5870 : Finally readily available for 2006-2010 users.... Hallelujah!!!

[ildondeigiocchi]

It's almost four months since the Mac Pro was refreshed and that Apple decided to offer a 5870 upgrade option for 2009 Mac Pro users on its website. However, tests by barefeats have shown that it works on the entire lineup of Mac Pros (2006-2009). However, it seems that Apple is sleeping on the idea of making this card available to us. I love Apple as a company but to have to wait four months for a graphics card which has already been on the market since 2009 is ridiculous to say the least. Please fill out this poll to put pressure on Apple to make the 5870's status on the Apple Store go from "Currently Unavailable" to "Ships Within 24hrs"


UPDATE (08/11 @ 8:30 PM) : It seems that users were able to purchase the 5870 from Macpartsonline who has it in limited quantity and nearly 100$ over retail price. However, when one consumer received the card, the wrong installation guide was supplied (4870 instead of 5870) and only one 6-pin power connector was supplied. What can we take from this? Well maybe the slowdown has been due to the mispackaging of the product. All Apple Stores still have the 5870 listed as "Currently Unavailable".

Update 06/11 : As posted on another macrumors thread, it seems that you can now purchase the 5870. However, Apple does not provide information on shipping info of the product. So I guess this has now turned to a bitter-sweet situation but things seem to be moving in the right direction.

UPDATE (08/11 @ 6:52 PM): On the phone with Apple's corporate office in California trying to see when these things will actually ship.... Apparently Apple has no record of the order I placed on the Apple Store!!!:confused::confused:

UPDATE: IT SEEMS THAT FOR MANY USERS DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE DID PLACE AN ORDER ON THE APPLE STORE ... IT IS STILL PROCESSING AND THAT IS WHY APPLE HAS NOT RECEIVED IT. AFTER THE FRUSTRATION OF MY FIRST CALL WHERE I WAS TOLD THAT APPLE DOESN'T KNOW WHEN OR IF THEY WILL SHIP THE 5870, I CALLED THE CANADIAN APPLE STORE AND SPOKE TO A SENIOR APPLE ADVISOR. HE WAS VERY NICE AND SAID THAT THE WAITING TIME HAS DEFINITELY BEEN RIDICULOUS AND THAT SINCE HE HAS A BOARD MEETING TODAY HE WOULD BRING UP THE ISSUE WITH THE 5870 AND CALL ME TO KEEP ME POSTED.... SO WE SHALL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. :rolleyes:

MAJOR UPDATE (11/11 @ 2:00PM): JUST RECEIVED ORDER CONFIRMATION FROM APPLE.... ORDER WILL SHIP DEC. 22 AND RECEIVED DEC. 28 WITH EXPEDITED SHIPPING. I ORDERED MINE ON THE SECOND DAY IT BECAME AVAILABLE SO THEY SHOULD START SHIPPING AS OF DEC. 21 AS MANY OTHERS HAVE SAID :eek: BITTERSWEET MOMENT BUT AT LEAST THEY WILL SHIP :D

UPDATE (NOV 12): THE 5870 NOW SHIPS WITHIN 24 HOURS. IT'S ABOUT F***N TIME!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
LINK:http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MC743ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MTg2OTU0NTI

[ventro]

Once we hit 1000 we should all send it to Steve

[Justinf79]

Yeah, it's been rather frustrating to say the least. :(

[galstaph]

maybe they forgot they added it to the store or to simply place the order for them.... then again maybe they think the 5770 is good enough for those of us who aren't buying the 2010 mp

[RebootD]

maybe they forgot they added it to the store or to simply place the order for them.... then again maybe they think the 5770 is good enough for those of us who aren't buying the 2010 mp

And now the 5770 is listed as 1-2 weeks.. so we have zero upgrades to choose from currently. This is ridiculous.

[wirelessmacuser]

It's almost four months since the Mac Pro was refreshed and that Apple decided to offer a 5870 upgrade option for 2009 Mac Pro users on its website. However, tests by barefeats have shown that it works on the entire lineup of Mac Pros (2006-2009). However, it seems that Apple is sleeping on the idea of making this card available to us. I love Apple as a company but to have to wait four months for a graphics card which has already been on the market since 2009 is ridiculous to say the least. Please fill out this poll to put pressure on Apple to make the 5870's status on the Apple Store go from "Currently Unavailable" to "Ships Within 24hrs"

Apples computers are secondary on their list of priorities. Currently they're in the profit taking mode. The recent intro of the new MBA revealed a migration of all devices destined to be locked into Apples iTunes money machine.

[iWolf00]

I guess apple doesn't care about MP and professional market. I don't like waiting and I have waited enough; I am not certain about my decision, when I bought my MP :( sometime I feel it was the right choice; Most of the time I feel it wasn't after I see how apple treat Pro segment. :mad:

Will Pc card work in Mac; Will the new ATI 6 series work on Mac OSX; I start to think about the ATI 6970 when it is released; Is there anyone looking for a to install and flash PC ATI 6970 at APPLE Mac Pro...

My MP is Volunteer! :D

[ildondeigiocchi]

I guess apple doesn't care about MP and professional market. I don't like waiting and I have waited enough; I am not certain about my decision, when I bought my MP :( sometime I feel it was the right choice; Most of the time I feel it wasn't after I see how apple treat Pro segment. :mad:

Will Pc card work in Mac; Will the new ATI 6 series work on Mac OSX; I start to think about the ATI 6970 when it is released; Is there anyone looking for a to install and flash PC ATI 6970 at APPLE Mac Pro...

My MP is Volunteer! :D

The ATI Radeon 6000 series of cards is currently unable to be used in Mac OSX since there aren't drivers for the cards. Plus the 5870 is superior than the 6870.

[umgoblue2008]

The ATI Radeon 6000 series of cards is currently unable to be used in Mac OSX since there aren't drivers for the cards. Plus the 5870 is superior than the 6870.

The 6870 is marginally slower than 5870 as shown by early benchmarks, draws less power, and less noise. And, its about 200$ cheaper than the 5870. Too bad it won't be available for mac until next year.

If you want speed, wait for 6970. Either way they will only work under bootcamp with Mac Pro, not OSX

[Pressure]

The ATI Radeon 6000 series of cards is currently unable to be used in Mac OSX since there aren't drivers for the cards. Plus the 5870 is superior than the 6870.

The 6870 is marginally slower than 5870 as shown by early benchmarks, draws less power, and less noise. And, its about 200$ cheaper than the 5870. Too bad it won't be available for mac until next year.

If you want speed, wait for 6970. Either way they will only work under bootcamp with Mac Pro, not OSX

Actually, there are drivers for the Radeon HD 6000 series in Snow Leopard 10.6.5 beta but no EFI on the cards to initiate it under Mac OS X.

[semaca]

C'mon Steve!You wanna sell that card or not?If not,take it off the site and stop keeping us waiting forever .
Semaca

[Topper]

If you want speed, wait for 6970.

That I am.
I'll use the 5870 for OS X and the 6970 for Bootcamp.
If I can do it, I'd really like to use the 6990 for Bootcamp.
.

[goMac]

Actually, there are drivers for the Radeon HD 6000 series in Snow Leopard 10.6.5 beta but no EFI on the cards to initiate it under Mac OS X.

Iiiiiiinnnnteresting.

If the 6X00 series is not a huge difference, I still stand by my thought that perhaps we could see the 6000 series come to Mac as well. Honestly, this might be a decision that ATI made instead of Apple, if ATI wanted to stop producing the 5870.

[Cynicalone]

It's damn stupid. I don't really understand why they even bothered to add them to the store.

I have an 09 Mac Pro, I would love the option to upgrade the 4870 without all the hackery of flashing a PC card.

[ildondeigiocchi]

It's damn stupid. I don't really understand why they even bothered to add them to the store.

I have an 09 Mac Pro, I would love the option to upgrade the 4870 without all the hackery of flashing a PC card.

Honestly it's as if they're teasing us :(

[iWolf00]

The ATI Radeon 6000 series of cards is currently unable to be used in Mac OSX since there aren't drivers for the cards. Plus the 5870 is superior than the 6870.

I clearly mentioned ATI 6970 as an upgrade for Mac because it will be the flagship of ATI. The ati 6990 will be awesome, but apple will never offer it in MP.

That I am.
I'll use the 5870 for OS X and the 6970 for Bootcamp.
If I can do it, I'd really like to use the 6990 for Bootcamp.
.

Your idea suite me; but instead; I won't upgrade for 5870 because it always stated as unavailable!



I have an 09 Mac Pro, I would love the option to upgrade the 4870

Now I understand why apple isn't willing to upgrade their GPU regularly!!

[NexusEclipse]

After much waiting it looks like the supply partners are starting to get it. Apple stores in Manhattan don't carry but Apple redirected me to TekServe who had one (I pre ordered back in September). They actually had the wrong sticker on the box but opened it for me to confirm the right product. Runs great and no issues thus far. IMO dont bother with the apple website and try ordering from some of their partners (I believe J&R here in manhattan also sells the graphics upgrade kits).

Hope this helps

[ildondeigiocchi]

After much waiting it looks like the supply partners are starting to get it. Apple stores in Manhattan don't carry but Apple redirected me to TekServe who had one (I pre ordered back in September). They actually had the wrong sticker on the box but opened it for me to confirm the right product. Runs great and no issues thus far. IMO dont bother with the apple website and try ordering from some of their partners (I believe J&R here in manhattan also sells the graphics upgrade kits).

Hope this helps

Sadly I live in Canada so even if they did have it I wouldn't be able to buy it. However, after having spoken to one of their sales agents, I was told that Apple told them that they would be more readily available by the end of October. All I can say is that every day that goes by patience gets thinner. I just don't understand :apple: , the demand for the 5870 is big so I don't get why it's taking so long for them to put it on the market :confused:

[RebootD]

After much waiting it looks like the supply partners are starting to get it. Apple stores in Manhattan don't carry but Apple redirected me to TekServe who had one (I pre ordered back in September). They actually had the wrong sticker on the box but opened it for me to confirm the right product. Runs great and no issues thus far. IMO dont bother with the apple website and try ordering from some of their partners (I believe J&R here in manhattan also sells the graphics upgrade kits).

Hope this helps

It says available for preorder but at least they have the 5770 in stock :D

[Transporteur]

It says available for preorder but at least they have the 5770 in stock :D


Well yes, but for twice the price of a PC version. No thanks!

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally willing to pay a little extra for a Mac compatible card, but not a 100%, that's a rip-off, nothing more.

They don't charge that much extra for the 5870, why for the 5770 then?

[RebootD]

Well yes, but for twice the price of a PC version. No thanks!

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally willing to pay a little extra for a Mac compatible card, but not a 100%, that's a rip-off, nothing more.

They don't charge that much extra for the 5870, why for the 5770 then?

The smiley face was to show I was kidding. I actually debated getting the 5770 just to have something other than my GT120 but the price inflation is crazy. Sure the 5870 is 2x as much but it's only 20% more than its PC variants.

[reel2reel]

It'd be nice if the damned cards would even work properly in the new Mac Pro's. :rolleyes:

[Ricko101]

What do you guys think about these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Apple-Mac-Pro-ATI-Radeon-HD5870-1GB-PCIe-Video-Card-/270651029201?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3f040ef6d1

[goMac]

What do you guys think about these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Apple-Mac-Pro-ATI-Radeon-HD5870-1GB-PCIe-Video-Card-/270651029201?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item3f040ef6d1

Not the real thing. Kind of risky.

[ildondeigiocchi]

Not the real thing. Kind of risky.

That's definitely a flashed PC 5870 that the person is selling. It's not an Apple branded 5870. Seems that they're an endangered species :p

[Ricko101]

That's definitely a flashed PC 5870 that the person is selling. It's not an Apple branded 5870. Seems that they're an endangered species :p

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference besides not being from Apple? Will it have problems with updates?

[goMac]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference besides not being from Apple? Will it have problems with updates?

It's not running the Apple firmware, and it's different hardware slightly. It's possible that it could have problems with updates.

[Caviar]

Yeah, this is VERY frustrating....

[ildondeigiocchi]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference besides not being from Apple? Will it have problems with updates?

As was said by another user you might run into problems when updating the OS. Also for 2009 users, the card is covered by Apple if ever any problem arises.

[alphaod]

I'm now hoping they just give us the 6000 series of cards instead.

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference besides not being from Apple? Will it have problems with updates?

Also the card will have no warranty.

[akdj]

I'm frustrated as well. Still using the 8800GT on my '08, with no options to connect the new line of Displays with Display Port. Mine is DVI only...and the frustrations evident with the DVI-->DP issues keeps me waiting out the new card. No interest in the 5770 though.

Absolutely..>I'll sign the new petition! This remains my ONE frustration with Apple...their ridiculous choice of Graphic options...and even with their limited choices...it's very hard to find them in the wild! Lame!!!!

I'm really looking forward to the new 27" panels...i'm going to order two of them (I'm using 23" ACDs right now)...but I can't do it until I have a way to connect them, reliably:)

J

[TurnerMan]

Apple consistently "screws the pooch" with their offerings of available graphics cards. They're normally over a year behind current offerings then charge a substantial amount higher than the cards are going for on the PC side. How can they justify the price increase? Surely neither the EFI or MDP make it worth the bonus money they tie to the card. I suppose if you have a Mac you can just eat their "happy meal" or you have the option of going without.

[Cynicalone]

Mac Parts Online seems to have some in stock.

http://www.macpartsonline.com/661-5719-ati-radeon-hd-5870-video-card-1-gb-mac-pro-mid-2010-a1289.html

I've never heard of these guys so I don't know if it would be safe to order from them.

[Caviar]

Mac Parts Online seems to have some in stock.

http://www.macpartsonline.com/661-5719-ati-radeon-hd-5870-video-card-1-gb-mac-pro-mid-2010-a1289.html

I've never heard of these guys so I don't know if it would be safe to order from them.




I noticed that they have "Mac Pro Early 2008" included in the "Compatible Macs" area.
Kind of surprised because normally stores only post "official" data.



Compatible Macs
Mac Pro Mid 2010, Mac Pro Early 2009, Mac Pro Early 2008

[RebootD]

I noticed that they have "Mac Pro Early 2008" included in the "Compatible Macs" area.
Kind of surprised because normally stores only post "official" data.

I'm desperate to get a new gfx card but not $100 over retail desperate!

Situations like this make me want to be a Windows user again if only to gain access to readily available options.

[ovrlrd]

I caved, I hope MacPartsOnline comes through, or my credit card company is getting a call.

[ildondeigiocchi]

I want a 5870 badly, but paying a 100$ over retail price is just out of the question. Plus, I've never heard of macpartsonline so I don't know whether or not they are reliable. I just placed my order for a 5870 with a local Apple authorized reseller for 479$ CAD. They told me wait time should be between 1-2 weeks.

[ovrlrd]

Got the card from Macpartsonline

Only problem is it doesn't work.

Are 5870s supposed to come with only one power cable? This one did.

I plugged it in, and it turns on, my Mac Pro boots, I can tell the 5870 fans are on, but I get no display. No matter what I try (resetting nvram etc) I get no display.

Does this thing need two cables? Because I am screwed if so, gonna contact the seller to see what is up.

Update: Resolved, see post below for the great response I got from Macpartsonline

[RebootD]

No it requires two power cables, the 5770 only requires one.


Got the card from Macpartsonline

Only problem is it doesn't work.

Are 5870s supposed to come with only one power cable? This one did.

I plugged it in, and it turns on, my Mac Pro boots, I can tell the 5870 fans are on, but I get no display. No matter what I try (resetting nvram etc) I get no display.

Does this thing need two cables? Because I am screwed if so, gonna contact the seller to see what is up.

[minifridge1138]

1) Yes, it needs 2 power cords. That's why a BTO Pro has an option of one 5870s or two 5770s.

2) That website has links back to this forum regarding compatibility. That's not bad, but circular logic is a redflag in my book.

3) They're selling it for $95 more than Apple, which is $100 more than a PC card.

4) That site lists the 2008 MP as compatible, but Apple does not. That is another redflag.

You could try to find a 2nd cable to see if the card works. Good luck, I do hope it works out for you.

[MacUser2525]

Got the card from Macpartsonline

Are 5870s supposed to come with only one power cable? This one did.

Does this thing need two cables? Because I am screwed if so, gonna contact the seller to see what is up.

Is says two cables right in the specifications near the bottom of the page so they should have included the second one so it would work...

Edit: Too slow to post I guess its a duplicate now.

[ovrlrd]

Yeah not looking good. :(

I sent an email so hopefully I will get a good response. Not sure where I can find a spare cable either. It sucks I used to have tons of them from spare PSUs but now I got nothing but a card that won't work.

[Cynicalone]

Yeah it will require two power cables, similar to the 4870 from 09.

Strange they would send one cable with the card. :confused:

[ovrlrd]

Just got a call from Macpartsonline.

The guy was really nice and understood my issue. He said that Apple only shipped them with one cable and that they do indeed require two power cables in order to work.

He is shipping me a spare cable next day air (saturday delivery) so I should have the cable tomorrow no problem.

It seems like Apple screwed up and did not supply the correct number of cables, not at all the fault of Macpartsonline.

Great response and service from Macpartsonline! The card came very quickly and my issue was resolved within 24 hours. I am satisified now and look forward to playing with my new card tomorrow. :)

[Cynicalone]

I'll be interested to see if you get it working.

How did the card arrive? Apple typically ships graphics cards in rather plain packaging. Simple white boxes for the GT120 for example.

Does the card appear to be a legitimate Apple card?

[ovrlrd]

I'll be interested to see if you get it working.

How did the card arrive? Apple typically ships graphics cards in rather plain packaging. Simple white boxes for the GT120 for example.

Does the card appear to be a legitimate Apple card?

It shipped in a plain cardboard box, but it has a seal on it that says "Do not break seal unless using parts" and there is a label that says the correct part number. The label is in a common font Apple uses for shipping labels and such.

Inside the box was two booklets, one was an Apple document explaining the return window for defective parts, and the other was an Apple printed install manual for a Radeon 4870. It definitely is a genuine Apple part, but clearly not designed for end users like the 5770s people got from the Apple store.

The fact that the instructions say 4870 is likely because they haven't printed the 5870 one yet. The card itself looks identical to the ones I have seen in photos of people's 2010 Mac Pros. The label on the bottom of the card indicates that it is indeed a Radeon 5870 1GB. It also came in a sealed anti-static bag like brand new cards do.

I am 100% certain it is legit, and Apple just screwed up the power cables. If Apple were to ship this same box from their store they would have a lot of issues with people being confused by the lack of a second cable and the instructions saying 4870.

I am sure the second cable was a minor issue and Apple is not likely to make that mistake again, at the very least Maconlineparts is now aware of it. The instruction booklet will get printed correctly before it ships from Apple to customers.

[minifridge1138]

It sounds like things are moving in the right direction.
I'm very curious to hear the final result.

If everything is legit and Apple's suppliers made the mistake of packing the wrong manual and # power cords, then that would explain the delay.

The wrong manual is minor, but the 2nd power cord is a show stopper.

[Cynicalone]

Thanks for the info.

It does indeed sound like a proper Apple parts.

If Apple doesn't add them soon I'll have to order one. Should be an easy swap from the 4870, since the cables will already be in place.

[CaptainChunk]

What do you guys think about these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Apple-Mac-Pr...item3f040ef6d1
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Don't buy from AppleCrapcanix. These guys (among others) capitalize on the thankless work grassroots guys do to get PC cards working on Macs and profit from it. What you're essentially getting is a card with a voided warranty (because it's flashed) at an over $100 price premium (or call it $80 if you count the included booster cables).

ROM dumps for the 5870 have been available for some time now and the flash is not too hard to do. If I was considering the hacked card route, I'd do it myself, personally. Several eBay sellers carry Mac-specific PCIe booster cables for around $10 each as well.

[ovrlrd]

Just wanted to update and say that I got the power cable as promised and the 5870 is hooked up and working perfectly in my Mac Pro right now.

Macpartsonline came through and I have a nice Radeon 5870 now!

[Wild-Bill]

I'm going to wait for the HD 6970 to come out and flash it for Mac use.

That is, of course, when the video card kext gods such as Rominator, Cindori, etc... get their hands on it and do their magic!!!!

[Major Reeves]

Just wanted to update and say that I got the power cable as promised and the 5870 is hooked up and working perfectly in my Mac Pro right now.

Macpartsonline came through and I have a nice Radeon 5870 now!

Check the "Link Speed" on the System Profiler (under PCI Cards).

[kunia]

Just want to let you know that my local Apple Store on Square One in Mississauga (that's Greater Toronto Area) has quite a few 5770s - I picked one up earlier today. Didn't ask about 5870.
My old mac pro 1.1 is running very well with the card: 30" ACD on DVI and 23" ACD on MDP to DVI adapter.
Also runs great (so far - haven't tested it yet on any games) on Windows 7 64bit with latest Catalyst drivers.

cheers
adrian

btw I'm new here but long time reader:)

[Mackilroy]

I'm going to wait for the HD 6970 to come out and flash it for Mac use.

That is, of course, when the video card kext gods such as Rominator, Cindori, etc... get their hands on it and do their magic!!!!
Not going to happen until Apple releases the 6970.

[ildondeigiocchi]

Not going to happen until Apple releases the 6970.

I highly doubt the 6970 will be released for Apple until the next Mac Pro revision unless ATI sells it like they did with 3870 PC & Mac Edition :rolleyes:

[ildondeigiocchi]

Update: Macsales no longer has the 5870 in stock. It's listed as "OUT OF STOCK". So there are officially no resellers carrying the 5870. This situation seems really depressing. If only Apple would provide an explanation as to why it's been delayed for so long. :(

[ildondeigiocchi]

The 5870 is now available for ordering however no ship date info is provided.

Link : http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC743ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MTg2OTU0NTI

[Topper]

The 5870 is now available for ordering however no ship date info is provided.

Link : http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC743ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MTg2OTU0NTI

Good, got mine on order, thank you.

[allbald]

That I am.
I'll use the 5870 for OS X and the 6970 for Bootcamp.
If I can do it, I'd really like to use the 6990 for Bootcamp.
.

I have thought about doing something similar -- assuming no power cable issues inside the mac pro in installing it -- do you simply have to switch cables on your monitor to the 6970 / 6990 once you boot into bootcamp (since these won't natively run in the mac on pc version).

[Topper]

I have thought about doing something similar -- assuming no power cable issues inside the mac pro in installing it -- do you simply have to switch cables on your monitor to the 6970 / 6990 once you boot into bootcamp (since these won't natively run in the mac on pc version).

I am not sure.
I believe Nanofrog was talking about some kind of DVI switch.
NewEgg has a number of those that may work.
My monitor has a resolution of 2560 x 1600 so I'd have to make sure the DVI switch can handle that kind of resolution.

My monitor has two DVI ports.
I may be able to plug each video card in a separate DVI port.
Maybe then all I have to do to change video cards is use the "input" button on the front of my monitor.

[ildondeigiocchi]

On the phone with Apple's corporate office in California as we speak!!!

[iWolf00]

ildondeigiocchi; Could you check; with apple representatives; whether this card (ati 5870) will find its way to Middle East or not, please??? :confused:

[ildondeigiocchi]

ildondeigiocchi; Could you check; with apple representatives; whether this card (ati 5870) will find its way to Middle East or not, please??? :confused:

Hey iWolf00, I'm sure that if you call Apple on their hotline 1-800-MY-APPLE, they would be able to answer you. However, the way things are going at the moment we'll be lucky if this product will make it on the market :mad:

[iWolf00]

Hey iWolf00, I'm sure that if you call Apple on their hotline 1-800-MY-APPLE, they would be able to answer you. However, the way things are going at the moment we'll be lucky if this product will make it on the market :mad:

Thanks, but I am staying outside US and this number is for US residence only. :(( So there is no way I can ask them about when and where

Well, it seems the Pro market is not interested in GPU upgrade; no wonder apple seems very slow in updating their MPro GPU regularly.

Also, I start to wonder why ATI don’t release a GPU that can run on Mac OSX. I believe we will get Both ATI 6850, 6870 & 6970 once its released. That is better than waiting of a FULL year for apple to release them and another +3months to get them as an upgrade.

Apple is lucky because her customers enjoy waiting for its product and upgrade kit!

[Transporteur]

Apple is lucky because her customers enjoy waiting for its product and upgrade kit!

I rather think that more and more customers are going back to Windows based workstations because of things like this.

Apparently Apple wants to lose its Pro customers and become a mobile and iOS company all the way.

[ildondeigiocchi]

I rather think that more and more customers are going back to Windows based workstations because of things like this.

Apparently Apple wants to lose its Pro customers and become a mobile and iOS company all the way.

Honestly I love Apple and all and when I made my switch from Windows three years ago I loved Apple because of their dedication to the PRO market but that seems to have a become a segment of the market they are rapidly forgetting about despite the fact that pros are the people who helped establish them as a reliable company in the past. Come on Apple we just want a graphics card we're not asking you to perform miracles! :(

[incubator01]

Looks like I might wait a while then before buying a regular card and flashing it.

At least I'm glad someone is looking into the matter.
Calling a local apple retailer here in europe is like talking to a wall since they know just as much as we do.

*crosses fingers*

[Transporteur]

Come on Apple we just want a graphics card we're not asking you to perform miracles! :(

That's what I'm thinking.
I mean it would be totally ok if they would make an official statement saying that AMD can't supply them with enough cards (if this is what causes the issues), but this way? Sorry, that's just ****in with their customers.

[Binford]

gave up and got a 5770 about 6 weeks ago, glad i did. i'll probably wait for the 6870

[ildondeigiocchi]

Just received order confirmation from apple.... Order will ship dec. 22 and received dec. 28 with expedited shipping. I ordered mine on the second day it became available so they should start shipping as of dec. 21 as many others have said bittersweet moment but at least they will ship

[t3nchu]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)

Just received order confirmation from apple.... Order will ship dec. 22 and received dec. 28 with expedited shipping. I ordered mine on the second day it became available so they should start shipping as of dec. 21 as many others have said bittersweet moment but at least they will ship

I wish I was able to place my order when it was available. Now have to wait until that order button pop back up whenever apple feels like it.

[Lodoss]

STANDALONE KIT - ATI 5870-ZML
$449.00
1
$449.00
Ships: Dec 21
Delivers Dec 24 by Standard Shipping

[galstaph]

now I wish I'd placed the order... I could wait till late December... BUT we still cannot place an order at the store here in Canada:mad:...

[incubator01]

Just received order confirmation from apple.... Order will ship dec. 22 and received dec. 28 with expedited shipping. I ordered mine on the second day it became available so they should start shipping as of dec. 21 as many others have said bittersweet moment but at least they will ship

Odd, How come I don't see the green "Add to cart" button on that card even if they now know when they will be able to ship it?? :s

Even weirder, how come you and many other people could order it at hte apple store if there wasn't even an add to card button in the first place?

Screenshot:
http://incubator.dyndns.org/fcg/atihd5870.PNG

[Lodoss]

Odd, How come I don't see the green "Add to cart" button on that card even if they now know when they will be able to ship it?? :s

Even weirder, how come you and many other people could order it at hte apple store if there wasn't even an add to card button in the first place?

Screenshot:
http://incubator.dyndns.org/fcg/atihd5870.PNG

Read the very first post in the the thread.

[incubator01]

I did but it seems I was missing something.

In any case, they updated it.
On the belgian stpre the add to cart button now appears too just with all the rest.

[ekwipt]

Australian store has changed from unavailable to ships within 1-3 business days.

[DualShock]

Australian store has changed from unavailable to ships within 1-3 business days.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[ildondeigiocchi]

Australian store has changed from unavailable to ships within 1-3 business days.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Oh the saga continues..... How in the heck does this make any sense ???

[galstaph]

still shows unavailable in Canada, but you can place the order (add to cart is back as of this morning)... be nice if it was 1-3 days

[Major Reeves]

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

Oh the saga continues..... How in the heck does this make any sense ???

In soviet apple, the nonsense makes sense.

Mine ships december 27.

[DualShock]

HOLY $^%&*($^%&*(#$^

Ships in 24 HRS for USA Apple Store!!!

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC743ZM/A

[galstaph]

24 hours for Canada as well

[ildondeigiocchi]

24 hrs shipping now in Canada and USA. Despite the fact that I didn't cancel my initial order it says prepped for shipment!

[Lodoss]

Got my shipping notification it will be here by nov 17th after re ordering

[ildondeigiocchi]

I just got notification that my 5870 shipped. I was so happy... I decided to go all out an buy a second 30" Apple Cinema Display (BTW I'm not joking). This is gonna be an intense setup! :D