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jw3571
Dec 8, 2010, 02:49 PM
I keep going back and forth between the MBA and MBPro. I think its' obvious the pro has beefed components, but my problem is to get the pro with a SSD costs $400 more than the air. It's hard to justify spending $400 more when the Pro is due for the update. I think i'm going to get the air with the thinking that if the pro is updated and there is something I really have to have I can sell the air for more than the pro since it's the newer technology. Does that make sense?



KPOM
Dec 8, 2010, 02:55 PM
Going with the Air sounds like a reasonable course of action. The Pro is likely to get the Core i-series soon. The current version looks uncompetitive, and the price of an SSD upgrade is about the same as the price of a good third party SSD, so to me that would make more sense if you did get the Pro (that way you'd get a spare hard drive out of it that you could use for backup purposes).

emptyCup
Dec 8, 2010, 02:58 PM
It's hard to justify spending $400 more when the Pro is due for the update.

You could wait for the update.

jw3571
Dec 8, 2010, 03:19 PM
I know I could wait, but I really want to get one now. Besides, the air may be just fine. I'm not a real heavy user.

Mike84
Dec 8, 2010, 03:23 PM
I know I could wait, but I really want to get one now. Besides, the air may be just fine. I'm not a real heavy user.

You know what is funny, I started a thread earlier today on the macbook pro section asking the same thing. I just pulled the trigger and got the air. I think I made the right choice.

robby818
Dec 8, 2010, 03:25 PM
Is $400 Apple's cost for the SSD upgrade? You can go with a n 80 GB Intel SSD for much less.

Still, I'd lean towards a MBA if you are not a heavy user and have another computer with lots of disk space to use as your other machine.

linkandzelda
Dec 8, 2010, 03:58 PM
I was like this a while back, in the end I went with the Air seeing as my choice was either get the Air now, or wait for the next refresh as the current MBP is not so good as it was a couple of months ago... The Air just beats it hands down. The new refresh will likely have an SSD in it too hopefully for a lower price than $400..

s2dio
Dec 8, 2010, 03:58 PM
I say get the Air, preferably the "ultimate" model -- it's powerful enough (could be even more powerful than today's mbp 13"), and you'll be really happy with its weight, which really lets you take it with you with no problem (with the 2kg mbp you'll probably think twice).

tivoboy
Dec 8, 2010, 04:09 PM
Why can't I get the upgraded processor in the 13" with the 128GB SSD? Only on the super ultimate model?

I really don't feel like paying 300$ for 128GB extra SSD, but would pay for the upgraded processor,

CBraish
Dec 8, 2010, 04:11 PM
I know exactly what you mean. I was on the fence two weeks ago but I just ran with the Air. I am so glad I did. It really can handle almost anything you can throw at it. Office 2011 works fine and I'm gonna try installing Adobe CS5 soon. Hope this helps! :)

Truffy
Dec 8, 2010, 04:39 PM
I'm not a real heavy user.
So why are you even considering the heavier machine? Sounds like the MBA is perfect for you.:confused:

w4rmk
Dec 8, 2010, 05:08 PM
If you want an SSD in an MBPro, but it with the smallest/cheapest hard drive and install your own SSD which have dropped in price considerably in recent months.

Meric
Dec 8, 2010, 10:47 PM
I keep going back and forth between the MBA and MBPro. I think its' obvious the pro has beefed components, but my problem is to get the pro with a SSD costs $400 more than the air. It's hard to justify spending $400 more when the Pro is due for the update. I think i'm going to get the air with the thinking that if the pro is updated and there is something I really have to have I can sell the air for more than the pro since it's the newer technology. Does that make sense?

if you want a mbp , WAIT

if you want a mba, order now!

Meric
Dec 8, 2010, 10:50 PM
Why can't I get the upgraded processor in the 13" with the 128GB SSD? Only on the super ultimate model?

I really don't feel like paying 300$ for 128GB extra SSD, but would pay for the upgraded processor,

I could have done the same if there was a $ 100 cpu upgrade...but...

2.13 cpu is only 10 % faster... doesn't worth for 100 bucks...

memory upgrade does worth the 100 bucks...

use the $ 100 towards an external hard drive + mba case/skin

stockscalper
Dec 9, 2010, 07:25 AM
Just did a comparison of the MBA and 15" MBP in the local Apple store. Played around with both of them and kept getting beach balls on the Pro. The Air was snappy and felt a whole lot faster. Plus the Pro felt like a brick after spending some time handling the Air. What's ironic is that the new Pro's are about a pound lighter than the old 15" MBP that I'll be replacing. Ended up ordering the BTO Air.

Beanoir
Dec 9, 2010, 08:10 AM
Just did a comparison of the MBA and 15" MBP in the local Apple store. Played around with both of them and kept getting beach balls on the Pro. The Air was snappy and felt a whole lot faster. Plus the Pro felt like a brick after spending some time handling the Air. What's ironic is that the new Pro's are about a pound lighter than the old 15" MBP that I'll be replacing. Ended up ordering the BTO Air.

I'd say it's an unfair comparison as one has an SSD and the other most probably didn't. Spec an MBP with an SSD like the Air has and surely there is no contest.

dmelgar
Dec 9, 2010, 10:41 AM
I'd say it's an unfair comparison as one has an SSD and the other most probably didn't. Spec an MBP with an SSD like the Air has and surely there is no contest.

Youre right. Spec the MBP with an SSD and the price comparison will be no contest.

Beanoir
Dec 9, 2010, 10:46 AM
Youre right. Spec the MBP with an SSD and the price comparison will be no contest.

very true, not sure what the difficult decision is all about then!?

wirelessmacuser
Dec 9, 2010, 11:00 AM
It sounds like the problem is the inability to determine what you _need_ vs. what you want.

I'm guessing this is primarily for play, not work. When I need a computer for work, it must perform very specific functions. Those generally dictate what I _need_.

Apple plays to this human trait. They've refined their ability to CONvince people they need something they could do just fine without.

dime21
Dec 9, 2010, 11:18 AM
So why are you even considering the heavier machine? Sounds like the MBA is perfect for you.:confused:
x2, I don't understand the dilemma.

If you're a light user, just Web, Office, Email and such, get the Air.

If you're a heavy user, 3D Games, Apple Pro Apps, get the Pro.

bowlerman625
Dec 9, 2010, 11:37 AM
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Get the Air, you know you wanna!

Scarpad
Dec 9, 2010, 11:42 AM
Got a maxed out 13" No Regrets love it.

potentpotable
Dec 9, 2010, 02:10 PM
Is $400 Apple's cost for the SSD upgrade? You can go with a n 80 GB Intel SSD for much less.

Still, I'd lean towards a MBA if you are not a heavy user and have another computer with lots of disk space to use as your other machine.

Agreed. Do you care more about portability, or better capacity for heavy workloads (Photoshop, etc)?

Your decision will only get harder when the new Pro comes out and there's no optical drive. :P

miata
Dec 9, 2010, 03:32 PM
I'm not sure why you are even considering the MBP. It is only going to be faster if you can take advantage of more RAM, heavily use ethernet or have lots of external storage.

cleric
Dec 9, 2010, 03:58 PM
I'm not sure why you are even considering the MBP. It is only going to be faster if you can take advantage of more RAM, heavily use ethernet or have lots of external storage.

Lots of external storage that needs to be access at high transfer rates >20MB/s to be exact :cool:

loslosbaby
Dec 9, 2010, 05:20 PM
For me, the choice is now clear: I love my MBA13 to death.

I came from at MBP-17 pre-unibody, 2.5/4/500, and I LOVED that machine. This machine kicks its butt all the way around except for ports.

SO...I use the drobo via USB. One USB port would have been terminal, but, I develop all day on this thing with an attached large monitor and it ROCKS.

(then I get to unplug it and walk around the house with it and use it an "iPad for grownups with more than two fingers"). Its awesome. My GF's MBP-13 is a tank compared to this.

G.

mule...
Dec 9, 2010, 05:52 PM
hello everyone, im a long time lurker on these forums but have been obsessing about this decision for the last few days.

ive wanted an the entry mbp 13 for months, now im in a position to finally get it, im looking at the mba 13 - 4gb - 128 gb more and more.

im not a heavy user, just internet, email, word processing, some light gaming and may record some song ideas now and then in garageband.

the way i see it is that the mba is massively tailored to exactly what i want (and looks the dogs whiskers) but at the expense of some peripheral features that i may or may not ever use.

the trouble im having is that the mbp is cheaper and broadly better, mba is a bit more and focuses on exactly what i need. geekbench doesnt help the matter with mbp at 3358 and mba at 3003.

i know i wont miss the difference but paying 200 more for something that is essentially less after saving for so long im finding hard to justify.

i guess the grass is always greener on the otherside, i just happen to be sitting on the fence!

tivoboy
Dec 9, 2010, 06:08 PM
You CAN'T think of the MBA as "less", you get MORE in the fact that it is lighter, has a really beautiful screen, better contrast and less GLARE IMHO than the MBP 13" (which I just bought for my nephew, so I got a chance to spend some time with it)

The MBA is just really really nice (I have the 13" 128GB and will buy another for the GF for xmas with 4GB RAM)

Yes, it is more, but we pay more for things like lighter, thinner, etc.

miata
Dec 9, 2010, 06:11 PM
You CAN'T think of the MBA as "less", you get MORE in the fact that it is lighter, has a really beautiful screen, better contrast and less glass IMHO than the MBP 13" (which I just bought for my nephew, so I got a chance to spend some time with it)

The MBA is just really really nice (I have the 13" 128GB and will buy another for the GF for xmas with 4GB RAM)

Yes, it is more, but we pay more for things like lighter, thinner, etc.
Less is only more if you want less:)

mule...
Dec 9, 2010, 06:16 PM
You CAN'T think of the MBA as "less", you get MORE in the fact that it is lighter, has a really beautiful screen, better contrast and less glass IMHO than the MBP 13" (which I just bought for my nephew, so I got a chance to spend some time with it)

The MBA is just really really nice (I have the 13" 128GB and will buy another for the GF for xmas with 4GB RAM)

Yes, it is more, but we pay more for things like lighter, thinner, etc.

well put. i am leaning towards the mba because it seems so well suited to my needs. by the time i pull the trigger the mbp update will probably be released and cause more head scratching! buuut this update will probably push up the price of mbp's right?

Pete A
Dec 9, 2010, 06:20 PM
hello everyone, im a long time lurker on these forums but have been obsessing about this decision for the last few days.

ive wanted an the entry mbp 13 for months, now im in a position to finally get it, im looking at the mba 13 - 4gb - 128 gb more and more.

im not a heavy user, just internet, email, word processing, some light gaming and may record some song ideas now and then in garageband.

the way i see it is that the mba is massively tailored to exactly what i want (and looks the dogs whiskers) but at the expense of some peripheral features that i may or may not ever use.

the trouble im having is that the mbp is cheaper and broadly better, mba is a bit more and focuses on exactly what i need. geekbench doesnt help the matter with mbp at 3358 and mba at 3003.

i know i wont miss the difference but paying 200 more for something that is essentially less after saving for so long im finding hard to justify.

i guess the grass is always greener on the otherside, i just happen to be sitting on the fence!

The new MBA 13" (1.86/4/128 SSD) is not "essentially less" than the current MBP 13". It is the best there is for the usage you describe.

My rant on this subject is #12 here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1060462

tivoboy
Dec 9, 2010, 06:39 PM
well put. i am leaning towards the mba because it seems so well suited to my needs. by the time i pull the trigger the mbp update will probably be released and cause more head scratching! buuut this update will probably push up the price of mbp's right?

I wouldn't expect MBP's to go UP in price. I think apple will find a way to

A:) keep pricing static
B:) get new features in, while taking others out
c:) increase margin

mule...
Dec 9, 2010, 06:49 PM
The new MBA 13" (1.86/4/128 SSD) is not "essentially less" than the current MBP 13". It is the best there is for the usage you describe.

My rant on this subject is #12 here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1060462

Aah yes, i remember reading this - it started these musings. I will be going for the mba, the mbp seemed right for so long, but no more.

Thanks for your help