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SoarEyes
Aug 26, 2002, 01:25 PM
just curious..... any of you macheads do the warchalking thing yet?

for people that didn’t hear about it here’s a link:
http://www.blackbeltjones.com/warchalking/index2.html



Mr. Anderson
Aug 26, 2002, 01:40 PM
that's pretty cool - I'll have to look for the symbols now -

one good place is in front of the Apple Stores, you can usually get online within 50 feet of the store in Clarendon.

D

iGav
Aug 26, 2002, 02:05 PM
It's pretty easy in London.... there are atleast 2 Squares in London that I know of that in each corner of the Square, you can pick up different networks....... :eek:

edesignuk
Aug 26, 2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by iGAV
It's pretty easy in London.... there are atleast 2 Squares in London that I know of that in each corner of the Square, you can pick up different networks....... :eek:
But you'd never take advantage of that right ;) ;) :D

iGav
Aug 26, 2002, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by verbose101

But you'd never take advantage of that right ;) ;) :D

Never.... I'm a good boy........ ;) :) :D

Actually the only reason that I know they're there, is because one of my clients installed a full wireless network, and went to test how SECURE it was..... that's when they began picking up other peoples networks........

The scope though for wireless networks in cities is huge, the implications being that wireless internet connections could be offered in public places etc...... for someone like me, who spends a ton of time working in bars, parks, beaches etc..... it'd certainly make a difference to my work......

firewire2001
Aug 26, 2002, 04:34 PM
yeah.. ive heard of this before..

i think its pretty neat..

like others have said, the problem now with these 802-11b networks is how un-secure they are.. like i can pick up my neighbors network, and i dont have a base station... so i could do a lotta stufferz like hosting, downloading etc for free without effects on my network..

of course i dont do that ;)..

-f

sparkleytone
Aug 26, 2002, 04:42 PM
ummm from my experience its generally called wardriving.

Ensign Paris
Aug 26, 2002, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by firewire2001
yeah.. ive heard of this before..

i think its pretty neat..

like others have said, the problem now with these 802-11b networks is how un-secure they are.. like i can pick up my neighbors network, and i dont have a base station... so i could do a lotta stufferz like hosting, downloading etc for free without effects on my network..
-f

yes, but u can only do that if they haven't set up the security, I think it would be very hard to break 128-bit encryption, but I have never tried.

Ensign

cleo
Aug 26, 2002, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by sparkleytone
ummm from my experience its generally called wardriving.

Yeah... wardriving is when you're driving] around looking for signals; warchalking involves... well... chalk .

Duh.

noht*
Aug 27, 2002, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Ensign Paris


yes, but u can only do that if they haven't set up the security, I think it would be very hard to break 128-bit encryption, but I have never tried.

Ensign

no, it's not. Check this. (http://80211b.weblogger.com/weak.defense.html)
you can use AirSnort (http://airsnort.shmoo.com/) and break into any 802.11 network that does only rely on WEP and its inherently insecure RC4 encryption algorithm.
Solutions are to use a VPN via IPsec (or PPTP, which is IIRC not as secure as it's supposed to be) or to let users validate themselves with a private username and password, preferably via an encrypted protocol such as ssh, before they can do anything on that subnet.

just some thoughts

noht