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[exbox]

I have found mention of 1394b in a pdf showing techinical specs and other things of a prototype powermac. The pdf can be downloaded here (http://homepage.mac.com/leeharple/FileSharing2.html) . The page 1394b is mentioned on is 13.

[mnkeybsness]

very very very very interesting document...

...interesting indeed...


...but how long until apple legal finds out?


...any bets?

[Tiauguinho]

Can you please post the information. I can't read the document.


Thanks in advance

[Tiauguinho]

Sorry to double post, but I was able to open the document.

Here is Page 13

[vniow]

Here's a close up shot:

[mnkeybsness]

i hope everyone is saving this on their computers...it will be taken down soon i'm sure

[vniow]

Hey exbox, where'd you get this at? :confused:
Or can you not tell us?

[arn]

Attachements were deleted to save Apple the trouble of emailing me to delete them. :)

This person submitted this to me, and I did not post it for a couple of reasons. He chose to post it himself, which is his choice... but his apple account will certainly get closed down.

The pdf does show proprietary Apple information. The only interesting part of it for end-users like us is that they show Firewire 2 connectors being tested/consirdered back in 6/02.

arn

[exbox]

Originally posted by edvniow
Hey exbox, where'd you get this at? :confused:
Or can you not tell us? I found this here (https://private.apple.com/opseng/). You can also download some other docs, so get em while you can ;)

[mnkeybsness]

why doesn't apple password protect these sites? they are such a gold mine for information

[vniow]

They did this one. If you look at some of the other things at the site, it asks you for a password. There's sections for Motorola, IBM and Intel, but there's either nothing there or it's password protection. :(

[tliptak]

if you click on vender there is a list of vendors. IBM and Intel are there. So is Moto. but it is password protected if you click on ibm.

[jelloshotsrule]

am i the only one who saw this thing but had no idea what the heck i was looking at??

[kungfu]

isn't "p58" the name for the powermac or something??? that's about all i got out of that article except for the fact that they mention 1394b.

kungfu

[mnkeybsness]

there is also quite a bit about sound...a standard line out looks like it's included...

also...a serial input connector

...the SDRAM pages were left blank?????:confused: ?????

[mnkeybsness]

also the P58 is tested at 167 MHz...just another thing i found on those pages...a disk image entitled P58_167MHZ.img the disk includes a system folder, inside is "Finder" that will not launch, "Core2001 Firmware 4.4.5b7," and "System"

i would fool around and replace my finder with this finder, but i don't want to mess up my system...anyone wanna try? pm me

[ibookin']

Originally posted by mnkeybsness
also the P58 is tested at 167 MHz...just another thing i found on those pages...a disk image entitled P58_167MHZ.img the disk includes a system folder, inside is "Finder" that will not launch, "Core2001 Firmware 4.4.5b7," and "System"

i would fool around and replace my finder with this finder, but i don't want to mess up my system...anyone wanna try? pm me

I see that disk image, too. Notice that the date on it is July 17, 2002, the date of the MWNY 2002 Keynote.

Interesting...

[exbox]

Sorry, but I decided to remove the pdf from my .mac account. The site where I originally got it from, here (https://private.apple.com/opseng/) , has also removed it.

[vniow]

Glad I saved it. If anybody wants it, you can e-mail me and I'll send it to you. :)

[voyagerd]

any other sites still have it?

[exbox]

Originally posted by voyagerd
any other sites still have it?

No other site has this, but if one does, they will not have it for long. I will email it to any one who requests it.

[Vector]

I mentioned this on the 28th in the mac general discussion forum. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10435

I found downloaded it and told people to look at the pdf files inside the stuffed folder, but nobody ever posted anthing in response.

For those of you who have not seen it it just has a small engineering scematic that says 1394b connector. It is not that informative abouit specifications just that it does exist. I will not post the files as per Arns's request.

[Tiauguinho]

Originally posted by kungfu
isn't "p58" the name for the powermac or something??? that's about all i got out of that article except for the fact that they mention 1394b.

kungfu

You're right! I went to search some older threads for the exact mention of this codename, because I remember when a guy camed here telling the specs of the New PowerMac that was coming, he mentioned that the QuickSilver was P57 and that this one was P58 ( His Nick Was APPLEP58!) He had a Pdf describing everything and he was going to tell more, he even said that the new case was the same color of the QuickSilver( When the Photo that was leaked showed the case White, and that was due to the flash of the camera QUOTE APPLEP58 : "By the way it's not white it's the same silver color G4s are now, teh image is distorted (stretched, but you knew that) the sides, top, and handles are indistinguishable from P57 (QuickSilver); just A COMPLETE change of the internal design, and front and back panel are different."
), until he was flamed by someone who just didn't believe that Apple would release that, and that the case that appeared on the Photo that was leaked was White... Oh well, one good source that was flamed by stupidity.


Back to the topic! Well if he mentioned that this "New PowerMac" was the P58, and we all saw that weeks later it really was, to me it just brings something in my logic... Since this new PDF that we have, show Firewire 2 on the P58, I have to ask you guys something... What a hell went Wrong??? Why didn't Firewire 2 maked it's debut on this Machine as it is on this new PDF?


Here is the link to the Thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=8083

[Macunixhacker]

Here is the P58 document that has been getting removed from sites at apples request: GET IT WHILE YOU CAN (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.callejea.com/cgi-bin/phpnuke/index.php&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dapplep58%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8)

[Vector]

Originally posted by Macunixhacker
Here is the P58 document that has been getting removed from sites at apples request: GET IT WHILE YOU CAN (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.callejea.com/cgi-bin/phpnuke/index.php&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dapplep58%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8)

That is not the one that i found on apples site. That is one from a person named apple58 who put it on the boards a long time ago. We are talking about one that i found on the 28th on a private server of apple's. It has the engineering scematics and circuitry for firewire 2, the other pdf does not.

[Macunixhacker]

:p Hahahah

But it is still being requested to be removed from certain sites..

:p :p :p :p :p :D

[Vector]

Originally posted by Macunixhacker
:p Hahahah

But it is still being requested to be removed from certain sites..

:p :p :p :p :p :D

Strange. It doesnt really have all that much info in it. It just has pictures of the p58 and since it has come out it isnt really that informative anymore. The reason the one that the one i got from apple is interesting is that it has a mention and the circuitry info for firewire 2 ports.

[Macunixhacker]

Well anyway,can you e mail me that pdf you have?

macman123@email.com

It shouldnt take to long to email I have a T3 connection