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Kauai
Jan 14, 2011, 12:26 PM
I've heard that the ATV doesn't support subtitles. I watch a lot of anime and I'm very much so looking forward to when crunchyroll utilizes airplay, which they have said they plan to do. Will I not be able to have the subtitles?



iPhoneCollector
Jan 14, 2011, 12:32 PM
Use handbrake (http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php) to embed the subtitles to the video its a free open source tool for mac,windows and linux :D
Hope this helps

Kauai
Jan 14, 2011, 12:47 PM
Use handbrake (http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php) to embed the subtitles to the video its a free open source tool for mac,windows and linux :D
Hope this helps

Unfortunately until I can actually afford a better computer I'm stuck on a single core celeron. So yeah, converting videos takes forever for me. :p I usually have to do it over night.

iPhoneCollector
Jan 14, 2011, 12:51 PM
Unfortunately until I can actually afford a better computer I'm stuck on a single core celeron. So yeah, converting videos takes forever for me. :p I usually have to do it over night.

Jeah i know what you mean. If you dont have to own an apple product Then perhaps this (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=570) western digital tv media center will do the thing it supports all kinds of media files (inc. Avi,mpeg and so on) and can stream netflix and youtube among with others. Theres also a cheaper version of it just browse throu their website :)

Edit:here is the link for the cheaoer model (http://store.westerndigital.com/store/wdus/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/ThemeID.1300400/categoryID.43496300/parid.13092400/catid.13742300)

Kauai
Jan 14, 2011, 01:04 PM
Jeah i know what you mean. If you dont have to own an apple product Then perhaps this (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=570) western digital tv media center will do the thing it supports all kinds of media files (inc. Avi,mpeg and so on) and can stream netflix and youtube among with others. Theres also a cheaper version of it just browse throu their website :)

Edit:here is the link for the cheaoer model (http://store.westerndigital.com/store/wdus/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/ThemeID.1300400/categoryID.43496300/parid.13092400/catid.13742300)

Hmm. Actually I'd been looking at that before I decided to buy an ATV (I can still cancel the purchase, hasn't shipped). So I should be able to play mkv files WITH subtitles through that, right?

iPhoneCollector
Jan 14, 2011, 01:13 PM
I totaly forgot that one needs a router for the internet accses :) but anyway i think the apple tv is the best device to do that stuff but it wont support subtitles :( i also watch many videos that include subtitles and takes forever to convert them. You only have to hope that apple will release an update for the apple tv thR supports subtitles. So yes you will have to convert them in order to watch them with subtitles. If you are really lucky the anime you are watching is on netflix. But i doupt it is:(

Kauai
Jan 14, 2011, 01:21 PM
Haha yeah now that I think about it that is probably why I decided not to go with the WD TV. A dongle on top of the 200$ is a lot. I think us anime watchers need to start a union or something so we can push our weight. :p But until the great revolution I suppose I'll just have to make due with converting videos overnight... Or at least until Crunchyroll makes use of airplay and maybe will find a way to use subtitles.

I love Netflix but their anime section is pretty terrible besides an obscure movie or two. Hence why I have a Crunchyroll subscription too -- I swear with Netflix and Crunchyroll I don't know why I even have cable anymore (maybe cause my parents use it? Haha, if only I could get them to convert...)

Thank you for the suggestions any way.

newagemac
Jan 14, 2011, 01:55 PM
If you have .srt subtitles you can just add them to the file with Subler or other similar apps. No reencoding necessary. The .srt subtitles work on the Apple TV.

iPhoneCollector
Jan 14, 2011, 02:20 PM
No prob. Let us know how the subtitle thing went out. The apple tv also looks much nicer than the other boxes.

BlackMangoTree
Jan 14, 2011, 03:06 PM
Problem is most anime from the web uses SSA sub and apple tv or western digital live doesn't support them. I have Heaps of Anime which i can not watch on either device.

kuwisdelu
Jan 14, 2011, 03:25 PM
As pointed out, anime subtitles are either .ssa or .ass, which not a lot of devices support. Apple devices definitely don't, but they do support .srt subtitles.

So there are two options: re-encode and hard-sub it with Handbrake. This should work for the most part, but it's time-consuming, and Handbrake is still imperfect with complicated subtitle styles.

What I do: extract the .ass with MKVTools, re-save as .srt with Jubler, and remux into an mp4 with Subler. You will lose the formatting, styles, fonts, and karaoke effects. I don't mind watching subs that way since it's much easier than hard-subbing and I still get subtitles, but if retaining those are important to you, for most devices, the only option is to hardsub it.

BlackMangoTree
Jan 14, 2011, 03:50 PM
Reencoding isnt so bad depending on computer you have i haven i7 iMac and its so quick the issue is Handbrake has too many issues at the moment with ssa Hardsubs to be useful.

Unfortunately there is no way at the moment to play them on the Apple TV or WD TV Live.

A MacMini with Plex or PC with XBMC is the best option though ver expensive.