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iGav
Jan 19, 2005, 07:08 AM
Remember our good friend Troy (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=65784)?

Well it seems he's at it again... this time with an 'invention' that see's through walls and stuff!! :p

Is it just me... or does it look a bit 'A Team' :p

rinky dink link (http://www.baytoday.ca/content/news/details.asp?c=6657)



mpw
Jan 19, 2005, 07:26 AM
Remember our good friend Troy (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=65784)?

Well it seems he's at it again... this time with an 'invention' that see's through walls and stuff!! :p

Is it just me... or does it look a bit 'A Team' :p

rinky dink link (http://www.baytoday.ca/content/news/details.asp?c=6657)

It reminds me of a) The regular stories you hear about an ordinary bloke who makes his car run on a pint of piss at 300mph for 1,000mi and will have his invention to market in about a year then you never hear of him again. b) Every mad-professor super-villan who's invention ever so nearly destroys the world. I bet he's got a really fit looking daughter/grand-daughter/neice who just happens to be going out with an ordinary guy who by a stroke of luck is the only person who can see the potential calamity approaching and has just the right technical knowledge to save us all while still remaining cool enough to play quarter-back and be in trouble with his high-school principle, nothing serious just pranks 'n stuff.

gwuMACaddict
Jan 19, 2005, 07:40 AM
mmmm... A-Team... another quality TV show that needs to be released on DVD...

WinterMute
Jan 19, 2005, 07:55 AM
He's a bit late to the market with this, I have a device that lets me see through walls, in fact I have lots, they're called "windows"....

Do I detect a slight whiff of "scam" in this?

IMO it looks more Captain Scarlet the A-team.... :D

mpw
Jan 19, 2005, 07:58 AM
Surely any alternative to Windows is gonna get plenty support around here.

jsw
Jan 19, 2005, 11:34 AM
I think that the suit in the picture is the one he tried to sell on eBay. Perhaps, if he'd been wearing it, he'd have avoided the "malaise" caused, according to "his friends at MIT", by "splashback".

:rolleyes:

Troy Hurtubise has done the seemingly impossible with his newest invention and defied all known rules of physics, he says.
All of them? That is truly amazing. I mean, it's hard enough just to defy one stinking rule of physics, much less all of them.

Peyote
Jan 19, 2005, 02:26 PM
Riiiiiiiiiight.


Anyone else think this guy has seen Austin Powers too many times?

Mechcozmo
Jan 19, 2005, 07:18 PM
If it can see through clothes... :rolleyes:

:eek:

question fear
Jan 19, 2005, 08:09 PM
mmmm... A-Team... another quality TV show that needs to be released on DVD...

a team is on dvd. amazon.com, i can't get it to paste the link right now, but yea.

Littleodie914
Jan 19, 2005, 08:35 PM
If it can see through clothes... :rolleyes:

:eek:
Then sign me up for a box-full ;) :D :p

MacNut
Jan 20, 2005, 02:07 AM
There is another invention that will see through walls, its called a sledgehammer. :rolleyes:

armchainmstenw
Jan 20, 2005, 08:50 AM
Or a window.

Mr. Anderson
Jan 20, 2005, 09:09 AM
I don't want to buy one until it comes in a handheld.

I didn't see it mentioned there, but I'm sure its powered by cold fusion :D

D

Thomas Veil
Jan 20, 2005, 12:11 PM
Well it seems he's at it again... this time with an 'invention' that see's through walls and stuff!! :p I'll believe it when I see the pre-orders from hotel managers and college girls' basketball coaches. :rolleyes:

jsw
Jan 20, 2005, 12:15 PM
I'll believe it when I see the pre-orders from hotel managers and college girls' basketball coaches. :rolleyes:
Geraldo Rivera has already ordered one to use before opening his next vault (http://www.last-laugh.net/geraldo.htm) on live TV.

MongoTheGeek
Jan 20, 2005, 12:16 PM
He could have just made a backscatter X-Ray machine. It doesn't say that it made the walls transparent but just that he saw through them.

His "Hyde" effect has symptoms similar to mild radiation poisoning...

I would love to see this gizmo in action though. Provided I was wearing a lead cup...

jsw
Jan 20, 2005, 12:23 PM
He could have just made a backscatter X-Ray machine. It doesn't say that it made the walls transparent but just that he saw through them.

His "Hyde" effect has symptoms similar to mild radiation poisoning...

I would love to see this gizmo in action though. Provided I was wearing a lead cup...
The article implies that the walls become transparent:
Hurtubise said he could see into the garage behind his lab wall, and read the licence plate on his wife's car and even see the salt on it.

"I almost broke my knuckles three or four times, because it was almost like you could step through the wall," Hurtubise said.

"You could be fooled into believing that you could actually walk through the wall and go touch the car."
And, really, do you think a simple X-ray machine would require all of this:
The main unit, which Hurtubise calls the centrifuge, contains the Angel Light’s brains and includes black, white, red and fluorescent light sources, as well as seven industrial lasers.

The second unit, or the deflector grid, contains a large circle of optical glass, a microwave unit and plasma intermixed with carbon dioxide.

The third unit contains eight plasma light rods, CO2 charges, industrial magnets, 108 mirrors, eight ionization cells industrial lights, and other components Hurtubise chooses to remain tight-lipped about.
I mean, it has seven industrial lasers and eight plasma light rods. That must be how it works. :rolleyes:

Mr. Anderson
Jan 20, 2005, 12:44 PM
Hurtubise said he could see into the garage behind his lab wall, and read the licence plate on his wife's car and even see the salt on it.


The thing is, if this actually happened, why isn't there video or a picture of it? Riiiight.....

And if you have two of them and cross the beams what happens?

D

question fear
Jan 20, 2005, 12:49 PM
And if you have two of them and cross the beams what happens?

D


you destroy the stay puft marshmellow man and gozer.

iGav
Jan 20, 2005, 01:09 PM
And if you have two of them and cross the beams what happens?

brilliant... :p :p :p :p :p :p

SuperChuck
Jan 20, 2005, 01:16 PM
Uhm, if it destroys anything that is set in its path, wouldn't that make this a bad thing? If I thought it was real, I'd be a little scared.

Peyote
Jan 20, 2005, 03:28 PM
you destroy the stay puft marshmellow man and gozer.


But Egon, I thought you said, "Never cross the streams!"

Peyote
Jan 20, 2005, 03:30 PM
I think the questions we all really want to know now that such a device has been invented are:



A) Will it help me download porn faster?


B) Does this mean the Powerbook G5's are here?



EDIT: WOOHOO! 500th post!

wdlove
Jan 20, 2005, 04:38 PM
I wish that there would have been a picture of what the view is like. Until this becomes a little more portable, it won't be very useful.

Mac|caM
Jan 20, 2005, 09:29 PM
I'm not as skeptical as the rest of you. Maybe it's just the conspiracy-theorist in me coming out, but I think it's plausible. It'd be pretty cool if it was. I don't think France would pay him $40,000 bucks if it wasn't at least partly for real.

jsw
Jan 20, 2005, 09:39 PM
I don't think France would pay him $40,000 bucks if it wasn't at least partly for real.
You assume France actually paid him $40,000 (in cash, to boot).

Mr. Anderson
Jan 20, 2005, 09:43 PM
I'm not as skeptical as the rest of you. Maybe it's just the conspiracy-theorist in me coming out, but I think it's plausible. It'd be pretty cool if it was. I don't think France would pay him $40,000 bucks if it wasn't at least partly for real.

Simple pictures of the thing working would be all you'd need. $40k is nothing and who says they actually paid him.

Sure, there is a slim chance that this could be real, but the whole thing just smells bad. It would be in the news internationally in minutes if it was viable. And portability isn't even an issue here. If you can put it in a van and have it work from 100 yards you've got a really good thing here.

Not only for special ops, but for police and search and rescue. Imagine being able to use this to find people trapped under collapsed buildings after an earth quake? The potential for this is way too big - and I'm going to be skeptical until I see some proof....or a Nobel Prize :p

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snkTab
Jan 20, 2005, 10:19 PM
He directed the Angel Light beam toward the sky and started the plane flying.
Hah!!! Pointing lasers at the sky, notify the feds


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why not show it actually doing what it says

“That’s when I realized there was a Hyde effect, as in Jekyll and Hyde, and I dismantled the whole thing.”

because it was only not going to make you a billionaire

Thomas Veil
Jan 21, 2005, 01:37 AM
Just for the record, there was a video camera that Sony came out with about ten years ago that incorporated some new low-light or infrared (I forget) technology. It was quickly pulled from the market when it was discovered that it could actually see through thin clothing. But for a very short time, it was extremely popular with guys who frequented beaches.

maya
Jan 21, 2005, 02:11 AM
He has created a "Death Ray Gun". :eek: :( :p :rolleyes: :)

MongoTheGeek
Jan 21, 2005, 12:27 PM
Just for the record, there was a video camera that Sony came out with about ten years ago that incorporated some new low-light or infrared (I forget) technology. It was quickly pulled from the market when it was discovered that it could actually see through thin clothing. But for a very short time, it was extremely popular with guys who frequented beaches.

Many digital cameras can do that. The thing is that visible light swamps IR so you need a special filter that lets IR through but stops visible. The same effect can be achieved with with IR sensitive film, shot with the same filter.

There are some art sights out there where people use it to get some spectacular effects (things just look different and odd not so much looking through the clothes.) There are also some porn sites.

Information Unlimited used to carry plans for near IR video cameras.

jayscheuerle
Jan 21, 2005, 02:08 PM
If this thing sees through walls or clothes or whatever, how does it know when to quit seeing through stuff? Why would it be able to see through a layer of sheetrock, some wooden studs, another layer of sheetrock and yet not the lamp on the table behind it?

Shoudn't it be just like a giant anti-flashlight, with a dark beam that reveals the black nothingness that lies behind the furthest thing away (stars and such)?

Is it a perfectly focused beam, or do the edges fade off to opaqueness?

Not much to go on here...

jayscheuerle
Jan 21, 2005, 02:10 PM
Not only for special ops, but for police and search and rescue. Imagine being able to use this to find people trapped under collapsed buildings after an earth quake? The potential for this is way too big - and I'm going to be skeptical until I see some proof....or a Nobel Prize :p

D

Come on! why wouldn't it just see through the people as well?

Thomas Veil
Jan 21, 2005, 02:45 PM
If this thing sees through walls or clothes or whatever, how does it know when to quit seeing through stuff?Good point.

Why don't we ask Ray Milland? ;)

jayscheuerle
Jan 21, 2005, 03:01 PM
Good point.

Why don't we ask Ray Milland? ;)

THAT took a bit to hunt down...

Maybe he's hiding in front of the beam? :D

maya
Jan 21, 2005, 03:31 PM
THAT took a bit to hunt down...

Maybe he's hiding in front of the beam? :D


No no nO, that would make the gun an "invisible ray gun" then. ;) :)

jayscheuerle
Jan 21, 2005, 03:41 PM
No no nO, that would make the gun an "invisible ray gun" then. ;) :)

So, you can see through him, but he's not invisible? Hmmm... Even if he's transparent, wouldn't his higher density cause him to have a higher refractive index? Then, the invisible surface curves would also cause distortions and magnifications of the objects behind him... All without surface reflections of course.

Did this guy think this thing out at all? It's obvious to me that this thing causes headaches!

maya
Jan 21, 2005, 04:02 PM
So, you can see through him, but he's not invisible? Hmmm... Even if he's transparent, wouldn't his higher density cause him to have a higher refractive index? Then, the invisible surface curves would also cause distortions and magnifications of the objects behind him... All without surface reflections of course.

Did this guy think this thing out at all? It's obvious to me that this thing causes headaches!

This concept did come to him in a DREAM. ;) :)

Maybe its all just a dream. ;) :p

Yvan256
Jan 22, 2005, 10:18 AM
There is another invention that will see through walls, its called a sledgehammer. :rolleyes:

Not only does it allow you to see through walls, it also creates a permanent opening! :D