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skinniezinho
Feb 6, 2011, 05:40 AM
Well, since in this section there are many times the same question, I decided to do a "F.A.Q." to keep the best information grouped.
I will try to do my best, if you have suggestion,please share them.
Don't use this topic for doubts.

Hardware Questions both for Notebooks and Desktops:


What mac do I have?

You can check you machine specs using the system profiler: apple logo=>about this mac=>more info.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10644330/MR_Image_Hotlinks/MR_screenshots/IdentifyYourMac.png
graphic made by simsaladimbamba (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=516412)

If your mac doesn't boot to MacOS, you can check up by its serial number, using this website. (http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html)


What is the maximum Ram that my mac can take? and wich ram it is? and where do I buy it?

The maximum ram that your mac can take and it's type is given on everymac.com (http://www.everymac.com/) or using the application mactracker (http://www.mactracker.ca/archive.html), if you search by your model.

Be sure that the ram that you buy is low density.

Ram can be bought on several places, but the best bet is crucial (http://www.crucial.com/mac/index.aspx) (for new ram).
For used ram/lower prices check ebay, there are many people selling ram pulled out from working macs, or even oem ram proved to work in mac (low density ram, check the feedback of the seller. Remember, high density RAM is cheaper than low density ram, so if a user is selling mac ram at higher prices, maybe he is not fooling you).


What is the maximum HDD that my mac can take? and wich type it is? and where do I buy it?

Well, one more time you can check everymac.com or mactracker to know what type of hdd do your mac take, if it is IDE or SATA, 2.5' (laptop) or 3.5' (desktop).

Some macs have a 128Gb limit on the "onboard Ide", I don't know about notebooks, but the list of desktop computers are here (http://forums.macnn.com/65/mac-pro-and-power-mac/246391/the-power-mac-storage-faq/):

Power Macintosh G3 - Beige
Power Macintosh G3 - B&W
Power Macintosh G4 - PCI/Yikes!
Power Macintosh G4 - Sawtooth
Power Macintosh G4 - Gigabit Ethernet
Power Macintosh G4 - Cube
Power Macintosh G4 - Digital Audio
Power Macintosh G4 - QuickSilver '2001' (733MHz, 867MHz, Dual 800MHz)

There are some "solutions for that:
1)SpeedTools ATA Hi-Capacity Driver - http://www.speedtools.com/ATA6.html

2)Open Firmware hack:

this DOES NOT WORK FOR OS9. For OS9, you will still need the speedtools driver available here:

http://www.speedtools.com/ATA6.shtml
This time, however, we need to write this to the non-volatile RAM so that the changes aren’t lost on reboot.

Reboot or Power up your Cube
Hold down Command + Option + O + F simultaneously as soon as the reboot starts.
You should now be at the Open Firmware prompt. Note that this is NOT the BASH prompt, so don’t try anything here.

Type in the following, exactly. Please note that the Underscore “_” is used to indicate a space.
nvedit
dev_hd
dev_..
"_"_"_lba-48"_property
device-end
Press Ctrl+C to exit from nvedit.
nvstore
setenv_use-nvramrc?_true
reset-all
That’s it. Now boot up and go to “About My Mac” to confirm the disk size.

If your disk was already formatted, it will have its original 128Gb partition and a region of inaccessible space at the end. It’s probably easiest to reformat the disk with a new partition scheme, unless you have some terminal disk utility or related tricks up your sleeve.

This hack will last until you reset the NV RAM (P RAM).
Similarly, if you hose your open firmware settings, use this fact to your advantage, perform a PRAM reset and start again.
If you do repartition the disk, it’s probably wise not to cross the 128Gb boundary with a partition, in case you ever have to reset the NV RAM, in which case you’ll only be able to access the first 128Gb of the the hard-disk. By splitting the disk at 128Gb, you’ll ensure that only whole partitions are visible and any partition after the 128Gb will be entirely invisible.

source (http://nanchatte.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/128gb-large-hdd-lba48-support-on-the-g4-cube-with-leopard/)

3)SATA/IDE - PCi cards- this go for 60-80 dollars, and can be found on OWC (http://www.macsales.com/), ebay and maybe other stores.


I have IDE type hdds on my mac, but they are becoming scarce and the prices are becoming higher, is there a solution?

If you have a laptop, or a desktop with limited size for hdd, guess you have to stay with IDE hdds.
For those who have plenty of space (powermacs for example), you can use sata HDD's with SATA to IDE converter. They are available from ebay at something 3euros shipping included, or 40eur in other stores. It's up to you, guess you wouldn't notice any difference


I heard about SSD's,can I have one in my mac? it only has IDE ports

Most ssd's are available only with SATA interface, although as covered before if you have a desktop, you can either use the SATA to IDE converter or a SATA to pci card.
For Laptop users there are only two options:
1) IDE ssds - they are scarce but they exist! OWC has a high variety of sizes (http://eshop.macsales.com/search/ide+ssd) and there is the 32Gb Transcend (http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-32GB-SSD-2-5-Inch/dp/B000T9QRKE).

2) Compact Flash (CF Cards) - CF cards are like "mini ssds", although the performance is worse than a good ssd, it benefits from the "almost zero miliseconds" time acess.
The CF cards can be used through adapters (to desktop 40 pin IDE (desktop) or 44pin IDE (laptop) available on ebay for something like 3/4eur),these adapters can take one or two cfs.
Because of the size, cf cards can fit on laptops with the adapters.
CF Cards are good alternatives to people who don't need much space (32Gb of a good CF (2x16Gb 400x or more) is almost the same price of an IDE SSD) but want more speed, less noise/vibration (the problem of high speed 7200rpm HDD's in laptops) and a little more battery.
Don't buy a CF with speed less than 233/266x, it will be very slow.

more options and info here (http://lowendmac.com/macdan/md10/powerbook-ibook-ssd.htm)

My mac only has a CD-Reader, I want to put a DVD, where do I buy them?

In this part I don't have sure, but I guess you use any ordinary pc optical drive, if you then use patchburn (http://www.patchburn.de/).
If you don't want to risk, search for mac compatible drives.

Can I upgrade my processor?

Laptops - I don't have great info about this, but I guess only the powerbook g3 allowed processor upgrades (check OWC site, Sonnet, Gigadesign, Lowendmac.com for more info) although be aware that a faster processor will probably produce more heat and consume more battery.
*Under construction*

Desktops - g3's, g4's do have processor upgrades,either swap from newer machines to older (for example, the dual g4 500MHz fit in some Sawtooth (it has to have a Uni-N revision 7 chipset).
CPU Upgrades Reviews Here (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/cpucards.html)
OWC has a high range of cpu upgrades,although you can find it on ebay too.

G5's don't have processor upgrades.


*Under construction*

Can I upgrade my Powerpc processor to an intel one?

Short Answer: NO

Long Answer: the most that you can do, is taking all powerpc stuff inside your case and put there and "hackintosh".That will take you time,and some do-it-yourself.



skinniezinho
Feb 6, 2011, 05:40 AM
How can I add Wifi to my mac?

First of all, get some info about Wifi protocols: here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11).
You will find that N protocol>G protocol>B protocol in terms of speed..

I will divide this into parts:

1)For macs with the Original Apple Airport Slot here are the options that fit in that slot:

1.1)Original Apple Airport - available on ebay from 20 to 50eur

1.2)Non Original PC Cards with a little DIY:
DIY Guide here (http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/662/diy-airport-for-that-old-ibook)
List of the PCCARDS/PCMCIA cards here (http://lowendmac.com/macdan/md09/mac-wifi-pc-card.htm)

2)For macs with the Original Apple Airport Extreme Slot here are the options that fit in that slot:

2.1)Original Apple Airport Extreme Card

2.2)Some Broadcom MiniPCI Cards (not mini pci-e!!!) this Broadcom 4318 MPG was stated to work in Lowendmac Groups for example (http://cgi.ebay.com/Broadcom-Mini-PCI-WIFI-802-11b-g-54Mbps-Wireless-Card_W0QQitemZ220385813369QQcategoryZ45001QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26i tu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6894907017835628086#ht_2589wt_986)


2)USB-Type Wifi Cards - this in my opinion is one of the easiest/cheapest ways of adding wifi to a mac. A 300MBps N Wifi usb adapter can be bought for less than 20eur.

2.1)Branded Cards - Conceptronics (for example SMCWUSBS-N3), Some Asus, etc..best bet, if it doesn't have mac drivers, try to know wich chip does it use, then go to the chip maker webpage and see if it has drivers for mac. For example,most of the cards today use ralink chips, most of them have mac drivers, although vendors don't say so.


2.2)Non-Brand Cards - ebay,just do the same thing that I said for branded cards (you can ask the seller too),will appear good examples like this ones:

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/2803/screenshot20110206at125.th.png (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110206at125.png/)
High Power 300Mbps Wireless N WiFi USB Network Adapter- (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360317913827&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_3829wt_986) - in the description: Supported OS: Window 2000, XP, Vista, Window 7, Linux and MAC OS X

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2803/screenshot20110206at125.th.png (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110206at125.png/)
150Mbps Micro USB Wireless N 802.11n/g WiFi LAN Adapter (http://cgi.ebay.com/150Mbps-Micro-USB-Wireless-N-802-11n-g-WiFi-LAN-Adapter-/300523085027?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f8925ce3#ht_3872wt_1063)


3)PCI Type Wifi Cards - divided into two sections:

3.1)Native PCI Wifi Cards - one more time, search for the ones with chips that have drivers for mac, for example Realtek, Ralink.
I saw a Conceptronic 300Mbps C300Ri V3 card for cheap on a store, downloaded windows drivers, and saw RT2860 (ralink chip), although when I bough it, the chip on the card was RT3062 wich doesn't have mac drivers on site...I tried the rt2860 drivers,and it worked!
One more time, a search on ebay, will give you 300Mbps PCI Cards for about 20eur with mac drivers like this one (realtek):
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8436/screenshot20110206at112.th.png ("[URL=http://img820.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110206at112.png/)

skinniezinho
Feb 6, 2011, 06:59 AM
3.2)PCi Adapters- mini PCI to PCI adapters, to make use of the mini PCI cards such as the original airport extreme or the "broadcom" ones.
As far as I know, there are only B/G mini pci cards.

I think that cardbus to pci adapters should work too. Here is a list of Mac compatible Wifi Cardbus (http://lowendmac.com/macdan/md09/mac-wifi-cardbus.htm) (valid for laptops to!)


http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5515/screenshot20110206at117.th.png (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20110206at117.png/)

example (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110562755286&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_3720wt_804)



How can I add Bluetooth to my Mac?

For those who don't any slots for bluetooth, the only option that I am aware are usb bluetooth dongles.
If you a branded dongle, search for anything with broadcom chip (TRUST uses them for example), or again OWC.
If you want the cheapest, you have a 5 dollar one here (http://lowendmac.com/reviews/09rev/usb-bluetooth-dongles.html) and I think the ones available @99pence on ebay are the same as that one (I ordered one to see!)

For those who have slots for original apple bluetooth cards, just search on ebay for them, or take a look here (http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Apple-Bluetooth-Card-for-PowerMac-G5--G4,-eMac,-iMac-G4--G5-and-Mac-Mini-A1044-p-31454.html) then here (adding bluetooth to a G5) (http://tersus.no/bluetooth/).
If you have another machine take a look @ifixit (http://www.ifixit.com/) to know how to put it.

Which webcam should I buy to use with my Mac?

Of course you buy an use an Apple iSight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISight), but they still have high prices compared to "pc" webcams.
In this site (http://www.mac-compatible-web-cam.com) and on the logitech site (http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6471/related/1) you can find mac compatible webcams.
Other option is to use the Macam Driver (http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/) with your webcam (or one in the list of compatible webcams)

skinniezinho
Feb 6, 2011, 07:25 AM
Hardware - Desktops Only


Most of the hardware covered before can be applied both to desktops (even those "laptop like" (imac,emac). This section will only cover the missing hardware modifications to desktop mac (powermacs).

Can I change my graphic card?

Yes, you have three options:

1)Buy a real mac card - with this one everything will work as it should, although you pay premium price for them. You can find them new on owc and sometimes on ebay.

2)Buy a PC Card already modded/flashed for mac - if you don't know anything about flashing, modding cards, but still don't want to pay the premium prices of Mac cards, this option is for you.
Be aware that you may have sleep issues or so, and when buying the card, tell the seller wich mac you have!
On ebay you will find lots of this cards, ati 9800, geforce 6200, 6800, etc..
I heard about this guy that sells some cards (http://www.s155158671.websitehome.co.uk/itemsforsaleaqua.html) and there are more like him, specially in the strangedogs forum (http://strangedogs.proboards.com/index.cgi)

3)Buy a PC Card, and turn it into a Mac card - If you know something about flashing/modding, and think that 90dollars for used and flashed ATi 9800pro is too much (truth is that they can be bought used for 30/40eur) this is for you.
Lots of reading of The Mac Elite Wiki (http://themacelite.wikidot.com/) and the strangedogs forum (http://strangedogs.proboards.com/index.cgi) will help you do it!
Don't rush the process, and one more time,read everything carefully.
Be aware of each model problems.

My PPC Mac Desktop is dead, I guess it is the power supply,but even used ones are too pricey, what can I do?

At least for some G3's and G4's you can mod an ordinary-easy to find-cheap to buy ATX power supply to work with it, here are some usefull links:

http://atxg4.com/sawtooth.html
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/ATX_G4_AGP_conversion/G4_AGP_to_ATX_case_pg2.htm#next
http://www.applefritter.com/node/9274


Remember, the power supply is the hear of your system, go for a good brand (for stock g4's and g3's you don't need top notch power supplys, but something as LC Power should be fine in terms of stability and price)

My Powermac has a busted fan, how do I know if the new fan has the same cfm (or more) of the old one?
Here (http://infohost.nmt.edu/~holstien/g4info.html) you have a list of fans used in powermacs, you can always compare.

Hardware - Laptops and Desktops (emac,imac)


This section will only cover the missing hardware modifications to laptop macs and iMacs and eMacs


Can I change my graphic card?

No.

Can I change my processor?

No.

Can my ppc laptop have two finger scrolling?and gestures?

Some ppc laptops can do 2 finger scrolling,using iscroll2 (http://iscroll2.sourceforge.net/).
About gestures, read this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1284969).

How do I monitor my battery on my ibook/powerbook?

You can use Coconut Battery (http://www.coconut-flavour.com/).
It can show you the number of cycles and the health of the battery.
Be aware that sometimes an "healthy" battery on coconut doesn't mean you are going to have a good experience with your battery.
My Ibook G3 showed 92% health, although it lasted me 1h, and when it was on 30% it shutdown.

How do I monitor my temperatures on my powerpc computer?

Use temperature monitor (http://www.bresink.de/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html) or iStat Pro (http://www.islayer.com/apps/istatpro/).

Where can I find parts for my ppc mac?

Apart from ebay and the marketplace here you can find other places and opinions about it
here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1284901).

Can I overclock my G3?G4?G5?

G3: YES http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/g3-zone/yosemite/oc.html
G4: some of them http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G4ZONE/g4yikesoc/ use google and forum search, there are threads and articles about it
G5: NO!

Recently a lot of info about overclocking ppc macs is here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1607786)

Is there a way to improve ATI RAge 128 performance?

Grab a read here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1691634

skinniezinho
Feb 6, 2011, 09:09 AM
Software Questions


What is the latest MacOS that my mac can run?

This info is available on everymac.com or mactracker.
For those who like to "hack", and get a newer version of MacOS on it's unsupported mac, there is Leopard Assist (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26562/leopardassist/) and xpostfacto (http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/).
Other option is installing the MacOS X version you want in a supported machine,then use carbon copy cloner to clone it to the machine HDD.
I did this for my powermac g4..using my macbook!it worked fine!See more about this here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1112834).


Can I run MacOS 10.6/10.7/10.8 on my powerpc mac?

No

Can I have iCloud on my powerpc mac?

No.iCloud Requires 10.7.2.
Althought some people claim to have synced iCal and Adressbook in unsupported system using tutorials like this one (http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20111014102515403&msg=15) and this one (http://www.hsiaoi.com/blog/?p=512).
If you have mobileme DON'T UPGRADE! I learned the hard way.No "apple" sync with my powermac.Using google now.

What Cloud services have clients that will run on my powerpc mac?

1) Dropbox - 10.4+
2) Sugarsync - you have to use version 1.9.42 (http://www.sugarsync.com/downloads/83621/SugarSyncManager.dmg) for powerpc 10.4+.
3) CXSync - 10.5 only,using a legacy (https://www.cx.com/cx-legacy-apps/) version.
4) Spideroak - from my searches I've found that there is an old version that works on 10.4+ powerpcs, but I mailed them.

Are there any software tweaks that I can make to make my experience better?

Before installing MacOS: install only the languages that you need,along with extras/drivers.

After installling MacOS: update it, uninstall the current version of flash with the uninstaller available here (http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/865/cpsid_86551.html#ostype=m,prob1=uninst,) and install the latest version of flash available wich is 10.1.102.64 available here (http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html).

See the section "Youtube is slow as hell,any tips?" for more info/tweaks about flash.

After that the only tweaks that I am aware of, are:

*Disabling the dashboard:Using Dashboard disabler (http://www.natal.be/index.php/?p=6) or by hand using this tutorial (http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20050723123302403).

*Disabling the spotlight:using this tutorial (http://osxdaily.com/2007/03/22/how-to-completely-disable-spotlight/).

*Use some of the following apps to remove the intel code from UB apps and undesired languages:

XSlimmer (http://www.xslimmer.com/)

Trimthefat (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/20404/trimthefat)

MonoLingual (http://monolingual.sourceforge.net/)

*Use Powerpc Optimized Builds of some software (mozilla has them):
Camino, Firefox, Thunderbird and Seamonkey PPC Builds (http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/)

I want to use freeware apps,where do I get them?

www.opensourcemac.org

sometimes you must search for old versions to use with 10.3/10.4, a good site for that is http://mac.oldapps.com/

You can find lots of abandonware in the Macintosh Garden (http://www.macintoshgarden.org/)

Recently user gavinstubbs09 (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=793422) created this website, with a lot of apps too: http://ppcarchive.dyniform.net/

I need an office suite,what can I use?

In terms of office suite,the recent LibreOffice (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/) has the latest version por PPC in all languages (for example,openoffice only had old versions for ppc-portuguese) and it is free.
There are more free office suites based on openoffice, I will cover them later.

If you want a paid one, the latest you can have are:
Office 2008 - for 10.4+
iWork 09 - for 10.4+

For more ancient systems grab a look at powerpcusers.com (http://powerpcusers.com/faq.html#apps)


I need spotify for ppc,where can I find it?

Here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1281477).

I would like to hear music online, what services/methods run fine on my powerpc?

If like me, spotify doesn't run on your country you have some options:

1 - hear online radios on their websites (most of them have flash sites so it will consume a lot of cpu)

2 - using specific sites like grooveshark (http://www.grooveshark.com) (I suggest the mobile site: html5.grooveshark.com) or ex.fm (http://www.ex.fm/)

3 - get some radios in .pls format and listen to them in a media player.For me iTunes uses a lot of cpu, so I use coreplayer.


Are there any databases of powerpc apps?

At least there are some blogs:
PPC Luddite (http://ppcluddite.blogspot.com/)
Mac Powerpc (http://macpowerpc.wordpress.com/)
[PowerPC] Software Verzeichnis
(http://appleforums.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=18) (German)


YouTube is slow as hell,any tips?

If you have the latest flashplayer,your best bet is to use Mactubes (http://macapps.sakura.ne.jp/mactubes/index_en.html) and play the videos through quicktime.

If your problem is with flash sites,your best bet is trying one of the browser above.
Don't expect miracles,flash runs poorly on macs,even on new macs the performance on macOs vs windows is very bad.

*There is a new tweak to make PPC Macs run latest flash see this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1286707).

*If you use Safari, there is an extension called YouTube5 which plays the HTML 5 version of the filehttp://www.verticalforest.com/2010/10/27/youtube5-version-2/

Some people tell that in certain sites if you use Safari and do this: Safari>Preferences...>Advanced and check the "Show Develop menu in
menu bar" and then go to the Develop menu and change your "User Agent"
to "Safari iOS 4.3.3 – iPad"

It will play through quicktime.

What browsers are available for PowerPc Macs?

tenfourfox browser (http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/) a firefox 24 port

Camino, Firefox and Seamonkey PPC optimized Builds (http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/)

More Firefox PPC optimized Builds (http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/)

OmniWeb Browser (http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omniweb/)

Roccat (http://runecats.com/roccatgeneral.html)

Shiira (https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/15032/shiira)

Demeter (http://www.hurrikenux.com/Demeter/)

Sunrise (http://www.sunrisebrowser.com/)

NagaraBrowser (https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/13518/nagarabrowser)

Stainless (http://www.stainlessapp.com/)

Webkit (http://code.google.com/p/leopard-webkit/downloads/list
) .

Radon. (http://download.cnet.com/Radon-Browser/3000-2356_4-179888.html)

I am tired of flashplayer, how to deal without it?

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1496149&highlight=flash

I have a low spec powerpc mac,the MacOS versions that it run wouldn't serve me well,what do I do?

Well, it's a fact that older versions of MacOS don't benefit of updates in some areas as java, browsers, etc...and some people just need those to make some necessary task.
As a low end spec mac will not run/run bad a up to date MacOS,the best bet is linux.
Go to the Linux part of this F.A.Q. to know more about linux.

I'm forced to run a MacOS X lower than 10.5, what can I do to backup it like Time Machine does?

There are several options you can use: carbon copy cloner (http://www.bombich.com/)r, superduper (http://www.bombich.com/), iBackup (http://www.grapefruit.ch/iBackup/) or even Tri-Backup (http://www.tri-edre.com/english/tribackup.html) (paid) to achieve similar results to the time machine..

I need java 1.6, what are my options?

If you are running 10.5, you can use soylatte (http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/#get) as suggested by
666sheep (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=388438) here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1095409).Otherwise guess there are no options.


Can I theme my tiger to look more modern?

Of course you do, read about it in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1215904).

What is the best video player for a powerpc?

Well there are lots of them, the most famous are VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) ,coreplayer (http://www.mobihand.com/130/homesoftware.asp) (paid but claimed to be one of the best performing media players for powerpc, you can use discount code: MBHD20), Miro (http://www.getmiro.com/), Movist (http://code.google.com/p/movist/) ,Perian (http://perian.org/), XBMC (http://xbmc.org) and MPlayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html), and
here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1129727&page=2) you can find a tweaked version of it claimed to be one of the best players for G4 (and maybe others too).

Do yourself a favor a take a good read on This article (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1296071) by our friend zen.state.
Other good threads to read are this one (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1268445&highlight=coreplayer) and this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1324172).


I have a phone that I want to connect/send sms/sync with my powerpc, how can I do it?

First of all, see in the manufacter support page if you phone has a suite for mac, or an isync plugin.
Some Nokias and most Sony Ericssons do.If not you can try googling about it (Sometimes people do isync plugins, and there are the paid Novamedia (http://www.novamedia.de/en/mac-isync-plugins.html) ones.
Other options (not only to sync but to send sms,make calls,etc) are this programs:

BluePhoneElite (http://mirasoftware.com/BPE2/) - you can download it and try for 14days, since it isn't available to buy, contact the owner or use google for the complete version.

MegaCellX (http://www.lucanasoft.com/en/megacell/megacell.html) - MegaCellX is shareware, so you can try the software before to buy it with some limitations. In order to eliminate the limitations it is necessary to buy it.

GSMRemote (http://www.traud.de/gsm/remote/) - This application is shareware (US $10). You can give it a time-unlimited test drive.

In the past I used bluephoneelite sucessfully with Nokia E51,E52 and others.And the others were the ones compatible with my black and white phones such as the siemens SL45i.

Android phones do airsyncing, read here: http://www.google.com/sync/mac.html
There's no need to buy app's or isync plugins.To send sms from the computer you can use AirDroid (http://airdroid.com/).


Well I'd like to play some games on powerpc, wich ones run on it?

Well you have a very good list here (http://guides.macrumors.com/Universal_Binary_Games) wich say if the games are powerpc,intel or both.
But do yourself a favor, search for "games" on powerpc forum,only titles, you will find some free/opensource games that will entertain you.
You can try macintosh garden, there are lots of games there.

I need to run windows,can I?

Natively no.
By virtualization,yes,using Q emulator (http://www.kju-app.org/) or Virtual PC 7 for Mac (http://www.microsoft.com/australia/office/mac/virtualpc7/default.aspx) (you must buy it on ebay or something).

I would like to have wikipedia offline on my ppc, how can I do it?

See this http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1284808
topic.

My computer is having problems, I don't have the original cds, how do I check the hardware?

Well, every Apple computer has an Apple Hardware Test (AHT) Cd that comes with it.
SInce you don't have it, download it here (http://www.info.apple.com/support/aht.html) , burn it to a cd, and run it.If possible in loops to test further.
If it doesn't report any error, it doesn't mean you don't have hardware problems, but it is unlikely that you have.
If you suspect that your problem is a faulty memory, use Rember (http://kelleycomputing.net/rember/) to test it.

Oh and remember, reseting PRAM and NVRAM as stated here (http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379) can solve a lot of problems.

After running this ones, running Onyx or disk utility to fix permissions or a fresh install is a good idea.

I want to put an SSD, what are the optimizations that can be made?
Read here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1545781&highlight=favourite)

skinniezinho
Feb 6, 2011, 09:23 AM
Rational Questions

I have PowerPc Mac,would it be wise to upgrade it?

Guess it all depends on a bunch of thing: wich mac it is, what it is going to be used for, what software/hardware do you have/need.

example - someone has maxed out (ram and hdd) powermac g4 gigabit ethernet and uses it for photo editing,and has all the software bought for it (and it won't work on intel),guess it is worth spending 200/300eur on a used cpu upgrade.
If the upgrade value is about 600eur,maybe it is better to switch to better powermac (g5 for example) (I guess that "pro" software costs a fortune).


I have to buy a desktop Mac,should it be and intel or a powerpc?

example 2 - someone has about 800eur to blow on a mac.The use is going to be surfing web,and ocasional photo editing,what is better?new mac mini or good powermac g5 quad?
Guess the mac mini will be a better choice,adobe will not upgrade flash for powerpcs,and with the mac mini you have a whole possibilities of new software.

I have a powerpc computer, what do I do with it?
For god sake, use search!
Here you are, millions of thread with millions of suggestions for your old,not so old, trashed, not trashed, given, not give POWERPC Mac:

http://forums.macrumors.com/search.php?searchid=25217654

I have a powerpc computer, what upgrades should I do?
If you are too lazy to read the whole first part of this F.A.Q. or you still have doubts on wich upgrade you should go, use search:
http://forums.macrumors.com/search.php?searchid=25217671


Linux Questions

I've heard that linux is only for CLI type guys and that you must spend about a whole day to set it up, is that true?

Of Course not.There are lot of things you can do using CLI/Terminal, it is one of the most powerful "apps" in an operative system, but these days is linux can be very user friendly (in distros like ubuntu,lubuntu,mintppc e somehow debian too).
Setting up linux nowadays can be somehow easy, there are lots of tutorials, lots of info, but nothing better than to try.

Why should I try it?

If you don't want, don't try it.Don't blame it if you don't want to spend a little time searching and trying.
But if you want to use powerpc securelly and have new versions of apps, linux is your only bet.
There are even apps that don't have mac powerpc version but do have linux powerpc version (texlive,librecad ,etc)

Where should I search for simple and forwarding info about installing and living with linux?

I suggest you to read this two blogs:

http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.pt/
http://ppcluddite.blogspot.pt/

There lot's of info on google, and specially on the distros websites, although this blogs have more simple info.

What distro should I choose?

Here you have some of the active ppc distros:
http://linux.wikia.com/wiki/Category:PowerPC_distros

http://blog.finnix.org/2011/08/14/powerpc-distributions/

Although for a matter of user support I guess the best bet is a debian based distro (ubuntu,lubuntu, or even mintppc) or debian itself.
But go ahead try it all =) They are free!

In terms of requirements/footprint, here are some numbers of different Desktop Enviromnents in Debian ppc:
http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.pt/2013/06/debian-unrelenting-quality.html

With this you can "know" that for example Lubuntu (LXDE based) will eat less memory than Ubuntu (Gnome based).

OMG OMG I installed the X Linux Distro and my Sound/Wifi doesn't work,what now?Damn stupid linux!

Linux is not macOS, it is made for lot's of hardware, so sometimes things require a bit of work.
Sometimes you only need to install "non-free" packages, that have firmware for wifi cards,etc
For example for powermac g5 sound:
http://bobjwoolsey.wikidot.com/getting-sound-working-linux-ppc

for wifi:
You have to install bcm43xx firmware http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx

more resources here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ

http://www.mintppc.org/content/user-experiences



PS: sorry for my english.If someone has more/correct info,just tell and I will add/correct it here.
Hope it helps you!
http://www.goodlogo.com/images/cases/apple/POWERPC2.gif

pubjoe
Feb 7, 2011, 02:33 PM
Great guide. Thanks.

Can I run MacOS 10.6 Snow Leopard on my powerpc mac?and the upcoming Lion?

Short Answer: No
Long ANswer: There is a guy on internet saying and posting a video about that.the description is here along with video links.
It's pretty clear that guy is lying. He's just modified the 'about this mac' identity and changed the desktop wallpaper.

- He claims his 400mhz G4 is emulating a dual-core processor and an nvidia gpu with 'Q'. :rolleyes:
- In the videos, the frontrow gui is much faster than would be possible on his G4.
- He made a post a couple of months before about modifying 'about this mac'.
- His videos are suspiciously void of any proof whatsoever.
- But most of all, you can tell he's lying by his strange attitude in his posts.

It's impossible to run Snow leopard on a powerPC and even if it was possible to do so through emulation, it would be completely impractical. No offence, but I think you may as well remove your reference to that guy. It's only giving him attention.

skinniezinho
Feb 7, 2011, 05:39 PM
Great guide. Thanks.


It's pretty clear that guy is lying. He's just modified the 'about this mac' identity and changed the desktop wallpaper.

- He claims his 400mhz G4 is emulating a dual-core processor and an nvidia gpu with 'Q'. :rolleyes:
- In the videos, the frontrow gui is much faster than would be possible on his G4.
- He made a post a couple of months before about modifying 'about this mac'.
- His videos are suspiciously void of any proof whatsoever.
- But most of all, you can tell he's lying by his strange attitude in his posts.

It's impossible to run Snow leopard on a powerPC and even if it was possible to do so through emulation, it would be completely impractical. No offence, but I think you may as well remove your reference to that guy. It's only giving him attention.

Thanks :)
I thought that thw whole thing could be made up,but I've already seen many strange things in the "pc" world (like an Athlon XP with an "evil" bios modded bios beating an Athlon 64 in benchmarks) so it wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing worked.
But I removed it already :D

skinniezinho
Feb 10, 2011, 06:21 PM
Well Guys,I updated the "browser" part,added OmniWeb Browser and the "PCI Wifi" part, now I cant tell for sure that the Conceptronic C300Ri V3 Card works with powerpc macs with the ralink RT2860 Driver :) Wifi 300N to my powermac :)

skinniezinho
Feb 16, 2011, 06:53 AM
Backup options for MacOS X systems older than 10.5 added.
Flash links updated.
Long live Powerpc ;)

iThinkergoiMac
Feb 16, 2011, 03:53 PM
I have to buy a desktop Mac,should it be and intel or a powerpc?

example 2 - someone has about 800eur to blow on a mac.The use is going to be surfing web,and ocasional photo editing,what is better?new mac mini or good powermac g5 quad?
Guess the mac mini will be a better choice,adobe will not upgrade flash for powerpcs,and with the mac mini you have a whole possibilities of new software.

Even apart from this, the Mini is faster for everything and uses far less power.

Rodus
Feb 16, 2011, 03:59 PM
For highly multithreaded stuff the quad G5 will out run an Intel Mini, but it is a dead end architecture and has seriously bad coolant issues.

rtrt
Feb 16, 2011, 05:35 PM
thanks for taking the time to write this :cool:

some was familiar, but some was definitely new.

i might look at the linux side later this year.

skinniezinho
Feb 16, 2011, 07:49 PM
Even apart from this, the Mini is faster for everything and uses far less power.

For highly multithreaded stuff the quad G5 will out run an Intel Mini, but it is a dead end architecture and has seriously bad coolant issues.

I can't enter the "wich is best" because I have none to test, but I believe both are right.

thanks for taking the time to write this :cool:

some was familiar, but some was definitely new.

i might look at the linux side later this year.

Thanks.I am an huge linux fan, and tried to run it (ubuntu and debian) on my powermac, but couldn't succeed, although there are lots of tutorials and positive experiences from people with powerpc macs ;)

Cox Orange
Feb 23, 2011, 11:56 AM
you can easily overcome the 128GB limit, by installing an OS higher than 10.2.8, because it is an OpenFirmware related issue, not the controller (as I thought a long time, too).

If you need OS 9, then you have to use OS 9.2.2 and make partitions not higher than 200GB.

This is officially said by apple
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2544?viewlocale=en_US

Justinz
Mar 1, 2011, 08:51 PM
Thanks this is very useful..

Cox Orange
Mar 2, 2011, 10:57 AM
WARNING!

I have to apologize. I got this wrong:

though one can easily (mis-)understand it the way I understood it, member zen.state recently told me, that I interpreted the text wrong. It seems that apple wants to say, that if you have a Mac without the 128GB limit, you have to install 10.2.8 or higher or 9.2.2 (with 200GB partitions)!

Sorry, for spreading sh**

skinniezinho
Mar 13, 2011, 12:01 PM
you can easily overcome the 128GB limit, by installing an OS higher than 10.2.8, because it is an OpenFirmware related issue, not the controller (as I thought a long time, too).

If you need OS 9, then you have to use OS 9.2.2 and make partitions not higher than 200GB.

This is officially said by apple
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2544?viewlocale=en_US

WARNING!

I have to apologize. I got this wrong:

though one can easily (mis-)understand it the way I understood it, member zen.state recently told me, that I interpreted the text wrong. It seems that apple wants to say, that if you have a Mac without the 128GB limit, you have to install 10.2.8 or higher or 9.2.2 (with 200GB partitions)!

Sorry, for spreading sh**

No problem :D people are always learning :)
Hope this FAQ becames usefull for powerpc users..any info that you have just say and I'll add it :D

Riky.loebis
Mar 16, 2011, 06:51 AM
how about webcam?

may, i give list webcam (except iSight) can support in Mac..
a. http://www.mac-compatible-web-cam.com/
b. http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6471/related/1

and i give link for old mac app...
a. (http://mac.oldapps.com/)

sory if you can't understand my english :) cause my english is not good but i just want share about power pc.:cool:

app working good in my ibook clamshell dan imac sunflower
thank's

skinniezinho
Mar 16, 2011, 06:55 AM
how about webcam?

may, i give list webcam (except iSight) can support in Mac..
a. http://www.mac-compatible-web-cam.com/
b. http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6471/related/1

and i give link for old mac app...
a. (http://mac.oldapps.com/)

sory if you can't understand my english :) cause my english is not good but i just want share about power pc.:cool:

app working good in my ibook clamshell dan imac sunflower
thank's

Thanks for the contribution,later I'll add it..
Other option is to use the Macam Driver (http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/)

Riky.loebis
Mar 16, 2011, 11:44 AM
Thanks for the contribution,later I'll add it..
Other option is to use the Macam Driver (http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/)

you're welcome,,,
pleased to meet you
i'm happy to help someone,
:)

raysfan81
Mar 16, 2011, 07:15 PM
Can't we get this pinned to the top under the "mac guides" section? That would be a great idea. :D

Oh and BTW the links on the soylatte website are either down right now or broken so I don't know if you want to leave that in here until you can check later.

skinniezinho
Mar 18, 2011, 05:57 PM
Can't we get this pinned to the top under the "mac guides" section? That would be a great idea. :D

Oh and BTW the links on the soylatte website are either down right now or broken so I don't know if you want to leave that in here until you can check later.

Even if it was sticky here it would be very cool...I've already pm a mod,but no sucess...
The soylatter website seems to be fine..
Thanks :D

skinniezinho
May 31, 2011, 07:56 PM
still no sticky :( wouldn't you guys think this info should be sticky?

burnout8488
May 31, 2011, 09:34 PM
We desperately need a sticky with PPC information to avoid a lot of the redundant "Can I put snow leopard on my G4?" posts.

It's got my vote for sure. If not, someone should bump it once a week.

chrismacguy
Jun 1, 2011, 05:52 AM
We desperately need a sticky with PPC information to avoid a lot of the redundant "Can I put snow leopard on my G4?" posts.

It's got my vote for sure. If not, someone should bump it once a week.

And the inevitable "Leopard on a G3?" and "Can I put an Intel CPU in my PowerBook/PowerMac G3?" posts as well - would probably be a lot more helpful than us all answering the questions so often.

skinniezinho
Jun 17, 2011, 03:38 PM
Guess mods don't want this to be sticky, and prefer lots of posts with the same questions...

stroked
Jun 17, 2011, 03:47 PM
maybe there are no mods for the PPC forum

uller6
Jun 17, 2011, 10:13 PM
Thanks so much for posting this...I was looking for a good Bluetooth card to put in my powermac so I could go wireless keyboard and mouse...

VanneDC
Jun 18, 2011, 03:56 PM
Yes mods sticky pls....

Riky.loebis
Jun 18, 2011, 10:39 PM
Yes mods sticky pls....

maybe there are no mods for the PPC forum

yes pls sticky mods,,
that's important for newbie like me,,
:apple:

nickn
Jun 18, 2011, 10:50 PM
I have a YouTube suggestion besides using mactubes to add to the list if you want to. To get low CPU usage while watching YouTube you need to use safari and have the develop menu enabled. You enable this by going to safari preferences and then the advanced tab and then check Show Develop menu in menu bar. Then open the develop menu on the top right of the screen and click user agent, then Safari iOS 3.2.2 - iPad. When you open YouTube, videos will play in QuickTime on the YouTube page and you will still be able to see comments and have a nice browsing experience. Videos should play with a very good frame rate and there should be little video stuttering. This works very good on my 1.33ghz iBook G4.

uller6
Jun 19, 2011, 10:21 AM
I have a YouTube suggestion besides using mactubes to add to the list if you want to. To get low CPU usage while watching YouTube you need to use safari and have the develop menu enabled. You enable this by going to safari preferences and then the advanced tab and then check Show Develop menu in menu bar. Then open the develop menu on the top right of the screen and click user agent, then Safari iOS 3.2.2 - iPad. When you open YouTube, videos will play in QuickTime on the YouTube page and you will still be able to see comments and have a nice browsing experience. Videos should play with a very good frame rate and there should be little video stuttering. This works very good on my 1.33ghz iBook G4.

Hey, thanks for the tip Nick. I'll have to give this a try...

adcx64
Jun 19, 2011, 08:33 PM
This is great.

skinniezinho
Jul 14, 2011, 08:02 PM
another bump to make sure that PPC are still alive :D

Nameci
Jul 14, 2011, 08:09 PM
Yes it is...

iThinkergoiMac
Jul 14, 2011, 10:10 PM
I have a YouTube suggestion besides using mactubes to add to the list if you want to. To get low CPU usage while watching YouTube you need to use safari and have the develop menu enabled. You enable this by going to safari preferences and then the advanced tab and then check Show Develop menu in menu bar. Then open the develop menu on the top right of the screen and click user agent, then Safari iOS 3.2.2 - iPad. When you open YouTube, videos will play in QuickTime on the YouTube page and you will still be able to see comments and have a nice browsing experience. Videos should play with a very good frame rate and there should be little video stuttering. This works very good on my 1.33ghz iBook G4.

Or you could go to youtube.com/html5 and join the beta. Then all the other websites you go to won't present themselves as mobile websites. This works the same way without the convoluted messing around with user agents.

Cox Orange
Jul 27, 2011, 10:01 AM
pushing it up for i-Toy people, that ask for Lion to run on PowerPCs and won't find it, because they do not know how to search.

simsaladimbamba
Jul 27, 2011, 10:02 AM
pushing it up for i-Toy people, that ask for Lion to run on PowerPCs and won't find it, because they do not know how to search.

Then they won't look in here either.

Cox Orange
Jul 28, 2011, 08:01 AM
Then they won't look in here either.

I hoped, if it was closer to the top, they might find it by chance, when opening the subforum :)

simsaladimbamba
Jul 28, 2011, 08:06 AM
I hoped, if it was closer to the top, they might find it by chance, when opening the subforum :)

Bumping for no real reason is not really allowed.
When someone posts some "stupid" question like the ones you often seem to see, just post a link to this FAQ. That's how I do it.

Cox Orange
Aug 8, 2011, 06:57 PM
Since the Apple "available firmware updates"-list does not feature all, I would like to keep some that are not listed here, as some kind of a reminder

The Apple "available firmware updates"-list http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1395

SuperDrive issue: http://support.apple.com/downloads/Power_Mac_SuperDrive_Update_1_0 (System Requirements: Mac OS X 10.1 or later * Power Mac G4 (Digital Audio), Power Mac G4 (Quicksilver), or Power Mac G4 (Quicksilver 2002) with an internal Apple SuperDrive)

NVIDIA Graphics Card firmware for GeForce2 MX, GeForce2 MX TwinView, GeForce3 oder GeForce4 MX: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL663?viewlocale=en_US (required when running 10.2 or later)

MDD Fans "wind tunnel": http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1175?viewlocale=en_US


That could be helpful as well http://www.apple.com/de/support/powermac/g4/

Imixmuan
Aug 13, 2011, 09:14 AM
Excellent thread, lots of killer info here. OP mentions Ubuntu PPC, which I found buggy and a poor performer on my ibook. There is also MintPPC, a Debian installation with a LXDE desktop GUI on top of. Its lightweight, fast as hell on a decent G4. Its not for every user, install is commandline, no flash of course, but the developer has backported miniTube for some youtube playback capability. He's also backported Iceweasel 5 and is working on a Linux Mint 11 version now. Its by far (and I mean by far) the best PPC linux I've ever seen.

http://www.mintppc.org

check it out. User experiences and "I got MintPPC working on a" in the forum are particulary helpful for xorg files and the like.

MAC MAN JW
Aug 13, 2011, 03:04 PM
Excellent thread, lots of killer info here. OP mentions Ubuntu PPC, which I found buggy and a poor performer on my ibook. There is also MintPPC, a Debian installation with a LXDE desktop GUI on top of. Its lightweight, fast as hell on a decent G4. Its not for every user, install is commandline, no flash of course, but the developer has backported miniTube for some youtube playback capability. He's also backported Iceweasel 5 and is working on a Linux Mint 11 version now. Its by far (and I mean by far) the best PPC linux I've ever seen.

http://www.mintppc.org

check it out. User experiences and "I got MintPPC working on a" in the forum are particulary helpful for xorg files and the like.

Looks like that might be the last version of mintppc if he does not get a new powermac:(


From:www.mintppc.org


"Hi all,

I demolished my third PowerBook Pismo two days ago as I had to swap disks too many times (broken hard disk controller?). I don't have any PPC machine left to continue my work on MintPPC. I am looking for some volunteers to pay a donation to me so I can buy a seond hand G4 desktop. I am happy with 100 euro in total. Once I have the money I can buy the new machine and continue working on MintPPC 11.

Thanks for your understanding.

Jeroen Diederen aka Linuxopjemac"

zen.state
Aug 13, 2011, 04:16 PM
Unless you're a hardcore Linux person then any older OS X will be much better for the average user. I have used PowerPC Linux, Yellow Dog Linux, Black Dog Linux and Ubuntu (many versions from 6-10) and none of them compare to OS X.

Virtually all people buy Macs to run Mac OS.

AdrianK
Aug 13, 2011, 06:37 PM
Unless you're a hardcore Linux person then any older OS X will be much better for the average user. I have used PowerPC Linux, Yellow Dog Linux, Black Dog Linux and Ubuntu (many versions from 6-10) and none of them compare to OS X.

Virtually all people buy Macs to run Mac OS.

Wholeheartedly agreed. I'd much rather use Tiger than any current linux distro.

skinniezinho
Sep 16, 2011, 03:14 PM
bump =)

Marcush1286
Sep 17, 2011, 08:53 AM
Zen,

I have Yellow Dog Linux, but how do I get the G5's wireless card to be recognized? Also, the sound does not seem to work either.. Do I have to download from YDL's website the drivers for the airport card and sound chip on the G5 Quad to get them to work? I am not sure why they advertise YDL to work out of the box with all of Apple's hardware in the G5 Quad. It plainly does not support everything. I did notice that the fans were quiet, very quiet upon boot up into YDL, but since I can't use my airport wireless and or sound, its become useless and there I went back to using Leopard again.


Unless you're a hardcore Linux person then any older OS X will be much better for the average user. I have used PowerPC Linux, Yellow Dog Linux, Black Dog Linux and Ubuntu (many versions from 6-10) and none of them compare to OS X.

Virtually all people buy Macs to run Mac OS.

skinniezinho
Nov 13, 2011, 10:25 AM
Zen,

I have Yellow Dog Linux, but how do I get the G5's wireless card to be recognized? Also, the sound does not seem to work either.. Do I have to download from YDL's website the drivers for the airport card and sound chip on the G5 Quad to get them to work? I am not sure why they advertise YDL to work out of the box with all of Apple's hardware in the G5 Quad. It plainly does not support everything. I did notice that the fans were quiet, very quiet upon boot up into YDL, but since I can't use my airport wireless and or sound, its become useless and there I went back to using Leopard again.

I never used YDL, but in other distros if you connect your machine to wired internet it may download the necessary packages and enable it for you.

adcx64
Nov 13, 2011, 11:01 AM
Zen,

I have Yellow Dog Linux, but how do I get the G5's wireless card to be recognized? Also, the sound does not seem to work either.. Do I have to download from YDL's website the drivers for the airport card and sound chip on the G5 Quad to get them to work? I am not sure why they advertise YDL to work out of the box with all of Apple's hardware in the G5 Quad. It plainly does not support everything. I did notice that the fans were quiet, very quiet upon boot up into YDL, but since I can't use my airport wireless and or sound, its become useless and there I went back to using Leopard again.

If you do not understand how YDL works, you shouldn't run it. :) believe me, Leopard will run 10x better as its optimized for the hardware!

skinniezinho
Dec 2, 2011, 06:56 PM
Links added for app databases and some useful topics on macrumors.
Links added for atx power supply mod on G4's.

mackasabian
Dec 3, 2011, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the mention!
http://macpowerpc.wordpress.com
http://twitter.com/macpowerpc
:apple:

Software Questions


What is the latest MacOS that my mac can run?

This info is available on everymac.com or mactracker.
For those who like to "hack", and get a newer version of MacOS on it's unsupported mac, there is Leopard Assist (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26562/leopardassist/) and xpostfacto (http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/).
Other option is installing the MacOS X version you want in a supported machine,then use carbon copy cloner to clone it to the machine HDD.
I did this for my powermac g4..using my macbook!it worked fine!See more about this here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1112834).


Can I run MacOS 10.6 Snow Leopard on my powerpc mac?and the upcoming Lion?

Short Answer: No

Are there any software tweaks that I can make to make my experience better?

Before installing MacOS: install only the languages that you need,along with extras/drivers.

After installling MacOS: update it, uninstall the current version of flash with the uninstaller available here (http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/865/cpsid_86551.html#ostype=m,prob1=uninst,) and install the latest version of flash available wich is 10.1.102.64 available here (http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html).

After that the only tweaks that I am aware of, are:

*Disabling the dashboard:Using Dashboard disabler (http://www.natal.be/index.php/?p=6) or by hand using this tutorial (http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20050723123302403).

*Disabling the spotlight:using this tutorial (http://osxdaily.com/2007/03/22/how-to-completely-disable-spotlight/).

*Use the app / (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/20404TrimTheFat to remove the intel code from UB apps

*Use Powerpc Optimized Builds of some software (mozilla has them):
Camino, Firefox, Thunderbird and Seamonkey PPC Builds (http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/)
More Firefox PPC Builds (http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/)
Tenfourfox - firefox 4 port to Powerpc Macs (http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/)

I want to use freeware apps,where do I get them?

www.opensourcemac.org

sometimes you must search for old versions to use with 10.3/10.4.
In terms of office suite,the recent LibreOffice (http://www.libreoffice.org/download/) has the latest version por PPC in all languages (for example,openoffice only had old versions for ppc-portuguese).

You can find lots of abandonware in the Macintosh Garden (http://www.macintoshgarden.org/)

I need to run windows,can I?

Natively no.
By virtualization,yes,using Q emulator (http://www.kju-app.org/) or Virtual PC 7 for Mac (http://www.microsoft.com/australia/office/mac/virtualpc7/default.aspx) (you must buy it on ebay or something).

Youtube is slow as hell,any tips?

If you have the latest flashplayer,your best bet is to use Mactubes (http://macapps.web.infoseek.co.jp/mactubes/index_en.html) and play the videos through quicktime.

If your problem is with flash sites,your best bet is trying tenfourfox browser (http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/) or OmniWeb Browser (http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omniweb/) (I find it very lightweight)
Don't expect miracles,flash runs poorly on macs,even on new macs the performance on macOs vs windows is very bad.


I have a low spec powerpc mac,the MacOS versions that it run wouldn't serve me well,what do I do?

Well, it's a fact that older versions of MacOS don't benefit of updates in some areas as java, browsers, etc...and some people just need those to make some necessary task.
As a low end spec mac will not run/run bad a up to date MacOS,the best bet is linux.
Ubuntu has now a release (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/) for powerpc,and is very well documented.
You may need to mess with xorg.conf,but there are some pre-made here (http://mac.linux.be/content/xorgconf-files).
Debian always had powerpc releases,and there are more options,but the most user friendly is for sure ubuntu.

I'm forced to run a MacOS X lower than 10.5, what can I do to backup it like Time Machine does?

There are several options you can use: carbon copy cloner (http://www.bombich.com/)r, superduper (http://www.bombich.com/), iBackup (http://www.grapefruit.ch/iBackup/) or even Tri-Backup (http://www.tri-edre.com/english/tribackup.html) (paid) to achieve similar results to the time machine..

I need java 1.6, what are my options?

If you are running 10.5, you can use soylatte (http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/#get) as suggested by
666sheep (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=388438) here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1095409).Otherwise guess there are no options.

I need spotify for ppc,where can I find it?

Here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1281477).

Are there any databases of powerpc apps?

At least there are some blogs:
PPC Luddite (http://ppcluddite.blogspot.com/)
Mac Powerpc (http://macpowerpc.wordpress.com/)
[PowerPC] Software Verzeichnis
(http://appleforums.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=18) (German)

Can I theme my tiger to look more modern?

Of course you do, read about it in this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1215904).

skinniezinho
Dec 3, 2011, 03:06 PM
Thanks for the mention!
http://macpowerpc.wordpress.com
http://twitter.com/macpowerpc
:apple:

Update : software for phones.
If you want you can put it on your blog too.

edit:
*AHT Links and NVRAM/PRAM Reseting procedure.
*battery monitoring
*temperature monitoring
*Video players for ppc

mackasabian
Dec 3, 2011, 04:16 PM
Update : software for phones.
If you want you can put it on your blog too.

Thanks you : http://macpowerpc.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/software-for-phones-powerpc/
:apple:

skinniezinho
Dec 3, 2011, 04:22 PM
Thanks you : http://macpowerpc.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/software-for-phones-powerpc/
:apple:

It's ok =)
Now, rational questions updated with answer for the typical:

*What should I do with...?
*What upgrades should I..?

vohdoun
Dec 3, 2011, 09:21 PM
I need java 1.6, what are my options?

If you are running 10.5, you can use soylatte (http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/#get) as suggested by
666sheep (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=388438) here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1095409).Otherwise guess there are no options.


Has anyone done this? and do you have to faff about like in the video...

skinniezinho
Dec 7, 2011, 03:32 AM
Has anyone done this? and do you have to faff about like in the video...

Sorry, I don't have 10.5 on my powermac for now.

The youtube/flash section is updated with "the tweak".

mackasabian
Dec 7, 2011, 12:42 PM
I know what is like, I have the same problem. http://macpowerpc.wordpress.com :apple:

Looks like that might be the last version of mintppc if he does not get a new powermac:(


From:www.mintppc.org


"Hi all,

I demolished my third PowerBook Pismo two days ago as I had to swap disks too many times (broken hard disk controller?). I don't have any PPC machine left to continue my work on MintPPC. I am looking for some volunteers to pay a donation to me so I can buy a seond hand G4 desktop. I am happy with 100 euro in total. Once I have the money I can buy the new machine and continue working on MintPPC 11.

Thanks for your understanding.

Jeroen Diederen aka Linuxopjemac"

zen.state
Dec 7, 2011, 12:59 PM
I know what is like, I have the same problem. http://macpowerpc.wordpress.com :apple:

The MintPPC developer got enough to buy an MDD if you actually read the update he made in the same blog post.

I see in your sig now that you have an Intel iMac. Not sure why you need PowerPC hardware to make a blog about them. I and others here have vast experience we can add about apps.

skinniezinho
Dec 7, 2011, 01:17 PM
I and others here have vast experience we can add about apps.

So, share it =) Let's center the info for powerpc machines =)
When I have time I guess I'll make a section about apps collected from everywhere.
This weekend I made a "App backup" of about 3Gb , with powerpc only Apps, separed by kind and those for panther only and leopard only (most only required tiger).
The best part, most of them were open source and/or free =)
If anyone want to help me to put this FAQ in the "Macrumors Guidelines" it would be awesome, because I can't understand how to do it.

Imixmuan
Dec 7, 2011, 01:23 PM
The MintPPC developer got enough to buy an MDD if you actually read the update he made in the same blog post.


...someone in the US just sent him an imac G5 out of the blue. He says MintPPC 11 is smoking fast on it.

zen.state
Dec 7, 2011, 01:32 PM
So, share it =) Let's center the info for powerpc machines =)
When I have time I guess I'll make a section about apps collected from everywhere.
This weekend I made a "App backup" of about 3Gb , with powerpc only Apps, separed by kind and those for panther only and leopard only (most only required tiger).
The best part, most of them were open source and/or free =)
If anyone want to help me to put this FAQ in the "Macrumors Guidelines" it would be awesome, because I can't understand how to do it.

We need to evolve past a simple blog. A full on site dedicated to the longevity and usability of PowerPC hardware. It could also have a vast troubleshooting area where we can send people from here for help.

Good hosting is maybe $10-20 a month now for a typical modest traffic site. If we can get 10-20 of us then it's only $1 a month each and a bit of our time.

adcx64
Dec 7, 2011, 02:23 PM
I'm all for a PowerPC collaboration site. If we decide to do it, I could help with the hosting, and I'm fluent in HTML. I'd love to do this.

mackasabian
Dec 7, 2011, 02:44 PM
Glad to hear that he worked out. About me I could use even an windows to do any research, but it's fail, because some apps says is available for PowerPC and actually it's not and sometimes few apps it doesn't say anything and at the end works fine with PowerPC. I can not only post names, I need to make sure that they will work it, but I guess it's doesn't change anything because I started thinking that PowerPC it doesn't matter anymore. I just wasted my time taking my sister's PowerBook to install an unknown plugin to watch facebook's video, and I'm just finishing to post. I have an iMac intel running Lion, my iBook die so what should I care about apps for Mac PowerPC? People laugh about PPC, but I do it because I like it. :apple:

The MintPPC developer got enough to buy an MDD if you actually read the update he made in the same blog post.

I see in your sig now that you have an Intel iMac. Not sure why you need PowerPC hardware to make a blog about them. I and others here have vast experience we can add about apps.

skinniezinho
Dec 7, 2011, 02:49 PM
glad to hear that he worked out. About me I could use even an windows to do any research, but it's fail, because some apps says is available for PowerPC and actually it's not and sometimes few apps it doesn't say anything and at the end works fine with PowerPC. I can not only post names, I need to make sure that they will work, but I guess it's doesn't change anything because I started thinking that PowerPC it dosn't matter anymore. :apple:

mackasabian as I told you, your iBook is going to be fine.Powerpc doesn't matter in the "world", but for us it matters.


zen.state it's a very good idea, but we must get some people to arrange money for the website :S

SmurfBoxMasta
Dec 7, 2011, 03:38 PM
skinnie: KEWL graphics :D



[QUOTE=skinniezinho;11858234]

Be sure that the ram that you buy is low density.

Ram can be bought on several places, but the best bet is crucial (http://www.crucial.com/mac/index.aspx) (for new ram).
For used ram/lower prices check ebay, there are many people selling ram pulled out from working macs, or even oem ram proved to work in mac (low density ram, check the feedback of the seller. Remember, high density RAM is cheaper than low density ram, so if a user is selling mac ram at higher prices, maybe he is not fooling you).

*** For the G3/G4's, you MUST get low density ram, period ! Also check out ramseeker.com for price & vendor listings to compare your options. Be SURE to check shipping charges (some places sell the ram cheap then wanna rip you off with mega-monster shipping charges. Also check for a lifetime warranty AND a no-questions-asked PREPAID return policy for defective sticks.****



My mac only has a CD-Reader, I want to put a DVD, where do I buy them?

In this part I don't have sure, but I guess you use any ordinary pc optical drive, if you then use patchburn (http://www.patchburn.de/).
If you don't want to risk, search for mac compatible drives.

** For the G3/G4's, Sony & Pioneer DVD drives are by far the most compatible & natively supported in OS X, although there are other brands that may work also.**



Can I upgrade my processor?

Laptops - I don't have great info about this, but I guess only the powerbook g3 allowed processor upgrades (check OWC site, Sonnet, Gigadesign, Lowendmac.com for more info) although be aware that a faster processor will probably produce more heat and consume more battery.
*Under construction*

Desktops - g3's, g4's do have processor upgrades,either swap from newer machines to older (for example, the dual g4 500MHz fit in some Sawtooth (it has to have a Uni-N revision 7 chipset).
CPU Upgrades Reviews Here (http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/cpucards.html)
OWC has a high range of cpu upgrades,although you can find it on ebay too.


**Most of the G3 chips can be overclocked by 50-200mhz simply by moving a jumper on the motherboard. See OWC's website guide for more info***

Goftrey
Dec 7, 2011, 04:00 PM
We need to evolve past a simple blog. A full on site dedicated to the longevity and usability of PowerPC hardware. It could also have a vast troubleshooting area where we can send people from here for help.

Good hosting is maybe $10-20 a month now for a typical modest traffic site. If we can get 10-20 of us then it's only $1 a month each and a bit of our time.

I could do some graphics/design etc.

I'm currently at A* in my course for this year... ;)

And I'd be plenty happy to donate money to a website, I think it's a great idea.

chrismacguy
Dec 7, 2011, 04:15 PM
Ill happily contribute time and also web expertise to this, as well as money :D (And hanging around to add content to this site).

Nameci
Dec 7, 2011, 05:24 PM
Get it going and you can rely on me for the much needed monetary contribution. I have gone tired of the repetitive topic sometimes.

adcx64
Dec 7, 2011, 05:26 PM
Pm sent to Nameci, Chrismacguy and Zen. I really want to make this happen.

ThunderSnake
Dec 7, 2011, 05:38 PM
I'm in for money, time, and whatever limited hardware knowledge that I might have. Great idea, Zen (May I call you Zen? Typing "zen.state" sometimes feels awkward because it's like putting a period in the middle of a sentence. I don't always know how to handle that type of situation).

zen.state
Dec 7, 2011, 06:16 PM
I'm in for money, time, and whatever limited hardware knowledge that I might have. Great idea, Zen (May I call you Zen? Typing "zen.state" sometimes feels awkward because it's like putting a period in the middle of a sentence. I don't always know how to handle that type of situation).

Just zen is fine. :)

Guys like yourself, chrismacguy, skinniezinho and Nameci are for sure some of the more knowledgeable PowerPC users around here and your contributions can only help. The money we need is very little. The main thing we need is content and good design.

Although I have many skills to offer my web design is very rusty. Last time I did it at any decent frequency was about 1998 :)

adcx64
Dec 7, 2011, 06:19 PM
Welcome the the group thunder snake :p

Haha I have some pretty good web skills so it shouldn't be a problem.

zen.state
Dec 7, 2011, 06:38 PM
Welcome the the group thunder snake :p

Haha I have some pretty good web skills so it shouldn't be a problem.

My late 90's web design skills are still reasonably sharp but most of that type of design has no business on any site these days. I got really heavy into hardware work around 98 and left web stuff behind so I'm rather out of date. Everyone was doing it then. That was right in the middle of the whole dot com era.

My strength will be content (writing articles/guides), 18 years of hardware experience and an impeccably anal ability to be very organized. haha

Nameci
Dec 7, 2011, 06:47 PM
I have no web design skills, all i know is fix hardwares.

adcx64
Dec 7, 2011, 06:50 PM
I'm going to start making a rough copy template of what the site could maybe look like. I should have it done in a few days. I'll make a thread then.

Also, being a PowerPC site, there will be no flash in favor of HTML5.

ThunderSnake
Dec 7, 2011, 07:04 PM
I'm a little rusty too, but I could probably back up adcx64 on HTML. I imagine that it'd be a content-driven site, so it should be that difficult.

----------

I'm going to start making a rough copy template of what the site could maybe look like. I should have it done in a few days. I'll make a thread then.

Maybe we should start a Google group for discussion and to hash out ideas?

Also, being a PowerPC site, there will be no flash in favor of HTML5.

Oh, this is sounding better and better by the minute.

adcx64
Dec 7, 2011, 07:10 PM
I'm a little rusty too, but I could probably back up adcx64 on HTML. I imagine that it'd be a content-driven site, so it should be that difficult.

----------



Maybe we should start a Google group for discussion and to hash out ideas?



Oh, this is sounding better and better by the minute.

Thanks for the idea. Please PM me with your email addresses so I can add you to the google group I just made.

vohdoun
Dec 8, 2011, 03:40 AM
Sorry, I don't have 10.5 on my powermac for now.

The youtube/flash section is updated with "the tweak".

It's Java 1.6, not Youtube/Flash related.

skinniezinho
Dec 8, 2011, 04:33 AM
It's Java 1.6, not Youtube/Flash related.

two separated things.
The first is the answer to vohdoun.
The second is the update that I made.


SmurfBoxMasta today I will edit the topic with the info you gave me.

For others, let's go!
I don't know very much about powerpc macs, I just had an ibook g3 about 3 years ago and now I have a powermac g4.
About hardware, let's say I'm training to be an apple certified technician (but it doesn't matter here).

skinniezinho
Dec 17, 2011, 06:18 AM
Youtube5 added
wikipedia offline added

skinniezinho
Dec 29, 2011, 05:42 AM
Video on PowerPC - Part 1: Playback on G4/G5 Article added on Videoplayers Section =)

Cox Orange
Jan 18, 2012, 02:43 PM
Found that link, which I think could be helpful for others, too.

It gives data about the fans used in several PowerMacs.
http://infohost.nmt.edu/~holstien/g4info.html


PS: I'd like to add an info I got from Sonnet regarding the fans they used with their Encore/ST CPU-Upgrades.
"Has a rating of 13.3 CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute) [that is 22,6qm/h]. It is a 12V fan, 5500 RPM. The same fan is used on the Duet."

skinniezinho
Feb 23, 2012, 02:08 PM
Found that link, which I think could be helpful for others, too.

It gives data about the fans used in several PowerMacs.
http://infohost.nmt.edu/~holstien/g4info.html


PS: I'd like to add an info I got from Sonnet regarding the fans they used with their Encore/ST CPU-Upgrades.
"Has a rating of 13.3 CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute) [that is 22,6qm/h]. It is a 12V fan, 5500 RPM. The same fan is used on the Duet."

Just added that info.
Hope to add a couple things later.

Cox Orange
Feb 24, 2012, 07:50 AM
I have more precise infos on the Sonnet Fans.

"> The fan we used was a Sunon KDE1205PFB1
>
> Here are the specs:
> +12V
> 0.11 Amps DC current
> 1.3 Watts power consumption
> 5500 RPM
> 13.3 CFM (cubic feet per minute)
> 0.15 static pressure (inches of H20) - that is, inches of water
> 31.0 dba noise
>
> I wouldn't recommend going to lower CFM fans, as we used the quietest one we could, and a lower CFM fan will probably not cool the unit well enough."

ghett0tech
Feb 25, 2012, 05:04 PM
ah, thanks to this thread my MDD g4 is running so smooth on leopard. granted i only use it for my media server its still enjoyable to have a PowerPc still in the mix.

skinniezinho
Mar 3, 2012, 05:15 PM
ah, thanks to this thread my MDD g4 is running so smooth on leopard. granted i only use it for my media server its still enjoyable to have a PowerPc still in the mix.

Glad to hear that =)
I added some info on games for powerpc =)

skinniezinho
Mar 25, 2012, 06:06 AM
xmbc added to the players list.

skinniezinho
Apr 5, 2012, 10:33 AM
added discount code for coreplayer.

mabaker
Apr 11, 2012, 07:36 AM
Great job.

skinniezinho
Apr 25, 2012, 04:29 PM
added some cloud services that have clients for powerpcs =)

Cox Orange
May 7, 2012, 04:56 PM
found a site which cites some useful links for converting an iMac G3 DV (slot loader) with ATX Power supplies (ans other mods such as soldering a VGA cable to the internal CRT-connections for the 350MHz model that misses the external VGA-port).

http://www.applefritter.com/node/9274

skinniezinho
May 13, 2012, 05:27 AM
found a site which cites some useful links for converting an iMac G3 DV (slot loader) with ATX Power supplies (ans other mods such as soldering a VGA cable to the internal CRT-connections for the 350MHz model that misses the external VGA-port).

http://www.applefritter.com/node/9274

Thanks.
Just added your link and some music services for powerpc =)

justperry
May 29, 2012, 06:34 AM
Edit : Be extremely careful with some of the things below, best way is to have a backup.


I've been using PPC for about 12 years now, first a Pismo G3 and now a PB 1.67 Ghz.
It's fairly rare that I look into the PPC sections, only on slow news days but maybe I can add a few things.


Are there any software tweaks that I can make to make my experience better?

There are many more things you can do to make your mac faster and cleaner.

You say Trimthefat is a program to remove Intel Architecture, this is true but it only does so on Applications.
There is a way to remove Intel Architecture from your WHOLE system, although you need some skils and if you mess up your system might not boot.

I did it this way :
Make all files visible, Show & Hide App is the easiest way.

Use this command to get rid of non PPC architecture :
ditto --rsrc --arch ppc <input folder> <output folder>...

Example 1 : ditto --rsrc --arch ppc /Applications /Applications111
Example 2 : ditto --rsrc --arch ppc /usr /usr111

Note the 111 on the end, I add this so it won't overwrite the existing folder since if the files are in use inside it won't work, also you can use anything -222-qwe- or whatever as long as it is different.
After it is finished you then move the original to the trash, rename the other one back to original (example Applications111 to Applications) and then restart.
The best way is to do one folder at a time and delete the trash only after restart or better when you have plenty of space leave it until you're sure everything is ok.
Do it on all these folders.

/Applications
/bin
/Developer (only if it's there)
/Library
/private
/sbin
/System
/Users
/usr

And on the next two Kernel files, yes even your kernel can be skimmed.

/mach_kernel.ctfsys
/mach_kernel

The only problem is that you have to remember to remove non PPC arch every time you install new Apps, not needed but better if you do.
There is such a clean PPC install for download on a certain site but it's against the rules to give such a link.(Mix of demon and android;) )

Note, you need to log into root to do all the above.

You can save GB by doing the above and to remove even more GB you can further delete many of the next things if not needed.

Language files.
Many use programs to delete unnesesarry language files but I do it this way.
Download Easyfind and open it, the best way is to log in as root, now search for .lproj with the following settings on the left, only folders-all words-ignore case-package contents-invisible files & folders.
Thousands will show up and now select the language files you don't need, keep en.lproj-english.lproj-englishGB.lproj-englishAu.lproj.
The easiest way is to select the first one if it's not an english file and scroll to the last one before the english.lproj and hold the shift key and click that one, you selected a bunch now and click delete, takes a bit of time to move them to the trash.
You can do the same after the english.lproj files.

Beware If you search in all of your disk you remove all non english files, some programs might not work, adobe for instance, oh and of course if you're non english you should not delete your own language files.

You can do the same for help folders but only do so if you know what to delete, help folders inside your Applications and Applications/Utlities folders are overall safe to delete.


Next Documentation and dictionaries, if you are fine without them it's safe to delete them,they are in :

/Library/Dictionaries
/Library/Documentation

Then if you don't need voices you can safely delete most of them, I left only the Vicki.SpeechVoice, they are in :

/System/Library/Speech/Voices

Note You need root access or sudo rm command.

Next Modem scripts, you can safely delete the scripts if you never need a modem, they are in :

/Library/Modem Scripts
/System/Library/Modem Scripts

Lastly, this is a very difficult one and completely depends on which hardware you have, the Extensions folder.
There are quite some extensions which under normal circumstances can be deleted but again it depends on what hardware you have.
I have a powerbook G4 1.67 Ghz and in it is an ATI Graphic card so I can delete all Geforce .kext files and Intel Graphic .kext files.
Actually I didn't delete them, I made a new folder in /System and called it Disabled Extensions.
All of the next ones I moved to that folder :

Powerbook G4 1.67 Ghz Leopard 10.5.8

/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard62xxM.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard68xxM.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard671xSCSI.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard6280ATA.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard6885M.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard67162.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/Apple_iSight.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/Apple16X50Serial.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleACPIPlatform.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleADBMouse.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleAPIC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleBlower.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleBMC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleEFIRuntime.kext (Intel Only?)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleGraphicsControl.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleGraphicsPowerManagement.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleHDA.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleHPET.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleI2SModemFamily.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMA950.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMA950GA.plugin (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMA950GLDriver.bundle (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMA950VADriver.bundle (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100FB.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100GA.plugin (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100GLDriver.bundle (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100VADriver.bundle (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleLM7x.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleLM8x.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleLM87.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleMaxim1989.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleMaxim6690.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleMCEDriver.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleMobileDevice.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ApplePCCard16ATA.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ApplePCCardATA.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ApplePlatformEnabler.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleRAID.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleRAIDCard.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSMBIOS.kext (Intel Only?)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSMBusController.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSMC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSMCLMU.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSPU.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSym8xx.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleTyMCEDriver.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleUSBAudio.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleUSBDisplays.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleVSP.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleXsanFilter.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATINDRV.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500DVDDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500GA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500GLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500VADriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonDVDDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonGA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX1000.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX1000GA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX1000GLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX1000VADriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX2000.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX2000GA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX2000GLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX2000VADriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/CHUDKernLib.kext@@@@ (Comes with Developer Tools)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/CHUDProf.kext@@@@ (Comes with Developer Tools)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/CHUDUtils.kext@@@@ (Comes with Developer Tools)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce3GLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce7xxxGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce7xxxGLDriverPPC.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce8xxxGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceFXGLDriverPPC.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceGA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceGAPPC.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForcePPC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceVADriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceVADriverPPC.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOACPIFamily.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOBluetoothHIDDriver.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOFireWireAVC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CControllerPMU.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CControllerSMU.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CCPUVoltage.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CMaxim1631.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CMaxim1989.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CMaxim6690.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOSMBusFamily.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/iPodDriver.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/iTunesPhoneDriver.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/LSIUltra320.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/MegaRAID.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/SCR24X_Apple_Driver.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/SM56KUSBAudioFamily.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/SMCMotionSensor.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/SoftRAID.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/zfs.readonly.kext****

**** If you have any of these or need them don't move/delete.
Note You need root access.
Through trail and error I also found out that not all ATI kexts were needed, the ones in bold are I think safe to move on all systems.
Edit : It took Me very long to figure out which to move and which to keep, some kexts depend on others and I always started up in verbose so I could see if some extensions lacked dependencies on other kexts, or I read the system log.


I also deleted Java since I don't need it but that's really hard to do so I won't start on that one, I only used 2 Java Apps before, Cyberduck which there are other Apps for and Mobile Partner for Huawei USB 3G stick but only needed the kernel extensions and use Menu Extra and Network Pref. to connect, it's an awful program so I deleted it, use SurplusMeter for data usage now, much better.
(Java is Slooooowwwww on PPC)

vohdoun
Jun 3, 2012, 10:50 PM
Anyone use this for Mail? http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/21899/letterbox

Smoothwheel for TenFourFox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/smoothwheel/

For Safari 5.
Lion Keyboard Smooth scrolling. http://canisbos.com/natkeyscroll

Magic Scroll. http://www.slicefactory.com/browser-extensions/magic-scroll-safari/274

justperry
Jun 4, 2012, 05:13 AM
Anyone use this for Mail? http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/21899/letterbox

Smoothwheel for TenFourFox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/smoothwheel/

For Safari 5.
Lion Keyboard Smooth scrolling. http://canisbos.com/natkeyscroll

Magic Scroll. http://www.slicefactory.com/browser-extensions/magic-scroll-safari/274

Excuse Me:confused:

I clicked on several links, all of them NON PPC

This is a PPC thread.

vohdoun
Jun 4, 2012, 08:55 AM
Then why is it I have them installed on my G5. There's a difference between browser extension and Intel only app.

stroked
Jun 4, 2012, 09:16 AM
Excuse Me:confused:

I clicked on several links, all of them NON PPC

This is a PPC thread.

I just installed Smoothwheel, and it works great on my iBook, with TFF and 10.5. It scrolls better now than it did with 10.4

eyoungren
Jun 4, 2012, 09:23 AM
Excuse Me:confused:

I clicked on several links, all of them NON PPC

This is a PPC thread.
The Letterbox app for mail referred to in the first link has a PowerPC version. Scroll down on Macupdate and you'll see them on the bottom left.

The rest is as just mentioned, for browsers.

Nameci
Jun 4, 2012, 10:04 PM
Edit : Be extremely careful with some of the things below, best way is to have a backup.


I've been using PPC for about 12 years now, first a Pismo G3 and now a PB 1.67 Ghz.
It's fairly rare that I look into the PPC sections, only on slow news days but maybe I can add a few things.



There are many more things you can do to make your mac faster and cleaner.

You say Trimthefat is a program to remove Intel Architecture, this is true but it only does so on Applications.
There is a way to remove Intel Architecture from your WHOLE system, although you need some skils and if you mess up your system might not boot.

I did it this way :
Make all files visible, Show & Hide App is the easiest way.

Use this command to get rid of non PPC architecture :
ditto --rsrc --arch ppc <input folder> <output folder>...

Example 1 : ditto --rsrc --arch ppc /Applications /Applications111
Example 2 : ditto --rsrc --arch ppc /usr /usr111

Note the 111 on the end, I add this so it won't overwrite the existing folder since if the files are in use inside it won't work, also you can use anything -222-qwe- or whatever as long as it is different.
After it is finished you then move the original to the trash, rename the other one back to original (example Applications111 to Applications) and then restart.
The best way is to do one folder at a time and delete the trash only after restart or better when you have plenty of space leave it until you're sure everything is ok.
Do it on all these folders.

/Applications
/bin
/Developer (only if it's there)
/Library
/private
/sbin
/System
/Users
/usr

And on the next two Kernel files, yes even your kernel can be skimmed.

/mach_kernel.ctfsys
/mach_kernel

The only problem is that you have to remember to remove non PPC arch every time you install new Apps, not needed but better if you do.
There is such a clean PPC install for download on a certain site but it's against the rules to give such a link.(Mix of demon and android;) )

Note, you need to log into root to do all the above.

You can save GB by doing the above and to remove even more GB you can further delete many of the next things if not needed.

Language files.
Many use programs to delete unnesesarry language files but I do it this way.
Download Easyfind and open it, the best way is to log in as root, now search for .lproj with the following settings on the left, only folders-all words-ignore case-package contents-invisible files & folders.
Thousands will show up and now select the language files you don't need, keep en.lproj-english.lproj-englishGB.lproj-englishAu.lproj.
The easiest way is to select the first one if it's not an english file and scroll to the last one before the english.lproj and hold the shift key and click that one, you selected a bunch now and click delete, takes a bit of time to move them to the trash.
You can do the same after the english.lproj files.

Beware If you search in all of your disk you remove all non english files, some programs might not work, adobe for instance, oh and of course if you're non english you should not delete your own language files.

You can do the same for help folders but only do so if you know what to delete, help folders inside your Applications and Applications/Utlities folders are overall safe to delete.


Next Documentation and dictionaries, if you are fine without them it's safe to delete them,they are in :

/Library/Dictionaries
/Library/Documentation

Then if you don't need voices you can safely delete most of them, I left only the Vicki.SpeechVoice, they are in :

/System/Library/Speech/Voices

Note You need root access or sudo rm command.

Next Modem scripts, you can safely delete the scripts if you never need a modem, they are in :

/Library/Modem Scripts
/System/Library/Modem Scripts

Lastly, this is a very difficult one and completely depends on which hardware you have, the Extensions folder.
There are quite some extensions which under normal circumstances can be deleted but again it depends on what hardware you have.
I have a powerbook G4 1.67 Ghz and in it is an ATI Graphic card so I can delete all Geforce .kext files and Intel Graphic .kext files.
Actually I didn't delete them, I made a new folder in /System and called it Disabled Extensions.
All of the next ones I moved to that folder :

Powerbook G4 1.67 Ghz Leopard 10.5.8

/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard62xxM.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard68xxM.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard671xSCSI.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard6280ATA.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard6885M.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ACard67162.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/Apple_iSight.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/Apple16X50Serial.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleACPIPlatform.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleADBMouse.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleAPIC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleBlower.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleBMC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleEFIRuntime.kext (Intel Only?)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleGraphicsControl.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleGraphicsPowerManagement.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleHDA.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleHPET.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleI2SModemFamily.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMA950.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMA950GA.plugin (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMA950GLDriver.bundle (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMA950VADriver.bundle (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100FB.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100GA.plugin (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100GLDriver.bundle (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelGMAX3100VADriver.bundle (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext (Intel Macs only)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleLM7x.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleLM8x.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleLM87.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleMaxim1989.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleMaxim6690.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleMCEDriver.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleMobileDevice.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ApplePCCard16ATA.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ApplePCCardATA.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ApplePlatformEnabler.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleRAID.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleRAIDCard.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSMBIOS.kext (Intel Only?)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSMBusController.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSMC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSMCLMU.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSPU.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleSym8xx.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleTyMCEDriver.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleUSBAudio.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleUSBDisplays.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleVSP.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/AppleXsanFilter.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATINDRV.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500DVDDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500GA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500GLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeon8500VADriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonDVDDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonGA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX1000.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX1000GA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX1000GLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX1000VADriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX2000.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX2000GA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX2000GLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/ATIRadeonX2000VADriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/CHUDKernLib.kext@@@@ (Comes with Developer Tools)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/CHUDProf.kext@@@@ (Comes with Developer Tools)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/CHUDUtils.kext@@@@ (Comes with Developer Tools)
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce3GLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce7xxxGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce7xxxGLDriverPPC.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForce8xxxGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceFXGLDriverPPC.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceGA.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceGAPPC.plugin
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForcePPC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceVADriver.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/GeForceVADriverPPC.bundle
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOACPIFamily.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOBluetoothHIDDriver.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOFireWireAVC.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CControllerPMU.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CControllerSMU.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CCPUVoltage.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CMaxim1631.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CMaxim1989.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOI2CMaxim6690.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/IOSMBusFamily.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/iPodDriver.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/iTunesPhoneDriver.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/LSIUltra320.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/MegaRAID.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/SCR24X_Apple_Driver.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/SM56KUSBAudioFamily.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/SMCMotionSensor.kext
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/SoftRAID.kext****
/System/Disabled Extensions 28-04-12/zfs.readonly.kext****

**** If you have any of these or need them don't move/delete.
Note You need root access.
Through trail and error I also found out that not all ATI kexts were needed, the ones in bold are I think safe to move on all systems.
Edit : It took Me very long to figure out which to move and which to keep, some kexts depend on others and I always started up in verbose so I could see if some extensions lacked dependencies on other kexts, or I read the system log.


I also deleted Java since I don't need it but that's really hard to do so I won't start on that one, I only used 2 Java Apps before, Cyberduck which there are other Apps for and Mobile Partner for Huawei USB 3G stick but only needed the kernel extensions and use Menu Extra and Network Pref. to connect, it's an awful program so I deleted it, use SurplusMeter for data usage now, much better.
(Java is Slooooowwwww on PPC)

Will deleting those kexts speed up the boot process?

justperry
Jun 7, 2012, 11:49 AM
Will deleting those kexts speed up the boot process?

Bit late response, didn't check for a few days.
Yes it does, when you remove/delete kexts from the extension folder the Extensions.mkext gets updated and it will speed up your boot time.

It took me a long time to figure out which ones to keep and which ones are needed, if I moved a wrong one it would not boot up, start up in verbose and it hangs, but I do have a second clean partition and then just logged in as root and moved it back.
So, if you do that you need a second disk to boot from in the case it won't boot.
Boot time went down substantially.

jtkc
Jun 17, 2012, 11:37 AM
ok we all know that you cannot install an intel processor on a ppc board. lol.

here is my question. Can you take intel based internals and swap them into a ppc case?

also, if my ppc is or was a 1.8ghz 20 inch.
Wanting to know if i found 2.0ghz ppc internals, would i be able to just swap out the 1.8 logic board and processor for the 2.0, or would it be a complete gut and total re-install of all internals?

im relatively new to the forum, but not to forums, i most always try to find and read the stickies and FAQS before posting, i hope i didnt miss this topic, if its already been addressed

Cox Orange
Jun 18, 2012, 05:36 AM
ok we all know that you cannot install an intel processor on a ppc board. lol.

1) here is my question. Can you take intel based internals and swap them into a ppc case?

2) also, if my ppc is or was a 1.8ghz 20 inch.
Wanting to know if i found 2.0ghz ppc internals, would i be able to just swap out the 1.8 logic board and processor for the 2.0, or would it be a complete gut and total re-install of all internals?

im relatively new to the forum, but not to forums, i most always try to find and read the stickies and FAQS before posting, i hope i didnt miss this topic, if its already been addressed
Allthough I think we should keep these kind of post out of the sticky, which should more be a collection of information, I will answer you.

1. - why shouldn't one use a different case? As long as you take all Intel components (or PC components) it will work with some tinkering (may include cutting new holes for ports etc.).
2. - some G4 PSUs are not compatible with other PowerMac G4 model's mainboards. PowerMac G5s are even more trouble some, because you hardly find PSU line-outs on the net. The number of incompatible parts (PSU, Mainboard, CPU, liquid cooling vs fans,...) is higher. If you do not have an "Apple diagnostics CD" (Apple techs have them only), you will not be able to calibrate a swapped G5 CPU even, if the models are the same and only differ in CPU speed.

wlo
Oct 18, 2012, 11:54 PM
Hello everyone,
I using Mac OS X 10.4 of rackmac3.1 with powerG5, CPU x2, Cpu speed2.3 GHz, L2cache 512KB Memory 4GB. It is as a file server for 20 mac client. Users always complain about slow performace in accessing file which are using in Photoshop. I check using the activity monitor and does not find any problem. Could you have any suggestions that might check this issue?
Best regards,

Cox Orange
Oct 20, 2012, 04:17 PM
this is a FAQ, it is meant to collect information, not for asking questions.
May I be so polite to ask you to open a separate thread for your specific problem? You can ask the moderators to move your post.

Ariii
Oct 31, 2012, 08:08 PM
I just wanted to add that the palmrest for the TiBook pops off very easily... I just found this out a couple hours after owning one :(.

skinniezinho
Jul 7, 2013, 09:49 AM
Linux section added, some more usefull topics added too

ihuman:D
Jul 7, 2013, 10:11 AM
You shouldn't recommend to use Ubuntu on a low-specced Mac, it would run slow as hell. A better choice would be Debian 7 with LXDE or Lubuntu 12.04 or 13.04.
I'd stay away from any Ubuntu distro except for Lubuntu and I'd only run the LXDE and Openbox GUIs/window managers on Debian. :)

skinniezinho
Jul 7, 2013, 10:13 AM
You shouldn't recommend to use Ubuntu on a low-specced Mac, it would run slow as hell. A better choice would be Debian 7 or Lubuntu 12.04 or 13.04. :)

I didn't =)
I told about running ubuntu but didn't stated on what mac, guess people should do their homework, but sooner I try to update using some numbers too =)

ihuman:D
Jul 7, 2013, 10:16 AM
I didn't =)
I told about running ubuntu but didn't stated on what mac, guess people should do their homework, but sooner I try to update using some numbers too =)

I must have mis-interpreted this then: but the most user friendly is for sure ubuntu.

skinniezinho
Jul 7, 2013, 10:18 AM
I must have mis-interpreted this then:

not mis-interpreted, it's kind language barrier, what I mean is that ubuntu based distros are most user friendly.
I will try to modify it =) thanks for the suggestions!

ihuman:D
Jul 7, 2013, 10:23 AM
Your welcome!

Cox Orange
Nov 24, 2013, 03:53 PM
I wanted to share this link:

- it has infos about Mac OS 9 and about hardware restrictions
- Quicksilver and 128GB limit (some of you might know, that some Quicksilver Models with the same CPU speed and production year can see drives over 128GB and some not. Here they say for what number on the logicboard you have to look, in order to know, which one is what.)

http://macos9lives.com/mac%20os%209%20lives_003.htm

They also have a forum.

ouimetnick
Nov 25, 2013, 10:01 AM
Very nice thread, and lots of useful and plain good to know information here. :)

arnofwtx
Dec 10, 2013, 08:54 AM
You have saved me a lot of search and "sounding and like an idiot" time.

xtempo
Jan 5, 2014, 07:19 PM
Does anyone know how to recognize a 750GB HD in leopard on G5?
I mean all 750 GB of it so far when I format it shows 633 and i lose about a 100GB it seems.

jrsx
Jan 5, 2014, 10:30 PM
Does anyone know how to recognize a 750GB HD in leopard on G5?
I mean all 750 GB of it so far when I format it shows 633 and i lose about a 100GB it seems.

You must have the correct drivers. Your mac cannot 'see' all the HD unless you 'tell' the mac that it's there.

You shouldn't recommend to use Ubuntu on a low-specced Mac, it would run slow as hell. A better choice would be Debian 7 with LXDE or Lubuntu 12.04 or 13.04.
I'd stay away from any Ubuntu distro except for Lubuntu and I'd only run the LXDE and Openbox GUIs/window managers on Debian. :)

Not all true. Lubuntu is the best alternative for PPC Mac, but Ubuntu 10.04 can be very fast on even low spec iBooks. Ubuntu 13.10 isn't often good for PPC, as all necessary drivers aren't there for a lot of PPC machines. Go with 12.04, I would say.

xtempo
Jan 6, 2014, 07:55 PM
You must have the correct drivers. Your mac cannot 'see' all the HD unless you 'tell' the mac that it's there.

I should have know this since I bought it new from MicroCenter.

how does updating the driver work? I know how to do the stuff in windows but I've never done anything about drivers on the mac.

thanks for the help.:)

Intell
Jan 6, 2014, 09:58 PM
There's no need to additional drivers when using Mac OS X. How is the drive connected to the machine?

jrsx
Jan 6, 2014, 10:24 PM
There's no need to additional drivers when using Mac OS X. How is the drive connected to the machine?

Several people have stated that some PPC machines can only use some of the drive because the machine only supports as much as it 'sees'. It can only use as much as it sees, so they found additional drivers helpful.

Intell
Jan 6, 2014, 10:26 PM
Several people have stated that some PPC machines can only use some of the drive because the machine only supports as much as it 'sees'. It can only use as much as it sees, so they found additional drivers helpful.

That's only for G3's and early G4's. No G5 has that problem. Even then, the drive would should up as about 120GB in a G3/early G4 not as 633GB.

jrsx
Jan 6, 2014, 10:29 PM
That's only for G3's and early G4's. No G5 has that problem. Even then, the drive would should up as about 120GB in a G3/early G4 not as 633GB.

Aha! That's useful to know.....:eek:
Thanks for clearing that up, I would have never known.

ifrit05
Jan 7, 2014, 03:24 AM
Some OS's set aside a percentage of space for background use, like virtual memory, data redundancy, etc. Not really sure if HFS+ Journaled/OS X is the same.

But then again I never really encountered this problem (at most the OS set aside ~.5% of any of my drives).

xtempo
Jan 7, 2014, 08:50 AM
the drive is internal.

Seagate ST3750640NS 750GB. I have not found any drivers so I might have to stick with what it sees. Luckily I have a USB drive I'm using as a backup.

Might have to get another USB if I need more space.

Anonymous Freak
Jan 8, 2014, 02:49 AM
Two reasons:

1. The "advertised capacity" of a drive is measured in base-10. So 750 GB means: 750,000,000,000 bytes. (Give or take, even then they round.)

OS X measures in base-2. So "750 GB" to OS X is 750 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024 = 805,306,368,000 bytes. A large spread.

Which also means that what a hard drive manufacturer calls "750 GB", OS X calls 698.49 GB.

You're still a little shy of that, though, so...

2. The drive could be partitioned, or have bad sectors, or some other reason it doesn't show a full "698.49 GB". Your best bet if it has data on it is to make a backup, and boot to an OS X Install CD. Run Disk Utility, do a complete re-partition of it and disk check, then restore your backup.

Note that while some systems do reserve part of a hard drive for specific purposes (OS X Intel systems reserve a very small partition for the EFI boot loader, and Lion and newer create a "recovery partition" of a couple GB,) OS X doesn't do it for more than a few GB.

Cox Orange
Jan 8, 2014, 04:21 PM
@xtempo:

download SMART Utility by Volitan Software. It will show you if it has bad sectors or reallocated bad sectors or if the so called reserve sectors are already all used.
Also recent (at least last years) Seagate drives are known for having problems with their firmware. It is so much of a problem that Seagate has even turned it into an advantage, which they advertise "now you can even flash the newest firmware yourself", because they put them on the market and have not completely worked out the Firmware. Users become beta testers.

xtempo
Jan 9, 2014, 03:38 PM
I have used the demo for Smart Utility and it showed it was failing. What do I do now? Can I do anything without buying the program?

Also I don't have the install discs which I hope to get sometime.

jrsx
Jan 9, 2014, 04:43 PM
I have used the demo for Smart Utility and it showed it was failing. What do I do now? Can I do anything without buying the program?

Also I don't have the install discs which I hope to get sometime.

You should post a thread - this section is more for information, not questions. :D

xtempo
Jan 9, 2014, 05:43 PM
ok

skinniezinho
Jan 11, 2014, 04:35 AM
Thanks for the users who sent me pm with suggestions for updating this F.A.Q.
ALthough I don't have any macs now I will continue to post updates as people tell me.

Cox Orange
Jan 13, 2014, 01:18 PM
Update concerning my post about the Mac OS 9 lives Forum.

They now focus on:

1) Installing, Maintaining, and Extending the functionality of Mac OS 9

2) Installing Digital Audio Software & Music/MIDI Hardware interfaces under Mac OS 9 for Veteran & Beginner Musicians, Producers, and Artists.

3) General questions for Mac OS 9 enthusiasts.

MacDude21
Mar 1, 2014, 11:20 PM
Wow... With all this stuff for PowerPC, I REALLY wish I still had my good ol' iMac G3. Unfortainitly, my Dad RECYCLED it!!! Gah. Even to this day I still can't believe he did that. That thing was a good computer, and ran outstanding considering its specs.

MysticCow
Mar 30, 2014, 05:30 PM
Thanks for the users who sent me pm with suggestions for updating this F.A.Q.
ALthough I don't have any macs now I will continue to post updates as people tell me.

Thanks for continuing to support us! For iBook G3's with the 750FX processor, you can overclock it through software using iCooked. http://www.alxsoft.com/files/icooked1211.zip

And I really need to go visit the Mac OS 9 Lives forums.