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guitargoddsjm
Dec 12, 2010, 11:17 PM
Hey all, I'm thinking about doing small amounts of guitar recording; I have a tight budget, so I'd like to avoid purchasing anything if possible (although I understand this may not be realistic).

In the past when I recorded with a friend's digital mixer, we mic'd the amps, fed this into the mixer, and the mixer connected to my laptop via USB. Unfortunately, I don't own a digital audio interface.

What I'd really like to do is connect my Fender Cyber-Twin 2x12 (original, not the SE) directly to my computer. Here is a picture of the back of the amp:
http://www.sound1.no/images/fender/forsterkere/cybertwin/fender_cyber_twin_back.jpg

The connections I think may work are:

Amp headphones jack (1/4") > 1/4M to 1/8F converter > 1/8" stereo cable > Macbook Pro line-in
Amp XLR out (there's a toggle switch for mono) > XLR to 1/8" cable > Macbook Pro line-in
Amp SPDIF output > ??? > Macbook Pro line-in


Would any of these work? Would any of these work well? Any other advice/suggestions?

Thanks in advice!



Jolly Jimmy
Dec 13, 2010, 12:00 AM
The best sounding of the 3 would be to use the digital SPDIF output, provided your MBP has separate input/output connections (The combined input/ouput version found on the 13" MBP's can only do digital out). You will need :

Converts the digital signal from the amp to an optical signal (http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Audio-Coaxial-Toslink-Converter/dp/B001622FL8)

Cable between amp and converter (http://www.amazon.com/Coaxial-Audio-Digital-Subwoofer-Composite/dp/B001XOTF9Y)

Cable between converter and mac (http://www.amazon.com/6ft-Toslink-Mini-Cable/dp/B000FMXKC8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1292219152&sr=1-5)

For 15-20$ you you'll achieve a much better sound than if you use the analog line-in on you MBP.

guitargoddsjm
Dec 13, 2010, 12:12 AM
For 15-20$ you you'll achieve a much better sound than if you use the analog line-in on you MBP.

Do you mean for $15-20 I can get the converter and cables and use the digital line-in of my (15") Macbook Pro (i.e., take the SPDIF route)?

Jolly Jimmy
Dec 13, 2010, 12:13 AM
Yes

guitargoddsjm
Dec 13, 2010, 12:27 AM
Cool. Would I get significantly better quality if I used an audio interface?

Jolly Jimmy
Dec 13, 2010, 07:18 AM
To get similar results you'd need to spend a fair bit more.

zimv20
Dec 13, 2010, 07:30 AM
Cool. Would I get significantly better quality if I used an audio interface?

you would get a different sound if you went with a more conventional mic'ing technique. you'd get the sound of the room, the sound of the mic, and the sound of the mic pre.

i like those things, but ymmv.

ChrisA
Dec 13, 2010, 12:11 PM
Hey all, I'm thinking about doing small amounts of guitar recording; I have a tight budget, so I'd like to avoid purchasing anything if possible (although I understand this may not be realistic).

In the past when I recorded with a friend's digital mixer, we mic'd the amps, fed this into the mixer, and the mixer connected to my laptop via USB. Unfortunately, I don't own a digital audio interface.

What I'd really like to do is connect my Fender Cyber-Twin 2x12 (original, not the SE) directly to my computer. Here is a picture of the back of the amp:
http://www.sound1.no/images/fender/forsterkere/cybertwin/fender_cyber_twin_back.jpg

The connections I think may work are:

Amp headphones jack (1/4") > 1/4M to 1/8F converter > 1/8" stereo cable > Macbook Pro line-in
Amp XLR out (there's a toggle switch for mono) > XLR to 1/8" cable > Macbook Pro line-in
Amp SPDIF output > ??? > Macbook Pro line-in


Would any of these work? Would any of these work well? Any other advice/suggestions?

Thanks in advice!

Your amps has spdif output? Use that and get an exact digital copy of the sound.

But if you were to buy a small audio interface for about $100 you can plug a guitar straight into that and then you the guiatar effects in Garage Band. They are not bad at all. The presets are a little bit of stereotypes but you can tweak them

guitargoddsjm
Dec 13, 2010, 12:51 PM
you would get a different sound if you went with a more conventional mic'ing technique. you'd get the sound of the room, the sound of the mic, and the sound of the mic pre.

Yeah, I totally understand. We used to stick mics in front of the amps, drums, etc. Unfortunately, as I stated, I don't currently have access to a digital audio interface.

Your amps has spdif output? Use that and get an exact digital copy of the sound.

But if you were to buy a small audio interface for about $100 you can plug a guitar straight into that and then you the guiatar effects in Garage Band. They are not bad at all. The presets are a little bit of stereotypes but you can tweak them

My amp is basically a modeling amp, but instead of modeling the amps & effects digitally, the circuitry is rerouted so that it actually matches the circuitry (tubes, capacitors, etc) of actual Fender Amps. More info here: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/document?doc_id=82017

Although Garageband & Logic effects are pretty darn good, I'd like to stick to what my amp can produce if possible!