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zimv20
Dec 23, 2004, 08:08 PM
link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A20986-2004Dec22)

afaik, this is the first that a major US paper has used that term.


THANKS TO a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union and other human rights groups, thousands of pages of government documents released this month have confirmed some of the painful truths about the abuse of foreign detainees by the U.S. military and the CIA -- truths the Bush administration implacably has refused to acknowledge. Since the publication of photographs of abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison in the spring the administration's whitewashers -- led by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld -- have contended that the crimes were carried out by a few low-ranking reservists, that they were limited to the night shift during a few chaotic months at Abu Ghraib in 2003, that they were unrelated to the interrogation of prisoners and that no torture occurred at the Guantanamo Bay prison where hundreds of terrorism suspects are held. The new documents establish beyond any doubt that every part of this cover story is false.

Though they represent only part of the record that lies in government files, the documents show that the abuse of prisoners was already occurring at Guantanamo in 2002 and continued in Iraq even after the outcry over the Abu Ghraib photographs. FBI agents reported in internal e-mails and memos about systematic abuses by military interrogators at the base in Cuba, including beatings, chokings, prolonged sleep deprivation and humiliations such as being wrapped in an Israeli flag. "On a couple of occasions I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water," an unidentified FBI agent wrote on Aug. 2, 2004. "Most times they had urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18 to 24 hours or more." Two defense intelligence officials reported seeing prisoners severely beaten in Baghdad by members of a special operations unit, Task Force 6-26, in June. When they protested they were threatened and pictures they took were confiscated.

Other documents detail abuses by Marines in Iraq, including mock executions and the torture of detainees by burning and electric shock. Several dozen detainees have died in U.S. custody. In many cases, Army investigations of these crimes were shockingly shoddy: Officials lost records, failed to conduct autopsies after suspicious deaths and allowed evidence to be contaminated. Soldiers found to have committed war crimes were excused with noncriminal punishments. The summary of one suspicious death of a detainee at the Abu Ghraib prison reads: "No crime scene exam was conducted, no autopsy conducted, no copy of medical file obtained for investigation because copy machine broken in medical office."

Some of the abuses can be attributed to lack of discipline in some military units -- though the broad extent of the problem suggests, at best, that senior commanders made little effort to prevent or control wrongdoing. But the documents also confirm that interrogators at Guantanamo believed they were following orders from Mr. Rumsfeld. One FBI agent reported on May 10 about a conversation he had with Guantanamo's commander, Maj. Gen. Geoffrey D. Miller, who defended the use of interrogation techniques the FBI regarded as illegal on the grounds that the military "has their marching orders from the Sec Def." Gen. Miller has testified under oath that dogs were never used to intimidate prisoners at Guantanamo, as authorized by Mr. Rumsfeld in December 2002; the FBI papers show otherwise.

The Bush administration refused to release these records to the human rights groups under the Freedom of Information Act until it was ordered to do so by a judge. Now it has responded to their publication with bland promises by spokesmen that any wrongdoing will be investigated. The record of the past few months suggests that the administration will neither hold any senior official accountable nor change the policies that have produced this shameful record. Congress, too, has abdicated its responsibility under its Republican leadership: It has been nearly four months since the last hearing on prisoner abuse. Perhaps intervention by the courts will eventually stem the violations of human rights that appear to be ongoing in Guantanamo, Iraq and Afghanistan. For now the appalling truth is that there has been no remedy for the documented torture and killing of foreign prisoners by this American government.

emphasis mine.



blackfox
Dec 23, 2004, 08:17 PM
Well, they hedged their bet - it is an editorial.

Call me worn-out or just uber-cynical, but "will this dog hunt?"

It should, but I am pretty sure it will be forgotten/deflected by other "issues". As always...

meh.

IJ Reilly
Dec 23, 2004, 08:57 PM
This should all be throughly investigated by Congress of course, but we have to know it won't be. That's what happens when the entire government is controlled by one party. You can hide an awful lot of perfidy in Washington if the people with the power to reveal it refuse to do so.

blackfox
Dec 23, 2004, 09:28 PM
This should all be throughly investigated by Congress of course, but we have to know it won't be. That's what happens when the entire government is controlled by one party. You can hide an awful lot of perfidy in Washington if the people with the power to reveal it refuse to do so.
yeppers.

I can see it now:

Any Democrats with enough balls and integrity will come out and denounce these actions. As they should. The sunstance and validity of their arguments, however, will be ignored. Instead the GOP pundritry will pull out rhetoric involving:

a) that the Democrats are merely bitter, desperate and unscrupulous after losses in 2004 elections, and are trying to undermine America and it's will (as evinced by same elections).

b) that the charges seem rather difficult to get to the bottom of, are probably exaggerated and will distract from our mission in Iraq to give freedom to the Iraqis. Such distraction is unpatriotic. In any case, it is the fault of the Democrats, the Insurgents or the French.

c) that it is a purposeful distraction, undermining of the President by Democrats once again trying to push their agenda through "activist" courts. Scrutiny in this matter, will weaken the President and gay people everywhere will be marrying, law suits will cripple our fine economy and bankrupt SS. Also, any US deaths in Iraq/mismanagement by Bush will be the fault of these "meddlers".

d) It will embolden terrorists everywhere.

e) Any Republicans calling for inquiry have "private" agendas, are looking towards 2008, or have been "brain-washed" by the Liberal media and/or Democrats.

f) It was Rumsfeld's fault

g) Hey, look! shiny.

h) we don't have the time or money for any investigation. There's a war with bad people.

i) It is Clinton's fault

j) It is the UN's fault

k) Screw you. The President can do what he wants and there is nothing you can do about it.

l) Saddam Hussein was worse. You still want him in power? You un-american a**hole. No? Then shut the hell up.

Other media outlets will eventually succumb to talking about these erroneous points instead of the actual issue, the public will lose what little interest they had, and it will all disappear.

It may come up again in the Congressional races of 2006, where it will be dismissed as Campaign rhetoric.

meh.

skunk
Dec 23, 2004, 09:34 PM
Do I detect a note of cynicism?

meh to you, too.

blackfox
Dec 23, 2004, 09:37 PM
Do I detect a note of cynicism?

meh to you, too.
not just a note... a whole symphony.

hem.

solvs
Dec 26, 2004, 05:30 AM
d) It will embolden terrorists everywhere.
I've heard this argument, too. Funny, you'd think actually commiting the crime would be the problem, not the fact that it gets reported. Especially when it would look better to criticize and punish those that do the bad things than to try to cover it up. Especially when this is one of the real reasons they hate us so much. Governements do horrible things in the name of freedom and safety and patriotism, while the people allow themselves to be kept in the dark because they are so busy with their own lives and problems. A lot of us are waking up to the truth, but our voices get drowned out by those who profit from both sides' agendas. So we b*tch about it, but give up because the whole system is screwed and there's not much anybody can do about it.

Happy Holidays everyone! Enjoy it while you can, because the cynic in me is pretty sure we're all screwed.

Sun Baked
Dec 30, 2004, 12:22 AM
(g) always worked for me... and Homer Simpson. :p

Drop a Krugerand on the floor and the majority of the American public will instantly forget the conversation they were having and beat (or litigate) each other sensless over who owns the coin that'll be on eBay the next day.