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mrzippy
Jan 13, 2005, 03:21 PM
Project page:

http://mrzippy.org.uk/macmediacenter/index.php

We need ideas and PROGRAMMERS !!!

Lets develop a great open source media center to run on the Mac mini!

NOV
Jan 13, 2005, 03:23 PM
Why bother when it's practically a media center from the shelf?

mrzippy
Jan 13, 2005, 03:35 PM
Is it, must of missed that.

I don't know of a Media Center application for OS X.

You would have to launch separate programs etc. to use as a media center.

I'm talking about an integrated application, and possibly a remote control device other than mouse/keyboard.

NOV
Jan 13, 2005, 03:43 PM
OK,

I was more thinking about the hardware side of things...

the rc already exists btw. :
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=TB638LL/A

mrzippy
Jan 13, 2005, 03:55 PM
OK,

I was more thinking about the hardware side of things...

the rc already exists btw. :
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=TB638LL/A

Ah forgot about that, excellent idea.

Just need a nice integrate app for it to control, don't forget Mac is all about elegance !

Should be quite simple really, hope the MMC project gets some support :)

pratip
Jan 13, 2005, 04:46 PM
Remote control options are the Keyspan thingie or the "Salling Clicker". Take a look at it on VersionTracker. It is a bit of software that is pushed onto your Sony-Ericsson Bluetooth phone and allows iTunes, Keynote, Powerpoint, iPhoto, DVD-player control and even an etch-a-sketch style control of the mouse amongst a few other things. In iTunes, it sends the playlists to your phone and lets you browse the library, fast-forward, rewind, etc... All from your phone. I don't know what other phones it supports, but it works like a champ on my T68i and my friend's P900. It is possible to develop other controlly-bits on your own and many people have contributed. My personal opinion is that a bluetooth remote is more "elegant" as more of it is hidden. The remote control interface can essentially just map remote key-presses to apple-script commands. Most good apps are fully scriptable.

As the front-end to the media centre, look at MythTV. The Myth Front End runs on OSX today, although the backend is Linux only for now. Work that would be needed would be to have it launch the underlying iApps. I don't know what to do about DVD-ripping. Perhaps a wrapper to Handbrake. the advantage of using MythTV as the front end would be using other peoples' skins without having to do too much work. MythTV is a gnarly beast to master but probably a good long-term bet, from the interoperability viewpoint.

Essential options for the media-centre mini are the 512MB RAM option and the internal bluetooth module. The wireless is nice to have, but running cat5 along with the wires to the TV display can be done discretely enough and saves a bit of cash. Not to mention gives you better conneectivity. Full-duplex 100mbps is *much* faster than half-duplex, shared bus 54mbps.

Once I get my grubby little paws on my mini, it will be mounted vertically on my wall, next to my 30" lcd tv. I wonder how hard it will be to rotate the white plastic "top" with the apple logo on it 90 degrees so that when on the wall, the dvd-slot will be on the side and the apple logo will be right side up. I am sure that this is warranty-voiding, but aesthetics has its price...

Rod Rod
Jan 14, 2005, 04:17 PM
Here's a low-cost way to add Dolby Digital and DTS optical and coax digital (plus analog 5.1) to your Mac mini:


Philips 5.1-Channel USB 2.0 Surround Processor for $33 shipped
http://dealmac.com/articles/78969.html

Pictures of the device:
http://images.google.com/images?q=PSC805&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

I just ordered mine. This thing is bigger than the Mac mini but I'll figure out a way for it to look nice with the rest of the setup.

http://www.applied-net.co.jp/images_21/assemble/ask/philips/psc805-1.jpg
http://www.ask-corp.co.jp/philips/psc805-back.jpg

jaykk
Jan 14, 2005, 04:50 PM
I didn't post in here for a while. But I thought i will chime in regarding audio. Here is a new product from Griffin. FireWave (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/firewave/index.php). It looks neat, little pricier than the Philips one though.

TreeHugger
May 17, 2005, 02:10 PM
Here's a low-cost way to add Dolby Digital and DTS optical and coax digital (plus analog 5.1) to your Mac mini:


Philips 5.1-Channel USB 2.0 Surround Processor for $33 shipped
http://dealmac.com/articles/78969.html

Pictures of the device:
http://images.google.com/images?q=PSC805&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

I just ordered mine. This thing is bigger than the Mac mini but I'll figure out a way for it to look nice with the rest of the setup.

http://www.applied-net.co.jp/images_21/assemble/ask/philips/psc805-1.jpg
http://www.ask-corp.co.jp/philips/psc805-back.jpg

does anybody have a good review / comparison between this and the Griffin Firewave?

Rod Rod
May 17, 2005, 09:18 PM
does anybody have a good review / comparison between this and the Griffin Firewave?
Thanks for reminding me of this thread.

The Griffin FireWave isn't even shipping yet.

As it turns out, on Macs the Philips device only does stereo, and Macs only see it as USB 1.1 (not as USB 2.0). The Griffin FireWave mentioned above is likely way better than this thing. The redeeming feature of this Philips device is it adds an audio input to the Mac mini, as well as an optical audio output (which is, however, stereo).

It's too bad the FireWave doesn't have digital optical or coax outputs.

Someone at Apple or Philips should enable 5.1 audio on the PSC805.

cb2005
Sep 7, 2005, 08:09 PM
I cannot seem to get the Mic In on the Philips PSC805 to work with my Mini.
Has anyone tried this out yet? Did it work out of the box?

The output works fine (stereo though), and the input shows up in the system preferences, but no sound recorded either using audio-recorder or audacity.


-cb

Thanks for reminding me of this thread.

The Griffin FireWave isn't even shipping yet.

As it turns out, on Macs the Philips device only does stereo, and Macs only see it as USB 1.1 (not as USB 2.0). The Griffin FireWave mentioned above is likely way better than this thing. The redeeming feature of this Philips device is it adds an audio input to the Mac mini, as well as an optical audio output (which is, however, stereo).

It's too bad the FireWave doesn't have digital optical or coax outputs.

Someone at Apple or Philips should enable 5.1 audio on the PSC805.

MacAficionado
Sep 7, 2005, 08:27 PM
Good idea guys

Keep it up. We really need this. Keep us posted on development.

Rod Rod
Sep 8, 2005, 02:13 AM
I cannot seem to get the Mic In on the Philips PSC805 to work with my Mini.
Has anyone tried this out yet? Did it work out of the box?

The output works fine (stereo though), and the input shows up in the system preferences, but no sound recorded either using audio-recorder or audacity.


-cbI haven't tried the audio input on the PSC805. I'd guess though that it requires a line level input, as with the audio in on PowerBooks.

cb2005
Sep 8, 2005, 10:43 AM
I haven't tried the audio input on the PSC805. I'd guess though that it requires a line level input, as with the audio in on PowerBooks.

Yes, must be something like that. My solid state Radio Shack mic did not work, but my old headset-mic combo does work well, (even Garageband can see it).

I wish the 5.1 worked on this, but at $20 (cheaper than iMic) I will take the stereo and audio-in and wait for the 5.1.

-cb

Sdashiki
Sep 8, 2005, 11:03 AM
Why not hop over to mp3car.com and work on it there. Carputers are far more useful than a home entertainment option.

IMO.