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IJ Reilly
Jan 19, 2005, 06:29 PM
One of her better rants. Sorry for the length.

By Arianna Huffington

When pressed by The Washington Post last week about why no one in his administration has been held accountable for the myriad failures in Iraq, President Bush sounded uncannily like Will Forte's petulant caricature on "Saturday Night Live": "Well, we had an accountability moment — and that's called the 2004 election."

There was no word on whether the president then put his thumb on his nose and wiggled his fingers or just went with the more efficient single middle finger.

In the next few weeks, Democrats in Congress will have an "accountability moment" of their own — George Bush's request for another $80 to $100 billion in supplemental funding for the war in Iraq.

This will be the third time since the war began that the president has come to the Hill looking to refill his Iraqi coffers. The last two times, congressional Democrats helped rubber-stamp his requests, forking over $152 billion in military funding.

The time has come for Democratic leaders to say: "Not this time, Mr. President."

First they need to admit that they were wrong. Wrong to trust the president and wrong to allow him to put our troops in harm's way without a plan for post-Saddam Iraq, without significant allies (sorry Bulgaria), and without an exit strategy.

It can be Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi or the just-back-from-Iraq John Kerry or the ranking Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee, David Obey — but somebody with a (D) after his or her name needs to demand a straight answer to specific questions. Questions like: Mr. President, what are our long-term goals in Iraq? Are they realistic? How long will it take — and how many more billions will have to be spent — to reach them? What are our total casualty figures and how many more casualties are we willing to endure? Are we or are we not committed to a permanent presence there?

Democrats should begin the appropriations debate by demanding, at long last, a realistic assessment of the situation. While the president continues sounding like a happy-talk local weatherman, forever optimistic that the insurgency's torrential RPG and IED showers will soon be giving way to loads of sunny freedom and democracy, some high-profile Republicans — perhaps looking to their legacies, or maybe just sick of the condescending lies — are offering a gloomy forecast.

Outgoing Secretary of State Colin Powell, for example, recently told the president, "We're losing." And Brent Scowcroft, the outgoing head of the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, warned that the Iraqi elections "have the great potential for deepening the conflict." So which is it, Mr. President? Are we about to witness Iraq's 1776 (with Grand Ayatollah Sistani taking on the role of Thomas Jefferson) or about to find ourselves smack in the bloody middle of a Shiite vs. Sunni holy civil war?

Democrats should then demand that the president explain his exit strategy and how long he thinks it will take before our troops come home. The White House originally figured we'd be in and out before the flowers tossed at the liberators' feet had wilted. That fantasy soon gave way to the notion that things would be better once we captured Saddam. Then once sovereignty was transferred ("Let freedom feign!"). Then once elections were held.

Now they're certain they'll be better, uh, when they get better. "Clearly, we don't see the election itself as a pivotal point," Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage suddenly announced last week. "It's the beginning of a process where Iraqis will write a constitution and at the end of the year will actually vote for a permanent government." So now it's when Iraqis vote for a "permanent government" — which is precisely what many Arabs in the Middle East are afraid of. As a high-ranking Jordanian official told me: "When the mullahs take over, the election will turn out to have been one person, one vote, one time."

The Democrats should also do everything in their admittedly diminished power to try to place some conditions on this next round of funding before they vote. That is, after all, their job. The one they've sworn an oath to do.

For starters, they should demand an answer to the question: How do you propose to pay for the $100 billion? Will the president consider rolling back the tax cuts he gave the top 1 percent of American taxpayers, asking them to sacrifice in the name of freedom and democracy? (Yeah, right!) Or will he just add another hundred bil to the mounting tab he's running up for future generations?

Democrats should also link the money to a pledge from the administration that the first dollars spent will go toward making sure our troops have everything they need, including body armor, fully-armored Humvees, GPS devices, and equipment to jam the signals insurgents use to activate the remote-controlled explosives that have caused the death and mutilation of so many young Americans. The Democrats should force the president to put our money where his lip service is.

They should also take the opportunity to turn the spotlight on the epidemic of fraud and corporate profiteering that have infected the Iraqi operation. The White House has to explain why taxpayers should cut it another $100 billion check when the money we've already forked over has been so poorly spent, much of it by administration cronies. According to the Center for Strategic and International Studies, just 27 cents of every dollar earmarked for the rebuilding of Iraq is reaching ordinary Iraqis, with the rest being pocketed by big U.S. corporations.

What's more, nearly two years after we toppled Saddam, the people of Iraq still have to deal with massive food shortages, less electrical power than before the war, and disease-producing water and sewage systems. At the very least, Democrats should demand that Congress pass the bipartisan resolution co-sponsored by Sens. Dick Durbin and Larry Craig calling for the formation of a special committee modeled on the one Harry Truman created during WW II to root out war profiteering.

And, finally, Democrats should force the president to address the question of whether the 14 "enduring bases" we're constructing around Iraq indicate plans to make a U.S. military presence there permanent. Even Bush family fixer James Baker is concerned about the message being sent by the bases: "Any appearance of a permanent occupation will both undermine domestic support here in the United States and play directly into the hands of those in the Middle East who — however wrongly — suspect us of imperial design."

Weren't U.S. bases in Saudi Arabia what initially caused Osama bin Laden to set his murderous sights on America? Bush needs to send an unequivocal message that there will be no long-term American military presence in Iraq. He can begin by getting rid of the clause in the interim Iraqi constitution that allows the U.S. to set up permanent bases. Does sovereign mean sovereign or doesn't it?

The Democratic leadership has a responsibility to act as the loyal opposition and not just throw up its hands and sign off on the funding. I realize that they are outnumbered and can't actually stop the White House from getting its way — but the moral power of making a stand is critically important, especially coming after an election in which even staunch Democrats sometimes wondered what precisely their party stood for. What better way for Democrats to set the stage for the 2006 campaign than by forcing the Bush administration to level with the American people?

But the more I hear from congressional Democrats, the graver are my concerns about how ready they are for their accountability moment close-up. Take Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the new head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. This weekend, when Tim Russert asked whether, knowing there are no WMD in Iraq, he would still have voted for the war had he been in Congress, Emanuel went all John-Kerry-at-the-Grand-Canyon and answered "Yes." I actually had to get the transcript to make sure I hadn't misheard. I hadn't.

And it isn't just Emanuel. Judging from conversations I've had with a number of other congressional Democrats, it doesn't appear that there is a strategy — let alone a clear one — for how to deal with the appropriations request. As one House member told me, "We haven't even started thinking about it yet." Well, what have they been doing? Deciding what to wear to the inauguration of the guy who beat them because they "hadn't even started thinking about it" last year either?

The American people — especially those being asked to put their lives on the line in Iraq — deserve better than that.



skunk
Jan 19, 2005, 06:35 PM
Ooohh, she's got a way with words, that one! Some good questions there.

mactastic
Jan 19, 2005, 06:42 PM
But if you don't rubber stamp the authorization for $$ you better be prepared to defend yourself and your Congressional seat against charges that you don't support the troops ala the John-Kerry-repeatedly-voted-against-critical-weapons-systems charges that the GOP will level.

Democrats seem to have lost all semblance of a spine. They are so afraid of having to face those kinds of charges that they will go along with anything Bush wants. It made me sick when they (almost) all voted to authorize the war in the first place, and it makes me sick that they are so afraid of being portrayed as not supporting the troops that they will still roll over and give Bush anything he wants.

Maybe we should replace the Dems in Congress with friendly dogs. You know, the kind that roll over and show their stomach in submission whenever you get near them. At least the dogs would be cute. And you can't stay mad at a dog for long... :rolleyes:

Edit: The loss of Paul Wellstone is becoming larger every day that no one fills his shoes. Not that anyone truly could, but someone needs to try.

Desertrat
Jan 20, 2005, 02:19 PM
But would not a pullout from Iraq be a clear message to all those in sympathy with Al Qaida et al that they won? That the US is indeed a paper tiger? And would they then not step up their efforts against anybody who's allied with us? And would that not provide encouragement to those who hate Israelis because they're Jews?

The ripple effect of a pullout, IMO, would include encouragement for Iran's nuclear and rocket program. It would probably lead to chaos following the end of the House of Saud, no matter one's repugnance to that regime. It would give strong encouragement, seems to me, of all those desiring rule by Sharia...

People have said that a pullout would lead to civil war in Iraq. Now, it might thereafter be quite satisfying to bash the U.S. for that, but wouldn't that mean ignoring the fact that multitudes of dead Iraqis otherwise remain alive?

It seems to me that whether one is for or against the efforts in Iraq, or is just plumb bored by it all, it is a real problem that we're just flat-out stuck with in a long-haul effort.

And from her writings, I've not seen that Arianna Huffington has had an original thought since puberty, and those thoughts weren't really original...

'Rat

IJ Reilly
Jan 20, 2005, 03:05 PM
'Rat, please point out where in this column Huffington is calling for a pullout. She is asking for honesty and accountability from the White House, which it seems to me, is something we've deserved all along. I will count your vote as being against it, and promise to wonder less in the future how the administration gets away with being so shifty and evasive.

miloblithe
Jan 20, 2005, 03:07 PM
The key is overstretch. The last time we overstretched and failed spectacularly was in Vietnam. In the late 1970s, it appeared that the Soviets were winning the battle for the third world, so much so that it emboldened them to embark on their last effort at overstretch in Afghanistan, which, along with numerous other factors, brought down the Soviet Union.

What am I saying? We've lost. Let's admit it, put our tail between our legs, and go home. Like Vietnam, it'll be a major hit to the US in power, prestige, and influence. It will also appear to be a weakening of US security. It will embolden those who we claim to be fighting against, and weaken those we claim to support. But, as with the USSR, these temporary victors will sooner or later be exposed in their fundamental weaknesses.

I think the US can survive another humilation. I don't think those countries in the Middle East can.

Desertrat
Jan 20, 2005, 09:37 PM
No money = no stay = pullout.

Bush has clearly stated what he's trying to do. Why is there any doubt as to his aims and hopes? But, it takes money to achieve his goals in Iraq.

To me, the argument is over whether or not it's doable. miloblithe is convinced it's not. I'm not convinced either way, really, although I'm not yet all that pessimistic--but I think it's too early to tell, either way.

There ARE other views, as seen in the article in

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453389.0680555557.html

Interesting read.

'Rat

Ugg
Jan 20, 2005, 10:54 PM
No money = no stay = pullout.

Bush has clearly stated what he's trying to do. Why is there any doubt as to his aims and hopes? But, it takes money to achieve his goals in Iraq.

To me, the argument is over whether or not it's doable. miloblithe is convinced it's not. I'm not convinced either way, really, although I'm not yet all that pessimistic--but I think it's too early to tell, either way.

There ARE other views, as seen in the article in

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453389.0680555557.html

Interesting read.

'Rat

Well, I made it about half way and then had to stop. His continual rant about the lack of good media coverage, especially in Fallulaja is a joke. Unless I'm mistaken, the media was NOT allowed into Falluja before, during or after major fighting, along with aid convoys, but that's another story. Also, his statements that they are killing terrorists right and left along with your statement that many more Iraqis are alive because Saddam is out of power is another joke.

Where are the names of all these terrorists, a list of age, gender, religious background etc? Or are all bodies automatically toe tagged "terrorist"? How many have died both directly and indirectly as a result of the US occupation? Water, access to health care, lack of electricity/refrigeration, schools etc are in very short supply and the first two are killing people right and left. The US is not interested in giving out any of this information because it only underlines the lack of a postwar plan and the fact that the continued brutal occupation is only exacerbating the growth of the insurgents. It also reminds me of that infamous Vietnam statement, " We had to destroy the village to save it"

IJ Reilly
Jan 21, 2005, 02:12 AM
The doubt comes from past performance, or the lack thereof. The need to insure accountability comes from the history of a lack of same. Nobody in government deserves to be issued a blank check for anything.

So who sounds like the conservative now?

mactastic
Jan 21, 2005, 10:39 AM
No money = no stay = pullout.

If you think her point was that Democrats should de-fund the war effort you didn't get it.

This line should help you:The Democrats should also do everything in their admittedly diminished power to try to place some conditions on this next round of funding before they vote.

She's arguing for accountability, and some straight answers about what our exit strategy is, and what our goals in Iraq are. She argues that Congress needs to highlight fraud and waste in government. Haven't I heard you argue this very same point when it comes to social programs, and just about every other government effort?

IJ Reilly
Jan 21, 2005, 10:50 AM
My jaw is on the floor right now. The counter-argument to what Huffington is saying is apparently that the Bush administration should not be held accountable for its actions, and even more startling, that they're not even capable of accountability.

A blank check and blind faith. Yikes. :eek:

blackfox
Jan 21, 2005, 11:13 AM
So who sounds like the conservative now?Although the rest of the post gave the appropriate context, I highlighted just this line for it's power.

This made me laugh, in the nervous, cynical way. It really is a topsy-turvy world, when the GOP are more like the popular-concept of Liberals and the Democrats are more like the Conservatives.

I believe there are a lot of confused people out there, both as citizens and as members of government. I guess that is why faith is so popular right now, as there is hardly a rational, logical leg to stand on...

Black is the new white.

IJ Reilly
Jan 21, 2005, 11:35 AM
Although the rest of the post gave the appropriate context, I highlighted just this line for it's power.

This made me laugh, in the nervous, cynical way. It really is a topsy-turvy world, when the GOP are more like the popular-concept of Liberals and the Democrats are more like the Conservatives.

I believe there are a lot of confused people out there, both as citizens and as members of government. I guess that is why faith is so popular right now, as there is hardly a rational, logical leg to stand on...

Black is the new white.

I think some people mistook yesterday's events for a coronation.

takao
Jan 21, 2005, 11:40 AM
I think some people mistook yesterday's events for a coronation.

looking at the final price i think they are excused...