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MythicFrost
Oct 18, 2010, 07:18 AM
Hi,

I've got an ATV (old), and two Macs which have home sharing enabled; with the remote app I was able to control them remotely and play movies/music, etc., on them, but how can I stream music from them to the iPad -- is that possible?



andymodem
Oct 18, 2010, 07:59 AM
Hi,

I've got an ATV (old), and two Macs which have home sharing enabled; with the remote app I was able to control them remotely and play movies/music, etc., on them, but how can I stream music from them to the iPad -- is that possible?

I use Zumocast, which is a free app to stream both music or video to an iPad or iPhone over wifi or 3G. Install the free app on your iPad, and there is a download from the website to install on your Macs and you're good to go.

abta1
Oct 18, 2010, 08:00 AM
I use Zumocast, which is a free app to stream both music or video to an iPad or iPhone over wifi or 3G. Install the free app on your iPad, and there is a download from the website to install on your Macs and you're good to go.

I use Zumocast too and it works a treat.

There is also the option of Airvideo which does the same thing but is a paid app.

MythicFrost
Oct 18, 2010, 08:01 AM
I use Zumocast, which is a free app to stream both music or video to an iPad or iPhone over wifi or 3G. Install the free app on your iPad, and there is a download from the website to install on your Macs and you're good to go.

I use Zumocast too and it works a treat.

There is also the option of Airvideo which does the same thing but is a paid app.
I see, thanks guys. I wonder why Apple doesn't offer this functionality? Maybe they will?

andymodem
Oct 18, 2010, 08:09 AM
I see, thanks guys. I wonder why Apple doesn't offer this functionality? Maybe they will?

The other nice part I forgot to mention, is you can go to the Zumocast website, and stream music/video from your computer to your browser wherever you are.

MythicFrost
Oct 18, 2010, 08:11 AM
The other nice part I forgot to mention, is you can go to the Zumocast website, and stream music/video from your computer to your browser wherever you are.
Ooh that is cool! That's really cool :D

MythicFrost
Oct 18, 2010, 08:28 AM
I've got it setup and I like it a lot... however, is there anyway to stream iTunes movies? They show a little lock on them... I'm guessing this is DRM?

EDIT: Yep :/

drewc1138
Oct 18, 2010, 04:08 PM
+1 for Zumocast. I was using AirVideo, but it's broken in 4.2.

Plus, it only does video, while Zumocast does audio, video and "other files", though I haven't messed around with the latter. Also, you can download the files over the network to your device for later listening or viewing (including non-mp4 files).

vastoholic
Oct 18, 2010, 05:22 PM
I thought airplay was supposed to do this, no?

looking at the site, I guess no.

Well then I used AirVideo but it can't give you an honest review cuz I never utilized very much at all.

Dr Kevorkian94
Oct 18, 2010, 05:48 PM
U could use the macs built in web server just stick a copy of your iTunes library in the site folder and u can acses any thing in your library by use of ur browser. Just search it in the form search to see how to set it up, I can't remember but I did it and it took me like 5 min. It is free with every Mac and works great!

MythicFrost
Oct 18, 2010, 07:22 PM
Thanks for your replies everyone,
+1 for Zumocast. I was using AirVideo, but it's broken in 4.2.

Plus, it only does video, while Zumocast does audio, video and "other files", though I haven't messed around with the latter. Also, you can download the files over the network to your device for later listening or viewing (including non-mp4 files).
Yeah, ZumoCast looks pretty good!
I thought airplay was supposed to do this, no?

looking at the site, I guess no.

Well then I used AirVideo but it can't give you an honest review cuz I never utilized very much at all.
Nah, AirPlay streams from an iDevice to Apple TV.
U could use the macs built in web server just stick a copy of your iTunes library in the site folder and u can acses any thing in your library by use of ur browser. Just search it in the form search to see how to set it up, I can't remember but I did it and it took me like 5 min. It is free with every Mac and works great!
I'm using ZumoCast at the moment and its great, however, I think I'd still run into the same problem with the DRM using the built in web server.

Dr Kevorkian94
Oct 18, 2010, 07:50 PM
Thanks for your replies everyone,

Yeah, ZumoCast looks pretty good!

Nah, AirPlay streams from an iDevice to Apple TV.

I'm using ZumoCast at the moment and its great, however, I think I'd still run into the same problem with the DRM using the built in web server.

Nope I watch iTunes bought south park all the time lol

spevin
Oct 18, 2010, 07:54 PM
zumocast is the best one and it's free.

you can't beat that

MythicFrost
Oct 18, 2010, 07:58 PM
Nope I watch iTunes bought south park all the time lol
Really? How is that possible? I'll look up the server thingy.

drewc1138
Oct 19, 2010, 01:59 PM
I'm using ZumoCast at the moment and its great, however, I think I'd still run into the same problem with the DRM using the built in web server.

You're going to run into the DRM problem until Apple releases something official. :D

fpnc
Oct 19, 2010, 02:48 PM
Dr Kevorkian94 is correct, on a Mac you can use Apple's built-in web sharing feature to stream video to the iPad/iPhone/iPod touch. It doesn't require any third-party apps or extensions on either the iPad or the Mac and it DOES work with DRM-protected iTunes Store content. In my hands, it also stream more reliably than any of the third-party apps that run on the iPad (such as AirVideo or StreamToMe). However, the user interface isn't as nice as in the custom-built apps and it does require some setup on the Mac in order to work (you need to create a shared folder and make certain that it links to your iTunes content). It also will not convert video on-th-fly as some of the apps do, the original file must be in a form that is compatible with the iPad.

Overall, if you just want to watch movies that are already in an iPad-compatible format then Mac OS X's web sharing is a good solution. However, it's not so good for short form video or music since it just plays one item and then stops (i.e. no playlist support or continuous -- automatic -- playback from multiple files).

MythicFrost
Oct 19, 2010, 03:48 PM
You're going to run into the DRM problem until Apple releases something official. :D
Mmm, yeah, I've hit that already :p
Dr Kevorkian94 is correct, on a Mac you can use Apple's built-in web sharing feature to stream video to the iPad/iPhone/iPod touch. It doesn't require any third-party apps or extensions on either the iPad or the Mac and it DOES work with DRM-protected iTunes Store content. In my hands, it also stream more reliably than any of the third-party apps that run on the iPad (such as AirVideo or StreamToMe). However, the user interface isn't as nice as in the custom-built apps and it does require some setup on the Mac in order to work (you need to create a shared folder and make certain that it links to your iTunes content). It also will not convert video on-th-fly as some of the apps do, the original file must be in a form that is compatible with the iPad.

Overall, if you just want to watch movies that are already in an iPad-compatible format then Mac OS X's web sharing is a good solution. However, it's not so good for short form video or music since it just plays one item and then stops (i.e. no playlist support or continuous -- automatic -- playback from multiple files).
All right, thanks. Am I able to connect to this web server from anywhere? I.E, even not on LAN?

fpnc
Oct 19, 2010, 07:55 PM
...Am I able to connect to this web server from anywhere? I.E, even not on LAN?
I've never read of anyone doing that -- streaming protected video over the internet using only Mac OS X's personal web sharing. It certainly won't happen by default. However, with changes to the firewall, a static IP, and some more network "magic" it might be possible.

It is, however, pretty easy to do over a local network.

MythicFrost
Oct 19, 2010, 07:58 PM
I've never read of anyone doing that -- streaming protected video over the internet using only Mac OS X's personal web sharing. It certainly won't happen by default. However, with changes to the firewall, a static IP, and some more network "magic" it might be possible.

It is, however, pretty easy to do over a local network.
Mmm, sounds too tricky for me. Maybe I could use an iPhone/iPad app which can connect to my Mac and just watch them that way :p

fpnc
Oct 19, 2010, 08:34 PM
Mmm, sounds too tricky for me. Maybe I could use an iPhone/iPad app which can connect to my Mac and just watch them that way :p
What's your upload speed from your ISP? Normally, uploads are a LOT slower than downloads. If so, then you're not going to get very good performance when trying to stream content out from you Mac at home and over the internet. For example, the last two ISPs I had only supported uploads at about 350Kbps, while my download speed over my cable modem was up to 20Mbps.

At 350Kbps video has to be HIGHLY compressed or at pretty low resolution (or both). It's certainly viewable, but the quality won't be anywhere near what it could be over a LAN connection.

MythicFrost
Oct 19, 2010, 08:40 PM
What's your upload speed from your ISP? Normally, uploads are a LOT slower than downloads. If so, then you're not going to get very good performance when trying to stream content out from you Mac at home and over the internet. For example, the last two ISPs I had only supported uploads at about 350Kbps, while my download speed over my cable modem was up to 20Mbps.

At 350Kbps video has to be HIGHLY compressed or at pretty low resolution (or both). It's certainly viewable, but the quality won't be anywhere near what it could be over a LAN connection.
Would the same apply to ZumoCast? If I used it remotely?

I have 128KB/s upload, 3.7MB/s download. How could I have it so I can stream my movies at a high download speed? I'd have to have them on the cloud entirely wouldn't I?

fpnc
Oct 19, 2010, 09:38 PM
Would the same apply to ZumoCast? If I used it remotely?

I have 128KB/s upload, 3.7MB/s download. How could I have it so I can stream my movies at a high download speed? I'd have to have them on the cloud entirely wouldn't I?
It would be the same on ZumoCast.

When you say "128KB/s" on upload are you talking bits or bytes (bits should be written as "b" while bytes use "B")? If you are really getting 128Kbps (i.e. bits per second) then you aren't going to get a very good video image when uploading over the internet.

MythicFrost
Oct 19, 2010, 10:25 PM
It would be the same on ZumoCast.

When you say "128KB/s" on upload are you talking bits or bytes (bits should be written as "b" while bytes use "B")? If you are really getting 128Kbps (i.e. bits per second) then you aren't going to get a very good video image when uploading over the internet.
Yes, I'm referring to bytes; I get 1Mb/s (128KB/s) up. Is that enough to provide good image quality? or not?

fpnc
Oct 19, 2010, 11:03 PM
Yes, I'm referring to bytes; I get 1Mb/s (128KB/s) up. Is that enough to provide good image quality? or not?
If you're getting 1Mbps on uploads then streaming video should work quite well. Standard definition content should look fine, but you won't be able to do good quality HD.

Cinab1mt
Oct 19, 2010, 11:45 PM
Could someone please compare and contrast AirVideo and Zumocast?

This is the first that I have heard of Zumocast and I generally dont like to have too many apps on both my MBP and my Ipad, so in this case, what does one do that the other doesnt? Thanks!

Zumo
Oct 21, 2010, 03:20 PM
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Zumo
Oct 21, 2010, 03:21 PM
Could someone please compare and contrast AirVideo and Zumocast?

This is the first that I have heard of Zumocast and I generally dont like to have too many apps on both my MBP and my Ipad, so in this case, what does one do that the other doesnt? Thanks!


The main differences between AirVideo and ZumoCast is this:

AirVideo is video only. So you will only have access to video files. If you want to access your videos outside your local LAN, you may run into issues if your router doesn't support it. ZumoCast has a proxy server feature that will automatically kick in if your router blocks you. ZumoCast also has web access where you can log into any PC and access your data from. AirVideo does have subtitle support, where ZumoCast doesn't. We are working on it though. Thanks again!

maximus96
Oct 21, 2010, 05:16 PM
does zumocast know to resume from where you last left off like airvideo?

that was the main reason i chose airvideo over orb because orb has no resume function.

thanks

Zumo
Oct 21, 2010, 05:48 PM
does zumocast know to resume from where you last left off like airvideo?

that was the main reason i chose airvideo over orb because orb has no resume function.

thanks

We do have resume functionality, but there are a parameters.

ZumoCast will resume if you are at least 30 seconds into the video, and if the video has more than 3 minutes remaining. In other words, for clips under 3 minutes, you will not have the resume feature. Any clip longer than three minutes, you will need to be 30 seconds into it before resume saves your spot, and once you reach the point where you have under 3 minutes remaning, resume goes away.

Hope this helps. Thanks!

MadeTheSwitch
Oct 26, 2010, 09:30 AM
The difference for me between AirVideo and Zumocast is one of quality. The video on AirVideo was much cleaner and looked really good while the Zumo one was a bit disappointing and pixelated. However, AirVideo only does video and Zumocast does music too which is what I needed and it is EXCELLENT for this purpose. So I'm pretty happy with it.

One thing that has annoyed me a bit is that I have an item in my finder under the "shared" section that shows my computer (I guess?? Not sure really. It shows Your-XXXXXXX where the x's equal a bunch of numbers and letters) but doesn't really give any info on what this entry is. I don't know which program has done that since I installed both the AirVideo server and Zumocast server (along with dropbox too) at all about the same time, but I don't like not knowing what something is like that. Especially when it is sharing something somewhere. Makes me uncomfortable.

Cinab1mt
Oct 27, 2010, 01:58 AM
The main differences between AirVideo and ZumoCast is this:

AirVideo is video only. So you will only have access to video files. If you want to access your videos outside your local LAN, you may run into issues if your router doesn't support it. ZumoCast has a proxy server feature that will automatically kick in if your router blocks you. ZumoCast also has web access where you can log into any PC and access your data from. AirVideo does have subtitle support, where ZumoCast doesn't. We are working on it though. Thanks again!



Thanks for all your help and info! Def will have to check it out!