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davevt98
Oct 6, 2010, 02:21 PM
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/revue

Interesting price point.



dhy8386
Oct 6, 2010, 02:42 PM
That has been the price speculated for weeks. It seems high to me until it proven otherwise (although the 179 for dish peeps is interesting). Not sure why id pay 100 more than a boxee box and 3 times an apple TV. It def comes out of the gate more open and content heavy but this market is just heating up and i wouldnt invest so much now until i see what everyone has to offer.

svega3
Oct 6, 2010, 03:05 PM
It seems high to me until it proven otherwise
I agree, you can get an aspire revo for 150ish and load boxee/xbmc/skype and accomplish almost the same thing.

Rooskibar03
Oct 6, 2010, 03:50 PM
Normally I really love Logitech products, but the first thing that came to mind when I saw it was this old gem.

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/po/091109/097r2/8362e1n_27.jpeg

$299 for this thing? After a bit more reading I'm really disapointed in LT. IR blasters, really? This from a company that practically owns the universal remote business. A keyboard remote? Come on.

I'll spend a few bucks more and get a Mac Mini and use Air Mouse on my iPad.

bobr1952
Oct 6, 2010, 05:05 PM
Would seem to be difficult to compete with ATV and Roku at that price. I don't think most care will really want to spend another $200. For me the difference between ATV and Roku is Amazon on Demand vs iTunes. I personally don't care about all the other fanfare--especially for $200.

gcmexico
Oct 6, 2010, 05:23 PM
this will not work...I've tried this years ago, keyboard with device connected to tv...it just makes it feel like a computer...it's all about the GUI and remote...a plex interface with a boxee remote, would be more appealing....looking at this makes me think I'm buying a computer to hook up to my tv...no thanks

ThisIsNotMe
Oct 6, 2010, 05:39 PM
$300 base with a $600 ceiling.

What a joke.

At $300 you can get a nettop from Lenovo with they keyboard remote and an actual OS (Windows 7).

God, what are these people thinking.

Most people don't want something that looks like it came from the space shuttle to control their TV, they want simple.

Hell, many couldn't even program the clock on their VCR.

This has to be a joke.

jaw04005
Oct 6, 2010, 05:44 PM
IR blasters are so 2002. Why can't HDMI devices talk to each other to change channels? They authenticate copy protection (HDCP).

ftaok
Oct 6, 2010, 08:21 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this thing looks interesting. Sure, IR is kinda hacky, but it looks like it will put an overlay on top of the HDMI in. So if you're watching via your CableBox, you'll get the GoogleTV interface on top of the cable company's interface. Plus all of that picture-in-picture stuff.

That blog article about input 1 and input 2 was spot on. This is definately input 1.

Not sure if that's what I really want. Might be too complicated for my (and my family's) needs. 20 years ago when I was a lot more geeky ... yeah, right up my alley. But these days, I don't have enough brain cells to waste on complicated set-ups.

Mr Kram
Oct 6, 2010, 08:24 PM
you gotta start somewhere right? ATV wasn't always $99.

bigpatky
Oct 6, 2010, 08:25 PM
IR blasters are so 2002. Why can't HDMI devices talk to each other to change channels? They authenticate copy protection (HDCP).

they can if they're enabled. there are certain tvs that can be told to turn on/off through hdmi. i forget what it's called, though.

rkmac
Oct 6, 2010, 08:29 PM
you gotta start somewhere right? ATV wasn't always $99.

Yes, but NOW it is $99.
If they really want to compete, they cant be thinking in the past, they have to be ahead of the game, and a $299 price point is going to make this a very hard choice over some of the cheaper options out there at the moment.

dwd3885
Oct 6, 2010, 09:14 PM
Yes, but NOW it is $99.
If they really want to compete, they cant be thinking in the past, they have to be ahead of the game, and a $299 price point is going to make this a very hard choice over some of the cheaper options out there at the moment.

i generally agree with you. While Google TV is much more powerful and more feature-packed than Apple TV and even Roku, the $299 price will be difficult to overcome for some people.

Tor Eckman
Oct 6, 2010, 10:34 PM
No way that thing catches on... It costs too much, and it's too complicated.

Mr Kram
Oct 6, 2010, 10:35 PM
Yes, but NOW it is $99.
If they really want to compete, they cant be thinking in the past, they have to be ahead of the game, and a $299 price point is going to make this a very hard choice over some of the cheaper options out there at the moment.

i tend to agree, but google has brand recognition and like the apple fanboys (me included) i'm sure there are a lot of google (android) lovers.

gkarris
Oct 6, 2010, 11:01 PM
Wow, a hard sell at $299 compared to just using an old laptop... ;)

(or depending on what's on sale, a new one...LOL).

I was just at Comp USA and saw a Lenovo mini-esque with nVidia ION and a 160 Gig hard drive for $219...

dmr727
Oct 6, 2010, 11:02 PM
Yeah, the price is a problem for me. I bought an AppleTV because it was $99. For some reason, that price point makes an impulsive gadget buy a heck of a lot easier to do. At $299, I start trying to justify it, and until it'll allow me to cancel cable, the answer always seems to come back to 'no'.

But I welcome more options in the marketplace, and anything that moves me towards the possibility of giving the finger to my cable company is a good thing, IMO.

miTunes75
Oct 6, 2010, 11:14 PM
not impressed

gkarris
Oct 6, 2010, 11:20 PM
Someone in marketing did a search for AppleTV pricing and came up with this:

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/3306/

hence the "competitive price"... ;)

DanMacApple
Oct 6, 2010, 11:24 PM
I agree with others and think the price is too high with there being many options for less.

Microsaft
Oct 6, 2010, 11:45 PM
Google / Logitech may build whatever they want - will never be good enough for some people (here)...

When there is a remote that is useless for browsing - it's apple remote. you may be able to install apps n stuff in the future - but you will never get "the ultimate browsing experience" with apple tv.

ThisIsNotMe
Oct 6, 2010, 11:48 PM
you gotta start somewhere right? ATV wasn't always $99.

Yes, but the old AppleTV had an actual HD and other features.
The GoogleTV doesn't store any content locally.
You still need a cable service to make the product actually do something other than browse the web.
Other boxes have Amazone VOD and Netflix for well, 1/3 of the price.

mmomega
Oct 7, 2010, 12:28 AM
Google just wants their hobby device for 3 yrs then theyll drop the price, they usually follow apples lead right? I kid...
Make mine a 2010 PlexMini with a Harmony remote for everything in the room or just the Plex app on the iphone, ipad or ipod.

Do we still want more ways to put youtube on the television?

Mr Kram
Oct 7, 2010, 12:33 AM
Yes, but the old AppleTV had an actual HD and other features.
The GoogleTV doesn't store any content locally.
You still need a cable service to make the product actually do something other than browse the web.
Other boxes have Amazone VOD and Netflix for well, 1/3 of the price.

i don't disagree. see my other post.

BoulderBum
Oct 7, 2010, 01:15 AM
It's $299 + $149 for the web cam. Ouch!

I thought it sounded pretty enticing until I saw that. Now it's definitely out of "impulse buy" territory.

I still think that the immediate capability for apps gives them a leg up on Apple TV, however. It will be SO nice when Apple TV gets an app store.

spacepower7
Oct 7, 2010, 01:20 AM
Google / Logitech may build whatever they want - will never be good enough for some people (here)...

When there is a remote that is useless for browsing - it's apple remote. you may be able to install apps n stuff in the future - but you will never get "the ultimate browsing experience" with apple tv.

Browse the web on my TV....

Been there done that and it was horrible.

I have a MacBook and iPad to browse the web while I actually watch something on TV.

Microsaft
Oct 7, 2010, 03:39 AM
Been there done that and it was horrible.


Why? Whats's wrong with sitting on the couch and browsing the web on a big screen?

Mr Kram
Oct 7, 2010, 03:43 AM
Why? Whats's wrong with sitting on the couch and browsing the web on a big screen?

nothing. different strokes for different folks. i personally, don't get the appeal of browsing on the TV, but i guess others find it practical.

JAWWC
Oct 7, 2010, 03:59 AM
Does goole tv handle local content well? If at all that is. I've been looking at all of these boxes (Apple TV, Google, Roku, Popcorn Hour), and none of them seem to do content scraping for local content other than Boxee. But I really dislike boxee! Think I'm going to be going for a Revo eventually.

newagemac
Oct 7, 2010, 05:26 AM
Why? Whats's wrong with sitting on the couch and browsing the web on a big screen?

Because to put it simply, browsing the web on your iPad looks and works so much better.

Plus you aren't taking over the tv with text that others read at different speeds than you. How fast are you going to scroll down the screen? Are you going to stop and wait for others? It's not like video where everyone's eyes are able to view and process at basically the same speed. There are all sorts of practical reasons why this doesn't work better than keeping the browsing to a personal device like an iPad. You might think that email, twitter, or facebook on your tv is a good idea but no one wants to see your twitter account on the tv screen while they're trying to watch tv.

The reality is the only thing that's worth putting up on the tv screen and better than any other device at that is video and an iPad + Airplay is perfect for that. The solution is to have your iPad on the couch while browsing the web, searching for content, checking your facebook, twitter, etc. If you want some video to show on your big screen, just click a button. A keyboard style remote browsing and clicking to a tv screen 10 feet away will never beat that kind of ease of use, UI, and interaction.

Madmic23
Oct 7, 2010, 06:11 AM
I like the idea of IR blasters without the logitech google tv box. It means you can download their iphone app (look it up on the logitech webpage) and control all of my home theatre set up from my iPhone. My audio equipment doesn't have HDMI, and my TV doesn't allow control over HDMI, so the IR blaster is the only way to send these commands.

I think it's a great idea.

But yes, that price seems pretty steep.

bobr1952
Oct 7, 2010, 07:49 AM
I'll be interested to see what Sony does with Goggle TV in their Blu Ray box. :cool:

eq2675
Oct 7, 2010, 08:02 AM
Did you see the line that requires that you have "Cable or Satellite Set Top Box with HDMI out" at the bottom of the page?

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/smartTV/revue

This is NOT the product for me. I just dumped cable 4 months ago after 25 years of paying out the nose and will never look back. OTA digital and Apple TV 2.0 for me. Take that Comcast.

chapindad
Oct 7, 2010, 09:07 AM
$299 is too expensive to put on every TV in the house, $99 is not. Now if Apple would just open up Apps for the ATV2, then I would be in for 2 of them....

Mike Oxard
Oct 7, 2010, 09:21 AM
For $29 more you can get an :apple:TV and an iPod touch. Assuming the :apple:TV App store appears and AirPlay lives up to its expectations I think it'll be a much more appealing choice than this. Not having to have a computer keyboard lying around the living room is a major bonus for normal people, keyboards just scream "Geekboy" and other members of the family are afraid to use the system.

hcho3
Oct 7, 2010, 12:17 PM
I am actually Dish Network Customer and I could get one for 179 dollars. But, I still don't think I would want this for 179 dollars...

I am not trying to be cheap, but every box sets have netflix integration these days. Apple TV can handle music, photo and Video from my computer.

I can careless about DVR function. I don't store things anymore. I stream them.

Honestly, I am looking for a box set that I can ditch my network TV. Apple TV will handle pretty much everything google TV can do thru Air play. So, I don't understand why someone would pay 3 times more price for this.

APPS? WTF.... Google TV is not getting apps until 2011. Honestly, I don't think it will be too long before apple will release firmware update to support Apps on apple TV. Apple TV has 8GB storage and it can carry apps with built in A4 chip.

hcho3
Oct 7, 2010, 12:23 PM
$299 is too expensive to put on every TV in the house, $99 is not. Now if Apple would just open up Apps for the ATV2, then I would be in for 2 of them....

It's only a matter of time. Air play is just the beginning.