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jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 03:49 PM
As noted here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=1219744#post1219744), I just got my 512MB iPod Shuffle after lunch.

Having opened, charged, loaded, and listened to it, I thought I'd post a quick review.

Overall opinion: it is fantastic!

Points:

It weighs nothing. I know that supposedly it weights a bit less than an once. But, having worn it for over an hour around my neck, I've noticed that it has no perceptible weight whatsoever.
Sound fidelity is the same as my 4G iPod's. I'm sure some people will post how the specs differ, but, to my ears, they sound the same. Fidelity is at least as good as the Apple headphones can deliver, and max volume is way too loud (so plenty of oomph).
I thought the lanyard would be a bit dorky. Maybe it is. I don't care. I love my 4G, but it is just way too easy to wear the Shuffle. Goofy or not, the lanyard keeps the controls right where you want them.
As mentioned above, if you get a shuffle, you will wear it everywhere except the shower (and that's only pending the availability of a waterproof case). It is just way too easy to bring with you. And, unlike the iPod, who cares if the case gets a scratch or two? No display to scratch, no shiny back to mar.
Apple was right. The shuffle play just seems right. I loaded off a folder of my favorites, and the shuffling is great fun. For whatever reason, when using my 4G, I want control. Here, I yield to the whims of the Shuffle, and it feels great.
Lack of a display is no big deal. Maybe some will want one. Personally, the lack of a display makes me care less about scratches, probably extends the battery life, makes it smaller, and makes me more likely to shuffle. You wear it around your neck (or, soon, on your arm). You'll not look at the display anyway.
iTunes treats the Shuffle right. Autoload is nice, reserving room for files is nice (I need Mac <-> PC transfer, and this makes it as easy as my old USB flash drive... of course).
You get a free 13-song album off of iTMS (not any 13 songs - the 13 on the album Apple put together).


Some minor cons:

I wish Apple would include something to shorten the headphone cord. The lanyard makes the headphone cord seem about a foot or so too long.
USB 2.0 (and/or the Shuffle's internals) make song loading slow - about 5 minutes to fill my 512MB version).
Audiobook use is a bit tougher (presumably - even though 98% of my iPod listening is audiobook-based, so far none of my Shuffle use is) due to lack of a display to see where in the book you are. No big deal unless you lose your place and need to forward/reverse to it more than a few minutes worth.


My advice: as soon as you see one, buy one. Figure out the justification on your way home.

Fredstar
Jan 17, 2005, 04:15 PM
Nice lil review, i am well looking forward to getting mine at mid feb some time - the wait!!
I can't remember who said this but "Only Apple and Steve Jobs could sell millions of Mp3 players that did not have a screen" :P tis true.
I think it will be the perfect 2nd to my 20gb 4th gen

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 04:16 PM
Just shoveled snow off my driveway. The iPod Shuffle worked flawlessly, got some snow on it, was exposed to ~15° F weather, kept on truckin'. I would have been afraid to bring its big brother out.

James Craner
Jan 17, 2005, 04:18 PM
JSW, Thanks for the review, I can't wait to get mine I ordered a 1GB model the day after the keynote.

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 04:20 PM
I think it will be the perfect 2nd to my 20gb 4th gen
You're so right - I think a number of Shuffle buyers will be current iPod owners. The drive-based iPods are great in that you have everything you'd ever need in your hand, but the Shuffles are something you don't need to worry about - you can drop them, you can touch them with something other than velvet gloves, you can wear them in bad weather, you can wear them while exercising.

Now, what I need is something to use my iPod as a mothership I can dock my Shuffle with. ;)

James Craner
Jan 17, 2005, 04:44 PM
You're so right - I think a number of Shuffle buyers will be current iPod owners. The drive-based iPods are great in that you have everything you'd ever need in your hand, but the Shuffles are something you don't need to worry about - you can drop them, you can touch them with something other than velvet gloves, you can wear them in bad weather, you can wear them while exercising.

Now, what I need is something to use my iPod as a mothership I can dock my Shuffle with. ;)

I agree completely mine is a companion to a 60GB iPod photo

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 04:45 PM
I agree completely mine is a companion to a 60GB iPod photo
Bastard. :p You'll probably get the 1GB Shuffle too, won't you? :D

James Craner
Jan 17, 2005, 04:53 PM
Bastard. :p You'll probably get the 1GB Shuffle too, won't you? :D

Yep - But at least you have got yours already - I am at the mercy of Apple UK's shipping.

FightTheFuture
Jan 17, 2005, 06:05 PM
My advice: as soon as you see one, buy one. Figure out the justification on your way home.
i like the way you think. thanks for the review. if i can get any discount on one i'm picking it up. i'm tired of having to worry if my arms are striding too close to my headphone cord when i'm on the treadmill - let alone if my ipod will stay on the book holder amongst the constant stomping.

i'm also tired of having to unplug the itrip when i'm leaving the car, put on the headphones, change the track, put it into my pocket blah blah blah... we're mac users, we should be able to minimize.

one thing though - i'm wondering if the "dorky" lanyard may become a big fashion statement! i cant wait to wear that around the office and annoy my coworkers. it didn't work so well with the early sony mp3 players though. :confused:

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 06:10 PM
one thing though - i'm wondering if the "dorky" lanyard may become a big fashion statement!
I'll find out tomorrow.... ;)

BTW, there's no way of telling a 512MB from a 1GB version, as far as I can tell. So, although I have the lowly (but in stock) 512MB, I can hold my head as high as a 1GB owner.

applekid
Jan 17, 2005, 06:11 PM
Anything to say about its use as a "jump drive"/flash memory drive?

I hear you have to allocate memory.

Nevertheless, I'm eyeing that 1 GB Shuffle. I might have the cash ready soon (as long as nothing comes up) :)

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 06:13 PM
Anything to say about its use as a "jump drive"/flash memory drive?

I hear you have to allocate memory.

Nevertheless, I'm eyeing that 1 GB Shuffle. I might have the cash ready soon (as long as nothing comes up) :)Piece of cake. Allocate how much you want iTunes to fill for you, and the rest is available for disk use. I'd assume that you can manually add files and music as well, but, since the key thing about the Shuffle is, well, shuffling and autoloading, it works out well that you preallocate the space.

And it works just fine as a flash drive. No faster/slower than others I remember using.

rhpenguin
Jan 17, 2005, 06:17 PM
Just shoveled snow off my driveway. The iPod Shuffle worked flawlessly, got some snow on it, was exposed to ~15 F weather, kept on truckin'. I would have been afraid to bring its big brother out.

Well i know what im buying when i goto my apple dealer tomorow to pick up my iBook. I hate taking my iPod outside in the cold and if this thing works like a champ in the cold, im all for it!

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 06:29 PM
Well i know what im buying when i goto my apple dealer tomorow to pick up my iBook. I hate taking my iPod outside in the cold and if this thing works like a champ in the cold, im all for it!
Worked great in the cold. Headphone cord gets a bit stiff, but the iPod played on. Lanyard is just cord, so it's unaffected by the cold.

stcanard
Jan 17, 2005, 07:06 PM
one thing though - i'm wondering if the "dorky" lanyard may become a big fashion statement! i cant wait to wear that around the office and annoy my coworkers. it didn't work so well with the early sony mp3 players though. :confused:

It already is -- I see a lot of flash MP3 players being worn around the neck around campus here. It's the most popular way to carry a non-iPod player.

hcuar
Jan 17, 2005, 07:18 PM
Great review JSW!!! Now I want a stinkin iPod shuffle. :(

I think we are very similar in our care for our iPods... You recommended the iSkin for my 20GB. I carried my iPod around using a telescope lens cleaner cloth until I got my iSkin. :rolleyes:

So... I was thinking the same thing... Use the shuffle for mowing the lawn, snowblowing, etc. Basically use the shuffle in places I would be fearful to use my iPod.

thecow
Jan 17, 2005, 07:24 PM
I got to hold one of these babies at my local apple store and they are so light!!! The employes had them and they were showing them off but they didn't have them in stock yet. It was almost like they were taunting you. All of the people with shuffles had a small crowd of people around them. they let everyone hold them.

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 07:27 PM
Great review JSW!!! Now I want a stinkin iPod shuffle. :(

I think we are very similar in our care for our iPods... You recommended the iSkin for my 20GB. I carried my iPod around using a telescope lens cleaner cloth until I got my iSkin. :rolleyes:

So... I was thinking the same thing... Use the shuffle for mowing the lawn, snowblowing, etc. Basically use the shuffle in places I would be fearful to use my iPod.
Exactly.

BTW, the Shuffle includes 2 white Apple stickers (some people care about such things). Also, the headphones are very slightly different (from my 4G ones and from the ones included with the inline remote I bought) - there's a "slider" on the two earbud lines; it rests at the junction where the two lines become one, and it can be slid up and down to, I suppose, tighten the lines up more snugly.

Also note that (and this is probably obvious, but I hadn't thought of it) the lanyard replaces the regular end cap, so you can attach one or the other, but not both. I assume no one on Earth will be bothered by this.

Bozola
Jan 17, 2005, 07:30 PM
I've had my 512 since Friday.

It's very cool. sounds great, very light. I have two gripes.

1. The egdes seem too sharp. Not cutting sharp, just uncomfortable sharp.
2. Looks like the switches in the back will get very dirty over time by the edges.

Note: you can tell the size of of shuffle, it's on the USB connector.

I think these things are like packs of gum at a grocery store. You just throw one at the counter/register when you check out cuz they're so cheap compared to Apple H/W at the Apple store.

BTW. It was the envy of my coworkers today!

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 07:37 PM
The employes had them and they were showing them off but they didn't have them in stock yet.
Yeah, right. They had them in stock until the employees bought all of them. :rolleyes:

hcuar
Jan 17, 2005, 07:37 PM
Exactly.

BTW, the Shuffle includes 2 white Apple stickers (some people care about such things).


Oh no!!! I care about such things. I was a little ticked, I bought an 20 GB 4G iPod and the 12" PB without getting one single white Apple sticker. :(


Also note that (and this is probably obvious, but I hadn't thought of it) the lanyard replaces the regular end cap, so you can attach one or the other, but not both. I assume no one on Earth will be bothered by this.

Actually, it might be annoying to carry around both the lanyard cap and normal cap... I'm not sure if I'd feel like the lanyard cap is a complete replacement. It probably is, however you don't realize what is going to annoy you until you own it.

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 07:38 PM
Note: you can tell the size of a shuffle, it's on the USB connector.Ah. Well, I'll be sure to keep mine capped. ;)

hcuar
Jan 17, 2005, 07:49 PM
Ah. Well, I'll be sure to keep mine capped. ;)

That comment went completely over my head until I saw your reply! I hadn't thought about identifying the 1GB versus the 512MB shuffle... Strange.

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 07:57 PM
Minor con:

The Shuffle does not pause when the headphones are removed. Not a big deal, but I like that my 4G pauses in such a situation.

Minor pro:

I have a scratch on mine. However, I could hardly care less. (the scratch isn't the pro; the attitude is)

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 08:09 PM
Oh no!!! I care about such things.
You're in luck, then, that Apple's selling them for $50 each - and you get a Shuffle if you buy two. ;)

hcuar
Jan 17, 2005, 08:20 PM
You're in luck, then, that Apple's selling them for $50 each - and you get a Shuffle if you buy two. ;)

It took me 3 reads to figure out what the heck you were talking about. ;)

It's sad, but not too long ago I would have bought a shuffle just to get the two stickers... I'm trying to be good now...

BTW: I can't believe it, but I'm at 500 posts!!!

jsw
Jan 17, 2005, 08:22 PM
BTW: I can't believe it, but I'm at 500 posts!!!
You need an avatar... a picture of your new Shuffle, perhaps? ;)

hcuar
Jan 17, 2005, 08:27 PM
You need an avatar... a picture of your new Shuffle, perhaps? ;)


I just made a tar... I just need to be able to upload it now... I cropped a part of my wallpaper I've been using since the middle of last year.

Believe it or not, but I believe someone is already using the Shuffle as their tar. I also believe i've seen a Mac Mini as a tar.

Bozola
Jan 17, 2005, 08:47 PM
Just a quick ?.. How do you know how many messages
you have posted?

Thanks

jlewis2k1
Jan 17, 2005, 08:51 PM
you can see how many posts you have posted by clicking on the poster's name and select view profile. in this case you could click on your name and it will tell you how many posts you have posted.

atari1356
Jan 18, 2005, 12:13 AM
Saving my pennies so I can replace my old 1st gen 5gig iPod with a 1Gig iPod Shuffle... :cool:

None of the other iPods made me want to upgrade from the 5gig - but strangely the Shuffle does even though it has 1/5th of the storage capacity.

virividox
Jan 18, 2005, 01:16 AM
thanks for the review

deral
Jan 18, 2005, 01:40 AM
Yey Stickers! I'm so putting it on my work's PC as a catalyst to scare away evil viruses and such.

3Memos
Jan 18, 2005, 01:47 AM
You get a free 13-song album off of iTMS (not any 13 songs - the 13 on the album Apple put together).

Thats cool. I wonder if this offer applies in Canada.

brandon6684
Jan 18, 2005, 02:53 AM
I wan't a shuffle, but my old G3 iMac only has USB 1.1, so to get any kind of usable transfer speeds I'd have to use iTunes on my PC.

zelmo
Jan 18, 2005, 07:07 AM
My advice: as soon as you see one, buy one. Figure out the justification on your way home.

Good advice there, jsw. I'll just swing by the AS today and pick me up a 512MB Shuffle and that iSight camera I've been eyeing. I'm sure the ensuing verbal flogging will be worth it! :eek:

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 07:19 AM
I wan't a shuffle, but my old G3 iMac only has USB 1.1, so to get any kind of usable transfer speeds I'd have to use iTunes on my PC.
Just keep in mind that the Shuffle transfers at barely faster than USB 1.1 speeds. Later today I'll post the USB 1.1 transfer rate (gotta run now). But I suspect that USB 1.1 won't be all that horrible.

3Memos
Jan 18, 2005, 07:21 AM
True. You can charge it up at the same you are transfering songs at USB1.1 speeds. It is not as terrible as trying to fill up 40GB on a USB1 connection. :p

brandon6684
Jan 18, 2005, 07:22 AM
Just keep in mind that the Shuffle transfers at barely faster than USB 1.1 speeds. Later today I'll post the USB 1.1 transfer rate (gotta run now). But I suspect that USB 1.1 won't be all that horrible.

I hope it's that slow, well not necessarily for it to be slow, I just hope USB 1.1 doesn't make a difference. Although if it does then I would have and easier time justifying getting a real iPod.

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 08:42 AM
Looks like it'll take ~16 minutes to fill a 512MB iPod Shuffle with USB1.1 (took ~4 minutes to do ~128MB when plugged into the USB 1.1 port on my Apple Cinema Display). So, probably, a little over a half an hour to fill the 1GB.

Roughly a third the speed of USB 2 loads.

Not fast, but since, as mentioned above, it charges as it fills, really not too bad. Plug it in, take a shower, pull it and go to class/work.

intrepkid21
Jan 18, 2005, 08:56 AM
I'm concerned with the cap that you need to remove to expose the USB interface..when changing between the lanyard cap, the regular cap, and removal of the cap, do things begin to get loose? The last thing I want is the shuffle to fall off of my neck while I'm wearing it. Is the cap reinforced with anything?

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 09:02 AM
Both caps (lanyard and plain) have ball bearings spring-loaded to press against depressions on the USB plug, so I think they'll stay tight for quite some time.

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 09:04 AM
Note:

Be sure to select the "Convert higher bit rate songs to 128 kbps..." option in preferences (iTunes iPod prefs, be sure Shuffle is selected if you have more than one iPod connected). Sounds the same, fits in more songs.

3Memos
Jan 18, 2005, 09:07 AM
Both caps (lanyard and plain) have ball bearings spring-loaded to press against depressions on the USB plug, so I think they'll stay tight for quite some time.

A thief would need to know where to press to steal it off your neck. Apple is ingenious when it comes to details like these. Same detail applies to their firewire cables that need to be depressed for the 3rd, 4th gen iPods and iPod mini.

iGary
Jan 18, 2005, 09:29 AM
Mine is supposed to ship today...can't wait to use it this weekend - I have a 14-mile training run. :D

It will be nice not to have a big iPod strapped to my arm.

nfocus design
Jan 18, 2005, 09:36 AM
i like the way you think. thanks for the review. if i can get any discount on one i'm picking it up. i'm tired of having to worry if my arms are striding too close to my headphone cord when i'm on the treadmill - let alone if my ipod will stay on the book holder amongst the constant stomping.

i'm also tired of having to unplug the itrip when i'm leaving the car, put on the headphones, change the track, put it into my pocket blah blah blah... we're mac users, we should be able to minimize.

one thing though - i'm wondering if the "dorky" lanyard may become a big fashion statement! i cant wait to wear that around the office and annoy my coworkers. it didn't work so well with the early sony mp3 players though. :confused:


You can receive $10 off coupon good at an Apple store by taking this Apple survey. You do have to spend $100 or more to use it though. I bought the 512MB shuffle and a $15 iTunes gift card to bump it over $100.

http://www.apple.com/retail/feedback/index.html

I've been wanting to use the iPod in my car without an iTrip or all those wires hanging out. I got a new stereo and the Alpine integration kit put in my car. Now I can have the iPod in my glove box and play all my music through the stereo. The iPod turns off after two minutes when you turn off the engine so you don't have to worry about it draining your car battery. It isn't cheap, but I highly recommend getting one if you have the funds.

Diatribe
Jan 18, 2005, 09:51 AM
I ordered mine already and since it had to replace my jump drive it needed to be the 1GB. It'll complement my iPod mini perfectly because it's just awesome for sports and places I don't really want to take my mini.
I think there'll be a lot of people buying this thing that already have iPods.

Now I just hope it gets here fast... :D

Nickygoat
Jan 18, 2005, 10:24 AM
Great review JSW thanks. This might be a dumb question but if you listen to it in straight playlist mode, and turn it off, does it pick up where it left off, or from the beginning? Just curious and I haven't seen anything about it. Thanks

nfocus design
Jan 18, 2005, 10:30 AM
Great review JSW thanks. This might be a dumb question but if you listen to it in straight playlist mode, and turn it off, does it pick up where it left off, or from the beginning? Just curious and I haven't seen anything about it. Thanks

It picks up where you left off. I just turned mine off in mid song and turned it back on and it picked up right where I left off.

Nickygoat
Jan 18, 2005, 10:42 AM
It picks up where you left off. I just turned mine off in mid song and turned it back on and it picked up right where I left off.
Thanks. I assumed it would - monumentally stupid for it not to. All I have to do now is monitor the London availabilty thread to see when I can get one.

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 02:05 PM
A thief would need to know where to press to steal it off your neck...
Actually, the ball bearings are inside the caps - you just pull on the caps, and they come off (but the bearings keep them from merely slipping off, or getting loose). There's no need to depress anything to steal it, but, then again, it's hanging from your neck, so I'd assume it'd be pretty obvious if someone reached for it!

3Memos
Jan 18, 2005, 02:06 PM
I would do a karate chop to the neck.

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 02:15 PM
I would do a karate chop to the neck.
Not too effective - the lanyard cord wouldn't snap. ;)

BTW, battery life is quite good; I've plugged it in a few times for song uploading, timings, etc., but, generally, it charges quickly and takes a long time to run down. Seems like the 512MB will play the entire playlist - no problems - before running out of charge, even at normal volumes.

Blue Velvet
Jan 18, 2005, 02:26 PM
I want one. Right now.

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 02:27 PM
I want one. Right now.
I can only assume you mean an iPod Shuffle. No? ;)

James Craner
Jan 18, 2005, 02:32 PM
I want one. Right now.

or up to 4 weeks from now if you haven't ordered already

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/ptech/01/18/ipod.shuffle.reut/index.html

:eek:

Blue Velvet
Jan 18, 2005, 02:36 PM
I can only assume you mean an iPod Shuffle. No? ;)

You bet!
1Gb please, my card is feeling neglected from lack of action... :D

Apple Store only 15 mins away and not a drop to drink.

And now, I almost detect an unmistakable air of smugness about your posts. Like the cat who has swallowed the cream, like the man who has his cake and is eating it right this very minute.

I hate you. :D :p

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 02:41 PM
You bet!
1Gb please, my card is getting feeling neglected from lack of action... :D
Again, sorry, born in the Midwest here, not too familiar with British/Kiwi euphemisms. I sort of understand the "lack of action" reference, not too sure of the rest of it. Come again?

Apple Store only 15 mins away and not a drop to drink.

And now, I almost detect an unmistakable air of smugness about your posts. Like the cat who has swallowed the cream, like the man who has his cake and is eating it right this very minute.

I hate you. :D :p
What? Sorry, I couldn't hear you. The volume was turned up a bit too high on my Shuffle, and I was distracted while reading my weather forecast on my 4G. :D

nfocus design
Jan 18, 2005, 02:42 PM
You bet!
1Gb please, my card is feeling neglected from lack of action... :D

Apple Store only 15 mins away and not a drop to drink.

And now, I almost detect an unmistakable air of smugness about your posts. Like the cat who has swallowed the cream, like the man who has his cake and is eating it right this very minute.

I hate you. :D :p


Well, you may not have a shuffle yet, but at least you have a big beautiful Apple store. Unlike the ones here in Texas.

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 02:45 PM
You bet!
1Gb please, my card is feeling neglected from lack of action... :D

Apple Store only 15 mins away and not a drop to drink.

And now, I almost detect an unmistakable air of smugness about your posts. Like the cat who has swallowed the cream, like the man who has his cake and is eating it right this very minute.

I hate you. :D :pDon't forget that you get to work with Macs for a living. I have to do it on the side. You win.

stcanard
Jan 18, 2005, 02:50 PM
Again, sorry, born in the Midwest here, not too familiar with British/Kiwi euphemisms. I sort of understand the "lack of action" reference, not too sure of the rest of it. Come again?

I think his credit card is feeling neglected because he hasn't used it enough

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 02:52 PM
I think his credit card is feeling neglected because he hasn't used it enough
I was just kidding Blue, who, BTW, is a woman. :)

Blue Velvet
Jan 18, 2005, 02:54 PM
Don't forget that you get to work with Macs for a living. I have to do it on the side. You win.

Hmm.. Do you think that dual 2.5ghz G5 would make a handy portable music player?

It's got the looks, admittedly... and it could hold loads of songs!
The Beastie Boys had their VW badges... it could work.

The ultimate in bling.

stcanard
Jan 18, 2005, 02:59 PM
I was just kidding Blue, who, BTW, is a woman. :)

Yeah I should pay more attention to titles...

Mr. Anderson
Jan 18, 2005, 03:02 PM
Great to hear that its a good buy. I'm probably going to buy a 1 gig version when they're available the next time I'm in Chicago or Indy :D

D

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 03:04 PM
Hmm.. Do you think that dual 2.5ghz G5 would make a handy portable music player?

It's got the looks, admittedly... and it could hold loads of songs!
The Beastie Boys had their VW badges... it could work.

The ultimate in bling.If you could wear one of those and a portable generator around your neck then, well, my mental image of you is way off base!

But it would be cool if you could pull it off - no other iPod could burn CDs for people who liked what you were listening to!

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 03:06 PM
Great to hear that its a good buy. I'm probably going to buy a 1 gig version when they're available the next time I'm in Chicago or Indy :D

D
Well, I think the 1GB would take too long to load. If you get one and get annoyed at the load times, I suppose I'd consider trading my 512MB to you for it, maybe, if I'm feeling generous, probably even at no charge to you, simply because I respect the work you do around here.

chaos86
Jan 18, 2005, 04:04 PM
I'll find out tomorrow.... ;)

BTW, there's no way of telling a 512MB from a 1GB version, as far as I can tell. So, although I have the lowly (but in stock) 512MB, I can hold my head as high as a 1GB owner.


i believe it says the capacity on the metal bit of the actual usb connecter

nfocus design
Jan 18, 2005, 04:10 PM
i believe it says the capacity on the metal bit of the actual usb connecter

You are correct. Here is a photo.

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 04:36 PM
You are correct. Here is a photo.
Hmmm.....

*** madly rubs away at metal bit with sandpaper ***

I don't see it. ;)


BTW, another plus for the Shuffle: just took a nap with it. As I was about to fall asleep, I pulled out the earphones and that was that. No worries.

baummer
Jan 18, 2005, 04:39 PM
Thanks for a great review! I just got my iPod 4GB mini...should of waited as I've used maybe just shy of 1GB so far. :)

nfocus design
Jan 18, 2005, 04:42 PM
Hmmm.....

*** madly rubs away at metal bit with sandpaper ***

I don't see it. ;)


BTW, another plus for the Shuffle: just took a nap with it. As I was about to fall asleep, I pulled out the earphones and that was that. No worries.

I can't believe you missed that little detail in your review :)
I didn't notice it at first either.

jsw
Jan 18, 2005, 04:54 PM
Thanks for a great review! I just got my iPod 4GB mini...should of waited as I've used maybe just shy of 1GB so far. :)
Hey, no worries - when you can afford it, get a Shuffle to go along with your mini. I do really like the latest iPod, but the ones with a display and hard drive have a number of advantages as well.