Deer vs SUV (lots of gore)

[jadam]

Beware lots and lots of deer gore

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?threadid=777869&perpage=21&pagenumber=1

[Abstract]

Good lord, the deer isn't THAT big!!! :eek: Did he hit 2 or 3 deer? And how fast do you have to go to make a deer splatter like that? :rolleyes:

[tech4all]

Beware lots and lots of deer gore

Man you weren't joking! :eek: ewwww, that is so horrifying my mouth just dropped. Can a deer (or two, three?) cause that much damage and gore? :eek: < That smilie is exactly how I am right now, not jk. How the HECK did the "parts" get in the back of the car?!

[Spizzo]

WOW!!! Never seen a deer do that before. And I've seen deer get hit by much bigger vehicles than that.

[Chip NoVaMac]

That is just so weird. I too have seen deer hit by much larger vehicles, and never saw such carnage! I have to agree, just how fast was the SUV going?

[MacDawg]

Call me skeptical... but do we really know for sure that this is for real?

Looks to me like if you add up all of the body parts, blood, and guts you would have enough for a herd of deer.

Can't imagine why anyone would stage such a thing (and doesn't lend itself to Photoshop), but really, that's just too bizarre.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[Hoef]

Strange that the airbag didn't explode?

[Chip NoVaMac]

Strange that the airbag didn't explode?

In looking at the first photo, the bumper was not truly affected. And that is where AFAIK the airbag sensors are located.

It is looking like the SUV caught the deer in mid-flight, with the A pillar (I think that is what it is called) doing the "carving". It seems to support a very high rate of speed.

[MacDawg]

Strange that the airbag didn't explode?

I wondered about that too, and went back and looked at the bumper as Chip did. Seems to be plausible for the air bag.

But what about the driver? That can't be him in the first pic, he has no blood on him. So what happened to the driver. Judging by the devastation in the driver's seat, what kind of damage was done to him?

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[Chip NoVaMac]

I am assuming that the driver is pretty bad off. Though thoughts and prayers are with them and their family.

[pseudobrit]

Someone posted "did anyone eat the deer?"

I thought, yeah, the driver had about 5 pounds of venison launched down his throat on impact.

[Mantat]

First of all, I think we can all agree that the driver was driving probably over the limit.

But the thing that I find very strange is why the air bag never went on. Let me explain and anyone with any deer related experience will agree with me. The fact that the bumber isnt damaged can only be explained by, as stated before, he hurt the deer while it was hoping in the air. The thing is that this thing happened obviously at night and when a deer see a car at night it doesnt try to dodge it, its stares at the cars light and stop moving. This is why the first thing to do when you see a deer on the road is to slow down, turn off lights and blow the horn.

So, for the deer to be hurt like that, it means that the driver caught him by surprise, either there is a big curve ahead or he was driving too fast. Either way, he is partialy responsible for this accident: in deer infested area, you are supposed to drive slowly and safely, two things he totaly forgot. Or it was a very unlucky deer who hoped on the road right before the SUV passed.

Still, I hope he is well, even tho I doupt it... :-(

[Chip NoVaMac]

So, for the deer to be hurt like that, it means that the driver caught him by surprise, either there is a big curve ahead or he was driving too fast. Either way, he is partialy responsible for this accident: in deer infested area, you are supposed to drive slowly and safely, two things he totaly forgot. Or it was a very unlucky deer who hoped on the road right before the SUV passed.

Try doing this on I-81 in Virginia. Next to impossible to try and drive according to the "rules" and live to tell about it. Either the truckers will get you, or the other car drivers will.

[MacDawg]

I guess that just because the pics were taken at night doesn't mean that the accident was at night. Maybe it was still daylight, but by the time everyone got to the scene and pics were taken, it was dark.

For whatever reason, the deer was most likely airborn on impact.
Clearly the driver was moving fast to make the deer explode

Still, it doesn't all add up to me :rolleyes:
Snopes.com has another deer through the windshield (http://www.snopes.com/photos/durango.asp) that they have evaluated as true, but doesn't look anything like this one.

Dunno, I guess I'm still skeptical.
I'd like more details.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[gwuMACaddict]

bizzare... obviously driving too fast...

but i agree with what chipnovamac said earlier...

[Deefuzz]

Call me skeptical... but do we really know for sure that this is for real?

Looks to me like if you add up all of the body parts, blood, and guts you would have enough for a herd of deer.

Can't imagine why anyone would stage such a thing (and doesn't lend itself to Photoshop), but really, that's just too bizarre.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

That was my first thought as well. It doesn't add up, or seem possible, unless he hit one deer and two were already in his back seat and exploded...but why would someone stage that???

:confused:

[mkubal]

A few things.

How could the inside of the car be such a bloody mess and at the same time the deer be not missing much of its body and be fairly clean looking?

How could the deer have crushed the hood so severely and still have enough force to fly through the entire car?

And as someone posted on the site: How did blood get on the back of the seats? I suppose it would be possible with a decent ricochet.


The only way I could see this happening would be with multiple deer, which probably is likely. That or the mythbusters were doing a variation on the chicken cannon test.

[monkeydo_jb]

This was on page 2 of that thread:

Fake? no according to the source it happened in Waupaca County Wisconsin.

[Hemingray]

HOLY!!!!! That makes the Pulp Fiction car PALE in comparison...

[Abstract]

Well judging by the location of the hole in the windshield, the driver would have been dead simply due to impact with deer guts and blood. The only way the driver wouldn't have gotten hurt is if he leaned far towards the passenger seat to dodge the stuff.

:confused:

Abstract = skeptical of guts in the back seat as well. :o

[EJBasile]

A relitive of mine just yesterday totalled her Maxima by hitting a deer on the way home from work.

[Wyvernspirit]

If you keep reading the comments you would find out that a minivan in front of the SUV hit the dear and "flung" it into the air hitting the SUV. That should explain most of peoples questions about this.

[Wyvernspirit]

Originally posted by HypershockerU2
Fake? no according to the source it happened in Waupaca County Wisconsin.


Minivan struck a deer which flew into the air and was then struck by this Trailblazer.



That is from the comments.

[MacDawg]

If you keep reading the comments you would find out that a minivan in front of the SUV hit the dear and "flung" it into the air hitting the SUV. That should explain most of peoples questions about this.

That makes it that much more bizarre!

Would the driver have been going fast enough for this destruction and be right behind a minivan?? How fast was the minivan going then, and why didn't the deer explode there?

That's just a LOT of blood and guts. A LOT.
We're talking the back seat, and the cargo hold.

I've hit deer before, and seen many, many others where I live.
I've never seen one explode, ever.
Not saying it couldn't happen.

I didn't read the posts from the other forum.
Does it say anything about the herd of deer feeding on a broken case of dynamite on the side of the road before they were hit??

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[Chip NoVaMac]

A relitive of mine just yesterday totalled her Maxima by hitting a deer on the way home from work.

Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully she is OK.

[MacDawg]

Sorry, I know I've been joking about this, and someone *may* have been seriously injured or killed if it is real, but could some of the carnage in the vehicle have been from the driver?

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[Rower_CPU]

If you keep reading the comments you would find out that a minivan in front of the SUV hit the dear and "flung" it into the air hitting the SUV. That should explain most of peoples questions about this.

Count me among the skeptics. How are you going to have two clean halves of a deer after getting hit by two cars? I'd expect to see much more damage to the carcass, especially given the gore inside the SUV.

[edit - Plus, my years of watching CSI tells me to question the lack of voids in those shots. The rear seat should have nowhere near that much blood on it since it would have been blocked by the driver's seat.]

[Chip NoVaMac]

If you keep reading the comments you would find out that a minivan in front of the SUV hit the dear and "flung" it into the air hitting the SUV. That should explain most of peoples questions about this.

I think most of us were looking at the images, and did not pay much attention to the "details".

[MacDawg]

Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully she is OK.

I echo Chip's sentiments here.
Cars can be replaced, people can't... here's hoping she's OK.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[Chip NoVaMac]

Sorry, I know I've been joking about this, and someone *may* have been seriously injured or killed if it is real, but could some of the carnage in the vehicle have been from the driver?

Woof, Woof - Dawg

I hate to say it, but only if the pictures from the backseat to the rear are counted. I hope that there was only mild head trauma suffered by the driver.

Having friends and associates in various police departments, a run in with a deer is a very serious matter for the driver. Unfortunately resulting in deaths for the driver.

[MacDawg]

Count me among the skeptics. How are you going to have two clean halves of a deer after getting hit by two cars? I'd expect to see much more damage to the carcass, especially given the gore inside the SUV.

That's my thinking. If you have both halves of the deer outside the vehicle, where did all of the blood and guts come from? As I said before, add all the parts up, you have more than that deer.

That's why I wondered if the driver or passengers could have contributed to the blood and guts. I doubt it, but just wondering.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[Littleodie914]

Hmm... Not sure if I believe this one. Seems to be just way too much blood and... well... pieces :eek: I'm guessing it was staged... Unless this is a sneak preview of Kill Bill vol. 3... "When Deer Strike Back" ;) :D

[Chip NoVaMac]

Count me among the skeptics. How are you going to have two clean halves of a deer after getting hit by two cars? I'd expect to see much more damage to the carcass, especially given the gore inside the SUV.

[edit - Plus, my years of watching CSI tells me to question the lack of voids in those shots. The rear seat should have nowhere near that much blood on it since it would have been blocked by the driver's seat.]

Having spent a couple of years developing the negatives and prints for a local police department; you can only begin to dream about how some of the damage is inflicted in a accident or crime.

For even with science behind it (the CSI stuff), the chaos theory makes it hard to figure out just what happened.

Keep in mind Rower what we see in CSI (one of my favorite shows) is edited in such a way to make it enjoyable. Many parts (if by some accounts - most) are there for great theater.

{edit: Maybe we should send this off to the writers of CSI to give a resolution? Or better yet maybe one of MR members in Wisc. could get a report on the accident so that we can see what the final finding were.}

[iceTrX]

If you look it looks like a lot of the blood on the drivers seat and back of the vehicle was from it dripping from the top of the TrailBlazer (yuck). It also looks like the rear window on the left shattered, this makes me believe something hit the side window rather hard (like bone or a large organ). It makes sense that the side window would shatter like that as side windows are designed to shatter into tiny bits without a huge impact. The reason is to make the shrapnel from the window less harmful and make it easier to break the window and escape the vehicle if its submerged in water. Also if you look at the front and rear half of the deer, you can clearly see that most of the middle section is missing, this is what is spread out inside the vehicle.

[Deefuzz]

Count me among the skeptics. How are you going to have two clean halves of a deer after getting hit by two cars? I'd expect to see much more damage to the carcass, especially given the gore inside the SUV.


my thoughts exactly

[Chip NoVaMac]

It is beginning to look like many of us here on MR are CSI fans. :D

[MacDawg]

If you look it looks like a lot of the blood on the drivers seat and back of the vehicle was from it dripping from the top of the TrailBlazer (yuck). It also looks like the rear window on the left shattered, this makes me believe something hit the side window rather hard (like bone or a large organ). It makes sense that the side window would shatter like that as side windows are designed to shatter into tiny bits without a huge impact. The reason is to make the shrapnel from the window less harmful and make it easier to break the window and escape the vehicle if its submerged in water. Also if you look at the front and rear half of the deer, you can clearly see that most of the middle section is missing, this is what is spread out inside the vehicle.

Even accounting for a healthy chunk of midsection, most of which is hanging from the headliner and draped over the steering wheel, there is way too much "stuff" everywhere for me to be a believer right now.

And based on impact with the windshield, driver(?), etc., how does so much of it end up all of the way back in the cargo hold?

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[Wyvernspirit]

I have a a posible solution to the mess:

The dear was hit by the minivan was caused it to go airborne and hit the suv on the hood. The dear then slammed into the windshield. The impact against the windshield somehow caused the body to shear and the back half was thrown through the vehicle. Do to the force of the hit, the entire contents of its blood were squeesed from the front half of the carcass like a juicer spraying the insides, while the back half flew through depositing its contens in the car.

Something like this would explain the blood in the car and none around the dear parts outside.

The lack of a blood void on the seats is because much of the blood came from the roof falling onto the seats after the initial hit.

Just a theory. Don't bet me on it. :)

[iceTrX]

I have a a posible solution to the mess:

The dear was hit by the minivan was caused it to go airborne and hit the suv on the hood. The dear then slammed into the windshield. The impact against the windshield somehow caused the body to shear and the back half was thrown through the vehicle. Do to the force of the hit, the entire contents of its blood were squeesed from the front half of the carcass like a juicer spraying the insides, while the back half flew through depositing its contens in the car.

Something like this would explain the blood in the car and none around the dear parts outside.

The lack of a blood void on the seats is because much of the blood came from the roof falling onto the seats after the initial hit.

Just a theory. Don't bet me on it. :)

This could explain one of the rear windows being shattered. The deer could of been thrown into the vehicle and cut in half by the windshield causing the deer to "explode". The other half of the deer could of went out the rear window causing it to shatter. If that is how it happened, I can easily believe how all that blood got in the vehicle.

[Wyvernspirit]

This could explain one of the rear windows being shattered. The deer could of been thrown into the vehicle and cut in half by the windshield causing the deer to "explode". The other half of the deer could of went out the rear window causing it to shatter. If that is how it happened, I can easily believe how all that blood got in the vehicle.

You'll notice that the two "halves" are not close to each other.

[MacDawg]

So we are to believe that the deer was hit twice, went airborne, hit the front and the hood of the car behind, smashed through the windshield, was cut in half, spilled its guts everywhere, and still managed to blast through the rear window?

OK :rolleyes:

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[wdlove]

The pictures are quit devastating. I just hope that it was a quick death for the deer. I'm another one of those CSI fans. Any thing medical really intrigues me, since I'm a nurse. I also wonder about the condition of the driver. :(

[iceTrX]

So we are to believe that the deer was hit twice, went airborne, hit the front and the hood of the car behind, smashed through the windshield, was cut in half, spilled its guts everywhere, and still managed to blast through the rear window?

OK :rolleyes:

Woof, Woof - Dawg

yes. It could be possible?

[sushi]

I've never seen one explode, ever.
It looks like the deer struck midbody on the pilar which cut him in half and ripped open his organ sack. Since all the organs reside there, the spray pattern and body parts make sense.

FWIW, I once his a bat while flying a OH-58 while flying under googles. Just a little tiny bat. However, the whole side of the aircraft was smeared with blood and little body parts. Not sure when we hit him. For most of the flight we flew around 100mph. We could not believe the carnage pattern that resulted from the tiny bat but there was blood and guts all over the side of the aircraft from the initial hit point until the tail. We were flying the flat screen version and he hit on the right side at the top. There was no blood or body parts outside of the spray pattern.

Sushi

[jayscheuerle]

I'd say the first hit was fairly blunt, knocking the deer into the air. Its body was whole when striking the windshield/front pillar. The upper body hit the pillar at the chest (head facing into the street), the lower legs/belly hitting and breaking the windshield while slicing the stomach open. The force of the trauma alone stopped the deer's skeletal body, but the bowels, no longer contained, continued on their high-speed journey straight through the hole in the windshield. As the upper body slid past the pillar, the pillar acted like a filleting knife, shearing the guts out in their entirety into the vehicle until it ran into the pelvis, which caught the edge and snapped the spine/sliced the last of the fur, but not before flinging the upper body around and into the side window, blasting all the glass into the car.

From the pictures, you can tell that the animal has no guts remaining and its spine snapped just above the pelvis. You can also tell from the lines in the road and the grass, that the deer's upper body was tossed further left towards the road and the lower body was tossed towards the grass, supporting the conclusion that the upper body passed by the driver's pillar.

A 160 lb. man has about 5 quarts of blood in his body.

During a recent armed robbery case which I was a juror on, the judge, after we rendered a hung jury, explained that shows like CSI are a problem for courts because they unrealistically portray the amount of conclusive evidence most crimes have, leading people to believe that a reasonable doubt isn't enough, that cases have to be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Real? It's real nasty...

[MacDawg]

I've seen the damage caused by bird strikes on commercial aircraft.

But this was an SUV, not an F16.
Looking at the damage to the front end, and the hood, as well as the windshield... I just can't comprehend what are portrayed as the results.

So, anybody care to estimate the speed of the vehicle then?
How fast would it have to be traveling to achieve this result.
Remember, he had to be close enough behind the mini van in front of him to catch the airborne deer before it hit the ground.

Pretty darn fast I'd say.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

Don't get me wrong... I can't imagine a scenario of why or how anyone would stage such a thing either.

[The Exile]

Strange that the airbag didn't explode?

For the airbag to deploy the vehicle must hit zero. Like when you hit a wall the vehicle stops. But when you hit a deer the deer stops. And apparently splits in half.

[Daveway]

Yea, my dad and I hit a deer in his F-150 while in MS. awhile back. Ended up totaling his whole front end and we were 150-miles from home. We never did find the deer. We've heard this is very common and you have to put supersonic whistlers on your car. I've read in the paper many times of people in cars being killed like this. I wish I had the pictures we took.

[jayscheuerle]

We've heard this is very common and you have to put supersonic whistlers on your car..

Might make the car look cooler, but that's about it... ;)

Deer whistle effectiveness. (http://www.news.uconn.edu/2002/nov2002/rel02112.htm)

Electric Hornet? (http://www.detnews.com/2003/commuting/0311/21/b06-322863.htm)

[pseudobrit]

I'll drop my normal skepticism and venture that this is real, simply because I've seen an array of traffic-accident photos before and this seems reasonably within the realm of possible.

No one's ventured the possibility that the inside photos are staged while the outside photos are real.

[MacDawg]

No one's ventured the possibility that the inside photos are staged while the outside photos are real.

A distinct possibility, but again, that begs the question of why, other than just 'cause it would be cool to send it all over the 'net. Hmmm, guess that's the reason for lots of stuff.

The outside does look plausible, but again, the inside is unlike any deer crash I've ever seen or even heard about.

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[PlaceofDis]

i think what we are all missing is that these pictures were taken well after the accident, the pieces of the deer are on the ground, yet there is little or no blood where they are laying

for all we know the deer's body remained on the car for much longer than it appears and could have cause much more damage to the interior that way

for all we know half of the deer could have made it throught the windsheild and cause the mess in the back which would explain why the deer is torn in half and the spayed blood all over as well

the pictures could have been taken after the deer's body was moved, probably were, in an attempt to remove the passengers from the car

[Mechcozmo]

Count me among the skeptics. How are you going to have two clean halves of a deer after getting hit by two cars? I'd expect to see much more damage to the carcass, especially given the gore inside the SUV.

[edit - Plus, my years of watching CSI tells me to question the lack of voids in those shots. The rear seat should have nowhere near that much blood on it since it would have been blocked by the driver's seat.]

I agree here.

It is beginning to look like many of us here on MR are CSI fans. :D

Yeah, I am...


For the airbag to deploy the vehicle must hit zero. Like when you hit a wall the vehicle stops.
No, it doesn't. Airbags go off when a car is on the freeway quite often. And those cars are going 55 MPH+. And if a car hits a wall and then skids to the side, the airbags still go off. If a car rolls over, the airbags go off.

I disagree with you...

[sushi]

Reference blood not being on the two major portions of the carcus.

I have seen a military safety presentation concerning a motorcycle accident.

In a nutshell, the rider crashed into the back of a tandem dual wheel truck where he was skinned by the tires. All his organs and body parts were strewn over a 100-150 foot path. Yet there was very little blood on the road or his body parts.

Basically, his skin and blood were all around one set of tires.

So in the case of this accident, it makes perfect sense not to see blood on the two big deer parts.

Sushi

[Rower_CPU]

Reference blood not being on the two major portions of the carcus.

I have seen a military safety presentation concerning a motorcycle accident.

In a nutshell, the rider crashed into the back of a tandem dual wheel truck where he was skinned by the tires. All his organs and body parts were strewn over a 100-150 foot path. Yet there was very little blood on the road or his body parts.

Basically, his skin and blood were all around one set of tires.

So in the case of this accident, it makes perfect sense not to see blood on the two big deer parts.

Sushi

After hitting two cars? I can see it after a direct hit, but not the "magic deer" theory that has been put forth as the explanation.

[jamdr]

Accidents like this just make me sick. I think we, as human beings, need to put some serious thought into how much destruction we are causing with our insatiable desire to industrialize the world. We are destroying ourselves with the amount of pollution we send up into the atmosphere every day, we are driving hundreds of other species to extinction though hunting and contaminating their habitats, and we are just simply making this world an ugly place to live in.

[EJBasile]

Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully she is OK.


Yea she just hurt her back a little bit from the impact.

I also know someone who was going down the highway with an expedition towing a uhal trailer and a deer ran out hit the side of expedition and flew up and backwards and hit the triler- denting both the car and almost ruining the uhal.
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That picture looks very unreal or something- that dear was cut pretty cleanly so how did all of that blood get in the car like that- since the deer was in pretty good condition it rules out explosion (except if there were more). The only thing that I can think of it the deer went up onto the hood- through the windshield- through the car and out the back lol. If those pics are real thats both amazing and discusting.

[The Exile]

No, it doesn't. Airbags go off when a car is on the freeway quite often. And those cars are going 55 MPH+. And if a car hits a wall and then skids to the side, the airbags still go off. If a car rolls over, the airbags go off.

I disagree with you...

I am sorry I don't want to be rude or anything but I do know that the ball sensor in cars can only trigger the front airbags when the ball comes of the seat and hits the contacts. The ball is in a tube and can only go in the forward direction. The G-Force from driving at 55 then hitting an object big enough to put you to a stop will knock this ball off its seat into the contacts, igniting the airbags. Not all sensors are in the bumper of the vehicle some are on the fender well. So what really matters is the force of which it is hit. I'm sorry but a deer does not have big enough force to stop that SUV. Oh and rolling a car sideways will not ignite the front airbags. I rolled my truck, the airbag did not ignite.

[Dr. Dastardly]

If the insurance company doesn't deem it as totaled I wonder if they will pay to get it detailed. :p

Wonder how much that would be.

[The Exile]

Accidents like this just make me sick. I think we, as human beings, need to put some serious thought into how much destruction we are causing with our insatiable desire to industrialize the world. We are destroying ourselves with the amount of pollution we send up into the atmosphere every day, we are driving hundreds of other species to extinction though hunting and contaminating their habitats, and we are just simply making this world an ugly place to live in.

Oh yeah. Hunting is population control so that you don't have more deer jumping all over the place. Sometimes the animals can damage the land and other species more then we, as human beings, do.

[comictimes]

The pictures are quit devastating. I just hope that it was a quick death for the deer.
things generally die quite quickly after being sheared in half. Conckroaches are a nasty exception to this rule.

[virividox]

that is just scary gross

[jayscheuerle]

No explosion of guts here... (http://www.snopes.com/photos/durango.asp)

[MacDawg]

No explosion of guts here... (http://www.snopes.com/photos/durango.asp)

Sorry Jay, I posted that early on in post #14 of this thread. :o

But I agree

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[jayscheuerle]

Sorry Jay, I posted that early on in post #14 of this thread. :o

But I agree

Woof, Woof - Dawg

ugh... The only thing slower than my day at work is the brain in my head... :D

[pseudobrit]

I am sorry I don't want to be rude or anything but I do know that the ball sensor in cars can only trigger the front airbags when the ball comes of the seat and hits the contacts. The ball is in a tube and can only go in the forward direction. The G-Force from driving at 55 then hitting an object big enough to put you to a stop will knock this ball off its seat into the contacts, igniting the airbags. Not all sensors are in the bumper of the vehicle some are on the fender well. So what really matters is the force of which it is hit. I'm sorry but a deer does not have big enough force to stop that SUV. Oh and rolling a car sideways will not ignite the front airbags. I rolled my truck, the airbag did not ignite.

The moment of interia required to deploy the airbags needn't be a force that would stop the car entirely.

Further, if airbags were only to deploy when "vehicle must hit zero" there'd be no reason for them. By the time the vehicle stops, the damage is already done.

[jackieonasses]

I just hope the deer made it out okay....



*that was complete joking*

[cheekyspanky]

Poor deer.

As for the airbag not going off..have a look at http://www.renaulttv.co.uk/main.php and select on the right hand side "Espace Crash Test" The black Espace's airbag doesn't go off after that accident - and that was after hitting another car.

Airbags only go off if the sensors figure that the airbag is going to help you in the accident. Thats why in a roll over they won't go off (except maybe the side/roof airbags).

[Mechcozmo]

I have seen a military safety presentation concerning a motorcycle accident.

In a nutshell, the rider crashed into the back of a tandem dual wheel truck where he was skinned by the tires. All his organs and body parts were strewn over a 100-150 foot path. Yet there was very little blood on the road or his body parts.

Basically, his skin and blood were all around one set of tires.


How much did that guy get paid? ;) How did it get filmed?


The G-Force from driving at 55 then hitting an object big enough to put you to a stop will knock this ball off its seat into the contacts, igniting the airbags. Not all sensors are in the bumper of the vehicle some are on the fender well. So what really matters is the force of which it is hit. I'm sorry but a deer does not have big enough force to stop that SUV. Oh and rolling a car sideways will not ignite the front airbags. I rolled my truck, the airbag did not ignite.

Alright, that's fine. I was more arguing with the fact that you said the airbags would go after after the vehicle hit zero velocity, which isn't the point of safety device like an airbag. And if you hit something in front of you that caused your truck to roll, the airbags might/not have gone off.

The moment of interia required to deploy the airbags needn't be a force that would stop the car entirely.

Further, if airbags were only to deploy when "vehicle must hit zero" there'd be no reason for them. By the time the vehicle stops, the damage is already done.

That's what I'm trying to say... you're better with the words, it would seem.

[sushi]

How much did that guy get paid? ;)
Not enough! :eek:

How did it get filmed?
Typical accident investigation pictures input into a PowerPoint presentation.

Sushi

[sushi]

Typical accident investigation pictures input into a PowerPoint presentation.
It had been a while since I saw the presentation.

Just found my copy on the computer. Kind of like an anatomy lesson.

Truck - 1

Motorcycle Rider - 0

Sushi

[Aeolius]

Accidents like this just make me sick...

It helps to think of deer as the Australians see kangaroos... giant rats. ;) At any rate, for your enjoyment, some photos from my backyard, of deer in a more serene setting. DeerCam (http://www.aeolius.com/deercam)

[Mechcozmo]

Truck - 1

Motorcycle Rider - 0

Sushi

Wanna post it? :p
Somehow, "sushi" won't describe what that guy looked like, right? ;)
I wonder if the donercycle rider can make it up in the second half... oh wait... nevermind...

[sushi]

Wanna post it? :p
Somehow, "sushi" won't describe what that guy looked like, right? ;)
I wonder if the donercycle rider can make it up in the second half... oh wait... nevermind...
Definitely not for the faint of heart.

Notice I didn't say that about the deer accident which should give you some insight.

I might consider sending it to someone to host. Anybody interested?

Sushi

[wdlove]

No explosion of guts here... (http://www.snopes.com/photos/durango.asp)

Still just as sad and scary as the original pictures. This one just isn't as gross. :( :eek:

[EGT]

I read a report in last wednesdays Daily Express (UK) about a Cow vs B737! :eek:

Pic1 (http://aapimage.com/fotoweb/imagepreview.fwx?SubmitURL=/fotoweb/imagestextview.fwx&FolderID=5000&Search=(IPTC187%20contains(B8E9FF17D0C047E1%20A85325A3E82A94AE))&Search1=(IPTC103%20contains(AJE110))&Cat=)

PIc2 (http://aapimage.com/fotoweb/imagepreview.fwx?SubmitURL=/fotoweb/imagestextview.fwx&FolderID=5000&Search=(IPTC187%20contains(A8F4E7AE4A7A4B9A%20B7110AE1231C5ACA))&Search1=(IPTC103%20contains(BM103))&Cat=)

Pic3 (http://aapimage.com/fotoweb/imagepreview.fwx?SubmitURL=/fotoweb/imagestextview.fwx&FolderID=5000&Search=(IPTC187%20contains(8A89ECCCBE044683%20ADAA88BED7C8742B))&Search1=(IPTC103%20contains(BM102))&Cat=)

[MacDawg]

Wow... a B737 runs over a herd of cows...

And there isn't near the blood, carnage and damage
as there was in the deer pics! :D

Go figure!

Woof, Woof - Dawg

[Pittsax]

I don't know about those pics. The blood looks really fake to me.

[Chip NoVaMac]

I read a report in last wednesdays Daily Express (UK) about a Cow vs B737! :eek:

Pic1 (http://aapimage.com/fotoweb/imagepreview.fwx?SubmitURL=/fotoweb/imagestextview.fwx&FolderID=5000&Search=(IPTC187%20contains(B8E9FF17D0C047E1%20A85325A3E82A94AE))&Search1=(IPTC103%20contains(AJE110))&Cat=)

PIc2 (http://aapimage.com/fotoweb/imagepreview.fwx?SubmitURL=/fotoweb/imagestextview.fwx&FolderID=5000&Search=(IPTC187%20contains(A8F4E7AE4A7A4B9A%20B7110AE1231C5ACA))&Search1=(IPTC103%20contains(BM103))&Cat=)

Pic3 (http://aapimage.com/fotoweb/imagepreview.fwx?SubmitURL=/fotoweb/imagestextview.fwx&FolderID=5000&Search=(IPTC187%20contains(8A89ECCCBE044683%20ADAA88BED7C8742B))&Search1=(IPTC103%20contains(BM102))&Cat=)

And they thought the problem was planes running into a flock of birds. :D (Before I get flamed, I know how serious bird strikes on an aircraft are.)