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Morrius
Jan 10, 2011, 07:55 PM
The cost of my cable TV is going to go up drastically in six months, and I've been thinking about getting rid of it and replacing with an AppleTV, plus Netflix and Hulu Plus. Has anyone tried doing this? How hard is it to hack an ATV box to put Hulu Plus on it, and what other advantages/disadvantages are there?

If anyone out there does this, what speed internet connection do you have as well? I'm concerned that this can be a bottleneck.



gtmac
Jan 10, 2011, 10:29 PM
I have the ATV2 and a couple of Rokus. Hulu Plus works great and the price is right. Personally I really hope that the ATV2 gets better as time goes on as for now I don't really use it at all.

Morrius
Jan 11, 2011, 02:10 AM
Roku is another possibility, since it comes with Hulu Plus capability. But I have a lot of stuff on my iPad, and I want to be able to stream it to the TV via AirPlay. So, a lack of AirPlay may be a dealbreaker for me.

badmac78
Jan 13, 2011, 05:45 PM
We have been cable free for 3 years now

PS3 for Hulu Plus
ATV for iTunes + Netflix
Tivo for anything we want to record that's not on Hulu, Netflix, or iTunes, but we bought an EyeTV and will be dropping Tivo soon.
email me if you have any more questions.

newagemac
Jan 13, 2011, 10:17 PM
Get an antenna, EyeTV, and you don't need Hulu Plus and get more content and in higher quality than even cable or satellite. Use ATV2 for Netflix, iTunes, and everything else. I have a PS3 but only use it for Blu Ray rentals from Netflix and games. That's what I do. Haven't had cable for almost a year and don't miss it one bit. If you do a search there are a couple of long recent threads discussing this.

spice weasel
Jan 14, 2011, 08:56 AM
I've been without cable for a while now and it's been great. They key to making the move, I think, is to enter with the understanding that you cannot exactly replicate the cable experience. You can come close by cobbling together a system, but there will likely be gaps. The trick is to understand what those gaps will be and determine if it's a problem for you.

I'll give you my example. I generally watch very little "live" television, and there are only a couple of shows that I regularly follow. I work during the weekdays, and don't watch very much television on weekends, so daytime television is not a concern for me. I use a simple combination of Netflix (both disc and streaming) via my Apple TV and my PS3, my own collection of DVD rips via the Apple TV (which I also use extensively for streaming my music library to my receiver), regular Hulu via a MacBook Pro I have hooked up to my television, and the occasional live broadcast. Since I am still a cable broadband subscriber (Comcast), I simply connected my coax right to the television for unencrypted access to the networks and PBS. Hulu acts as my DVR.

I generally don't watch sports, so missing out on ESPN doesn't bother me. There is only one cable show that I watch ("Breaking Bad"), so I'll have to either wait for the upcoming season to come out on disc or just buy it on iTunes. I'll probably do the latter. I've never had premium cable like HBO or Showtime, and have always watched those shows on disc.

I could simplify my system even more by just using my PS3 and signing up for Hulu Plus. But I like the Apple TV interface and I like streaming my music, and I don't watch enough network television shows to have a need for Hulu Plus.

So, in short, think about your viewing habits and what the bare minimum you would need in order to keep you a happy pop culture consumer. You can always add devices and services if you need them. Start with what I did: I cut out my cable and DVR for two weeks before I formally cancelled my service, just to see what it would be like. After a day I realized it was just fine.

junker
Jan 14, 2011, 06:52 PM
I've got a similar setup as others (ATV2, iMac, Airport Extreme Wireless, PS3, 47 Inch LED Backlit Samsung - and wife and I have iphones FWIW)

Anyway, we have a bundle service that we're going to try and eliminate (cable, internet, phone) and we're soon to nix the phone and cable then switch to bigger pipe for internet.

Now, here's my question: We tend to watch shows such as Breaking Bad, News Shows (Meet the Press), CNBC Business, Comedy central, and PBS shows - would we be able to pretty much access these shows via ATV2, PS3 or web stream?

T.I.A.

spice weasel
Jan 14, 2011, 07:33 PM
I've got a similar setup as others (ATV2, iMac, Airport Extreme Wireless, PS3, 47 Inch LED Backlit Samsung - and wife and I have iphones FWIW)

Anyway, we have a bundle service that we're going to try and eliminate (cable, internet, phone) and we're soon to nix the phone and cable then switch to bigger pipe for internet.

Now, here's my question: We tend to watch shows such as Breaking Bad, News Shows (Meet the Press), CNBC Business, Comedy central, and PBS shows - would we be able to pretty much access these shows via ATV2, PS3 or web stream?

T.I.A.

You can get Breaking Bad on iTunes when the season starts, and then stream it to your ATV2. I don't think it's available for rental, but you'll have to check when the new season starts.

News can be harder. Some stuff is available for streaming, but the pickings are limited and they almost all require going through their web portal. That means hooking up either a dedicated HTPC or a makeshift one like I use with my laptop. I know that MSNBC offers some of their shows via podcast, so you just have to subscribe on your computer via iTMS. CBS does the same for some of its news programming. It will be a day late, though. Network news you can watch live if you get good OTA reception or maintain cable broadband and get unencrypted network television that way.

junker
Jan 14, 2011, 07:56 PM
Thanks for the reply Spice Weasel, that's pretty much what I suspected without really doing much research into and it's what I was afraid of... but ultimately, I need to not watch programming and focus more on life! :)

I'll look into the podcasts.

One thing I failed to mention is that I plan to try various antenna's to the samsung...One being rabbit ears, then if that's too little/too weak - will look into mounting on roof the style (I hear great things about the roof version)

Even some Local HD hopefully!

Mac.World
Jan 14, 2011, 08:23 PM
For those that want the basic channels CBS, ABC, CW, FOX, NBC and PBS streamed: http://www.ustvnow.com/

If you watch Spike TV: http://www.boxlive.tv/channels/spiketv21 (Good for the Ultimate Fighter fans)

junker
Jan 14, 2011, 08:56 PM
For those that want the basic channels CBS, ABC, CW, FOX, NBC and PBS streamed: http://www.ustvnow.com/

If you watch Spike TV: http://www.boxlive.tv/channels/spiketv21 (Good for the Ultimate Fighter fans)

Well, that's interesting! Thanks! So, do I have to pay for this? I see they want me to subscribe.... and how would I stream this to my TV? Thru my PS3? I don't think I can use Airplay for this.

adbe
Jan 14, 2011, 09:09 PM
One thing I failed to mention is that I plan to try various antenna's to the samsung...One being rabbit ears, then if that's too little/too weak - will look into mounting on roof the style (I hear great things about the roof version)
!

If you're going to get a roof antenna spend the money and get a decent one. Also be sure to look at your local transmitter maps for the proper orientation.

I dropped Comcast last year. OTA HD is far better quality than DirecTV or Comcast, and unlike DirecTV, I've yet to lose a signal in a storm.

For reference http://tvfool.com has good details on coverage, and antenna orientation tools.

aristobrat
Jan 14, 2011, 09:20 PM
If you're going to get a roof antenna spend the money and get a decent one. Also be sure to look at your local transmitter maps for the proper orientation.
In regards to "where to point your antenna", I just wanted to mention for anyone that may not already know about it:
http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx

If you enter in your street address, it will recommend the best style of antenna for you, and show you exactly which way to position it.

Very cool site for anyone doing over-the-air stuff. :)

Mac.World
Jan 15, 2011, 03:21 AM
Well, that's interesting! Thanks! So, do I have to pay for this? I see they want me to subscribe.... and how would I stream this to my TV? Thru my PS3? I don't think I can use Airplay for this.

There is no subscription for the basic channels I mentioned. If you want all the channels they offer, then that requires more info than a simple login name and password (which is all that is required for those basic 6 TV stations.)

Considering I don't live in the U.S., I was pleasantly surprised at how well the website works.

And yes, this is a website and not to be used with the ATV. I have a PC hooked up to my TV to watch this sort of thing. PS3 would work fine as well.

junker
Jan 15, 2011, 12:47 PM
There is no subscription for the basic channels I mentioned. If you want all the channels they offer, then that requires more info than a simple login name and password (which is all that is required for those basic 6 TV stations.)

Considering I don't live in the U.S., I was pleasantly surprised at how well the website works.

And yes, this is a website and not to be used with the ATV. I have a PC hooked up to my TV to watch this sort of thing. PS3 would work fine as well.

...Seems like I read somewhere that PS3 wouldn't play Flash thru its internet browser, which is what this particular site runs on.

So, again I ask - how would one stream these shows, from sites like this, to the TV?

aristobrat
Jan 15, 2011, 01:43 PM
Hook a computer directly to your tv.

Mac.World
Jan 15, 2011, 02:12 PM
Hook a computer directly to your tv.

Which is what I have done. Although, I didn't realize that the PS3 couldn't play flash. I don't own one.

junker
Jan 15, 2011, 03:16 PM
Hook a computer directly to your tv.

lol - true. I guess that's about the only solution left. Not very elegant or Wireless, but it'll do.

Now I've got to figure the best method there... since my macbook doesn't have an HDMI out... guess I'll have to run both audio and video out. Ugh.

Does anyone have ideas on best way to do this - macbook to a Samsung 47 inch LED Backlit?

mini-dvi - HDMI?

Mac.World
Jan 15, 2011, 03:41 PM
lol - true. I guess that's about the only solution left. Not very elegant or Wireless, but it'll do.

Now I've got to figure the best method there... since my macbook doesn't have an HDMI out... guess I'll have to run both audio and video out. Ugh.

Does anyone have ideas on best way to do this - macbook to a Samsung 47 inch LED Backlit?

mini-dvi - HDMI?

Yes, you can get the connector you need off e-bay. I take it you have one of the older Macbook's, so you will also need a male to male speaker (green ends) line to go from the computer to the TV.

If you want to make life easier on yourself, buy a Windows 7 PC or laptop for under $400. It will have everything you need, to include HDMI out.

Morrius
Jan 15, 2011, 04:39 PM
I've got a PS3, so I could get my Hulu fix through that, and use ATV for Netflix and AirPlay. How fast of an internet connection do you need for things like ATV?

I've never heard of eyeTV. What does it do, and how does it work? Putting an antenna on my roof isn't an option, the building I live in is considered historical and I can't put up antennas or satellite dishes or anything like that.

How much content is on Hulu Plus? I also want the ability to watch football games. What are my options for this?

posnera
Jan 15, 2011, 06:26 PM
I've got a PS3, so I could get my Hulu fix through that, and use ATV for Netflix and AirPlay. How fast of an internet connection do you need for things like ATV?

I've never heard of eyeTV. What does it do, and how does it work? Putting an antenna on my roof isn't an option, the building I live in is considered historical and I can't put up antennas or satellite dishes or anything like that.

How much content is on Hulu Plus? I also want the ability to watch football games. What are my options for this?

There are no (legal) ways to watch football over the internet (if you live in the US). I guess you could buy a DirectTV subscription, never install the dish and just use their internet streaming, but that seems silly.

You need either cable or an antenna of some sort. If you get your internet from the cable company you may be able to get your local channels for free just by connecting the coax to your tv.

thetruth1985
Jan 16, 2011, 06:40 AM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the xbox 360. You can stream espn college football and basketball games in hd. They also occasionally have NBA basketball, boxing, and soccer games too. Once hulu plus comes to xbox live, I think the apple tv and xbox will be the ultimate media center. The only downside to xbox live is that it's 50 bucks a year but if you're like me and already have 3 xboxs in the house, you can get the family pack for only 100 bucks a year. Still less than the cost of cable.

Mac.World
Jan 16, 2011, 08:07 AM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the xbox 360. You can stream espn college football and basketball games in hd. They also occasionally have NBA basketball, boxing, and soccer games too. Once hulu plus comes to xbox live, I think the apple tv and xbox will be the ultimate media center. The only downside to xbox live is that it's 50 bucks a year but if you're like me and already have 3 xboxs in the house, you can get the family pack for only 100 bucks a year. Still less than the cost of cable.

Only problem with XBox is when, not if, but when it is going to break down. I currently own both a newer one and an older gen white version. I got the red ring of death on the old one about a year after ownership and had it fixed by M$ and when I bought the new one a couple months back, it was defective right out of the box. Obviously no QA done on it. Luckily, I was able to replace it. I baby the crap out of my M$ products, cause they are so fragile.

I never recommend any M$ hardware to anyone. And if you are going to cut your cable line, I def don't recommend using an XBox. You are just setting yourself up for disappointment.

thetruth1985
Jan 19, 2011, 09:06 AM
Only problem with XBox is when, not if, but when it is going to break down. I currently own both a newer one and an older gen white version. I got the red ring of death on the old one about a year after ownership and had it fixed by M$ and when I bought the new one a couple months back, it was defective right out of the box. Obviously no QA done on it. Luckily, I was able to replace it. I baby the crap out of my M$ products, cause they are so fragile.

I never recommend any M$ hardware to anyone. And if you are going to cut your cable line, I def don't recommend using an XBox. You are just setting yourself up for disappointment.

That sucks about your new one. You are the first person that I have ever heard of having a problem with the new models. I guess I have been lucky because I own 2 older elites and 1 newer slim and I have never had a problem yet (knocks on wood).

Doc750
Jan 19, 2011, 09:13 AM
I've cut my cable down to basic. Its verizon fios triple play for $99 and thats it.

The apple tv thing is hit or miss. I have netflix set up on there, but for example last night, it wasn't working for a good two hours. If you go to the Netflix website, theyre trouble shooting suggestion is to reset the apple tv, and then contact apple. Apple's suggestion is to contact Netflix.

Apple tv is a nice little gadget. But it's still a few yrs away from replacing cable completely.

mstrze
Jan 19, 2011, 09:24 AM
One thing I failed to mention is that I plan to try various antenna's to the samsung...One being rabbit ears, then if that's too little/too weak - will look into mounting on roof the style (I hear great things about the roof version)

Even some Local HD hopefully!

Terk makes a terrific low-cost set-top model (rabbit ears) that works better than any other antenna I have tried. Avoid amplified ones, on the old analog broadcasts, they did the job, but somehow the amplification makes the digital signal worse in my experience.

Here's a link to the Terk I am talking about:

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=terk+antenna&rls=com.microsoft:*&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=10312921345373044459&ei=CAE3TZOzJsv1gAe8leTgAw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEsQ8wIwBQ#

You will be blown away by the stuff you can get for free OTA. You will probably mave free music and movie channels and one or more weather channel. In Houston, we have 'This' which is a channel which plays movies from the 70s/80s generally...a local weather channel, one which just cycles a radar, a home improvement/well being channel, multiple Christian channels, tons of Spanish-language and even 1 or 2 Asian channels.

Some of the coolest sub-channel you might never know about without an antenna since many cable and satellite systems either don't carry them, or relagate them to very odd places on the 'dial'.

Have fun!

FYI...counting up all the channel that I can receive OTA...it numbers 30+ when all the subchannels are included! Even smaller markets will give you 10-15 options, easily.

alent1234
Jan 19, 2011, 11:08 AM
been doing the netflix streaming for 6 months now and it's sketchy. sometimes the content is there, a lot of times it's not. and in the case of scooby-doo which my son likes they lost access to a lot of the movies. used to be over 10 scooby-doo movies, now only 3

Hulu isn't much better. i'm seriously thinking of stopping with the streaming nonsense and just buy the DVD's

dXTC
Jan 19, 2011, 11:28 AM
You will be blown away by the stuff you can get for free OTA. You will probably mave free music and movie channels and one or more weather channel. In Houston, we have 'This' which is a channel which plays movies from the 70s/80s generally...a local weather channel, one which just cycles a radar, a home improvement/well being channel, multiple Christian channels, tons of Spanish-language and even 1 or 2 Asian channels.

Some of the coolest sub-channel you might never know about without an antenna since many cable and satellite systems either don't carry them, or relagate them to very odd places on the 'dial'.


I recently picked up a little 7" digital TV on sale, and discovered some of these little subchannels. WAVE-TV in Louisville has a 24-hour local weather subchannel. It also has 'This TV' on another subchannel, which I kinda dig; it's like a free cable superstation. Louisville's local KET station has KET2 on a subchannel so viewers don't have to flip all the way to channel 68.

There could be others, but then again this is just an itty-bitty TV with one of those telescoping antennas.

been doing the netflix streaming for 6 months now and it's sketchy. sometimes the content is there, a lot of times it's not. and in the case of scooby-doo which my son likes they lost access to a lot of the movies. used to be over 10 scooby-doo movies, now only 3.


I have no gripes with the availability of content on Netflix. I do, however, have a BIG gripe with stream reliability/buffering Netflix on my ATV2. I know my speed's kind of on the edge for HD streaming, but I even get problems (long start/buffer times, pauses, etc.) with standard def content. I know it's not Netflix, because my TV does Netflix too, with hardly any problem whatsoever (the TV's interface leaves much to be desired, though). Same problems with ATV and YouTube, especially since ATV seems to want to deliver the highest quality content for a given video, with no way for a user to force lower quality.

alent1234
Jan 19, 2011, 11:52 AM
can't help you there, most of my netflix is via the PS3 and while my trial x-box live gold membership is active i use that when i'm lazy. mostly the PS3 since the quality is a lot better than the x-box version

cdavis11
Jan 19, 2011, 12:17 PM
My two cents - from someone who's been cable free for a few months now:

I run an aTV 2G, a Roku HD XR and the Terk OTA HDTVi antenna. The three have done very well so far, the antenna is really necessary as it keeps you plugged into local news and other content...without that antenna I don't know if this ongoing experiment would still be a success.

Netflix is great. I run it on the Roku, as the aTV has been flakey lately. aTV is fine for my Itunes purchased content - kids movies and a couple of season passes for shows I don't want to adjust my schedule for. Netflix on the aTV has been hit or miss - the quality appears to have been degraded lately and sometimes audio/video will drop or fall out of sync.

Netflix on the Roku has been generally great. The video/audio quality is almost always better than the aTV and the viewing experience has been very good.

Hulu Plus on the Roku is another story. While video and audio quality is good *when* it's playing, it's been a stuttering, freezing mess lately. I've sent in several feedback emails and, to their credit, Hulu support has gotten back to me each and every time and informed me that it's a known issue and a fix is in the works. They've even issued credits to my account, which may keep me around a while longer.

On the antenna again - for me, it's a necessity. We started the cable free experiment with just the streaming boxes. I began to feel cut off from local stuff, and was longing for a little local news. Bought the terk indoor HDTVa and installed it - I don't get everything, but using the built in signal strength indicator in my TV, I was able to get the best few local channels.

The folks who say you'll be amazed by whats available OTA free are right - the quality of the OTA signal is generally better than what I got on cable HDTV. I can also second that comment about some weird/fun sub-channels showing up.

Overall, we're fine so far - losing the DVR has been a challenge, but we're okay with it. Netflix needs more content, Hulu Plus streaming is goofy at best right now, and the OTA antenna is a MUST.

Hope that helps, YMMV.

alent1234
Jan 19, 2011, 12:25 PM
I'm currently paying $99 plus DVR for cable/internet/phone

it's going to cost me $50-60 for internet/phone from Clearwire. that leaves $40 to $50 difference. netflix and Hulu plus is going to be $16 together. so now that is down to $24 to $34 in savings.

not sure if it's enough to make me kill cable. maybe if AT&T or VZ offered something that cost a little more on top of my wireless bill

spice weasel
Jan 19, 2011, 12:46 PM
I'm currently paying $99 plus DVR for cable/internet/phone

it's going to cost me $50-60 for internet/phone from Clearwire. that leaves $40 to $50 difference. netflix and Hulu plus is going to be $16 together. so now that is down to $24 to $34 in savings.

not sure if it's enough to make me kill cable. maybe if AT&T or VZ offered something that cost a little more on top of my wireless bill

I'd say that it's probably not worth cutting cable in your case, unless you find that a) you don't really watch much cable programming, and b) can get good OTA reception or can get unencrypted networks via QAM.

Cutting cable really only makes sense for people like me: I don't watch a lot of television (and hardly any cable shows), can get good OTA reception/QAM, and don't mind the offerings from Netflix. Otherwise, you'll find that trying to replicate the cable television experience can end up being almost as costly with a lot more hassle.

JRoDDz
Jan 19, 2011, 12:50 PM
Apple tv is a nice little gadget. But it's still a few yrs away from replacing cable completely.

It wasn't made to replace cable. It's an iTunes delivery device for your TV (with some added perks such as netflix).

alent1234
Jan 19, 2011, 12:56 PM
It wasn't made to replace cable. It's an iTunes delivery device for your TV (with some added perks such as netflix).

yep

with vudu (wal mart) being in most internet connected TV's these days apple needed something to protect itunes

my guess is that this year or next they will sell a full TV and that the current ATV is just a filler product to disrupt the market for roku and other devices/services

Tilpots
Jan 19, 2011, 12:56 PM
Overall, we're fine so far - losing the DVR has been a challenge, but we're okay with it.

Curious why you don't get a DVR solution for your setup? It's been one of the best, most necessary features in my household, and at $150 for a brand new device, the cost really was worth it.

cdavis11
Jan 19, 2011, 02:35 PM
Curious why you don't get a DVR solution for your setup? It's been one of the best, most necessary features in my household, and at $150 for a brand new device, the cost really was worth it.

Between Hulu and Netflix, I basically have a multi-room DVR. I can stop a Hulu or Netflix episode and pick it up on the Roku or aTV in my basement (mirrored the setup on my basement HDTV).

OTA, for me anyway, is just about local news and weather...here in Nebraska, USA, it's nice to have the weather on during the stormy springtime.

cdavis11
Jan 19, 2011, 02:37 PM
I'd say that it's probably not worth cutting cable in your case, unless you find that a) you don't really watch much cable programming, and b) can get good OTA reception or can get unencrypted networks via QAM.

Cutting cable really only makes sense for people like me: I don't watch a lot of television (and hardly any cable shows), can get good OTA reception/QAM, and don't mind the offerings from Netflix. Otherwise, you'll find that trying to replicate the cable television experience can end up being almost as costly with a lot more hassle.

I'll second that.

For us, it's not a gigantic savings...$60 a month. To me, it's more about not paying for 300+ channels of garbage I don't watch and getting the 5 or 6 shows I follow cheaply through streaming devices.

alent1234
Jan 19, 2011, 02:43 PM
on hulu plus how long do you have to wait for the big shows like glee, american idol, grey' anatomy etc?

i don't care, but my wife watches those

spice weasel
Jan 19, 2011, 02:54 PM
on hulu plus how long do you have to wait for the big shows like glee, american idol, grey' anatomy etc?

i don't care, but my wife watches those

Generally they are available the next day. I don't have Hulu Plus, but that's the way regular Hulu operates.

Tilpots
Jan 19, 2011, 03:51 PM
Between Hulu and Netflix, I basically have a multi-room DVR. I can stop a Hulu or Netflix episode and pick it up on the Roku or aTV in my basement (mirrored the setup on my basement HDTV).

OTA, for me anyway, is just about local news and weather...here in Nebraska, USA, it's nice to have the weather on during the stormy springtime.

I know all about the need for local weather in my neck of the woods!

The way you're using those sites is great, but I don't know if I could have cut the cord without a DVR. I think that each of us having the option of how we consume our shows... is one of the best parts of the deal.:)

cdavis11
Jan 19, 2011, 04:22 PM
on hulu plus how long do you have to wait for the big shows like glee, american idol, grey' anatomy etc?

i don't care, but my wife watches those

They're available the next day.

My wife does the same - Greys Anatomy is a biggie. Quality is great when it's working - but Hulu Plus is having some growing pains/streaming problems right now. Proceed with caution, imho.

I ran a test in my house for a few weeks - had cable in place, but unplugged it and ran the streaming boxes as a test. It worked well, my wife felt comfortable with the interfaces...so we both agreed it was time and turned the DVR and other set top box in.

It helped to get her buy in, and I don't have to hear about the weird interfaces or having the change forced on her. It also helped to have the cable safety net there, just in case.

The kids don't care - so long as the Pixar catalog and a few seasons of curious george, olivia and martha speaks are available on the aTV.

cdavis11
Jan 19, 2011, 04:24 PM
I know all about the need for local weather in my neck of the woods!

The way you're using those sites is great, but I don't know if I could have cut the cord without a DVR. I think that each of us having the option of how we consume our shows... is one of the best parts of the deal.:)

Thanks. I understand your point - the nice thing about being unplugged is the myriad options we now have, isn't it?

I've had good luck with my Terk HDTV antenna, but I think i'm going to order and try the Antennas Direct DB2 from amazon as a test. It's reasonably priced, and the reviews seem to say great things.

eawmp1
Jan 19, 2011, 05:00 PM
Curious as to what you are using for internet access. Where I live the cable company has the best bandwidth.

thetruth1985
Jan 19, 2011, 06:04 PM
My current setup involves 2 PS3s, 3 Xbox 360s, and 2 Apple Tvs. I have been living without cable for a couple of years now and I have not skipped a beat. I get my NBA games through ESPN 360 on the xboxs. I have not bought Hulu Plus yet but I do have a netflix account. For OTA tv, I have a eyetv hooked to my imac to record all my shows and I can then export them into itunes.

One thing that I hate about cable is the way they nickel and dime you for things that should be free IMO. An extra 10 bucks for HD content, 5 bucks a month an for extra receiver, 6 bucks for a DVR, and don't even mention HBO and Showtime. It is very easy to add a extra 30 bucks to an already overpriced cable bill.

cdavis11
Jan 20, 2011, 09:00 AM
Curious as to what you are using for internet access. Where I live the cable company has the best bandwidth.

True, and it's the same here - i'm still paying for cable internet as it's the best option in town.

In general, when people talk about dumping cable they're talking about TV programming. Not necessarily internet.

aduteau
Jan 20, 2011, 10:53 AM
Boy I wish we Canadians had as much choice to stream TV shows as you guys over in the US.

- Our Netflix Catalog is a real joke compared to you guys....
- Hulu or Hulu plus is nowhere seen over here ... and has no plans in the foreseeable future to let us use the service to let us stream TV shows here in Canada.

Right now I use Boxee software on my Mac mini in the living room. Boxee allows me to stream TV shows from our local Canadian TV channels.
Thank You Boxee !!!!

Its not perfect, but at least I get some TV shows for free :)

Wish Hulu would come over here soon !!! :rolleyes:

ctdonath
Jan 20, 2011, 12:45 PM
If you move fast, retailers are dumping the >$250 Blu-ray Sony BDP-S570 for $150; it includes WiFi "N" built in, and streaming support for Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon VOD, and others. Heck, you can barely get a bottom-scraping BD player for $100, and for $50 more you get a really good one plus lots of streaming support. I just got one and am thrilled (but will still order an ATV2 in a few hours).

I dumped TV per se about 5 years ago. Netflix, streaming, etc. is more than enough to replace lowest-common-denominator high-price proliferation-of-ads cable/satellite TV. Only thing missing is live breaking news video; wish someone would pull that together for 'net streaming.

Tilpots
Jan 20, 2011, 01:19 PM
Only thing missing is live breaking news video; wish someone would pull that together for 'net streaming.

CNN (http://live.cnn.com/) does a decent job of covering live national news on the web.