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wolfers
Feb 4, 2011, 04:31 PM
I got my new MacBook Air today (11"/2GB/1.4GHz/64GB) and I installed Flash 10 and ClickToFlash.

Channel 4oD's website had crashed the Mac twice now. Crashed as in the whole thing locks up. I feel like I'm back in the 90's or something!

Any thoughts/suggestions?



GGJstudios
Feb 4, 2011, 04:32 PM
I got my new MacBook Air today (11"/2GB/1.4GHz/64GB) and I installed Flash 10 and ClickToFlash.

Channel 4oD's website had crashed the Mac twice now. Crashed as in the whole thing locks up. I feel like I'm back in the 90's or something!

Any thoughts/suggestions?

Where did you get the impression that Macs don't crash? Any computer can crash, regardless of the OS installed.

walterwhite
Feb 4, 2011, 04:35 PM
somehow, something got really messed up in the installation of one or both of those... throw them away or uninstall bot and se if the issue presists. You can also boot the MBA while holding down the "D" key (will take a while) and then it will run Apple Diagnostics and check its own hardware. If there is a problem there... get it replaced.

wolfers
Feb 4, 2011, 04:37 PM
Where did you get the impression that Macs don't crash? Any computer can crash, regardless of the OS installed.

I've had Macs for years and I can't remember the last time I had to do a force restart. I thought each application ran in its own little area and you could Force Quit it if it was misbehaving. That's what all my other Macs have done.

dr. shdw
Feb 4, 2011, 05:31 PM
Well it's probably crashing because of Flash.........:rolleyes:

Try a different browser or try not using ClickToFlash.

leftywamumonkey
Feb 4, 2011, 07:36 PM
Technology is never perfect. It wasn't your physical Mac that crashed anyways.

Anonymous Freak
Feb 4, 2011, 07:43 PM
Well it's probably crashing because of Flash.........:rolleyes:

Try a different browser or try not using ClickToFlash.

Not a big fan of ClickToCrash, myself.

I use Safari without Flash, and use Chrome (with its integrated Flash Player) when I need Flash.

bowlerman625
Feb 4, 2011, 08:20 PM
blame it on flash....or George W.??

BENJMNS
Feb 4, 2011, 10:24 PM
pretty naive comment.

my mba told me to shut down today. os x has its own set of flaws.

hcho3
Feb 4, 2011, 10:47 PM
Should have gotten 4GB ram...

It will get even worse in the future.

wisty
Feb 4, 2011, 11:21 PM
Mac have been stable as a rock since ... welll ever.

Windows has been just as stable as Macs since Windows 7. It has been OK since Windows 2000 as long as you reboot a lot.

Flash (on any platform) will crash like crazy. It may bring your browser down (depending on the browser - I think Chrome has some protection).

Funkymonk
Feb 4, 2011, 11:55 PM
Mac have been stable as a rock since ... welll ever.

Windows has been just as stable as Macs since Windows 7. It has been OK since Windows 2000 as long as you reboot a lot.

Flash (on any platform) will crash like crazy. It may bring your browser down (depending on the browser - I think Chrome has some protection).

This.

I use both windows 7 and osx and they are both equally fast, stable, and problem free but flash can make both crash. Osx a bit more.

Sucks because all my favorite prn sites use flash :(

Maven1975
Feb 5, 2011, 01:33 AM
Run Disk Utility (Search Spotlight for Disk Utility- Top right of screen-) and verify the disk and its permissions. Bet it fixes your issue.

BENJMNS
Feb 5, 2011, 03:07 AM
This.

I use both windows 7 and osx and they are both equally fast, stable, and problem free but flash can make both crash. Osx a bit more.

Sucks because all my favorite prn sites use flash :(

lol

kalsta
Feb 5, 2011, 03:15 AM
My Mac crashes regularly as in the whole system freezes up. Seems to have started around the time I updated to 10.6.5, and still with 10.6.6. Before that I would have agreed with all the comments about OS X being rock solid.

jamespa66
Feb 5, 2011, 05:09 AM
Should have gotten 4GB ram...

It will get even worse in the future.

This has no relevance to the machine crashing, odds are it was caused by flash.

colourfastt
Feb 5, 2011, 01:40 PM
My Mac crashes regularly as in the whole system freezes up. Seems to have started around the time I updated to 10.6.5, and still with 10.6.6. Before that I would have agreed with all the comments about OS X being rock solid.

My iMac has the same problem; it started with 10.6.3. It's so bad I just rolled back to 10.6.2 and so far no crashes.

neteng101
Feb 5, 2011, 04:05 PM
odds are it was caused by flash.

:rolleyes: People really buy into the Flash is bad thing, don't they? Rather sad, its not perfect, but attributing a hard crash to Flash itself really sad. Odds are its ClickToFlash causing the issue, or a hardware issue (Flash uses CPU, CPU usage causes heat, a badly installed heatsink could result in hard lockups, bad memory is another possibility).

Never had a hard crash due to Flash ever on OSX, no ClickToFlash, sure, had the share of browser crashes, but this is unlikely to be a pure Flash issue.

ecib
Feb 5, 2011, 04:29 PM
Not a big fan of ClickToCrash, myself.

I use Safari without Flash, and use Chrome (with its integrated Flash Player) when I need Flash.

I have the same setup. The only problem is that Flash does not play nice with Chrome either. I have Flash crash Chrome nearly every time I use it.

I also have Firefox with NoScript installed for that reason. I find it better than Chrome for watching Flash content, especially because you have the option to individually allow Flash elements to play via NoScript. Has been much more stable for me. The only pain is that I have to download the latest version of Flash for Firefox myself since it is not baked in like Chrome.

Zanthus
Feb 5, 2011, 04:46 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148a Safari/6533.18.5)

4od always crashes my mac that's flash for you it works in firefox fine though