Cooknn
Jan 30, 2005, 11:28 PM
A blog from Iraq.
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
3rdpath
Jan 30, 2005, 11:43 PM
the relative ease in which blogs can be used as a propaganda tool makes them of little value as a source of impartial information....imho.
solvs
Jan 31, 2005, 03:34 AM
Um, yeah... ok. So where are those WMDs, or ties to Al Qaida? Isn't that why people like my best friend were sent over there? Now it's all about freedom?
Well, I'm glad they're voting. I'm glad this may work out well in the long run. Hey look at Vietnam... oops. I mean, Korea... Well, nm, I'm still happy it's all suddenly going well. But that doesn't mean I'm happy about they way they went about this war. I'm not happy that over 1300 troops are dead and we had to kill thousands of Iraqs to free them. I'm not happy that we were guarding the oil reserves instead of the weapons that were there, and that our troops have to scrounge for equipment.
But hey, some guy wrote that things are fine in some blog. Guess I'll just stop complaining and stop believing guys I know who have been there. After all, everyone knows the best way to spread freedom is down the barrell of a gun.
diamond geezer
Jan 31, 2005, 04:42 PM
Doesn't really sound like it was written by an Iraqi in Iraq.
Nice Banner Ad for "Terrorist Takedown", where you play at being an American Soldier.
Nice Links to Fox News on the side but no Al Jazerra.
Lyle
Jan 31, 2005, 05:07 PM
the relative ease in which blogs can be used as a propaganda tool makes them of little value as a source of impartial information....imho.Your point is well taken, but I'll throw in another (http://andiamnotlyingforreal.blogspot.com/2005/01/like-millions-of-iraqis-i-made-long.html) I just finished reading. It's written by a fellow who is very much anti-Bush (or at least claims to be) and gives his thoughts after talking to several Iraqi expatriates (living here in the U.S.) who voted last Saturday. An interesting read.
Xtremehkr
Jan 31, 2005, 06:58 PM
I wonder if this blog is funded by tax payer dollars as well. It has all of the right links.
Xtremehkr
Feb 1, 2005, 12:15 AM
Well, here's what I found concerning who this blog is linked to...
According to the donations page (http://donations.iraqdemparty.org/IraqTheModel_Donations.htm) there is a link to an organization called Spirit of America.
Spirit of America (http://www.spiritofamerica.net/) appears to be a wonderful organization doing some really wonderful things.
Jim Hake (http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Jim_Hake) founded Spirit of America and is not a stranger to the Administration.
In fact, Jim (http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2004/07/make_jime_hake.php) appears to be a rising star on the right as some want to nominate him to the UN.
Even mainstream conservative media outlets (http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/printThis.html?id=110004958) like Jim Hake.
Of course, some others (http://bushout.blogspot.com/2004/12/spirit-of-america-launches-defence-ali.html) are questioning ties to, well, Big Oil of course, in what seems to be an amazing coincidence.
What's funny is that they last blog linked discusses this very website...
Meanwhile, Ali at Iraq The Model has just quit the blog with no explanation except the following cryptic message:
This is the last time I write in this blog and I just want to say, goodbye. It's not an easy thing to do for me, but I know I should do it. I haven't told my brothers with my decision, as they are not here yet, but it won't change anything and I just can't keep doing this anymore.
My stand regarding America has never changed. I still love America and feel grateful to all those who helped us get our freedom and are still helping us establishing democracy in our country. But it's the act of some Americans that made me feel I'm on the wrong side here. I will expose these people in public very soon and I won't lack the mean to do this, but I won't do it here as this is not my blog.
At any rate, it's been a great experience and a pleasure to know all the regular readers of this blog, as I do feel I know you, and I owe you a lot.
Best wishes to all of you, those who supported us and those who criticized us as well.
Now, this may well be completely ridiculous. But I just find it amazing that a link can be found indirectly to the current administration, also indirectly involving big oil. At least it is not taxpayer money though.
Something tells me that Jim Hake is being groomed as a rising star. For the most part, it seems like he is doing a great job with SoA, for the most part.
Xtremehkr
Feb 1, 2005, 12:28 AM
Even the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4183721.stm) and the NYTimes (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20D16F8395C0C7B8DDDA80894DD404482) picked up on the story.
And then more information is offered by Ghandi the Blogger (http://bushout.blogspot.com/2005/01/fadhil-brothers-credibility-on-line_20.html), but I'll have to verify that information another time.
All you have to do is scratch the surface a little.
Expanded NYTs article: (http://bushout.blogspot.com/2005/01/iraq-model-questions-exposed-by-bbc.html)
"Pro-American Iraqi Blog Provokes Intrigue and Vitriol":
When I telephoned a man named Ali Fadhil in Baghdad last week, I wondered who might answer. A C.I.A. operative? An American posing as an Iraqi? Someone paid by the Defense Department to support the war? Or simply an Iraqi with some mixed feelings about the American presence in Iraq? Until he picked up the phone, he was just a ghost on the Internet.
The mystery began last month when I went online to see what Iraqis think about the war and the Jan. 30 national election. I stumbled into an ideological snake pit. Out of a list of 28 Iraqi blogs in English at a site called Iraqi Bloggers Central, I clicked on Iraq the Model because it promised three blogging brothers in one, Omar, Mohammed and Ali.
It delivered more than that. The blog, which is quite upbeat about the American presence in Iraq, had provoked a deluge of intrigue and vitriol. People posting messages on an American Web site called Martini Republic accused the three bloggers of working for the C.I.A., of being American puppets, of not being Iraqis and even of not existing at all.
Then abruptly, at the end of last month, Ali quit the blog without telling his brothers while they were in the United States attending a blogging conference at Harvard and taking part in a tour sponsored by Spirit of America, a nongovernmental group founded after 9/11 that describes itself as "advancing freedom, democracy and peace abroad."
Ali's last post sounded ominous, a kind of blogger's "Dear John" note:
"I just can't keep doing this anymore. My stand regarding America has never changed. I still love America and feel grateful to all those who helped us get our freedom and are still helping us establishing democracy in our country. But it's the act of some Americans that made me feel I'm on the wrong side here. I will expose these people in public very soon, and I won't lack the means to do this."
What happened?
Ali seemed to have gone through a radical transformation when he found out that his brothers, both described as dentists on their Web site, had met President Bush. Odd. I scrolled down a bit into the past and found that in mid-December a conspiracy theory had emerged about Iraq the Model on Martini Republic.
One of the principal bloggers there, Joseph Mailander, had some questions for the Iraqi brothers. He wanted to know whether someone in the United States government or close to it had set up the blog. (The Web host, based in Abilene, Tex., is called CIATech Solutions.) And what about the two brothers' tour of the United States? Did the American government "have a shadow role in promoting it?"
The questions boiled down to whether Iraq the Model had been "astroturfed." Astroturfing occurs when a supposedly grass-roots operation actually is getting help from a powerful think tank, governmental agency or any outside source with an agenda. Why else, Martini Republic asked, would the brothers have been feted in Washington?
Ali, while he was still at Iraq the Model, tried to quell some of the doubts: "Hi, I would be happy to answer your questions, as you do raise some valid questions." To the question of the Web host in Abilene, he responded, "All I remember is that we started our blog through the free blogger.com!"
Ali explained the name of the Web host, CIATech Solutions, by pasting in an e-mail message he got from an employee of the company explaining that the C.I.A. in the name is short for Complex Internet Applications and that the company "has nothing to do with the U.S. government."
As for financing, Ali said that Iraq the Model had received private donations from Americans, Australians, French, British and Iraqi citizens. In addition, the brothers were promised money from Spirit of America. But, he added, "We haven't got it yet."
That did not quiet the suspicions on Martini Republic. A man posting as Gandhi reported that his "polite antiwar comments were always met with barrages of crude abuse" from Iraq the Model's readers. His conclusion? The blog "is a refuge for people who do not want to know the truth about Iraq, and the brothers take care to provide them with a comfortable information cocoon." He added, "I hope some serious attention will be brought to bear on these Fadhil brothers and reveal them as frauds."
What kind of frauds? One reader suggested that the brothers were real Iraqis but were being coached on what to write. Another, in support of that theory, noted the brothers' suspiciously fluent English. A third person observed that coaching wasn't necessary. All the C.I.A. would need to do to influence American opinion was find one pro-war blog and get a paper like USA Today to write about it.
Martini Republic pointed out that the pro-war blog was getting lots of attention from papers like The Wall Street Journal and USA Today while antiwar bloggers like Riverbend, who writes Baghdad Burning, had gone unsung. Surely Iraq the Model did not represent the mainstream of Iraqi thinking?
Ali finally got exasperated: "The thing that upset me the most is that if there are some powers that are trying to use us and our writings as a propaganda tool, you and other bloggers as well as some of the media outlets are doing the same with anti-American Iraqi bloggers."
But his "if" seemed to signal that Ali, too, was indeed worried about being used.
That was on Dec. 12. Ali's "Dear John" letter followed on Dec. 19. Then he quietly resurfaced on the Internet as a blogger called Iraqi Liberal and, when that name generated too much online debate about what "liberal" meant, Free Iraqi.
Using an e-mail address listed on Iraq the Model, I got in touch with Ali to see what in the world was going on. And last week I finally got to talk on the telephone to Ali Fadhil, a 34-year-old doctor who was born to Sunni Muslims but said, "I don't look at myself as one now."
Why did he quit Iraq the Model? When was he going to expose the Americans who made him feel he was on the wrong side?
He was surprisingly frank. The blog had changed him. When the blog began, he said, "People surprised me with their warmth and how much they cared about us." But as time passed, he said, "I felt that this is not just goodwill, giving so much credit to Iraq the Model. We haven't accomplished anything, really."
His views took a sharp turn when his two brothers met with the president. There wasn't supposed to be any press coverage about their trip to the United States, he said. But The Washington Post wrote about the meeting, and the Arabic press ended up translating the story, which, Ali felt, put his family in real danger.
Anyway, he said, he didn't see any sense in his brothers' meeting with President Bush. "My brothers say it happened accidentally, that it was not planned." But why, he asked, take such an "unnecessary risk"? He explained his worries: "Here some people would kill you for just writing to an American."
Ali never did expose the people who made him feel that he was on the wrong side, and in fact conceded that he couldn't. As he confided on the phone, "I didn't know who the people were." Instead, he started his own blog. He said he had always wanted to do that anyway.
"Me and my brothers," he said, "we generally agree on Iraq and the future." (He is helping his brother Mohammed, who is running on the Iraqi Pro-Democracy Party ticket in the Jan. 30 election.) But there is one important difference: "My brothers have confidence in the American administration. I have my questions."
Now that seems genuine.
Wow.
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