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AMDGAMER
Jan 10, 2011, 11:52 PM
Anyone here go for the 27 Cinema? Would be awesome to have the 27 cinema connected to this and perhaps a keyboard, stand, and magic mouse. Anyone actually set that up yet?



shootingstar64
Jan 11, 2011, 04:29 AM
i do :D

When at home, i have my 11"er connected to the 27" ACD, Apple Wireless Keyboard and Magic Mouse. I do also own the mStand from RainDesign but actually donīt use it. Itīs a leftover from my previous 17" uMBP and the tiny tiny 11" MBA just looks to funny sitting on top of this stand :D:D:D

I emailed TwelveSouth to ask if they plan to come up with something for the new Airs,..... for sure they would not tell what they do have waiting in line, but gave me some "hints",....

Personally i would love to see something build for the Air to use in an upright position with some nicely done cable mangement as i use it in clamshell mode anyways,.....

shootingstar64
Jan 17, 2011, 05:31 PM
Meanwhile i came up with this little nifty idea:

http://gallery.mac.com/martinhansen/100238/IMG_1675/web.jpg?ver=12953063640001

http://gallery.mac.com/martinhansen/100238/IMG_1680/web.jpg?ver=12953063870001


The "Compass" stand i am using is a leftover from my iPad,... tell me what you think,...

AMDGAMER
Jan 17, 2011, 05:46 PM
Great setup. My only issue is I own a 24 ultrasharp LCD that accepts mini-display port...but I'd have no audio/isight etc, but it would connect. Trying to decide if having a 27 ACD along side it is worth it.

QuarterSwede
Jan 17, 2011, 05:48 PM
Meanwhile i came up with this little nifty idea:

http://gallery.mac.com/martinhansen/100238/IMG_1675/web.jpg?ver=12953063640001

http://gallery.mac.com/martinhansen/100238/IMG_1680/web.jpg?ver=12953063870001


The "Compass" stand i am using is a leftover from my iPad,... tell me what you think,...
Very nice setup.

Also, use [TIMG] please.

Mechinyun
Jan 17, 2011, 05:54 PM
^ thats awesome, is that a 13'' air? I am considering doing this myself now!

shootingstar64
Jan 17, 2011, 06:10 PM
^ thats awesome, is that a 13'' air? I am considering doing this myself now!

no,... it's the 11"

it would not make a differnce if you have a 13" mba,... go for it ;)

barebackbadger8
Jan 17, 2011, 06:13 PM
Meanwhile i came up with this little nifty idea:

http://gallery.mac.com/martinhansen/100238/IMG_1675/web.jpg?ver=12953063640001

http://gallery.mac.com/martinhansen/100238/IMG_1680/web.jpg?ver=12953063870001


The "Compass" stand i am using is a leftover from my iPad,... tell me what you think,...

love the setup fella

chrismacguy
Jan 17, 2011, 06:26 PM
I have the 27" Cinema hooked up to my Mac Pro - Its a beautiful display, Id take it over a 30"er anyday just for the backlight... Im getting a 13" MBA for it soon tho :D (And possibly another Cinema) - just to replace my poor MB :( (2 years old and still not portable enough)

shootingstar64
Jan 17, 2011, 06:36 PM
I have the 27" Cinema hooked up to my Mac Pro - Its a beautiful display, Id take it over a 30"er anyday just for the backlight... Im getting a 13" MBA for it soon tho :D (And possibly another Cinema) - just to replace my poor MB :( (2 years old and still not portable enough)

:D

i used to own a mac pro & 30" acd and a 17" uMBP,..... this (and a Mac mini Server) is all i have left,.... LOL

does everything for my needs,......

omni
Jan 17, 2011, 06:44 PM
shootingstar:

The bottom right hand corner of your screen - is that album artwork from itunes showing whats playing? If so, what are you using/doing to do that? Looks nice if its what I think it is.

shootingstar64
Jan 17, 2011, 06:55 PM
shootingstar:

The bottom right hand corner of your screen - is that album artwork from itunes showing whats playing? If so, what are you using/doing to do that? Looks nice if its what I think it is.

yup,... within iTunes 10.1.1 just click on the album artwork shown in the left corner,... then the miniplayer will pop up. it's a itunes built-in feature, no need to get additional stuff :D

omni
Jan 17, 2011, 10:39 PM
oh wow, somehow never noticed this! haha thanks

MoreAwesomeDanU
Jan 17, 2011, 11:52 PM
Hey guys, for those of you who hooked up the MBA to a larger monitor... Does it lag when you drag to expand the windows?

I have mine connected to a non apple 27" (dell u2711) mon, and connected via mini display to display, and it gets quite laggy when i move the windows around or drag corners to expand. Any solutions?

1rottenapple
Jan 17, 2011, 11:57 PM
pretty cool set up. Very minimalist, almost artistic like. Love apple products that's for sure.

Mechinyun
Jan 18, 2011, 08:52 AM
Hey guys, for those of you who hooked up the MBA to a larger monitor... Does it lag when you drag to expand the windows?

I have mine connected to a non apple 27" (dell u2711) mon, and connected via mini display to display, and it gets quite laggy when i move the windows around or drag corners to expand. Any solutions?

Sorry to hear this, my 27 ACD doesn't lag at all - i would think it shouldn't matter which monitor its hooked up too - very odd!

blow45
Jan 18, 2011, 09:39 AM
pretty cool set up. Very minimalist, almost artistic like. Love apple products that's for sure.

How do you guys keep the macbook from going to sleep with the lid closed? Do you use something like insomniaX or does it default on not going to sleep when the lid is closed and the acd is connected?

Nice set up btw, too bad the acd is glossy/glassy and not suited for so many of us...

mkelly
Jan 18, 2011, 09:40 AM
Sorry to hear this, my 27 ACD doesn't lag at all - i would think it shouldn't matter which monitor its hooked up too - very odd!

We've got a 27" ACD and a 27" iMac here. I've hooked my 11" MBA up to both and have had no problems with display lag, etc. It's so snappy that I'm actually considering switching to my MBA as my full-time machine - maybe getting rid of the 27" iMac altogether and replacing it with another ACD ... or just using it as a display and compile/build system.

Mechinyun
Jan 18, 2011, 10:48 AM
How do you guys keep the macbook from going to sleep with the lid closed? Do you use something like insomniaX or does it default on not going to sleep when the lid is closed and the acd is connected?

Nice set up btw, too bad the acd is glossy/glassy and not suited for so many of us...

I keep my 13'' air closed 99 percent of the time, hooked up to my 27 ACD. Once I power on the AIR while its open, I close it, it goes to sleep then I use my mouse to wake it only on the ACD. It stays on like normal, i think my settings make the computer sleep after about 30 minutes. I dont have any trouble with it sleeping out of the ordinary.

Mechinyun
Jan 18, 2011, 10:50 AM
We've got a 27" ACD and a 27" iMac here. I've hooked my 11" MBA up to both and have had no problems with display lag, etc. It's so snappy that I'm actually considering switching to my MBA as my full-time machine - maybe getting rid of the 27" iMac altogether and replacing it with another ACD ... or just using it as a display and compile/build system.

Interesting, I have another 27 inch ACD still in the box that i havent figured out how to hook up to the air as a second external (or 3rd depending on if im using the airs screen too). I see there is a matrox type splitter, but it doesn't sound like a optimal/natural solution.

AMDGAMER
Jan 18, 2011, 12:00 PM
I may order the 27 ACD...looks too awesome.

WildGuess
Jan 18, 2011, 01:08 PM
I have a similar setup, on the cheap! 22" Lg Flatron LED monitor ($150), Apple wireless keyboard (Amazon, $60), Logitech USB mouse ($20). Hooked up with DVI-D, adapter mini out and cable $20.
Oh yeah, MBA 13", Rev c.

shootingstar64
Jan 18, 2011, 06:00 PM
I may order the 27 ACD...looks too awesome.

:D don't blame it on me,... LOL

Detrias
Jan 18, 2011, 06:11 PM
no,... it's the 11"

it would not make a differnce if you have a 13" mba,... go for it ;)

So do think that stand could hold the 13 mba no problem? Really liked the setup

shootingstar64
Jan 18, 2011, 07:43 PM
So do think that stand could hold the 13 mba no problem? Really liked the setup

yup,... you should be fine.

karatekidk
Jan 18, 2011, 09:32 PM
I love that setup, shootingstar. Now, my issue is that I have my USB ipod dock, eyetv tuner and an external harddrive all hooked up to my mac mini. If I replace my mini with a MBA, do I just need to get an USB hub?

Scottsdale
Jan 19, 2011, 02:42 AM
The 24" LED ACD pops up in the refurb section several times per month for $599. The 27" ACD is $849 there. I highly recommend refurbished. In addition, I personally don't see much added value in going from 24" to 27."

For some people the 27" ACD makes more sense. But to someone who writes, like me, the 24" ACD is plenty capable and a bargain at $599. That is a $250 savings that could be invested until the next big Apple purchase is desired. I upgraded three 24" ACDs to three 27" ACDs, and I felt it was such little gain for the money. Both have the same web cam, power for MBA, USB hub, and speakers. The size is definitely not worth upgrading from a 24" LED ACD, but it would be worth upgrading from a 23" ACD for LED backlighting, webcam, power, and speakers.

Either the 24" or 27" LED ACD makes for an instant docking station transforming an MBA to a desktop, instantly.

flynz4
Jan 19, 2011, 02:54 AM
The 24" LED ACD pops up in the refurb section several times per month for $599. The 27" ACD is $849 there. I highly recommend refurbished. In addition, I personally don't see much added value in going from 24" to 27."

For some people the 27" ACD makes more sense. But to someone who writes, like me, the 24" ACD is plenty capable and a bargain at $599. That is a $250 savings that could be invested until the next big Apple purchase is desired. I upgraded three 24" ACDs to three 27" ACDs, and I felt it was such little gain for the money. Both have the same web cam, power for MBA, USB hub, and speakers. The size is definitely not worth upgrading from a 24" LED ACD, but it would be worth upgrading from a 23" ACD for LED backlighting, webcam, power, and speakers.

Either the 24" or 27" LED ACD makes for an instant docking station transforming an MBA to a desktop, instantly.

I always thought the 24" ACD was limited to 1080p resolution (1920X1080). Am I mistaken?

The larger displays are 2560X1600 or 2560X1440, which is about double the resolution if in fact the 24" is only 1080p. If so... then for my usage... it is a huge difference.

/Jim

Hellhammer
Jan 19, 2011, 03:03 AM
I always thought the 24" ACD was limited to 1080p resolution (1920X1080). Am I mistaken?

The larger displays are 2560X1600 or 2560X1440, which is about double the resolution if in fact the 24" is only 1080p. If so... then for my usage... it is a huge difference.

/Jim

24" - 1920x1200
27" - 2560x1440

It's up to one's usage. For writing, 27" may not offer much but in e.g. photo editing, you will love every extra pixel you can get.

Xeperu
Jan 19, 2011, 06:10 AM
24" - 1920x1200
27" - 2560x1440

It's up to one's usage. For writing, 27" may not offer much but in e.g. photo editing, you will love every extra pixel you can get.

I have a 24" Dell @ 1920x1200 (94 PPI)hooked up at one of my work locations in the States, looks like **** compared to the crispness of the 13" MBA (127PPI).

The 27" is slightly better (108 PPI).

Ideally I'd get a 24" at the resolution of the 27" (122 PPI). That would help a lot. but those screens are not being made.

shootingstar64
Jan 19, 2011, 09:17 AM
I love that setup, shootingstar. Now, my issue is that I have my USB ipod dock, eyetv tuner and an external harddrive all hooked up to my mac mini. If I replace my mini with a MBA, do I just need to get an USB hub?

thx karatekidk,.... if you plan to buy the 27" acd as well, you might come by with the 3 usb ports provided by the display itself?

i like my desk as uncluttered as it gets,... so i have a "BackPack" (http://www.twelvesouth.com/products/backpack/) attached to my display. on that thing i placed a 1TB external harddrive which canīt be seen in my pictures :D

Gruber
Jan 19, 2011, 10:24 AM
So you guys are happy with the super-small fonts and UI elements? I have connected a 30in Dell, and even there I find myself getting uncomfortable as soon as I move more than 30cm away.

Until MacOS can scale its UI, I would recommend as little resolution (but of course as many pixels) as possible.

If someone is shopping for a new display, I would probably recommend a last generation, non Apple 27in. The lower resolution can also be driven without the clunky dual DVI adaptor.

hsl
Jan 19, 2011, 11:59 AM
So you guys are happy with the super-small fonts and UI elements?Yess! I even turned my default font to 8px :-)

Gruber
Jan 19, 2011, 02:54 PM
Yess! I even turned my default font to 8px :-)

That's the spirit!

AMDGAMER
Jan 19, 2011, 05:26 PM
I don't get why they don't offer more sizes. ONE apple display? Isn't Apple a little too big to offer one monitor? At least offer 24, 27 and 30" choices with the same technology.

Why did they drop the 24" LED???? It was the same monitor just smaller right?

shootingstar64
Jan 19, 2011, 06:27 PM
Very nice setup.

Also, use [TIMG] please.

sorry,... corrected that :o

hsl
Jan 20, 2011, 01:34 AM
Why did they drop the 24" LED???? It was the same monitor just smaller right?

Not entirely, the screen ratio was different. but for the rest, yeah about the same.

but 27" seems like a big monitor, if you're working with it for a few month it isn't anymore. But that's life with computers you always get used to speed and screensize :)

Hellhammer
Jan 20, 2011, 02:04 AM
Why did they drop the 24" LED???? It was the same monitor just smaller right?

I guess it was due to the price. 24" was what, 899$? That is only 100$ less than the current 27". Apple would have had to drop the price of the 24" quite significantly to make it competitive against its new big brother. Apple doesn't usually do that, lower price means less profit.

AMDGAMER
Jan 20, 2011, 04:08 PM
599 is perfect...I'll check the store for the refurb 24 ACD when is the last time anyone saw one on the refurb store?

flynz4
Jan 20, 2011, 11:26 PM
24" - 1920x1200
27" - 2560x1440

It's up to one's usage. For writing, 27" may not offer much but in e.g. photo editing, you will love every extra pixel you can get.

I actually like the extra width for writing especially if I am researching at the same time. With 2560 pixels across, I can easily have two documents (or a doc plus website) side by side.

/Jim

Yakob
Jan 20, 2011, 11:34 PM
599 is perfect...I'll check the store for the refurb 24 ACD when is the last time anyone saw one on the refurb store?

Don't know about recently but i bought mine about a year ago... had to stock the refreb store everyday for about a week until one showed up... awsome deal in my opinion for a 24" 16x10 H-IPS monitor. It's been awesome so far, has the same warranty as new except that if there is a problem you have to wait for a replacement, if you had bought a new one they would just hand you a brand new one off the shelf if you had any problems.

Be patient... you wont regret it. ;)

Scottsdale
Jan 21, 2011, 03:33 AM
Actually, the price was dropped on the 24" to $799.

Yes, they have different ratios. The 24" is/was Apple's then common 16:10 while the 27" is 16:9. To me it looks a little "off" just like the 11" MBA looks off.

The 24" does have better resolution than 1080p, but a lot of people need to not make such a deal of all of the numbers. The 24" is stunning, as. It's IPS and offers all of the same features as was carried over to the 27" ACD. Yes, as someone pointed out we all have different uses. However, for anyone who is a non-graphics pro the 24" is gigantic.

With my desk space and distance the ACDs sit from my eyes, the 27" is too close. I find myself actually turning my neck to see parts of the screen, and that's not ideal. The 24" ACD is in the refurb section a few days per month. Usually they show up in the mornings and are gone by afternoon. You need to look daily if you want to buy one. The 27" also shows up there for $849.

Whichever route you go, 24" or 27", I recommend saving the money and getting refurbished ACDs. The savings is great, and it's the same as new. If you read about what refurbished is, Apple states that anything that has been "used" gets new "case" aluminum parts. That is one reason why they look new.

DarwinOSX
Jan 21, 2011, 05:18 PM
I'm constantly adjusting font sizes on my 27" iMac because of the very high resolution. I'll probably find a 24" for my 13" MBA. Too bad Apple doesn't still make them.

AMDGAMER
Jan 21, 2011, 06:48 PM
I find it incredible a company like Apple offers ONE display in ONE size....thats kind of nuts. At least back couple years ago it was 20, 24, 30" ACD sizes...why the heck can't they do that now?

shootingstar64
Jan 21, 2011, 07:57 PM
i am not a fanboy, but i think display-wise apple is doing it completly right!

as a previos owner of several apple made displays, including 20" or 30" ACDīs and the 24" LED ACD the new 27" hands down is the best display i have ever owned.

the ascpect ratio of 16:9 makes it a lot more convinient to have letīs say one browser window open for research and another next to it for coding, writing or whatever your heart delights ;) if you have some server volumes mounted on your desktop like i do there is also some room left for those.

also keep in mind apple is NOT a computer company anymore,..... they are kind of a media business and selling tools to consume content which is offered by the very same company!

think movies and tv shows from itunes,... every modern tv set comes with a 16:9 aspect ratio and there is a reason for that!

ever tried watching a movie like "avatar" on an old fashioned 4:3 AR tv?

sizewise inmho 27" is the only way to go,.... and believe it or not within a couple of days most of you would become so acustomed to this size, you never will go back!

not that i want to compare a tv in the living room with a monitor sitting on an office desk, but compared to our 50" plasma tv the 27" is tiny :D

when we first got that 50" installed in our home, we simply have been overwhelmed by its size,.... starring on a shut-off jet-black screen was intimidating and like sitting in front of an upcoming storm front,.... but if i would do it again, i might opt for an even bigger screen! movies are so much more fun to watch on monsters like this,.... :D

no kidding, but within a couple weeks of using the 27" acd, it virtually shrinks in front of your eyes,.... ;)

just my 2cents

Mechinyun
Jan 21, 2011, 08:28 PM
i am not a fanboy, but i think display-wise apple is doing it completly right!

as a previos owner of several apple made displays, including 20" or 30" ACDīs and the 24" LED ACD the new 27" hands down is the best display i have ever owned.

the ascpect ratio of 16:9 makes it a lot more convinient to have letīs say one browser window open for research and another next to it for coding, writing or whatever your heart delights ;) if you have some server volumes mounted on your desktop like i do there is also some room left for those.

also keep in mind apple is NOT a computer company anymore,..... they are kind of a media business and selling tools to consume content which is offered by the very same company!

think movies and tv shows from itunes,... every modern tv set comes with a 16:9 aspect ratio and there is a reason for that!

ever tried watching a movie like "avatar" on an old fashioned 4:3 AR tv?

sizewise inmho 27" is the only way to go,.... and believe it or not within a couple of days most of you would become so acustomed to this size, you never will go back!

not that i want to compare a tv in the living room with a monitor sitting on an office desk, but compared to our 50" plasma tv the 27" is tiny :D

when we first got that 50" installed in our home, we simply have been overwhelmed by its size,.... starring on a shut-off jet-black screen was intimidating and like sitting in front of an upcoming storm front,.... but if i would do it again, i might opt for an even bigger screen! movies are so much more fun to watch on monsters like this,.... :D

no kidding, but within a couple weeks of using the 27" acd, it virtually shrinks in front of your eyes,.... ;)

just my 2cents


AGREED.. 27 for me is now just .. normal. So weird, I remember seeing them in the store and thinking.. good god thats big.

Also big ups to:
QuarterSwede for the compass stand inspiration for my air. I have two on the way from ebay! $15 each too!

zinka
Jan 21, 2011, 08:43 PM
Just got the LED Cinema Display; I've been using it with my MBA. Today I got a kernel panic ("you have to shut down your computer now") while playing a video in QT Player and simultaneously scrolling in Google Maps. Yikes. Has anyone else had kernel panics with the monitor?

DarwinOSX
Jan 22, 2011, 12:15 AM
Thats a great idea. Gotta run to the Apple store tomorrow and get one of those stands. I was waiting on Twelve South to come up with a MBA insert for their laptop stand but oh well.

Meanwhile i came up with this little nifty idea:

http://gallery.mac.com/martinhansen/100238/IMG_1675/web.jpg?ver=12953063640001

http://gallery.mac.com/martinhansen/100238/IMG_1680/web.jpg?ver=12953063870001


The "Compass" stand i am using is a leftover from my iPad,... tell me what you think,...

DarwinOSX
Jan 22, 2011, 12:18 AM
The monitor cannot cause a kernel panic.

Just got the LED Cinema Display; I've been using it with my MBA. Today I got a kernel panic ("you have to shut down your computer now") while playing a video in QT Player and simultaneously scrolling in Google Maps. Yikes. Has anyone else had kernel panics with the monitor?

DarwinOSX
Jan 22, 2011, 12:19 AM
One of the first things Jobs did when he came back to Apple was get rid of the multitude of models of everything they were selling. Fewer products mean its easier to get components and ensure availability.

I find it incredible a company like Apple offers ONE display in ONE size....thats kind of nuts. At least back couple years ago it was 20, 24, 30" ACD sizes...why the heck can't they do that now?

shootingstar64
Jan 22, 2011, 05:26 AM
Just got the LED Cinema Display; I've been using it with my MBA. Today I got a kernel panic ("you have to shut down your computer now") while playing a video in QT Player and simultaneously scrolling in Google Maps. Yikes. Has anyone else had kernel panics with the monitor?

i have had a similar kernel panic shutdown while streaming a movie from my server within itunes and tagging some photos using "Places" within aperture (which also uses "Gmaps").

anyway i have not been able to replicate this, and i asure you this is NOT a problem coming from the 27" ACD! when that happened my MBA was not hooked to the ACD,.... must have something todo with Gmaps as i never experienced any problems with any version of QT so far.

as long as those kp's not showing up anymore just enjoy your setup,.... i do enjoy mine :D

zinka
Jan 22, 2011, 10:23 AM
The monitor cannot cause a kernel panic.

Duh. The question is whether other people have had lots of crashes while using a large external monitor and putting more graphics load on the machine.

Mechinyun
Jan 22, 2011, 01:39 PM
Duh. The question is whether other people have had lots of crashes while using a large external monitor and putting more graphics load on the machine.

Had mine hooked up to 27 ACD since november, heavy usage across the board, not one kernel panic.

Mechinyun
Jan 22, 2011, 01:45 PM
FYI for those wanting to do the compas stand setup as shown above.

Check ebay. They are half price and here is where i got my two the other day (they have multiple ones available here)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Desktop-Holder-Compass-Mobile-Stand-ipad-Tablet-PC-/160526974687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2560273edf#ht_3364wt_1153

Vijay Pather
Jan 23, 2011, 03:35 AM
Can anyone confirm whether this works with the new 13inch macbook airs in terms of the cables reaching because the power, mini display and usb are on opposing sides?

Thanks.

zinka
Jan 23, 2011, 03:38 PM
Can anyone confirm whether this works with the new 13inch macbook airs in terms of the cables reaching because the power, mini display and usb are on opposing sides?

Thanks.

Even on my 11", I've ordered USB and MDP extension cables because the fit is uncomfortably tight and I don't want to wear out the cables (which are hard-attached to the display). So I think you'd definitely want extensions for the 13".

Mechinyun
Jan 23, 2011, 08:24 PM
Even on my 11", I've ordered USB and MDP extension cables because the fit is uncomfortably tight and I don't want to wear out the cables (which are hard-attached to the display). So I think you'd definitely want extensions for the 13".

It is a tight fit thats for sure, IMHO extensions are not totally necessary though unless your doing quite a bit of hooking/unhooking as it is a pain in the ass.

DarwinOSX
Jan 24, 2011, 12:21 PM
No it wasn't. You are now redefining the question. In any event, no it would not cause a kernel panic. Duh.

Duh. The question is whether other people have had lots of crashes while using a large external monitor and putting more graphics load on the machine.

DarwinOSX
Jan 24, 2011, 12:23 PM
That looks like a knockoff imitation of the Compass stand. Is that accurate and what is the quality like if so?

FYI for those wanting to do the compas stand setup as shown above.

Check ebay. They are half price and here is where i got my two the other day (they have multiple ones available here)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Desktop-Holder-Compass-Mobile-Stand-ipad-Tablet-PC-/160526974687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2560273edf#ht_3364wt_1153

DarwinOSX
Jan 24, 2011, 12:26 PM
599 is perfect...I'll check the store for the refurb 24 ACD when is the last time anyone saw one on the refurb store?

Couple weeks ago. They come and go very quickly. I think they have an RSS feed for the rfurb store you can use to keep an eye on it.

Mechinyun
Jan 24, 2011, 03:16 PM
That looks like a knockoff imitation of the Compass stand. Is that accurate and what is the quality like if so?

I'll let you know as soon as I get them.

Mechinyun
Feb 1, 2011, 10:17 AM
Ok, so got my compass stands from ebay yesterday. Yes, they are a knock off, but they are exactly like the real one, they must be made in the same factory and these are made in the "off hours" and repackaged for sale as many other items are. Even comes with the little pouch carrying case.

The only difference is this one doesn't have the 12south logo on it. Highly recommended.

Now putting that issue aside, using this stand with the 13 inch air works, works great. However, one thing to keep in mind, which I almost found out the hard way. Its not the most sturdy setup in the world. If you have kids (like me) or its in the line of fire of being knocked over... beware it can and will fold up if pushed or pulled from certain ways. :eek:

Ronnoco
Feb 1, 2011, 11:57 AM
I have the 27" ACD and no lag...I use both my 15" i5 MBP and my 11" MBA with it and no problems at all...love it! :D

AMDGAMER
Feb 1, 2011, 09:28 PM
I'm thinking of going with the refurb to save 100-150...

Is it too risky? Does it really come like NEW condition?

gdeputy
Feb 1, 2011, 10:21 PM
I'm thinking of going with the refurb to save 100-150...

Is it too risky? Does it really come like NEW condition?

Great idea. Apple refurbs are excellent. The iMac I bought is a refurb and looks just like the brand new i3 I returned. Paid the price of a base iMac and got the 2000$ version, awesome deal. Everything is packaged the same the only difference is your missing the box, (comes in a white box, similar just no graphics on it).

iZac
Feb 2, 2011, 07:44 AM
I find it incredible a company like Apple offers ONE display in ONE size....thats kind of nuts. At least back couple years ago it was 20, 24, 30" ACD sizes...why the heck can't they do that now?

I guess it's all about numbers, the market for their stand alone monitors must be pretty small. Consider that the average consumer (i.e. not anyone on this forum) frequently balks at a monitor priced at $1000 when they can pick up a cheapo TN 24" from Acer for buttons.

Macbook / iMac owners may lean toward one for a second monitor because it matches their machine and they have money to burn, but even the simple purchase of a secondary monitor on either of these is a relative rarity for many people.

Mini users will go for whatever is cheapest and Mac Pro users would often go toward a Eizo or NEC or something, which has a more professional pedigree.

I’d be really interested to see what the sales numbers are for the ACD, but you know bigger screens mean more profit :P

AMDGAMER
Feb 2, 2011, 10:01 AM
In 2010 $999 for a monitor is pretty darn high. Back when LCD was new, they were all expensive, now you can get a good REAL LCD for 500-600 bucks.

$849 free shipping is better..but to be honest I think a refurb should be $749. That would make sense for a monitor that was sent back and possibly fixed.

MoreAwesomeDanU
Feb 2, 2011, 03:09 PM
In 2010 $999 for a monitor is pretty darn high. Back when LCD was new, they were all expensive, now you can get a good REAL LCD for 500-600 bucks.

$849 free shipping is better..but to be honest I think a refurb should be $749. That would make sense for a monitor that was sent back and possibly fixed.

actually with the panel that the ACD has, 999$ for a 27" is not that bad

AMDGAMER
Feb 2, 2011, 06:21 PM
I agree but as someone said very few people want to drop a grand on a monitor. I'm one of those people who does like most of us on here.

However I think we deserve at LEAST 2-3 display size choices. 24", 27", 30".

A company the size and power of Apple should have a selection of at least three. No excuses. It can be the SAME display, but just resize it. Cant tell me Apple cant handle that. They can make 3 different imac.s

BENJMNS
Feb 3, 2011, 03:33 PM
Just picked it up, hooked up to my 13 ult.

works perfectly. im enjoying the additional real estate and a real mouse. the microsoft mouse tracks way faster than the apple ones (a must for me). right click is a must as well.

thanks for your help guys.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/BENJMNS/IMG-20110203-00173.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j250/BENJMNS/Screenshot2011-02-03at13135PM.png

Ronnoco
Feb 3, 2011, 04:54 PM
just picked it up, hooked up to my 13 ult.

Works perfectly. Im enjoying the additional real estate and a real mouse. The microsoft mouse tracks way faster than the apple ones (a must for me). Right click is a must as well.

Thanks for your help guys.


sweet! :D

hohohong
Feb 4, 2011, 03:55 AM
Duh. The question is whether other people have had lots of crashes while using a large external monitor and putting more graphics load on the machine.

I don’t have crashes but my 1.86 SSD MBA comes laggy when using my 24” ACD: playing HD movie via VLC as well as HD youtube.

When not plugged into my ACD, my MBA is not as laggy.

Ronnoco
Feb 4, 2011, 12:48 PM
I don’t have crashes but my 1.86 SSD MBA comes laggy when using my 24” ACD: playing HD movie via VLC as well as HD youtube.

When not plugged into my ACD, my MBA is not as laggy.

Is your MBA a rev. D?