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BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 08:02 AM
I have a new Mac Mini Base model, 1.25ghz, 256mb ram, 40gb hd. So far so good, everything seems snappy and useable. Networked to my PC with nary an issue. So far a couple culture shock things coming from the PC world - IE, closing a program window does not CLOSE the program.... Except in some cases... lol. Some what confusing to me, i guess it just takes getting used too. Also had some issues with my color profile, getting it to work correctly on my monitor, I had purple icons and stuff, but got that licked too.

Well, if anyone has any questions about the power of a stock mac mini, send em here, and we will bench this puppy till it cries!

Here is your chance to find out just how useable a base mac mini really is!

Bill

jxyama
Jan 24, 2005, 08:23 AM
sorry to "crash the party" so to speak, but mac mini is nothing new inside. it should compare more or less with an iBook.

what would be useful is information on noise, heat, etc...

Tuned MP5T
Jan 24, 2005, 08:52 AM
Beside iLife do you find any of the other apps useful? How's does it run when your using iTunes, Surfing the Net, and email?

wordmunger
Jan 24, 2005, 08:53 AM
sorry to "crash the party" so to speak, but mac mini is nothing new inside. it should compare more or less with an iBook.

what would be useful is information on noise, heat, etc...

My understanding is that compares pretty well with an iBook as well.

Spock
Jan 24, 2005, 09:07 AM
sorry to "crash the party" so to speak, but mac mini is nothing new inside. it should compare more or less with an iBook.

what would be useful is information on noise, heat, etc...

Sorry to "crash Your party" but the mini is closer to the eMac than the iBook.

BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 09:19 AM
sorry to "crash the party" so to speak, but mac mini is nothing new inside. it should compare more or less with an iBook.

what would be useful is information on noise, heat, etc...

Nah, the party is still on.. crashers welcome!

Noise = Practically NIL. HD access and CD drive are the only noises to be heard.

I have yet to get the fan to come on. I have yet to dig through the settings, but I am pretty sure there is no speed throttling on this unit.

Bill

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 24, 2005, 09:19 AM
sorry to "crash the party" so to speak, but mac mini is nothing new inside. it should compare more or less with an iBook.

what would be useful is information on noise, heat, etc...

Actually more in common with the eMac with its faster frontside bus.

surfsofa
Jan 24, 2005, 09:39 AM
I have a new Mac Mini Base model, 1.25ghz, 256mb ram, 40gb hd. So far so good, everything seems snappy and useable. Networked to my PC with nary an issue. So far a couple culture shock things coming from the PC world - IE, closing a program window does not CLOSE the program.... Except in some cases... lol. Some what confusing to me, i guess it just takes getting used too. Also had some issues with my color profile, getting it to work correctly on my monitor, I had purple icons and stuff, but got that licked too.

Well, if anyone has any questions about the power of a stock mac mini, send em here, and we will bench this puppy till it cries!

Here is your chance to find out just how useable a base mac mini really is!

Bill

Be interesting to see how well it copes with the CPU running at 100% the whole time (ie. fan etc.). Maybe try running Folding@home on it?

BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 09:48 AM
Beside iLife do you find any of the other apps useful? How's does it run when your using iTunes, Surfing the Net, and email?

Well, so far using iChat, iTunes, and browsing the web have been perfectly responsive. I can feel SOME lag due to the low ram. Mainly when loading large web pages (graphically intensive) and then switching back and forth to other programs. BUT, I am coming from a DUAL processor 2.3ghz Athlon System, so part of this is probably just me.

Certainly nothing bad... I have noticed a few of what I would call "switcher" issues, but nothing of a terrible sort. Minor inconvienences, and a few things that are less than immediately intuititive. The Mini came with Ilife 04 installed, I immediately installed Ilife '05 on it. So far only app I have used is garage band. And not well at that, i have no idea how to use it, as I am far less than musically talented. :P But it does work.

So far, i give it a 7 out of 10, especially due to some driver issues with my monitor which made all of my colors out of whack (icons were a crazy purple color!).

Thanks

Bill

BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 09:50 AM
Be interesting to see how well it copes with the CPU running at 100% the whole time (ie. fan etc.). Maybe try running Folding@home on it?

Will do, I will let you know. I will be upping the ram within a few weeks, for the time being she is stuck where she is at, as the only Dimms I have around are 256, and with one slot, that doesnt help any!

hwyengr
Jan 24, 2005, 09:57 AM
I picked up my mini on Saturday. I've been able to kick in the fan on 3 occasions, once while playing chess, once while converting a MPEG-4 video stream from the iSight into a DV stream for iMovie, and once on a webpage that had a significant number of animated smileys on it. The fan is variable speed, and when it gets up to full blast, it does make some noise. And it moves quite a bit of air, too.

I would have installed iLife '05, but my Combo drive won't mount disks. Apple is having me send the whole unit back to them, and they'll drop ship me a new Mini. Hopefully they've stashed a few aside and won't make me wait 3-4 weeks.

V.A.Toss
Jan 24, 2005, 10:01 AM
hmmm, 256 isnt much when it comes to OSX. For some unknown reason to me OSX requires more RAM than XP. I run my XP machine on 256 just fine.

But with more RAM you should see it run much much nicer.

Out of interest, on first impressions what features are better and worse between the two OS? Just trying to see the OSX from another perspective.

I think youll find OSX come into its own when you begin to use peripherals with the machine. Digital cameras, ipods, etc.
Thats the biggest difference i found when i got a PC, drivers were always a bitch, and it wasnt as seamless.

Dont Hurt Me
Jan 24, 2005, 10:06 AM
Best way to max it out that mini is throw a decent FPS on it. Try UT2003,2004 Demo or something like Call of duty,Medal of Honor whatever. See if you can run stuff at say 800 x600 resolutions and report your settings. If you dont have the titles the demo's are easy to get.

BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 10:13 AM
Best way to max it out that mini is throw a decent FPS on it. Try UT2003,2004 Demo or something like Call of duty,Medal of Honor whatever. See if you can run stuff at say 800 x600 resolutions and report your settings. If you dont have the titles the demo's are easy to get.

Will Do.

At work right now guys, but when I get home, I am making a list of to do's.

Thanks

Bill

Peyote
Jan 24, 2005, 10:14 AM
I have a new Mac Mini Base model, 1.25ghz, 256mb ram, 40gb hd. So far so good, everything seems snappy and useable. Networked to my PC with nary an issue. So far a couple culture shock things coming from the PC world - IE, closing a program window does not CLOSE the program.... Except in some cases... lol. Some what confusing to me, i guess it just takes getting used too. Also had some issues with my color profile, getting it to work correctly on my monitor, I had purple icons and stuff, but got that licked too.

Well, if anyone has any questions about the power of a stock mac mini, send em here, and we will bench this puppy till it cries!

Here is your chance to find out just how useable a base mac mini really is!

Bill



This isn't a performance related question, but how tall is the gap that allows air in along the bottom edge? There should be a gap between the aluminum and the desk surface.


I know some will criticize me for it, but I don't really care...there's a product called "Glowire" that's an illuminated tube of sorts, that puts out a good amount of light. Once my mini arrives, I plan on installing the glowire inside, along the area between the mini's internals, and the outer shell. Hopefully light will spill out through the vent holes and onto the desk surface. The Glowire plugs into a molex connector, but I'm sure there's a way to easily adapt it to draw power from any of the components...maybe split the molex connector on the superdrive if it has one. The glowire has a small switchbox that it comes with, but there should be room for that somewhere since I'm not having BT or AE installed.

I'll take photos in a month when I get it and perform the mod...but I'm sure someone else will have done it by then.

BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 10:16 AM
This isn't a performance related question, but how tall is the gap that allows air in along the bottom edge? There should be a gap between the aluminum and the desk surface.


I know some will criticize me for it, but I don't really care...there's a product called "Glowire" that's an illuminated tube of sorts, that puts out a good amount of light. Once my mini arrives, I plan on installing the glowire inside, along the area between the mini's internals, and the outer shell. Hopefully light will spill out through the vent holes and onto the desk surface. The Glowire plugs into a molex connector, but I'm sure there's a way to easily adapt it to draw power from any of the components...maybe spilt the molex connector on the superdrive if it has one. The glowire has a small switchbox that it comes with, but there should be room for that somewhere since I'm not having BT or AE installed.

I'll take photos in a month when I get it and perform the mod...but I'm sure someone else will have done it by then.

I will have to measure it when i get home, but i would estimate 1/4" give or take. Its not very high. However the whole bottom is surrounded by holes, so that probably gives it sufficient air intake. It does run fairly cool, the body being cold to the touch even when in use. If you place your hand near the rear vents, its slightly warm but not by much.

Bill

jxyama
Jan 24, 2005, 10:32 AM
Sorry to "crash Your party" but the mini is closer to the eMac than the iBook.

yep, sure, you (and others) are right but that wasn't really my point.

my point was, mini has nothing new in it. "benchmarking" a hardware that's already been in circulation for quite some time sounded redundant to me. that's all.

info about the heat, fan, etc. is very much appreciated as can only be described by someone owning the new machine.

Yvan256
Jan 24, 2005, 11:16 AM
Actually more in common with the eMac with its faster frontside bus.

It's also half-iBook with it's 2.5" 4200 RPM Hard Disk.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 24, 2005, 11:48 AM
It's also half-iBook with it's 2.5" 4200 RPM Hard Disk.

Maybe or maybe not according to this site:

http://www.applelegal.com/other_comments.php?id=205_0_7_0_C

Some users maybe getting the 4200rpm, and some getting the 5400rpm. And according to Barefeets, there may be little difference in performance in the 2.5" drives between the 5400 and 7200 HDDs.

sambront
Jan 24, 2005, 01:15 PM
I've called Seagate and confirmed that the model number "ST940110A" is an OEM version of their "ST94011A" drive, which is a 5400RPM drive w/2MB cache.


Maybe or maybe not according to this site:

http://www.applelegal.com/other_comments.php?id=205_0_7_0_C

Some users maybe getting the 4200rpm, and some getting the 5400rpm. And according to Barefeets, there may be little difference in performance in the 2.5" drives between the 5400 and 7200 HDDs.

BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 01:20 PM
I've called Seagate and confirmed that the model number "ST940110A" is an OEM version of their "ST94011A" drive, which is a 5400RPM drive w/2MB cache.

Awesome, thats some bonus news, and almost makes the low end mini an even greater deal. A faster hd, and only slightly slower processor!

Me thinks the low end mini will easily run at 1.42 ghz (a 170mhz o/c is really not much !)

Now, just need to figure out how to overclock the bad boy.

:P

Tuned MP5T
Jan 24, 2005, 03:06 PM
Well, so far using iChat, iTunes, and browsing the web have been perfectly responsive. I can feel SOME lag due to the low ram. Mainly when loading large web pages (graphically intensive) and then switching back and forth to other programs. BUT, I am coming from a DUAL processor 2.3ghz Athlon System, so part of this is probably just me.

Certainly nothing bad... I have noticed a few of what I would call "switcher" issues, but nothing of a terrible sort. Minor inconvienences, and a few things that are less than immediately intuititive. The Mini came with Ilife 04 installed, I immediately installed Ilife '05 on it. So far only app I have used is garage band. And not well at that, i have no idea how to use it, as I am far less than musically talented. :P But it does work.

So far, i give it a 7 out of 10, especially due to some driver issues with my monitor which made all of my colors out of whack (icons were a crazy purple color!).

Thanks

BilliLife04? On Apple's website it says the Mac Mini comes with iLife 05.

BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 04:40 PM
iLife04? On Apple's website it says the Mac Mini comes with iLife 05.

Ilife 05 is included on a disc, but not pre installed. Not a biggie for me, I actually prefer having it optional.

Thanks

Bill

dejo
Jan 24, 2005, 04:53 PM
Maybe or maybe not according to this site:

http://www.applelegal.com/other_comments.php?id=205_0_7_0_C

Some users maybe getting the 4200rpm, and some getting the 5400rpm. And according to Barefeets, there may be little difference in performance in the 2.5" drives between the 5400 and 7200 HDDs.

Wow, if this is true, this is stunning! Should be front page news. And all those complaining of a "crippled" hard drive should have to eat crow.

BillHarrison
Jan 24, 2005, 05:46 PM
Wow, if this is true, this is stunning! Should be front page news. And all those complaining of a "crippled" hard drive should have to eat crow.

Certainly seems to be: See the post above where a poster actually contacted seagate and confirmed the drives model number and specs. Looks like the 40giger is faster than the 80 Gigger!

nylon
Jan 25, 2005, 12:10 AM
Some users maybe getting the 4200rpm, and some getting the 5400rpm. And according to Barefeets, there may be little difference in performance in the 2.5" drives between the 5400 and 7200 HDDs.

I don't think that's true. Here is review at Barefeats which demonstrates that there can be a significant performance boost with a 7200 RPM drive.

http://www.barefeats.com/hard34.html

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 25, 2005, 02:29 AM
I don't think that's true. Here is review at Barefeats which demonstrates that there can be a significant performance boost with a 7200 RPM drive.

http://www.barefeats.com/hard34.html

And this test looked at the PB....

http://www.barefeats.com/pb12.html

Poff
Jan 25, 2005, 02:52 AM
far a couple culture shock things coming from the PC world - IE, closing a program window does not CLOSE the program.... Except in some cases... lol. Some what confusing to me, i guess it just takes getting used too.
Bill

Hehe.. I remember having the same issue. "Why does some of the icons on my task-bar have small, black triangles beneith them? Is it to tell me what programs I have used since last resetting my computer?" :D

Poff
Jan 25, 2005, 03:03 AM
Awesome, thats some bonus news, and almost makes the low end mini an even greater deal. A faster hd, and only slightly slower processor!

Me thinks the low end mini will easily run at 1.42 ghz (a 170mhz o/c is really not much !)

Now, just need to figure out how to overclock the bad boy.

:P

I think you'll have a hard time overclocking it, should involve some soldering on the motherboard. (It is generally not as easy to overclock Macs as it is with PCs.)

Kudos to you if you actually make it work! :D

BillHarrison
Jan 25, 2005, 05:02 AM
I think you'll have a hard time overclocking it, should involve some soldering on the motherboard. (It is generally not as easy to overclock Macs as it is with PCs.)

Kudos to you if you actually make it work! :D

Yeah, I did find a write up on someone who had overclocked the "Emac" (An earlier model) and it involved resetting some resistors on the logic board. I would most likely just upgrade my mini before I went to those extremes. LOL

PS. I bought this puppy at CompUSA, and they do have a 21 day no questions asked return policy, so if I really do feel that the other model is worth 100$, all i have to do is box this one up, and take it in and exchange it.

So far though, I have not "waited" on the computer, nor wished it was "faster" which is VERY impressive seeing as how i came from a kick ass fast PC. Even right now I am streaming music in iTunes, and doing this on the web, with iChat, Yahoo, and 3 or 4 other apps running (yeah, as the poster said above, It took me a few just to figure out what those triangles really meant on the dock :D).

So far, a good experience, just a few switcher issues which I hope to have figured out soon.

Bill

BillHarrison
Jan 25, 2005, 09:49 AM
Ok, got some more time invested in the mini:

Further thoughts:

Wow, is this thing quiet. Listening to MP3's, I have heard things in the track I never heard before because of the fans in my pc. Pretty impressive. This thing is practically silent.

Fast, but not always responsive: Here is my opinion on this subject. It seems "fast". Loading programs, etc is all very acceptable. However, occasionally, it just simply bogs down, and takes a second for anything to happen. I believe it is the limited ram, and a larger amount would alleviate this. I am on the wall deciding whether to return this one for the 1.42ghz model. They extra speed is always nice, but looks like I may be getting a slower HD, so it may actually be a wash. I am thinking I would be better off spending the 100$ towards more ram, and that would make an even bigger difference than the extra 170mhz.

Easy on the eyes. I never felt "soothed" by windows. But after using the mini for a few hours last night, I literally felt more relaxed, and comfortable. Probably part of it was the lack of noise, and part of it how easy the colors and everything are on my eyes. XP has such clashing colors, bright green start button, blue task bar, rolling green background, and such "sharp" edges on everything. OS X just seems "Smooth" to me. Nothing JUMPS out at you. Everything is "fluid" and I really like that.

Well, will keep you all posted as I get more time under my belt. I tried to get the fan to come on, but as of yet have not been successful in this.

I guess so far, my only possible regret is going with the lower processor speed. I would rather have fast external storage than the bigger, but slower 80gb internal drive, so that is no issue to me at all. I am just kinda mulling over the extra mhz. I guess I am thinking just add ram, which should improve the occasional bog down (feels like its due to hitting the harddrive pagefile) and the general speed should be acceptable.

I am REALLY trying to resist the urge to tear this down to find the pll resistors on the motherboard.

I think I could easily just make due fine with this until the next revision, and jump to it. Thats probably the best course of action, throw in a 1gb, which should give better performance than a stock 1.42 256mb w/ 4200rpm 80gb for the same price.

Thats my opionion so far, but ill keep you posted!

wordmunger
Jan 25, 2005, 10:12 AM
I am on the wall deciding whether to return this one for the 1.42ghz model. They extra speed is always nice, but looks like I may be getting a slower HD, so it may actually be a wash. I am thinking I would be better off spending the 100$ towards more ram, and that would make an even bigger difference than the extra 170mhz.

That's your problem, right there. Get more memory. The 170mhz will be barely noticeable by comparison.

Chip NoVaMac
Jan 25, 2005, 10:39 AM
That's your problem, right there. Get more memory. The 170mhz will be barely noticeable by comparison.

Keep in mind that the Seagate 40gb 5400RPM HDD may not be only one is using. They could switch at anytime, particularly in light of the demand for the Mac mini.

BillHarrison
Jan 25, 2005, 10:57 AM
Keep in mind that the Seagate 40gb 5400RPM HDD may not be only one is using. They could switch at anytime, particularly in light of the demand for the Mac mini.

I dunno, i am pretty confident that will be the installed model for the time being. I am guessing they have some pretty big contracts on these items. I am not sure how much of a diff this is vrs the 4200, or worse than a 7200. But chances are, all the minis w/ 40gb drives atm are using this drive.

ftaok
Jan 25, 2005, 01:23 PM
Here is your chance to find out just how useable a base mac mini really is!

Bill
If possible, could you do the following 2 operations?

1. Rip a CD with iTunes (128 AAC).

2. Use Handbrake and rip a DVD (let's say at 512 kbps video/128 kbps audio; mpeg-4; 320x240 or whatever the horizontal is for 240 vert.)

I need to justify upgrading from a 500mhz iBook Combo.

Thanks.

BillHarrison
Jan 25, 2005, 01:29 PM
If possible, could you do the following 2 operations?

1. Rip a CD with iTunes (128 AAC).

2. Use Handbrake and rip a DVD (let's say at 512 kbps video/128 kbps audio; mpeg-4; 320x240 or whatever the horizontal is for 240 vert.)

I need to justify upgrading from a 500mhz iBook Combo.

Thanks.

Will do when I get home. I have itunes, could you please post a link to "handbrake" so that I can get it when i get home. Does it matter what dvd? Or are they all pretty much the same?

Thanks

Bill

ftaok
Jan 25, 2005, 01:34 PM
Will do when I get home. I have itunes, could you please post a link to "handbrake" so that I can get it when i get home. Does it matter what dvd? Or are they all pretty much the same?

Thanks

BillI guess any DVD will do. If you have a shorter one (like a compilation DVD a la The Simpsons), that might make the test shorter. On my iBook, ripping a DVD movie takes over 12 hours. I'm hoping the mini can do it in under an hour.

Here's the LINK (http://handbrake.m0k.org/) to the handbrake webpage.

Thanks for volunteering.

carpet
Jan 25, 2005, 01:40 PM
sorry to "crash the party" so to speak, but mac mini is nothing new inside. it should compare more or less with an iBook.

what would be useful is information on noise, heat, etc...You mean more like a Powerbook. Look at the mini's fsb and memory speed and now with the 8x super drive option. Its nothing like the ibook and everything like the PB.

BillHarrison
Jan 25, 2005, 06:50 PM
Will do when I get home. I have itunes, could you please post a link to "handbrake" so that I can get it when i get home. Does it matter what dvd? Or are they all pretty much the same?

Thanks

Bill

Ok, here are my results:

First of all, iTunes. Ripped to 128kbs AAC, all settings default. Max speed was 13.2x. Take this with a grain of salt, as the Cd I was ripping seemed to have some problems and frequently stalled. I popped it out, and noticed some scratches on it. I tried cleaning it up, and it seemed to help some. But it would hit "problem" spots and slow down to 5x at times.

Second:

Handbrake. Ripped the movie "Nightmare On Elm St." Widescreen, using the bit rates and screensize you mentioned. Average encoding speed was 27.94 fps. Took 1h 20 min to encode, movie length was 1h 31 min.

So basically realtime encoding. Seems awful slow compared to my dual athlon in the encoding department, i have no idea why? :D J/k

I can do the same movie in 15-20 min on that. But that is not the purpose of the mac mini. I would say def useable, esp for someone who now waits 12 hours. LOL

Bill

nylon
Jan 25, 2005, 09:52 PM
And this test looked at the PB....

http://www.barefeats.com/pb12.html


Now that is a dilemma!! :)

Chrispy
Jan 25, 2005, 10:28 PM
Hehe.. I remember having the same issue. "Why does some of the icons on my task-bar have small, black triangles beneith them? Is it to tell me what programs I have used since last resetting my computer?" :D

The icons with black triangles under then means that those programs are running. To close them either click on the icon and then close the program on the menu bar or right click (hold control + hit the mouse button if you have a single button mouse) on the icon in the dock (thing that shows all the icons) and then go to quit. You will soon grow to know this method for using applications and grow to love it. I know I did :)

chanoc
Jan 25, 2005, 10:37 PM
Ok, here are my results:

First of all, iTunes. Ripped to 128kbs AAC, all settings default. Max speed was 13.2x. Take this with a grain of salt, as the Cd I was ripping seemed to have some problems and frequently stalled. I popped it out, and noticed some scratches on it. I tried cleaning it up, and it seemed to help some. But it would hit "problem" spots and slow down to 5x at times.

Second:

Handbrake. Ripped the movie "Nightmare On Elm St." Widescreen, using the bit rates and screensize you mentioned. Average encoding speed was 27.94 fps. Took 1h 20 min to encode, movie length was 1h 31 min.

So basically realtime encoding. Seems awful slow compared to my dual athlon in the encoding department, i have no idea why? :D J/k

I can do the same movie in 15-20 min on that. But that is not the purpose of the mac mini. I would say def useable, esp for someone who now waits 12 hours. LOL

Bill

I used to encode - using HandBrake - at settings of MPEG-4 video (1,024 bit rate) and AAC audio (128Kbps), and on my ibook 500 G3 would take over 18 hours - sometimes it would crash half way through the encode! :(

So, only 1.5 hours on a computer that costs about the same as an old iBook. :cool:

iTunes would encode a CD, to AAC or MP3, at 5X, top speed on an iBook 500. So 13X is a noticable increase. :cool:

Poff
Jan 26, 2005, 03:36 AM
The icons with black triangles under then means that those programs are running. To close them either click on the icon and then close the program on the menu bar or right click (hold control + hit the mouse button if you have a single button mouse) on the icon in the dock (thing that shows all the icons) and then go to quit. You will soon grow to know this method for using applications and grow to love it. I know I did :)


Yeah, I know. (been a Mac-user for 2+ years now.)

I just didn't bother reading the whole help-file for people with win-background, since most of the OS is very self-explanatory. They should have had a short explanation of the differences for people a bit more technical..

ftaok
Jan 26, 2005, 05:27 AM
First of all, iTunes. Ripped to 128kbs AAC, all settings default. Max speed was 13.2x.

Handbrake. Ripped the movie "Nightmare On Elm St." Widescreen, using the bit rates and screensize you mentioned. Average encoding speed was 27.94 fps. Took 1h 20 min to encode, movie length was 1h 31 min.

Bill,

Thanks for the tests.

For comparision, my iBook usually rips iTunes at 2.5x or so.

Handbrake rips at around 5 fps.

So for my purposes, the Mac mini seems to be 5x faster. Now I gotta get one. Maybe after demand dies down a little.

ft

BillHarrison
Jan 26, 2005, 06:21 AM
Bill,

Thanks for the tests.

For comparision, my iBook usually rips iTunes at 2.5x or so.

Handbrake rips at around 5 fps.

So for my purposes, the Mac mini seems to be 5x faster. Now I gotta get one. Maybe after demand dies down a little.

ft

Note, this is the low end mini w/ stock 256mb ram! The high end would do a little better.

PS, If you have a Compusa near you, you may be able to take one home right away. The store near me had several of each model. I had to ask, as they were not on display! So if you want one, head on over, chances are good you can get one. And don't call, it is useless, I called, they said they didnt have any. I went on down anyways, just to play around and get some discs. Guess what? When i got there, and asked the person in the mac area, he said sure, and brought me one out!

PS. I really cant shake the feeling I should return this and get the faster model. I plan on getting the next revision mini when released. So I am not sure if it is the best idea or not to get the higher model. I want the extra speed, but I dont know if the slower harddrive will negate that. I most likely will not be swapping the hd, not for lack of ability, but for lack of worth. Too much for too little. So I am tempted just to spend the 100$ towards a large ram upgrade, and roll with the 1.25 till the next release. I have a case of "top end Itis" and its really bugging me that I could have a faster mini processor.

Decisions decisions!

johnnyjibbs
Jan 26, 2005, 07:12 AM
I picked up my mini on Saturday. I've been able to kick in the fan on 3 occasions, once while playing chess...
Hmm, that's not unusual. Even though it's just some open source chess game with an Apple lick of paint on it, it does take some beating. In fact, I've never beat it.. :p

Nice to see that the mini is performing as expected. If I was in the market, I'd get one, but I'm not. And BillHarrison - welcome to the party! I'm sure you'll soon get used to your "switcher" issues - Mac OS X has some strange things going on when you have just come from Windows (like I did a year ago) but it's not that different really. But much more of a joy to use overall.

iShater
Jan 26, 2005, 12:14 PM
You can find out how much virtual memory your system is using. I don't remember if Activity Monitor displays that, but it definitely shows you how much RAM the applications are using.

To find out the VM, go to the Terminal application. Type the following command:

ls -l /var/vm

This will show you the listing and size of the virtual memory files. If you the that you have lots of files with big sizes, that tells you that your doing a lot of paging and would benefit from the RAM upgrade.

When I got my iBook, it came with the stock 128MB of RAM, I added 512 and the speed DOUBLED (I timed it!). You might not see the same kind of boost, but the more applications you use the more responsive your system will be.

enjoy! I plan to get one later this year when I get the $$!

Poff
Jan 27, 2005, 04:19 AM
PS. I really cant shake the feeling I should return this and get the faster model. I plan on getting the next revision mini when released. So I am not sure if it is the best idea or not to get the higher model. I want the extra speed, but I dont know if the slower harddrive will negate that. I most likely will not be swapping the hd, not for lack of ability, but for lack of worth. Too much for too little. So I am tempted just to spend the 100$ towards a large ram upgrade, and roll with the 1.25 till the next release. I have a case of "top end Itis" and its really bugging me that I could have a faster mini processor.

You prolly won't notice much difference between the two models available now, and you prolly won't notice much difference between the current high-end model and the next high-end model. So if you're going to get one of the next revision minis aswell, why not keep this low-end model, get the next revision high-end model, and actually notice some speed difference? It's always a good feeling, you know.. :D