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hikeNM
Jan 14, 2005, 09:26 AM
Is it just me, or does the Ipod shuffle not have an educational discount?

Does Apple not think it has legitimate educational uses. I would seriously consider buying, if I could get a discount, since it can be used as a flash drive too. I use my 20 GB ipod alot for moving documents from home to school.

Surely it's as legitimate as iLife '05. And I can get a discount on it.



MentalFabric
Jan 14, 2005, 09:32 AM
Apple's margins are lower than usual on the shuffle, that's probably why

the_mole1314
Jan 14, 2005, 09:35 AM
I get a $10 discount on the 1gig version, nothing on the 512 though.

hikeNM
Jan 14, 2005, 09:37 AM
Understood. Oh well. I guess if I can't afford it without the discount, I don't need it.

tdhurst
Jan 14, 2005, 10:02 AM
Understood. Oh well. I guess if I can't afford it without the discount, I don't need it.

Usually the edu discounts are right around 10%. You can afford 90 but not the full 100?
I agree tho, it's always good to save cash.

hikeNM
Jan 14, 2005, 10:28 AM
Usually the edu discounts are right around 10%. You can afford 90 but not the full 100?
I agree tho, it's always good to save cash.

That's my point. If I can afford 90, but not 100, then I don't need to buying anything.

tdhurst
Jan 14, 2005, 10:35 AM
Spoken like a true college student. I really do want one of those things though...would be nice to replace my flash drive...

jhomayne
Jan 14, 2005, 10:57 AM
luckily i have a birthday coming up. ;)

Kwyjibo
Jan 14, 2005, 11:17 AM
That's my point. If I can afford 90, but not 100, then I don't need to buying anything.

apple might offer an edu discount when they fufill the intial demand but you never know, heck theres a discount on iPod socks. if I were you I would forfeit a weekend out or whatever you spend your money on and place an order, but thats me.

snkTab
Jan 14, 2005, 11:50 AM
I get a $10 discount on the 1gig version, nothing on the 512 though.

ARGH!!!! I wish I would've known this. My 512 shipped yesterday.

web_god61
Jan 14, 2005, 12:47 PM
i get a $1 discount on the 512.

Apple!Freak
Jan 14, 2005, 03:05 PM
From what I have seen Apple gives a whopping 6% educational discount. You would think they could at least give a 15% discount to students and educators. :rolleyes:

KREX725
Jan 14, 2005, 03:42 PM
From what I have seen Apple gives a whopping 6% educational discount. You would think they could at least give a 15% discount to students and educators. :rolleyes:

In all fairness to Apple, I got a 13% edu discount on my G5. It's better than nothing! :D

maya
Jan 14, 2005, 04:03 PM
In all fairness to Apple, I got a 13% edu discount on my G5. It's better than nothing! :D

The Apple Educational discount % varies from product line and model.

EDU also have model lines that are not available to consumers. For example there is an iBook G4 model without a combo drive only DVD drive for ~30 USD cheaper. :)

The 10% is not accurate. :)

pyrrhusmj
Jan 14, 2005, 04:21 PM
That's my point. If I can afford 90, but not 100, then I don't need to buying anything.



Cut out one night of college binge drinking and not only do you add 3 days to your life, you can get an ipod shuffle :)

Damien
Jan 14, 2005, 05:13 PM
Final cut express is £80 for NUS member here in UK. £200 otherwise!!! :D

Mechcozmo
Jan 14, 2005, 05:57 PM
Methinks you should just wait a week or so for the $10... skip dinner a few times, it isn't that important anyways, and in two days* you can get enough to cover the difference between the edu price and the normal price.

*Based on current Chinese Restaurant prices

nyprospect
Jan 14, 2005, 06:50 PM
My appologies to the poster for asking in your post.Just one question.Will apple ask for proof of your university or id if i purchase with edu discount.thanks

3Memos
Jan 14, 2005, 07:04 PM
Is it just me, or does the Ipod shuffle not have an educational discount?

Who knows for sure right? The margins for profit on the shuffle could be really slim as its even cheaper than most USB memory sticks (even without iPod coolness :) )

nyprospect
Jan 14, 2005, 07:12 PM
I meant on the mini or any ;) other item

hikeNM
Jan 14, 2005, 10:46 PM
Cut out one night of college binge drinking and not only do you add 3 days to your life, you can get an ipod shuffle :)

LOL. Don't think that'll be necessary. Not much of a binger. Kinda frowned upon since I'm a teacher. But there have been times, after an hour and a half of Algebra 2 to 15 years olds, that I wish I was drunk out of my mind!!!LOL

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 15, 2005, 02:31 AM
Is it just me, or does the Ipod shuffle not have an educational discount?

Does Apple not think it has legitimate educational uses. I would seriously consider buying, if I could get a discount, since it can be used as a flash drive too. I use my 20 GB ipod alot for moving documents from home to school.

Surely it's as legitimate as iLife '05. And I can get a discount on it.

How many other companies are giving EDU discounts on USB "keychain" devices with the capabilities of the Shuffle? Your answer may lie in there.

hob
Jan 31, 2005, 08:55 AM
At first I was surprised... then a little annoyed... then I realised. Even if they give me a 13% discount (the most I've ever known them to give) - that's £13 on the 1g or ~£6.80 for the 512. I can do without that money!!

It's just a few pints of beer
It's just a few pints of beer
It's just a few pints of beer
It's just a few pints of beer
It's just a few pints of beer

Hob

Spock
Jan 31, 2005, 09:07 AM
In all fairness and flame me if You feel Im wrong but why should students get discounts period?

Kwyjibo
Jan 31, 2005, 09:12 AM
In all fairness and flame me if You feel Im wrong but why should students get discounts period?

Well first of all Apple has deep roots in education and probaby wants to maintain those on paper. Secondly Brand Loyalty is huge for a company like apple that controls 5% of the market, givign students $100 off isn't a bad deal for them, instead its like they're trying to pay people to be customers for many years to come. Students in college are just beginning their independant life, typically don't have an income so a discoutn hits home. As for teachers, many are underpaid as is around the nation.

hikeNM
Jan 31, 2005, 09:18 AM
In all fairness and flame me if You feel Im wrong but why should students get discounts period?


Speaking from a teaching standpoint, the discounts help me tremendously. My wife an I are on a pretty tight budget, so it's nice to have the discount there. Should we get a discount just because we're teachers? Maybe not. Maybe so. I would find it hard to believe, if you look at any profession, that somebody doesn't get a break somewhere.

I've always been of the opinion that anything that can be done to help education along, will better our society. Of course, that's taking a look at the larger picture.

I'm curious to know if you think the government shouldn't give low interest rates for student loans? Do students deserve that, just because they are students?

Spock
Jan 31, 2005, 09:11 PM
Speaking from a teaching standpoint, the discounts help me tremendously. My wife an I are on a pretty tight budget, so it's nice to have the discount there. Should we get a discount just because we're teachers? Maybe not. Maybe so. I would find it hard to believe, if you look at any profession, that somebody doesn't get a break somewhere.

I've always been of the opinion that anything that can be done to help education along, will better our society. Of course, that's taking a look at the larger picture.

I'm curious to know if you think the government shouldn't give low interest rates for student loans? Do students deserve that, just because they are students?

Plase dont get me wrong, I think giving teachers a discount is a good idea. In my opinion giving a 22 year old student a discount to buy a new laptop or iPod is not helping education, Sure the iBook would help BUT I need a laptop for work and i had to pay full price. AND I did not say anything about lower intrest rates for student loans I think every person should have the right to a good education. I live around CMSU I know how things go. Do You think its fair that the local resturants will give a student a discount but not the military?

vtprinz
Jan 31, 2005, 09:21 PM
In all fairness and flame me if You feel Im wrong but why should students get discounts period?


School is ridiculously expensive. Enough said.



And in regards to things like the iPod, which have no real educational purpose (you can claim you use it for moving documents and whatnot, but be honest, what did you buy it for? Did you need 20GB worth of space to transfer files? 40GB?), maybe it's not about what educational value the product has, but maybe we can look at it as a reward to those who pursue higher education? Just an idea.

Spock
Jan 31, 2005, 09:35 PM
but maybe we can look at it as a reward to those who pursue higher education? Just an idea.

A reward? I pay my bills every month and go to work everyday. Why do I still have to pay full price for my iPod?

vtprinz
Jan 31, 2005, 09:45 PM
A reward? I pay my bills every month and go to work everyday. Why do I still have to pay full price for my iPod?


Well, to be honest, I'd rather reward someone who's working toward an education than someone working toward a paycheck. Not that there's anything wrong with working for a paycheck, but, that's kind of what you're expected to do. You work for the things you want. In school, you work to better yourself.

Not to mention, we pay to go to school, you get paid to go to work ;)

vtprinz
Jan 31, 2005, 10:04 PM
I don't think I stressed this enough. You reward IS your paycheck. You get paid for going to work, and after food/bills, the money is yours to do with what you want (i.e., buying an iPod).

If I want money to buy things, I have to work ON TOP of going to school. My classes alone take up 25hrs/week, plus a fluctuating amount of study time outside the classroom. It's pretty much a full time job. And the money I do get still has to go toward bills (rent, utilities, car, insurance) and food, but also toward tuition/fees/books. I think you have an unfair advantage here when it comes to buying luxuries like an iPod. So why shouldn't we get a deal?

I'm starting to think you're a little greedy here :p

(kidding, of course)

amoildani
Jan 31, 2005, 10:17 PM
most college students I know barely have any money. 15 hours/week of classes (full time in US) requires a lot of time from a student. I personally work an extra 25hrs/week and im at school from 8am to 8pm. of course, many people work a schedule like this and worse, but are getting paid most of the time. The time students are in classes and studying arent paid in money. If they are getting no financial aid, or no help from their parents, thats a lot of money they have to pay (even if its in form of loans) for tuition. I know I dont want to be 30k in debt once I graduate, so I pay it off per semester. Not to mention the price of books ($400/semester on average!).
So students just dont have much money, but Apple wants them to use their computers, so they lower the prices for them. I would imagine thats the reason.

Now as for the ipod, im not sure why they are discounted. Although it can be used as a usb drive, its main function is entertainment (music player). I agree with the computer prices (a full-time worker can afford it easier than a full time students, its that simple), but with the ipod discounts im a little confused

Spock
Jan 31, 2005, 10:18 PM
. You work for the things you want. In school, you work to better yourself.

Not to mention, we pay to go to school, you get paid to go to work ;)

if You are in school getting an education to get a better paying job You should get a discount? Why cant You get a discount if You are on wellfair and just dont want to work?

vtprinz
Jan 31, 2005, 10:22 PM
if You are in school getting an education to get a better paying job You should get a discount? Why cant You get a discount if You are on wellfair and just dont want to work?

I'm not sure I understand your argument here...

Spock
Jan 31, 2005, 10:29 PM
it comes to buying luxuries like an iPod. So why shouldn't we get a deal?

I'm starting to think you're a little greedy here :p

(kidding, of course)

Luxuries, exactly You dont need an iPod to get an education. What about the people with kids that cant afford to go to school, working to keep food in their mouths it sounds to me like You are the greedy one

vtprinz
Jan 31, 2005, 10:44 PM
Luxuries, exactly You dont need an iPod to get an education. What about the people with kids that cant afford to go to school, working to keep food in their mouths it sounds to me like You are the greedy one

My family has always barely made it from paycheck to paycheck. My father is disabled and my mother works in retail. My parents can't exactly write out checks to my university ever semester. I'm getting through college by financial aid/multiple jobs. If I ever have the money to afford such luxuries, it's because I work my ass off everyday.

Don't make assumptions. Just because I'm a college student doesn't mean I come from a priveledged family. If you work for it, you can afford college. I'll be paying off the loan debt for this education for the rest of my life, but it's worth it.

Chip NoVaMac
Feb 1, 2005, 06:10 AM
Plase dont get me wrong, I think giving teachers a discount is a good idea. In my opinion giving a 22 year old student a discount to buy a new laptop or iPod is not helping education, Sure the iBook would help BUT I need a laptop for work and i had to pay full price. AND I did not say anything about lower intrest rates for student loans I think every person should have the right to a good education. I live around CMSU I know how things go. Do You think its fair that the local resturants will give a student a discount but not the military?

But you could get the EDU pricing by taking a class at your community college (or any school that is on the list of institutions that Apple extends the discount to). Surely there is one class that you might find fun or useful to take.

Discounts for certain affiliations is a choice by the establishment that gives them. We can go down a very long road on the various discounts given to different groups, but that is a better topic for the Political Forums.

jzke
Feb 1, 2005, 06:30 AM
Well, to be honest, I'd rather reward someone who's working toward an education than someone working toward a paycheck. Not that there's anything wrong with working for a paycheck, but, that's kind of what you're expected to do. You work for the things you want. In school, you work to better yourself.

Not to mention, we pay to go to school, you get paid to go to work ;)

Aha, I don't know if anyone else sees it this way but... You're saying people go to work for a paycheck, whereas a student goes to college to better themselves. However, I would say students actually go to college so they can get a better job, which has a bigger paycheck. Really, both situations are the same, although I do believe students should get a discount because of the much larger financial strain due to the huge cost of attending college.

tdhurst
Feb 1, 2005, 08:31 AM
Wasn't the original idea discounts on iPods? I mean, come on, the largest edu discount on an iPod is $30...
And Spock, to be perfectly blunt, did you even go to college? You have any idea what it's like to be in grad school, over $35,000 in debt, working full time and going to school three plus nights a week until nine? I'll be damned if I wasn't stoked when I got $20 off my new mini.

vtprinz
Feb 1, 2005, 11:34 AM
However, I would say students actually go to college so they can get a better job, which has a bigger paycheck.

Well, sadly you're right on this for the vast majority of students. Personally I couldn't care about what job I get after all of this is over. For that matter, I've entertained thoughts of becoming a professional student :D







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