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Nermal
Jan 13, 2005, 03:49 PM
At first glance, the answer looks like a big Yes. But read on...

There are several 'pseudo-widescreens' out there. Take Philips for example. They have several 17" 4:3 LCDs with 1280x1024 resolution. They also have a 'wide' model with 1280x768 resolution. This is exactly the same width as the 4:3 version! So rather than being a widescreen, it's more of a shortscreen, and you therefore get LESS space by buying one of these! :eek:

Apple is the only company I can find who makes actual wide screens (1440x900). Unfortunately these are built into the iMac and PowerBook and aren't available separately. So, does anyone know of any other true widescreens?

Thanks :)

robbieduncan
Jan 13, 2005, 03:50 PM
I was looking for exactly the same thing the other day. Samsung used to make one (172W iirc). The only ones I have been able to find have built in TV tuners which I don't want and drives the cost up by about 100.

ChrisBrightwell
Jan 13, 2005, 03:52 PM
FYI, the 15" Powerbook LCD is 1280x854. How is this any different than the LCD you're bitching about as being "short"?

Nermal
Jan 13, 2005, 04:12 PM
It's 15", so it's only fair that it should have a lower resolution.

jeremy.king
Jan 13, 2005, 04:28 PM
I'm failing to see your beef. Most of those mentioned are somewhat close to 16:9 aspect ratio, so I would qualify it as a widescreen. I think a better way to phrase your question is, does anyone make a 17" widescreen with a resolution wider than the 17" Apple display.

Whats your price range?

Dell has a 20" for only $750 USD

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?TabPage=overview&sku=320-4111&spagenum=&category_id=6198&brandid=&k=&c=us&l=en&cs=19&mnf=&prst=&prEnd=&mnfsku=&orderby=&searchtype=&pageb4search=&page=productlisting.aspx&instock=&refurbished=

cluthz
Jan 13, 2005, 04:47 PM
I was looking for exactly the same thing the other day. Samsung used to make one (172W iirc). The only ones I have been able to find have built in TV tuners which I don't want and drives the cost up by about 100.

The 172w has the crappy 1280x768 res too..

The LCD market doesn't make much sense. All 17" is 1280x1024, which is "high screen" because it's not 4:3. A 4:3 screen would give you 1280x960, 1280x1024 is actually 5:4...

The 19" inch LCD also sports 1280x1024, which gives you a much lower dpi than 15"@1024x768 and 17"1280x1024.

Also the a 17"@1280x1024 height is exactly = a 20"@1680x1050 = 27.3 cm high!!

This boils down to:
17" standard = 5:4, 17"w = 16:10
19" = 5:4 low dpi
20" = 4:3 (1600x1200), 20"w =16:10

Why do we want 5:4 17 and 19 -inchers??
"high" screens are good for text editing, but sucks for gaming and video?

chaos86
Jan 13, 2005, 05:42 PM
apple doesn't make a 17" stand-alone display

cluthz
Jan 13, 2005, 06:14 PM
apple doesn't make a 17" stand-alone display
True, but they did make one a year(?) ago

ravenvii
Jan 13, 2005, 06:23 PM
True, but they did make one a year(?) ago

Yeah, but it's not even widescreen. So it's a bit hard to compare. I think the best way to look at 17" widescreen LCDs is to look at a 15", get the max HEIGHT resolution, and then look for a 17" widescreen with that same resolution for the height. Because a 17" widescreen LCD is essentially a widened 15". A 20" widescreen is a widened 17", and so on. It's not a exact math mind you, but it's close enough to compare :)

BillHarrison
Jan 14, 2005, 05:23 AM
Yeah, but it's not even widescreen. So it's a bit hard to compare. I think the best way to look at 17" widescreen LCDs is to look at a 15", get the max HEIGHT resolution, and then look for a 17" widescreen with that same resolution for the height. Because a 17" widescreen LCD is essentially a widened 15". A 20" widescreen is a widened 17", and so on. It's not a exact math mind you, but it's close enough to compare :)

Very close, I have done that search. Samsung offers / offered a couple of praised models for a decent price in this category, I don't have them handy, but they were.

Basically, as this poster said, a 17" widescreen is BASICALLY a 15" monitor stretched horizontally. The HEIGHT is almost identical.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 14, 2005, 07:38 AM
Very close, I have done that search. Samsung offers / offered a couple of praised models for a decent price in this category, I don't have them handy, but they were.

Basically, as this poster said, a 17" widescreen is BASICALLY a 15" monitor stretched horizontally. The HEIGHT is almost identical.

Yeah, but the PB 17" offers 1440x900. Know that it is not much more, but enough that some keep bringing up when comparing the 15" verses the 17" PBs.

jayscheuerle
Jan 14, 2005, 08:11 AM
They also have a 'wide' model with 1280x768 resolution. This is exactly the same width as the 4:3 version! So rather than being a widescreen, it's more of a shortscreen, and you therefore get LESS space by buying one of these! :eek:


1280 x 768 is HDTV resolution. That's probably why it was chosen. - j

NatronB
Jan 14, 2005, 02:00 PM
I bought a Samsung Syncmaster 172W about a year ago. It's been sitting in my closet for 4 months now (I bought a Dell 26" LCD TV that does double duty). If anyone is interested I might be coerced into letting it go for a fair price.

-N

edit: nm, you guys are all in crazy countries, good luck.

sgarringer
Jan 14, 2005, 03:08 PM
I bought a Samsung Syncmaster 172W about a year ago. It's been sitting in my closet for 4 months now (I bought a Dell 26" LCD TV that does double duty). If anyone is interested I might be coerced into letting it go for a fair price.

-N

edit: nm, you guys are all in crazy countries, good luck.

What country are you from. I'm looking for a LCD monitor to replace my 15". I'm in America.

rosalindavenue
Jan 14, 2005, 03:31 PM
The toshiba in my sig, which I bought in December 03, has a 1440x900 screen. I read somewhere that it is the same screen apple put in the 17" PB. Of course, the rest of the notebook weighs 10 pounds and it has 70 minutes of battery life max-- but it does have a great display. It cost 1800 bucks, at a time when the 15" PB I really wanted cost 2600, and everyone was screaming about the "white spots on screen" problem.

Edit: whoops-- thread was talking desktop monitors-- sorry; I'm still stuck in the "year of the laptop"

robbieduncan
Jan 18, 2005, 03:35 PM
Sorry to dredge this thread back from the dead! I have given up on the hunt for non-Apple 17" screens and bought a Dell 2005FPW instead. 20.1", 1680x1050, 4 inputs, picture-in-picture, USB hub and VESA mountable. I'll let you know what it's like when I get it!

bousozoku
Jan 18, 2005, 05:30 PM
Sharp makes a 17 inch widescreen LCD but it has an analog connection. It's fairly inexpensive.

Mechcozmo
Jan 18, 2005, 05:58 PM
Edit: whoops-- thread was talking desktop monitors-- sorry; I'm still stuck in the "year of the laptop"

I'm still stuck in the Year of the Macintosh. That was 1984 for all of you freaks out there who don't know when the Mac first came out.