sucks.

Dean Bray
Oct 1, 2010, 06:18 AM
Who's to say that DVD player in Mac OSX won't adopt Airplay. Makes sense to me.
I had to move my G5 across the room from my tv when I last moved and it's no longer my digital entertainment system... It will be great to have a streamline device that can Apple can build on to revolutionize the home entertainment system. :). Tethering my MBP to the tv sucks.

Hi people, I have been reading your posts with interest. I have recently bought an Apple TV and am in the process of putting my collection of DVDs into iTunes using MTR 2.6.6. (I just found out I can upgrade and am in the process of reading the blurb). Thing is I live in Switzerland and here the DVDs have 2 & 3 language files typically. (there in lies the problem) Trying to select only the English file has me at a loss. It would seen i‘m not alone in multiple language problems and it would seem as I read The series 24 must be a nightmare. I‘ve been trying different pre-sets all to no avail. Once the VOB file is out I have been converting it with Elgato.264 for a final MP4 file which iTunes accepts. Lots of hours having been wasted i'm looking for solutions as this has lead me here. I‘ve been days on this and still no further forwards but at least it's not me being super thick (or is it):rolleyes:

Any advice would be sucked up like a plant in the Dessert

This is my first Post so play nice. I am using a imac G5.

From A Buick 8
Oct 1, 2010, 08:47 AM
Regarding this topic. Is there a way to rip DVDs, encoding in Handbrake and being able to keep the extra features usually DVD offers?
Am I able to navigate the same way as I do on DVD menus or do I need to create an individual movie for each new feature?
Thanks

You can rip and play back just like the DVD using DVD player, if you want to put into iTunes you would need to add each special feature as it's own "movie"

How often do you watch the special features, when DVD first came out i was in love with the special features and thought i would watch them all, but i have found that i watch fewer and fewer of them. The ones i do watch i find that i only watch the one time. I have just decided to use the physical media for watching the special features.